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Thanks for letting us know. That makes sense, and it could be a good sign (although it was also an inconvenience for those trying to load the game). I hope this means they got more players interested in the clicker, and that they'll give out the reward once they sort things out.

Good to know. Well, the popup did say the reward would come later, but until we either receive it or get an answer about it, and since the criteria were a bit unclear and there was a loading issue on Hentai Clicker at the time, forcing us to empty the cache and refresh the page multiple times after following the promo link... It's not easy to tell whether we're still eligible for this reward or not. The fact that the popup was removed shortly thereafter could also mean it was a mistake and this offer isn't even on the table. If they do give out rewards to Hentai Heroes players for also giving their other game a try, I hope they'll include everyone who did and not just those who hadn't bothered checking out Hentai Clicker at all until they received this popup. Especially considering HC is still in beta, and has its own sub-forum here which means a fair amount of HH players must have already given it at least a try when it came out (and some even actively help test out the game). It would be weird to miss out on a reward for actually being curious about Kinkoid's other products.

Thanks for your reply. I hadn't noticed that the message had disappeared from the News section on HH. That's weird (Edit: I'm glad I took a screenshot!). At any rate, I didn't get any reward or further prompt on HH since then. I logged out and back in on both games just in case, but it didn't prompt anything either. I hope I'm not ineligible for the reward either. As for Hentai Clicker not loading correctly due to the patch (presumably), I posted a simple (if annoying) workaround that worked for me (in the same thread as you). Basically just empty your browser's cache, download the game again by refreshing the page, rinse and repeat until it patches itself and then it should work.

I had this error twice today. The first time was a bit annoying, because to fix it I had to empty my cache and reload the page, effectively re-downloading the game multiple times, until it eventually went all the way through. The second time happened shortly after that, when the game started and quickly gave me a popup asking me to... empty my cache and reload the page (so as to get the patch/update). I found it weird, but I still did it, and from then on the game has been working correctly (with the patch applied).

Hey guys, I've had this popup today, and I've been wondering a few things about the reward on HH for trying out HC. Am I still eligible for it if I've already tried out Hentai Clicker before (which I did)? What's the reward? How and when will we get it (if we're eligible, which depends on question 1)? If anybody has any info, that would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

Oh, I didn't even consider that. Thanks for the tip! Might as well give it a try.

I see. Thank you for letting me know; I'll leave Discord alone, in this case. Well, it looks like I'll have to focus harder on finding a workaround or a compromise that works for me, then. At least, the community is still active and helpful!

Hahah. It does seem that the devs used to answer more frequently and directly (especially in the French section) until about a year ago or so. I still see mods posting here and there, and the staff makes regular posts like forum contests and announcements, but I don't see them taking part in discussions as much. Are they more active elsewhere? Maybe on Discord? I'm not a big fan of Discord, but if joining there can bring me answers, I might do it.

So you would rather have a new thread on the same topic than a bump of an old thread? The problem with that is that it scatters replies (if any) and results when someone searches for that topic. I'm genuinely asking, because I've been trying to get the devs' attention (or anyone's, for that matter) on a topic that's been brought up multiple times over the years, but never found a satisfying answer (alternative payment methods for real-money offers worth buying). So far I've posted in existing threads, but maybe I should have made my own thread instead?

