Moizevitch Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Hello guys. I would like to ask a question, but this question is only for the people who pay, ok? Those people who buy gold (kobans), who spend your own money in the game, in other words, the people who support the kinkoid family. I would like to hear from you if this image situation (purchase or achievement of a legendary item) happens to you as well. If so, how does it feel? Cause this does not help the character evolve at all. What is it like to spend some money and see that your money went down the drain? Although I don't spend a penny of my real money investing in the game, I say I get frustrated at least. Do you struggle so much to see that an item is useless? Is this feeling the same with you? If so, why not charge for changes? It's clear that the kinkoid family only hears who pays. Well that's it! Thank you for your attention. Bye. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салерион Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 At least - you're wrong. In your opinion that the item shown by you is useless. This is not true. Well, or not so much. Because. And about useless violet. It's when you're 40! items in a row look and 40! from them you send to shop for sale. Because RNG in the parameters and in the type of the object (6 times in a row, a hat? Is this normal). And as a result, stay in clothes 5 levels younger than your current level. But the players - they are such. "Prick, cry, but continue to gnaw cactus." (c) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 Thank you Салерион for your reply. According to you, I'm wrong because I can collect 40 items and sell them. Is this correct? Sorry, I couldn't understand you widely. Well, if that's it, ok, I can imagine you're getting the legendary items from champions rewards, right? But what if I get it from pachinko? Should I play until I get a good amount of items and sell them? What if I want to improve my character? What if I'm not interested in sales? Do you know? That is my point. I'm selling something, but what I need is to improve my character. Thanks anyway for your view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The point is: The object in your screenshot is a good item and you must buy it and equip it to improve your stats (unless your strategy is going with all gear multistat). Then you can sell the item substituted (unless you want it to use in some ocassions, e.g. fighting champions to gain harmony). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Moizevitch said: Thank you Салерион for your reply. According to you, I'm wrong because I can collect 40 items and sell them. Is this correct? Sorry, I couldn't understand you widely. Well, if that's it, ok, I can imagine you're getting the legendary items from champions rewards, right? But what if I get it from pachinko? Should I play until I get a good amount of items and sell them? What if I want to improve my character? What if I'm not interested in sales? Do you know? That is my point. I'm selling something, but what I need is to improve my character. Thanks anyway for your view. The real question is, do i know how the game works? And the answer is no As jelom said, that item is good, i would use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 Thanks for your opinion jelom and Daniele . What happens, is that the purple item is mine. In fact, you are seeing my game screen, did you notice my name above? I won the item on pachinko when I last played it. And apparently it seems to improve the character's powers, right? But it's not the case! The EGO decreases! If you doubt, try yourselves! Play champions, when you win two purple items as rewards, use them and watch if your EGO increase! Then you will understand what I am talking about! And no, buying to sell is not a good deal, because to buy, the item costs X, and to sell costs 10 times less! Does that look like a good deal to you? 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Are you really sure about it? From what i can see in your screenshot, the single stat item should give you 17865 ego and the rainbow one 17545 (-320). Club bonuses could slightly change things, but it seems you're not in any club, so this is not the case. If anything, you lose ~4k+ harmony, but that stat is not that important. However, both items are good, and ego-wise they're pretty much the same. The real difference is 1339 atk vs. ~1070 def + ~4k harmony. I would generally choose the former for pvp and maybe the latter for certain champions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салерион Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 @Moizevitch 1) In your first message, you complain that the item in the screenshot is a bad one. This is not true. As you have already been told, besides me, 2 more people. If you do not know how to count game stats and which stat is responsible for what - this does not mean that the item is bad. 2) My example is about 40 purple items that go to the store for sale. This is exactly the case when you start whining and asking questions. But in my case, the experiment was not sufficiently “clean” and I did not make the necessary screens. Therefore, I did not then raise this question. 3) Questions about the "quality" of purple pieces of equipment from Pachinko (and now we can add the "quality" of items from champions). And about the extent to which the RNG works “through the ass” in the case of Pachinko - they have been raised more than once at the forum. Result = ZERO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Well Daniele and Салерион , thanks for your tips and opinions. Daniele I don't know where you got these numbers from, but I like the simplicity. I simply see how much I win and lose, if I use this or that item won or bought. According to you, EGO may increase ~ 320, but Hardcore and Charm will decrease +2000! Is it worth it to have the EGO slightly expanded over other variables? My opinion? I don't think so. But I understand if you think differently. I don't want to have the EGO too high and the other items low. I want as balanced as possible. I participate in arenas and have already beaten colleagues who had exactly that profile: high EGO and some very low items. This turns the Achilles heel, you know? Салерион 3 hours ago, Салерион said: 3) Questions about the "quality" of purple pieces of equipment from Pachinko (and now we can add the "quality" of items from champions). And about the extent to which the RNG works “through the ass” in the case of Pachinko - they have been raised more than once at the forum. Result = ZERO. My starting point, is that legendary items, precisely because they are more expensive and harder to obtain, could ONLY add points, not subtract, as it does at the moment. And the payers, I don't know if it's your case guys, may demand it from the kinkoid! I don't like these discussions that lead to nothing either. Payers have the power to charge change, while non-payers, like me, at most can ask you guys why to continue that way. From what I'm seeing, you all see the advantage in this, so that's why you all don't complain! Now it's clear to me. Thanks for the "light"! