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Sweet. Thanks for relaying the info!

Not exactly. For the two girls on the Free Pass, you can just hover over them at just the right spot and if you see 200/100 shards, then you already have the girl: Can't target the two on the koban pass, but the wiki can help there. Having said that, this isn't how it normally should be displayed, and if memory serves in such cases we should get an EPx10 orb for each slot that normally had a girl we already have in our collection. Right now, the display suggests that we'd be getting 100 shards worth of epic flower bunches, which is terrible value in comparison. I hope this gets fixed soon. --- Interestingly, the girl distribution has both girls from one ancient PoV on the Free Pass, and both girls from the other ancient PoV on the Koban Pass. In this particular case, the very first one (at least it's consistent chronologically so far) we have: Both girls from the very first PoV on the free pass Both girls from PoV #2 on the koban pass https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Harem-Heroes/HH:Path-of-Valor It's an unexpected approach, but I get the logic behind it. This way, for someone who truly wasn't there for the original PoVs, it's a similarly priced offer overall: 2 girls and a certain amount of goodies for free, and 2 more girls and more goodies for 7.2k kobans. Although I much prefer the goodies from 2 PoV koban passes than the ones in 1 PoA (or PoR in this version, but it's the exact same format as PoA, to the point that the popup telling you when you earn points for a task still says PoA). But it's still in the same ballpark, and for newer players or players who couldn't afford all PoVs in the past, it's still a decent revival deal. Conversely, for someone who was there for the original PoVs but simply didn't spend the 7.2k (or half of it) to get the extra pass back then, it's not a good catch-up deal. In this case, if you already have both free girls from the original PoVs, but you're missing the two who were on their respective PoV's koban pass... You'll get one of the two girls you're missing for free (as long as you play the PoA/R) but you'll need to cough up 7.2k if you also want the other one. Not a great deal to say the least. So, if that's the revival format, then I'm really glad I've always stayed committed to buying every PoV koban pass ever. Which leads me to what these PoRs should be for us old farts who already have all 4 girls getting revived anyway... It's the same format but you don't have the same incentive to follow the tasks to the letter and to the end of the path. It's extra goodies (hopefully including the EPx10s that should normally replace the girls we already have) and if pushing too far to advance on that reward track is inconvenient or annoying to you, it's not a big deal. You have a decent amount of goodies you can grab while playing for the next 6 days, instead of nothing in particular. At least, I'd try to see it from this angle (if you're in the same situation as I am, having the revived girls already, that is).

From what I've noticed so far, this deal seems to show up shortly after a new PoV starts (but not necessarily right when it starts, as I've only had it show up a few days into this one this time). I remember the one I saw last time in my shop came sooner after the earlier PoV started, early enough that I hadn't spent kobans on the extra path for it yet, and I seriously considered taking the offer. So we can probably guesstimate when the next offer of this type might show up based on PoV dates. Each PoV lasts two weeks, always from reset time on a Friday to reset time two Fridays later. The current one will end on Friday 16th, so the one after that will end on March 1st. If my hunch is correct, then this could line up really well for someone who usually buys the Season Pass and a Silver card. For €10 instead of €8 (€5 for the Season pass and €3 for the Silver card), when you can benefit from all of it, this offer is definitely much more bang for your buck than the individual ones. Thanks a lot, happy to help and appreciate the compliment. ^^ For the record, I'm a he and I have no intentions of quitting anytime soon. <3

Thanks for all the info and pictures. I see that it's as messy and inconsistent for eye and hair color in CxH as it is in HH. Hell, given Omer's example, the ones with photographs don't seem to make a lot more sense either. ^^ It's the kind of thing that would just be funny haha if a lot of any given girl's battle potential didn't depend on these attributes (and our ability to build cohesive teams with synergies that may or may not work as they should, and may or may not stop working whenever they change a girl's eye or hair color on a whim). As it is, it's still funny in a facepalm way, but mostly just frustrating and it makes our strategies less reliable (for teams based on either eye or hair color at least).

Hopefully (or it will get fixed as Rosso announced). Fingers crossed! Speaking of Jun, she's a bit... too eager in my Laby Shop right now. ^^

The She-Hulk parody in that screenshot? Is she not supposed to be using her powers in that pic (breaking through a wall like it's made of paper)? Her skin is bright pink (possibly arguably kind of a very light purple) but her hair look brown to me. Does she have another stage of transformation in which her hair turn purple too? Also, beyond the fact that they're definitely getting plenty of hair and eye colors wrong in all three drawn games (I hope it's better in the ones based on photographs)... I don't think they can give one character more than two attributes for the same category. And only one of the two will get the GS3 when relevant. So they couldn't make her hair count as Black, Purple and Brown.