Bonjour les devs ! Merci pour cet excellent jeu. Je me permets de bump ce vieux thread plutôt que d'en créer un autre (désolé d'avance si c'est mal vu ; j'hésitais entre éviter le doublon et la nécromancie). Il y en a bien d'autres qui évoquent le même sujet (et dans la partie en anglais également, où j'ai aussi posté mais hélas sans succès). Celui-ci a le mérite d'être simple et général et de déjà comporter une réponse de Kinkoid. Désolé d'insister, mais je suis vraiment embêté de ne pas pouvoir profiter de vos offres payantes faute de choix pour le moyen de paiement. Mon but n'est pas de vous harceler ou de critiquer un manquement, mais bien de trouver un moyen de payer pour vos services et mieux profiter de votre jeu ! Idéalement, j'aimerais avoir les mêmes options pour proposées pour tous les achats disponibles que pour les seules recharges de kobans, mais à défaut ou si ça pose problème à mettre en place (ce qui semble être ou au moins avoir été le cas à lire les anciennes réponses à ce sujet), j'aimerais suggérer un compromis satisfaisant. Dans tous les cas, j'apprécierais beaucoup une réponse, svp. Pour tenter clarifier et regrouper le sujet, voici les autres réponses officielles que j'ai trouvées sur d'autres topics et qui me paraissent importantes : Avant de tomber sur ces posts, je supposais qu'à partir du moment où un partenaire de paiement comme Paysafecard était déjà en place pour acheter des kobans en masse, étendre cette option aux autres offres payantes devait être relativement simple. Il semblerait qu'il y ait des complications, non pas techniques ou pratiques, mais plutôt administratives, disons. Si c'est le cas, avez-vous ou pourriez-vous envisager la mise en place d'une étape intermédiaire au sein du jeu pour contourner le souci ? On pourrait alors acheter non pas directement la carte mensuelle ou l'offre X ou Y via Paysafecard, mais acheter des crédits pour le jeu via Paysafecard, et ensuite utiliser ces crédits pour acheter ceci ou cela parmi vos offres payantes ? S'ils sont d'accord pour vendre des kobans, monnaie virtuelle en vigueur uniquement sur le jeu, ils devraient l'être aussi pour vendre des gemmes / rubis / tokens / crédits / tout autre terme similaire, qui seraient aussi une monnaie virtuelle en vigueur uniquement sur le jeu. Beaucoup de jeux à (micro-)transactions utilisent un système de ce type, et ça fonctionne plutôt bien. Je ne suggère bien entendu pas de nous permettre d'acheter la carte mensuelle ou une offre avec des kobans. Je trouve l'économie du jeu très bien fichue, et l'équilibre excellent entre les kobans qu'on peut obtenir gratuitement et ceux qu'on peut acheter en argent réel, et je ne voudrais surtout pas bouleverser ce système. Il s'agirait d'introduire une autre "monnaie virtuelle" dans le jeu, mais uniquement sous forme de palier entre les moyens de paiement disponibles et les offres payantes proposées. Voilà. Je vous remercie d'avance pour votre attention.

On the contrary! You're right that I didn't see either of your previous posts with this recap image, and it seems great! I was previously keeping a pinned tab on the wiki's champion page, and this is the same thing but more complete and easier to check at a glance. Thank you!

Hi all, I've made a search in this thread for "payment", "paysafe" and "paysafecard" but came in empty. I didn't read the 20 pages, so sorry in advance if the following has already been suggested in this thread (I know it's been mentioned in other threads, but since this is the Main Ideas thread, I feel it should go here as well). Alternative Payment Methods for ALL Purchases, please? Currently, alternative payment methods are in place (Paysafecard, phone, crypto currencies), but they're only available for direct koban purchases. Meanwhile, monthly cards, bundles, special offers and any other real-money purchase options that I could find are still restricted to credit card only. Could you please change that? The alternative payment methods are already set up, why not make them available for all real-money purchases? I would gladly have taken a few offers and almost certainly a monthly card if I could buy them with Paysafecard. I'm not interested in buying kobans in bulk for large sums of money, however, regardless of payment methods offered. This seems like a huge waste, both for the company and for many low-budget players who are effectively forced into staying strictly F2P if credit card isn't an acceptable or convenient payment method for them. Pretty please, Kinkoid, let me pay you! Thanks in advance. Long live this great game.

@MCP Thanks for the screenshot tip! I've been writing the positions down by hand on a Notepad so far, and it was stressful and unreliable. This should make it a lot easier.

Well, I just throw books, magazines, flowers and chocolate boxes at their faces, until they know better than to ask me anything. Seems to work just fine so far! 😛 Hentai Heroes: 2326804

The drop rate seemed pretty terrible for me. I fought Gruntt exclusively throughout the event (it's my current boss anyway, and I also needed to unlock his regular girls in the process, for which I'm still only halfway through). I ended up at 80 shards for Alpha&Omega after using up all my free attacks. I had 3.6k kobans saved up, so I decided to go for it, and from there, even though the drops were really bad, I still went all the way because having an incomplete girl at 93 or 98 shards would have just been a complete waste. I only just barely got the final 5 shards literally on the very last fight of my eight 20-attack refill... 1648 kobans spent for a measly 20 shards. Of course, I got a lot of in-game cash, 14 champion tickets, and plenty of shards for Gruntt's regular girls in the process, but it still doesn't feel great. Thankfully, I really like the art and theme of the character(s), because as a 3-star Charm legendary, it won't add much value to my collection (I'm Know-How and my battle team is very far from optimal). I didn't keep an exact count, but it must have been around 48x4 free attacks + the 20x8 from my refills, so... 352 fights to get the 100 shards. No extra. My biggest drops were 5 shards at a time, and I rolled 1 and 2 quite a few times. More tedious and less rewarding than I anticipated. But I take note for future events!

