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B.D.S.M. as "sorry for the update" gives 150 kobany, 1 EPx1 orb and 50 energy (iirc) Hentai Heroes auf Twitter: "❤️ Heroes, we're trying so hard to please you! 💋 As a “thank you for your patience” after the long and hard update we are giving you a #special #redeem #code 👉 B.D.S.M. For more info on the new #battle system, check out this blog post: https://t.co/kTbGepxy7i https://t.co/TAFZybEYRb" / Twitter MOD EDIT: Works in both HH and CxH - FinderKeeper Player Edit: Works on nutaku as well Player Edit2: works also in GH (thx @gh0st1975)

So let's give a quick summation of the impacts that are clearly evident here: i) They rolled this update out right at the end of the LC/Daily Contests, it was buggy and it ended up where no-one could play the end of the contests. For many - including myself - that meant that the contests were a bust when they should have placed well. ii) They've rolled out this feature right at the end of the ToF. Consequences are that the most important 24h of the tournament people are playing with a system that they have no clue about. Tbh, having seen the system I suspect that it had detrimentally impacted me enough that I may struggle to compete in the league I'm in from this point on. A shame then that I'm positioned to finish top 4 and move up a league this week. It may not turn out that way, but if it does I'm sure others will be similarly effected. iii) The battle stats have lowered dramatically, meaning that both Champions Performances and Club Champion are now far harder to pass through. iv) The blessings are still buggy - as noted either above or in another thread, I've got 'Eye colour Bald' as a blessing. v) They've made their battle system vastly more complicated, based on character attributes that were irrelevant previously. There is no easily sortable database of these attributes and they've provided no new feature. So the new battle system becomes next to impossible to use efficiently, even for those with the time/inclination to sort through it. It seems to me that all of this could likely have been avoided via better planning and perhaps having someone on staff actually play the game with any regularity. Like the obvious mis-alignment of pricing of the Mythic Exp/Aff, most of these issues would be readily apparant to anyone playing the game regularly.

Can you finally lunch the game? You cannot do mantainance right before reset! I cannot participate in any competions to change my position. Thats really annoying, really... then everyone has to get the first price reward.

Code "B.D.S.M." pour 1 EPx1 orb, 150 kobans et 50 energy fonctionner HH _et_ CxH _et_ nutaku Hentai Heroes auf Twitter: "❤️ Heroes, we're trying so hard to please you! 💋 As a “thank you for your patience” after the long and hard update we are giving you a #special #redeem #code 👉 B.D.S.M. For more info on the new #battle system, check out this blog post: https://t.co/kTbGepxy7i https://t.co/TAFZybEYRb" / Twitter

By now most people will have noticed that Champion battles are way more difficult as the stats (Impact/attack power) of most girls have dropped significantly. The stat drops seem to differ from girl to girl. Most of the legendary girls in my team had around 15-25k Attack Power. This has now dropped significantly for each girl. Some girls have lost over half of their attack power and some have only lost around 20-30%. Why has this happened after the update? This was not mentioned anywhere in the patch notes.

Also just putting it out there, if they are going to add bonuses for things like eye/hair color, etc. they really should make it an option to sort through your harem by those types of options. It would literally take me ages to search 300+ girls for specific eye colors, its not like its totally obvious from their small profile photos

That's... so absurd. I feel insulted by that statement. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/automation Since it seems they don't know what that word means.

Here's the problem with not releasing it all at once. You see all the confusion and anger now. This is for part 1. Guess what's going to happen when the next part is released? Crap storm part 2! Another thing I or two I hate about this are 1. I can't see my league ranking without finding myself in the list where before it was right above the number of fights I have. This is really annoying when you're when you are trying to stay in a certain range and you have to check after every fight. 2. When trying to find a girl in my unsortable list of 500+, the stats pop up covers most of the list, so even if I know who I'm looking for, she's even harder to find.

I don't think I want to 😀

We are hearing a lot of negatives (of which I share some of the views) , but to add a positive, it makes fighting Pandora Witch (level 839) for MILF Estelle a lot easier.

The game is now online, AFTER the competition is finished and reset. I finish 11th, only a few points missing for a top 10, so i gain 25 legendary fragments, and not 50, or more, like i would normally, since i invest lots of orbs yesterday, and i was planning to stay in the top 10, maybe in the top 4, before the end. All my investment in orbs (hundreds of epics, mythics, and super) to be in the top 10, or top 4, was for nothing, because this maintenance. A maintenance not announce in game, and surely not on the forum either. A maintenance they decide to do...and the last 4 hours of a legendary competition. Angry about this....