It's just a poorly chosen name for the offer, but it's not actually targeted at new players. I have it in my real-money Shop right now and it's the second time I see it since they introduced it (which wasn't long ago, maybe a month or so). On paper, for those who can afford it, it's a really good deal compared to the regular ones. The season pass on its own costs €5 (and is the best value of all the regular offers by far). For €5 more, you also get the PoV path which otherwise costs 3,600 kobans and one month of the gold subscription, normally sold for €10 on its own. Having said that, if the deal simply gets worse instead of cheaper when you already have some of what's in it, I wouldn't recommend getting it. In my case, I've already unlocked the PoV extra path with my kobans, several days before this offer appeared for me... Not as tempting in that situation (even if I wasn't broke, I mean ^^).

Completed her last night. Easily the best work from New Dude so far, and very nice mythic overall. <3

FTFY. ^^ (I get you meant the general "you" there, but just for clarity). I fall under the category you already acknowledged in an ealier post: These are all my missing L5s. Aside from the current LG and the two Laby exclusives, I'm missing nothing but ME girls, and still quite a bunch of them (even if right now the list is a bit inflated by the 4 current HA girls, for whom I shouldn't need Laby coins). It will be awhile before "having something to spend coins on" becomes a concern for me. ^^ Interestingly, in the Harem, Takara still says "Get me in the Labyrinth" and not "I was available in the Labyrinth". Seems to confirm she's not meant to have been removed by Jun's addition. (Also yes, I had enough for 20 shards of one girl for a few days before Jun's release, but I was waiting to see the new Sapphire Market (and potentially the new Laby girl too) before committing them. After this fuckup, I panicked and grabbed 20 shards of Jun just to be on the safe side (for her, at least). ^^

Which means you're more vulnerable to sudden changes, especially an unexpected koban sink dropping out of nowhere at the end of the month (like Nike's MDR). There are pros and cons to both approaches, investing and stashing. And in practice I think most of us do somewhere in between with different parts of the game anyway. I really hope Jun and Takara will actually rotate in Slot 1 (and with future girls as they get added as well). It would be the best of both worlds, imho. In any case, I really hope I didn't just get screwed and past Laby exclusives are simply lost if they're still at 0 shards when the next one shows up. This would suck and directly contradict what has been announced (it wasn't second hand, there was a message on Discord that Bolitho posted as a screenshot on the forum, I'm pretty sure).

For future Laby exclusives, and for those who already bought Takara shards at least once when she was (alone) in Slot 1, sure. I'm still hoping Slot 1 will rotate between Jun and Takara for those of us who haven't picked up any Takara shards, though.

Same here. I haven't picked any shard for the first Laby exclusive (Tanaka?) and yet the new one (Jun?) appeared in the first slot in her place when she got added this morning for me too: Right now, I'm not sure what's happening exactly. It could be that the first slot is reserved for Laby exclusives, but that it rotates randomly between those available with every Market refresh, just like the second slot does for other L5s (that we have shards for already). At least that's my hope. If so, it would still be pretty close to the CC and LG system as in you don't miss out on past exclusive girls if you haven't finished them before the next one is added, while also having a bit of the Laby flair with the RNG selection for each refresh. Allowing us to choose which girl to prioritize among the exclusives too, rather than having to complete Girl #1 to access Girl #2 and so on. But I have no confirmation or info either way. It could also be a mix-up and those who didn't pick any shards for Tanaka yet no longer have the opportunity to do so (which would also mean we need to hurry up for Jun before she disappears in two months and so on). This would contradict what's been announced, though. Fingers crossed, and I'll definitely keep an eye on this. Let's share the first screenshot for one of us where Tanaka shows up again even though Jun is out?