What I really don't get is this: There are a bunch of alternative payment methods in place (at least now and in my country), but they're only available for direct koban purchases. Meanwhile, monthly cards, and all bundles and special offers (including the Starter Offer, not shown below) are still restricted to credit card only. Why?! I would gladly have taken a few offers and almost certainly a monthly card if I could buy them with Paysafecard. I'm not interested in buying kobans in bulk for large sums of money, however, regardless of payment methods offered. This seems like a huge waste, both for the company and for many low-budget players who are effectively forced into staying strictly F2P if credit card isn't an acceptable or convenient payment method for them. The alternative payment methods are already set up, why not make them available for all real-money purchases? Please, Kinkoid.

Thanks for the replies and additional info, guys, that's much appreciated, and I'm glad that my initial list wasn't too far off. I didn't realize that most/all 5-star girls were unavailable from the Epic Pachinko (outside of special events), and I had no idea that you could actually get Starting quality girls from it either. This sounds horrible, especially considering there are only 7 girls in the "Starting set" in total, all of which you can and should get pretty quickly from the first 2 Worlds, which are basically long tutorials more than anything (it takes a bit longer for the 3 girls of the first Boss, but I still got them all in under 2 weeks after starting the game). This makes Epic Pachinko an even less appealing investment for kobans than I thought, at least if you're primarily looking for battling team(s) rather than just growing your overall collection, and especially for relatively new players. Even during events when you know some 5-star girls are included, considering how large the base pool already is, the odds of getting one of them seem slim to none for someone with a modest Harem. This leaves strategic combativity refills on specific events to get specific girls as the best option by really far (along with club upgrades when/if you have a solid club and a safe place in it, probably).