It's nice to see that the battle system has gotten a revamp, but there are some really annoyances with setting up teams. It would be helpfull to have some ways to order and filter the girl selection list. And it would also be nice if there was some way to click on a girl in the team setup page and go directly to her in the shop to level or add affection. Similar to how this is possible while setting up teams for a champion. Another thing is that while scrolling thru the girls, the tooltip is blocking basicly the entire list. Edit/Update, the HH++ script now adds filters. Makes life a lot easier. Thanks to the folk(s) behind it!

Encore merci pour l'incompétence de l'équipe d'Hentai heroes qui programment des mises à jour lors des évènements. Cette fois ci ça a été le pompon : une matinée entiere sans pouvoir jouer du coup je n'ai pas pu assurer ma place.

Quote from the internet today: "Lying by omission, otherwise known as exclusionary detailing, is lying by either omitting certain facts or by failing to correct a misconception. For example: Kinkoid Patch notes." In KKs continued mission to shaft their playerbase as hard as they can, today's effort combined: Delays in the update, causing people not to finish their plans for the legendary contest; Another new feature pushed through, incomplete, buggy and underdocumented; Ignoring remaining issues caused by a previous "update"; Another undocumented nerf. Given the "scene" of this game, I'm sure there are some players who enjoy KK's effort to shaft them as hard as they can. Unfortunately, I'm not one of those people. As to the nerf in "attack" or impression value, I have the impression my mythicals have not been affected, or very little, while my common girls are affected hardest. Can anyone confirm or deny that?

As long is there is an in-game timer/countdown to maintenance, I don't really care when they do it. But with no in-game countdown or at least a half-day warning prior, I do hope they are prepared to compensate the investment. I know that I've invested several hundred pachinko orbs in preparation for the current event standings. I'm certainly not the only one. Expecting a player to keep tabs on update schedules through Discord or even their own forums is very bad form during a cash-heavy events.

1 year and 4 months later... As a reply to my comment: here Today, I finally reached that goal and got every girl shown in the harem page! That's 812 girls 🤭

Just going to say one thing. @Tom208 we love you

What makes you think you've got girls that the others do not? I'm not sure what makes you think your girls will topple everyone else's? Yes, the potential is there to actually have some luck and overcome stronger players... but taking it for granted? Not really, no. Also, for a 5 year game that is actually paid by (some) players, it's pretty bad to be presented with inadequate, "buggy" versions of something that they've had lots of time to work on, IMO. It's all good, just expressing other views, I guess 👍

At first glance, it seems the new "stuff" is not only way inneficiently implemented but it's also very incomplete (to what is/was announced). There's a lot of improvements needed to even have "regular" gameplay - Need a battleteam selection screen (yes, one easier to access); - Would love to have more detailed info both from the girls, bonuses and effect on the overall values; - Champions was made even harsher and something I will not play until it's remade (it's just a waste of tickets, comparatively and just annoying since it's hitting a wall anyway); - The "flow" of the battles could also improve, IMO; - League scoring is weird, that I can tell, no info on that (that I saw, might've missed it), so not much to say either since I have no idea on how it works now (getting only 15 and/or 25?); - Needing filters on harem to search the "blessed" girls; - Needing some sort of filter on battle selection too... I mean, searching a girl through hundreds of them is AMAZINGLY frustrating (and the devs did mention something about avoiding that on the Q&A, IIRC); - It's pretty confusing all around, only the actual changes (not the parts that aren't working) should have been on the patch notes with more detail, again IMO (the upcoming features could have been mentioned separately). I'm sure there's other stuff that I haven't mentioned but... I think the "system" (the final/full version) might have had some potential (the previous system was broken and this one MIGHT've created more chances/challenges, depending on RNG and all that) but the way it was implemented... ouch, ouch, ouch... It's very annoying wasting time to just trying to find ONE girl among hundreds, seriously.. you can do better! (or I hope!)

Thinking? 😬

awesome to implement a feature with blessings without being able to sort by blessings when choosing your battle team or any sorting at all for that matter congrats kinkoid if i sometime thought you had a IQ point above 80 i dont now at least congrats to being one of the most sloppy gaming developers ever

change battle system? it's ok JUST GIMME THE FUCKING SORT WHERE I CHANGE MY TEAM

is it their goal to make Club Champions an even worse experience every patch, if so they are succeeding.

ils n'en ont rien à foutre de leurs joueurs que tu payes ou pas. Coller une mise à jour qui baise toute la compétition c'est quoi le but ? Quel amateurisme

Fuck these updates, since they break the normal game!