Yeah, that me made shrug too. After they included "Blessed" as part of a girl variant's name, nothing can surprise me. Maybe the next Dominatrix MD girl will be called "Eccentric __" to balance things out. ^^

Yeah, this one seems to have been drawn by... well, I don't have a nickname for him yet, but the more recent artist who I originally thought was hopelessly behind the others in terms of mastering his craft and probably didn't belong in that team for art quality consistency. But he's shown fairly consistent progress in the past few months, going from 1-star level of weak art to at least pretty good 3-stars (albeit still variable, especially in terms of anatomy) and a couple of L5s (one of which was really stale and felt rushed, the next one not so bad). Can't say I'm enthused he's drawn these 4 exclusive super special L5 with actual full affection scenes. But it should be fine (hopefully). What I'm really worried about at this point is: WHERE IS VENUS?! Her contributions have been really scarce in the past few months, and she hasn't handled any big series like MD or ME in ages. She's their best artist (and my favorite). I miss her amazing work (now even a bit more since Ben K left). I hope she's still in the team and this is just a temporary setback. --- Edit: Oh, and in terms of revivals, we get the full galactic ME roster, which is great! It was one of those old SE formats where I didn't reach the 3rd girl, so I have both Sun Nike and Moon Norou to grab (or rather, to unlock for distant future grabbing ^^ but that's still awesome). On top of the 4 new girls, ofc.

I haven't looked at more than the initial pose and partial pose in the banner, but it looks to me that this might be the first MD handled by New Dude. I mean, the nipples (and boobs in general) look like Toon Dude's style, but the face (eyes and smile in particular) look a lot more like New Dude's. Looks pretty sweet and I'm glad this character is getting a new variant (even though some much older classic recurring characters have yet to get a Mythic variant; but there's no rush as long as the rotation among the roster hasn't stabilized and the quality becomes reliable again, nobody wants another MD with VR Neono quality).

Yeah, it seems a bit weird to me too. I mean, for proper (bigger) Sex Friends promotions, we definitely need to visit the partner site (and sometimes register an account for it too). I would never have guessed that closing the ad (which normally means "no, thanks, I won't take this offer") would still grant you the rewards from the Sex Friends menu.

Oh damn, you're right. They're adding the second girl tomorrow and the feature was released in early December (not counting its time on the test server), so that fits. I can't believe it's only been two months! ^^ Okay, so this means my bad decision (skipping coin bags) was even worse than I just realized today. All the more reason to change it. Thanks!

They're the literal same cost in kobans per point, which is exactly twice the koban cost per point from champion fights (although of course champion fights also cost tickets). I added screenshots to my previous posts for more clarity.

I'd recommend against buying anything other than shards using Laby Coins. They're exactly the same cost in kobans (216 kobans for 20 Fists worth 1 point each = 216 kobans for 10 Kisses worth 2 points each). You're guaranteed to win the fights against villains whereas you can lose a Season fight, though. EDIT: As long as you have tickets, Champions are the cheapest option in terms of kobans to get more points, by far. You can get 10 points from 54 kobans for 10 champ fights (if you wait 15 minutes between x10s, otherwise it's 60 kobans), compared to 108 kobans for 10 points from either Fists or Kisses. --- Nooo... Fallen and Horsting got the Cinnamon sticks. I'm so jealous! /s These will decorate your booster inventory next to the pink bottle of perfume for years to come! ^^

That's better than the ancient Sumerian dialect it is to me. ^^ You guys rule. <3 This mode seems to be bugged even beyond what we already knew, which was already bugged beyond belief. At this point, I'm honestly wondering if it's even worth keeping track of what works and what doesn't, especially since it looks like some bugs aren't even constant? Short of playing with Ajax and Jason as advisors at every stage (speaking of Greeks ^^)... Nothing can be trusted. It seems to me that overall, the simpler the effect the less likely it is to be bugged? So for instance a flat DPS buff for "all girls" or "all girls of X element" is more likely to work as intended than anything with more variables (chief among them the "a random girl gets a bonus or a curse" type of relics). Or am I being too optimistic even with that?