Hi, I'm still pretty new to the game as well (in fact, newer than you, even), so please take my advice with a grain of salt. If a veteran could answer as well, I would certainly be very interested in their answer too. Still, since I've started playing, I've been reading the wiki and FAQs a lot, and this has helped me a lot. I'll answer based on the notions I gathered from my research as well as my own experience. First, another way to spend kobans that you didn't mention is to upgrade a girl's Attraction (instead of using tons of Ymens). I did it very early on for my starting battle team, when it was relatively cheap and I had more kobans than gold. I wouldn't say I regret it, exactly, because it helped me advance in the game, but I no longer do that, even when it means I have to wait for days on end to upgrade a girl. In the long run I think it's much better to use in-game money than kobans on this, and it should be easier to do over time as your Harem's income increases. NEVER: 0. Collect money Just don't do that, ever. Either invest €3 a month in the game to get this option as an unlimited feature (and a good deal of extra koban income), or always click each girl manually. If you're F2P, you really really can't afford to throw kobans out the window just to save a few clicks. If you're not F2P, this feature won't cost you kobans anyway. 0. Update market That's another thing I don't think is ever worth paying for. The market updates itself for free 3 times a day (if I counted right), and you're rarely going to need or be able to afford all it has to offer, let alone more. 0. Update arena enemies Similar thing. You already get 3 new opponents every 30 minutes, which is a lot (especially compared to energy or combativity refill rates). Even if you won all the time (which you definitely wouldn't, because of the Mojo system), the rewards from 3 extra arena fights are not worth 24 kobans on average. Even worse, using this feature would only accelerate your Mojo gain, and you'd reach opponents too strong for you even quicker. 0. Refill league fights Unless you're going to be offline for a few days and you still really really want to play out all your fights for that week, I don't see the point in doing that, because you have a limited number of total fights in the league anyway. For instance, the current league will be over in a few hours, and when it ends, I will have fought my 3 fights against 95 out of the other 100 players in my league (just by using my free attacks regularly). At my level, at the very least, paying 200 kobans or so just to get the few extra fights would be a net loss even if I finished 1st! 0. Champion Fight I don't think this is worth it either, probably even less later on, because each Champion has a separate timer, so you should almost always have one available to use your tickets on eventually. I unlocked the feature recently, so I only have Romero to fight so far. I'm really okay waiting 24 hours between 2 stages, even if I end up missing out on 3 daily tickets every once in a while. Every time he becomes available again, I need to spend a bunch of tickets to advance to the next stage anyway, so there's no rush. I know I'll unlock the goodies from the Champions eventually, so I'd rather spend kobans on other things than slightly speeding up this process. 0. Energy Refill Just check the Wiki: the first few worlds are more or less reasonable (they still take quite a while), but from World 5 or 6 onward, they each require a truckload of energy to churn through. You only get 200 free energy a day if you spend it on time (barring +10 here and there from leveling up, which will happen less and less often as you go), which is peanuts. But an energy refill gives you +100, which is unfortunately also peanuts, and it costs you about 250 kobans or so? You need thousands to finish just one world... Sure, it also boosts your XP, and helps you reach certain girls and bosses quicker, but I really don't think it's worth it at all. Patience is key in this game, especially if you don't have tons of kobans. 0. Epic Pachinko (Draft) See _shal_'s answer above. Draft is only slightly better for the girl pick if you have bad RNG on average, but the x10 option is always much better value overall (you get 9 items, including 3 guaranteed legendaries, on top of the girl) and is also a lot better with just decent RNG (you either keep the first girl and save 600 kobans compared to Draft, or you reroll and your odds are the same overall). Having said that, I think that when you're low level, investing in Pachinko in general (especially the ones that cost kobans) isn't really worth it, because the items you get are of your current level when you get them, so they become outdated very quickly. For instance, I hit a wonderful Legendary (rainbow) vest when I was Level 22, and it served me well for a while, but now that I'm more than twice that level, the item became so bad that I scrapped it for a bit of gold. When you reach a certain level, maybe 150 or 200, where you don't level up every day anymore, great items should last you much longer. Which brings me to... GOOD, BUT UP TO A POINT: 3. Epic Pachinko (10 Pulls) This is still very RNG and pretty costly (especially if you're F2P or on a budget), but it seems like a pretty good bang for your koban compared to most other options. As I said above, I think you can get a lot more value out of it when you're at a higher level, at least from the items, and they're a pretty important part of the deal. You could get very lucky and roll a high-quality 5-star girl for your specialty (or one great enough to make you change your specialty), but in general it's still pretty high risk. There's a ton of girls in the pool, and many of them only go up to 3 stars, two thirds of them won't match your specialty anyway, and all of them cost a lot of in-game currency to level up before you can get a good value out of them. Just having a girl, even an epic or a legendary, doesn't do much until you invest resources on her. GREAT WHEN THE STARS ALIGN: 2. Club Upgrade It obviously depends a lot on your club, and your own level and position in the game. The club upgrades seem like awesome benefits to all members, but it's only worth it if you're going to stay in the club for a long time, and if everyone in the club is at least roughly on the same page. When you're low level, you most likely won't find an open spot in a very advanced club, and you won't have a lot of resources to contribute to the club at least initially. I haven't even unlocked this feature yet, but when I do, I plan on taking it slow until I'm high level enough to really make it count. 1. Refill Combativity Again, I agree with _shal_'s answer above. This seems like the best way to spend kobans in general, at least in the right circumstances and when you have enough to spend. I'd seriously consider doing this when there's a good quality 5-star girl matching my specialty available in a boss battle I have access to during a limited time event, and only near the end if I'm reasonably close to unlocking her with my free attacks before I start to invest in refills. For instance, in the current event, if you've been playing for a month, you most likely only have access to the 2 new legendaries, and maybe Mynx if you've already reached Donatien. Those girls all max out at only 3 stars, so I wouldn't consider it worth it, at least from a competitive standpoint. To give a counter example, if I had access to Donatien, during the previous event when Travel Gwenaëlle was unlockable through him, then I would have gone for it, because I'm Know-How and she's a great 5-star Know-How Epic. Instead, I settled for getting Travel Kalissa, a 3-star Rare, during that event (for free, thankfully, I didn't need any refill); that's better than nothing, but not quite comparable imho. That's it from me. I hope this helps, and again, if a veteran passes by and would like to correct or complete my answer, it would be much appreciated. Good luck, have fun!

Good to know, thank you!

Hi all, I'm a pretty new player and this is my first event of this type. I've barely started Invaded Kingdom, so the bosses for the 4 returning epics won't be available for me. For boss fights, I could go for either of the 2 new legendaries, but I could use more info and/or advice to make a decision. 1/ Do we know if the new legendaries are both 5 stars? They're not on the wiki yet and I can't find the info anywhere. They're new, so probably, but better safe than sorry. 2/ Before this event, Gruntt was my new regular boss fight. I haven't gotten a single shard for his 3 regular girls yet. If I go back to Dark Lord, it would be just for a hope to catch the new girl. I'm Know-How, so it would be a better addition for me than the Charm twins (even though they're tempting too), but if I fail to catch Lapsey, then it will be a pure waste, whereas fighting Gruntt would still help me. What to do? Thanks in advance for any help.