Since it was known this is a major update and would take longer than usual, it probably would have been a good idea not to do it during an event like Legendary Contest.

You guessed it. Currently in discord you can use !hh-girls command to get this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kVZxcZZMa82lS4k-IpxTTTELAeaipjR_v1twlqW5vbI/edit#gid=505705965

Then wait for it to be available. Meanwhile, this script gives a feature that the game should have had years ago.

i will just remain a mindless drone then since only biased oppinions are allowed Kinkoid should just remove the entire feedback thread because they clearly dont care

Dear players, The release of the new improved battle system B.D.S.M. today took longer than we expected and it broke a few things so we had to put all games back to maintenance mode. This has been one of the most challenging releases for us but we are going to use it as a lesson and improve our processes. We are giving you a special redeem code as a “Thank you for your patience”! Please use the code: B.D.S.M. and show your girls a good time! For more info on the new battle system, check out this blog post: https://blog.kinkoid.com/spotlight/b-d-s-m/ Note: We will not be extending the Legendary Contests event. Thank you for your patience! The Kinkoid Team

I would also add that with this system the paid/"acient" players are way more favorite (IMO). Is hard to explain with words but i'll try to share my personal point of view : Before i had "only" to save for my Mythic girl of my class but now class are not relevant and the stats remain, this means that a mythic/legendary girls are all necessary in equal measure. So if before i had to save for one, now (to be competitive) we need all. Example: till now i'm totally skipping legendary days to save kobans but the next week there is Indian headstand so this mean that Thoru (that i had to skip) will be a must, since she is "blessed" and she has the 5.5 base stat, so a player that has all my girls plus her will win against me for sure. Also the blessing change right in the middle of the league so again you can get rekt simply by the difference of a player that can take em all and one that can't, this difference was not that big in the previous system because even i could be competitive just planning for my mythic girls. In summary: now for me (FOR ME and MY VERY FIRST IMPRESSION) feels way more pay to win than before

For the love of everything holy. Give us a way to sort our girls! I don't have the inclination to search 600 plus girls eye color.

Let's give a warm welcome to the new PvP mechanics system! 👍💪

My bad. I apologize. Sincerely.

what kind of eye colour is that? being blind? omen est nomen?

Bonjour, c'est inadmissible de faire une mise à jour dans l'heure qui précède le reset des compétitions légendaires. Je comptais participer et utiliser toutes mes orbes ce midi, mais impossible d'accéder au site. Je comptais sur cette compétition pour obtenir la légendaire. Alors maintenant comment je fais ?! Vous auriez au moins pu et DU prolonger la compétition !! J'aurais obtenue au moins 25 fragments voire je pensais pouvoir en obtenir 50% sans problème. Et je suis loin d'être la seule dans ce cas. Merci de bien vouloir proposer une solution à ce problème ou donner 50% de la fille à tout le monde. PS: j'ai à peine pu me connecter 5min pour faire quelques combats de troll vers 11h environ, puis au moment ou je voulais faire mes pachinkos hop, MAJ qui se finit à ... 13h05 ! Malgré des refresh toutes les 2 min pdt plus d'une demi-heure. Inadmissible !

I'll just state the obvious, IMO. Such an update should be made on a "event-free" day or similar, never on a LC day.

There are no days in the year and you have to do the maintenance right at the moment when the missions of an event are renewed, thank you very much(irony)

Is there even a maintenance schedule posted anywhere? This should definitely come with a warning and a countdown timer. The investment in ranking for legendary competitions is pretty heavy.