I raised an eyebrow at "daily" too, but since Jelom multiplied his "daily" totals by 15 for a monthly estimate and so on, he simply meant "per run" by that, not "every day". Except for the monthly total that was almost twice too much, so for that one I guess he got temporarily confused and doubled the multiplier. ^^ It's nice that you spotted the error (and thanks Jelom for editing your post accordingly). His yearly estimate was already correct, though: 504x365/2 = 91,980. And that's what he based the shard estimates on. So you're both right in terms of ballpark (and that's more than enough for me). So the total amount of shards I'm missing out on by skipping all the coin bags is a bit more than 10 per month slash 120 per year (for other L5s), and closer to 12 per month slash 140 per year for the Laby exclusives. That's a lot. Considering a new Laby exclusive gets added every 3 months, so 4 of them per year, AND I already have a significant queue of partial L5s to complete (which will only grow overtime)... This seems like a clear mistake on my part. Granted, I'm getting some other resources as a trade-off, but unlike Laby coins, I can get those from plenty of other sources (except for PXP, but still). The PXP for a red fight is around 1.2k apiece, so that sounds about right too. And it's way less for yellow fights (only around 700) and I'm not sure about green fights. So, hypothetical best case scenario in which I'd get a red fight for every coin bag I skip (which is of course never the case), that's at best around 10k PXP per run, 150k PXP per month, 1.825M per year. Every extra level takes me around 360k PXP now (and it keeps growing although not exponentially as it used to, thankfully), so that's maybe 5 extra Hero levels per year. More realistically, 3 or 4 extra Hero levels a year, since the extra fights are almost never going to all be red ones. Along with: So, roughly 11 extra Kisses and 7 extra Fists a day. We could estimate what that adds up to per month or per year, but it wouldn't make as much sense since these are consumables and not resources I can just stash for ages without missing out. All in all, it doesn't seem worth the trade-off at all. PXP wise, just the koban path of PoG adds up to 115k a month that I'm not getting anyway (while whales probably can afford 5.4k kobans just for the PXP and extra goodies, including even if they already have all the PoG girls too). Besides, even 5 levels a year wouldn't reduce the gap significantly between me and those already at Hero level 660+ (and even if it did, we're all slowly headed towards the new Level 1000 cap anyway, and speeding that up a tiny bit over years isn't really impactful). Kisses and Fists, well it's even worse. Outside of events they're not adding all that much to my daily routine. During events, I typically need to spend a lot of kobans over on refills anyways, and within a couple of days or a bit longer, so at best this strategy might spare me a few hundred kobans per event. All of the above combined doesn't compare to more than a full extra L5 a year. Especially since these are typically the hardest L5s to get, and shards are bought 20 at a time with multiple girls I'm trying to complete in parallel, so getting more coins out of each Laby run will give me more flexibility and convenience for that goal (it's better than if I had to sit on them for a year and then get a girl in one go). Thanks a LOT again, this helped me greatly and I've completely changed my mind on this decision thanks to you! From now on, I'll go for all the coin bags I can. <3 PS: It's a bit of a first for me, but I ran out of reaction smileys again! ^^ Two days in a row.

Thanks, Jelom. That's very interesting, and much more than I expected. To be fair, it's not just the extra Kisses and Fists but also the extra Player XP that makes me want to pick more hard fights instead of grabbing the coin bags. But reading your calculations for how many coins I'm missing out on... I'm not so sure it's worth it (especially since I have a LOT of L5s I want to slooowly complete with Laby coins, now and for the foreseeable future). I'd need to calculate how many extra Fists, Kisses and especially how much extra PXP I'm getting by avoiding the coins, just to get a better idea. But my gut feeling is that this wasn't my best decision and I would probably benefit more from the extra coins in the long run.

But what if we miss an edit war over a girl's name, or the next girl with objectively blue hair who gets changed to count as "purple"? ^^ These are the funniest (well, to read and talk about that is; they're usually not fun when the random attribute change spoils your team's synergy).

For sure, I absolutely get that when you're way ahead of the power curve, it's great for results but it can easily get boring after awhile (even faster if you're doing it on multiple clones in parallel). And I understand the urge to find ways to make it more challenging and/or amusing to go through. This reminds me of "pro" arena players back in the early years of HearthStone when that mode wasn't as developed as the rest and a big part of the field was super casual. They'd get bored of winning all their runs and eventually give themselves silly little challenges like picking the leftmost card every time for an entire draft. ^^ Sorry I'm not up to date on everyone's habits in your club. ^^ I just remember Limule used to be END (which is still his forum name IIRC) and that END used to be a whale, but that was a long time ago. As for the other scary rabbit you're hinting at, I was afraid to ask, to be honest. I'm sure he's not your average Joe, though. ^^ (woopsie!)

I have zero coding skills or notions. But you guys make me dream! ^^ I wish I could just clone my harem and the adventure mode and side quests to keep them locally for viewing at my leisure (and in case the site shuts down someday, hopefully not anytime soon, but having a private local copy of what I've unlocked would still be reassuring, and also more convenient). It could also be a way to include and save both versions of art that has been (or will be) changed or reworked. But yeah, unless I'm handed a ready-made tool that I just need to launch, that's not happening. PS: Wow, that was some lightning fast edit there! I saw Yami's last post as doubled, hid the extra one, and when I refreshed the page I saw that the other had been deleted, so I put the other one back up. ^^ Edit: Hmm... Okay, nobody but me shows in the mod history for this thread, so... I guess I'm seeing double, now. ^^ (Good thing I'll have new glasses soon).