@Mario Kinkoid Je ne me faisais plus d'illusion sur la capacité à faire n'importe quoi de Kinkoïd, mais là, on décroche le pompon : - Kinkoïd lors des contacts sur Discord a lui-même admis que le harem est long à charger et totalement inutilisable car dépourvu de filtres et de possibilités de mémoriser des équipes. - Nonobstant ce constat partagé par toute la communauté, KK décide de mettre la charrue avant les boeufs en implémentant un nouveau système de combat (qui nécessite d'ajuster son équipe tous les 5 jours) sans mettre en place les outils de tri. Cette mise à jour bien entendue boguée (à peine plus d'une semaine de tests sur le serveur test) est faite en pleine compétitions légendaires et 28h avant la fin des ligues. Elle nécessite donc une seconde mise à jour qui se termine après 13h donc après le refresh et la fin de la compétition. Les ligues sont donc totalement faussées et la compétition légendaire aussi. - Maintenant, on se retrouve avec une usine à gaz impossible à utiliser pour optimiser un tant soit peu son équipe de combat. Heureusement, des développeurs (@tom208 et d'autres qui l'aident), BENEVOLES EUX, pallient aux manques flagrants de l'interface du jeu depuis plusieurs mois voire plusieurs années. Ils modifient le script autorisé de façon à filtrer les filles pour faciliter la sélection de l'équipe. Ce filtre est très basique et ne tient compte que des statistiques des filles à l'instant t et pas de ce qu'elles pourraient devenir si on les maxait en XP ou en affection. Il reste donc encore beaucoup de travail pour le joueur. Ce script est disponible pour tous les joueurs, son code source est libre et tout le monde peut vérifier qu'il ne contient rien de malveillant. Chaque joueur peut désactiver une fonction s'il ne l'apprécie pas et il ne fait rien à la place du joueur. Bien sûr, quelques grincheux œuvrent depuis quelques temps pour son interdiction de façon plus ou moins ouverte car ils croient qu'ils ont plus de difficultés à gagner les ligues à cause de ça. Ils oublient juste que tout le monde peut faire un fichier Excel pour simuler les combats contre ses adversaires et que les niveaux se resserrant avec le temps, l'ancienneté n'est plus autant un avantage prépondérant (en tout cas avant la dernière mise à jour du système de combats). Personnellement je ne peux plus jouer avec l'interface totalement non ergonomique du jeu. Surtout sur smartphone. Ce script ne fait que ce que devrait offrir l'interface du jeu. - Et voilà que je tombe sur ça : Qui aboutit à ça : https://discord.com/channels/235394770116018177/235394770116018177/867459887750185000 Attention all users of the HH++ script: Kinkoid has now officially ruled that the Market Filter and Teams Filter features of HH++ are automation, and therefore violate the Terms of Use. Continued use of HH++ version 0.29.0 and older risks your account getting banned. Pour ceux qui ne comprennent pas l'anglais, KK interdit le script HH++(OCD) de @Tom208 parce que ses filtres permettent de filtrer des filles dans le harem sur quelques critères simples dont les filles bénéficiant des "blessings" (ce que KK s'est engagé à faire je le rappelle). Je précise qu'un tableau récapitulant toutes les caractéristiques des filles est disponible sur le net. Il n'y a plus qu'à mettre en place les filtres ce qui est d'un niveau première en France (donc des gens qui ne sont même pas sensés jouer à ce jeu). Donc je crée ce message. Joignez-vous à moi pour dire tout le mal que vous pensez de cette mise à jour du système de combat sans mise à jour de l'interface et de l'interdiction du script initialement autorisé. Je ne me fais plus vraiment d'illusion sur le fait que kinkoïd ne prend que ce qui l'arrange sur le forum mais un miracle est toujours possible. A la fin de cette journée, j'ai la citation d'Audiard qui me revient sans cesse en tête : "les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait" (Les tontons flingueurs). Je me demande bien pourquoi.

Je viens de voir sur le forum Anglais que c'est très souvent que les maj sont placées lors d'un event ,hors cela nous réduit nos chances de drop ...Cela fait 1 heure que ça dure et c'est assez énervant .N'y aurait il pas moyen de les lancer hors event ?

If you have an upload side I can offer my spreadsheet. Would just try to strip off my rubbish in it. I have no dropbox or google. (and did only "important 5 stars")

I think this is the "new normal", given their silence after the issue was first reported on the test server. Which sucks, because new players are now being punished by this change, which is supposed tO mAkE tHiNgS mOrE bAlAncEd.

Un autre détail d'interface qui me dérange, en ligue on ne voit plus son classement dans le panneau de gauche. Je suis obligé de me chercher dans la liste des 100 joueurs pour voir mon classement.

Thank You Slynia, thank you for helping me adjust buddy! Hello to everyone on the forum!

I'm realizing how much I depended on HH++ script filtering 😂

You are not alone Grumolch

The update has been going on since 9:30 server time, which is over 3 hours now. It was most likely a mistake that it went live for a couple of minutes earlier. They have been saying since yesterday on the official discord server that the patch would take longer than usual since it's such a big patch compared to normal. I would agree that they could've warned about it in the in-game news tho, since not everyone is on discord.

eeeeeuh.... c'est censé concerné qui ça? ^^'

i hope maintenance is done with enough time left before todays contest is closed.