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Moizevitch said: According to you, EGO may increase ~ 320, but Hardcore and Charm will decrease +2000! Is it worth it to have the EGO slightly expanded over other variables? My opinion? I don't think so. As you were already told: 10 hours ago, Daniele said: The real difference is 1339 atk vs. ~1070 def + ~4k harmony. Your shiny hardcore and charm stats are worthless beyond that defensive contribution. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салерион Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) We continue the conversation about the legendary items of equipment. And about their "quality". According to the results of the daily fulfillment of the tasks of the anniversary, I received ... 3.6 kk bucks (which is equal to the profitability of my harem in 24 hours). Weapons - 1 level out of date (thanks to the champions). The rest of the equipment is obsolete by 2 levels (fucking Pachinko ... and the same champions). This is what it is worth complaining about. And about the opportunity to collect a set of mono-stat (for my class) with the current level - I do not even stutter. Edited July 24, 2019 by Салерион Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, Салерион said: We continue the conversation about the legendary items of equipment. And about their "quality". According to the results of the daily fulfillment of the tasks of the anniversary, I received ... 3.6 kk bucks (which is equal to the profitability of my harem in 24 hours). Weapons - 1 level out of date (thanks to the champions). The rest of the equipment is obsolete by 2 levels (fucking Pachinko ... and the same champions). 54 minutes ago, Салерион said: This is what it is worth complaining about. And about the opportunity to collect a set of mono-stat (for my class) with the current level - I do not even stutter. Kkkk... And it's not what I was talking about??? If you are supporting the kinkoid family, make yourself heard! If you are paying, you can!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салерион Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moizevitch said: And it's not what I was talking about??? If you are supporting the kinkoid family, make yourself heard! If you are paying, you can!!! This is what you say. But in my case - this is how it was necessary to talk. Payment? I? I am a beggar Ukrainian. I paid about 15 euros in total (3 months of a silver subscription and two times the cheapest packages). I can't even afford a starter pack. Although I used to lick him hard. But spending 5 euros on my own leisure and entertainment is still a luxury. And now I’m sure that I’ll no longer renew my subscription. And certainly I will not buy a starter pack. Although I’m going to work again in Poland, where I can at least make some normal money. And you are too exaggerating, in your perception, the possibility of paying players to influence something through the forum. I played a lot of what. And in some game projects was part of the administration. Players as a whole, no matter if they pay or not, may try to influence something through the forum. But this is how it goes. Can listen, can send fuck you. Sometimes even literally or only slightly veiled. Most often simply ignored. Those who REALLY have the right to vote. Those who pay the developer money regularly, in thousands of currency units. Those solve their problems with the developers not through the forum. And this, as a rule, no one knows anything. Sometimes only we can guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Салерион said: Those who REALLY have the right to vote. Those who pay the developer money regularly, in thousands of currency units. Those solve their problems with the developers not through the forum. And this, as a rule, no one knows anything. Sometimes only we can guess. So the way would be to find out who pays the devs and share thoughts with them. Kkkk ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Moizevitch said: Daniele I don't know where you got these numbers from, but I like the simplicity. I'm not surprised, that's why i said you don't know how the game works. 10 hours ago, Moizevitch said: According to you, EGO may increase ~ 320, but Hardcore and Charm will decrease +2000! Is it worth it to have the EGO slightly expanded over other variables? My opinion? I don't think so. Yes, i think so. If you're interested about the battle mechanics, you can check the wiki: https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Harem-Heroes/HH:Battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салерион Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Moizevitch said: So the way would be to find out who pays the devs and share thoughts with them. There is such an old saying ... "The Negro's problems are not interesting for the sheriff!" If something does not suit him, he will tell them about it himself. And if he gets everything ok, he doesn't give a damn what the "negros" think about it. If a person comes to the casino and leaves there 1KK bucks - he does not give a damn that the minimum chip costs 100 bucks. And do not care that many not so rich players would like to play small, with a bet of 10. The example is not the most correct. But the essence reflects very accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Daniele said: Yes, i think so. If you're interested about the battle mechanics, you can check the wiki: https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Harem-Heroes/HH:Battle Thanks Daniele. I will check it out later. Although, as I said earlier, I prefer the old but good way to test the items one by one, and see if the set has improved or not. ☺️ 18 hours ago, Салерион said: The example is not the most correct. But the essence reflects very accurately. Yep Салерион, I understand your point. 👍 Edited July 25, 2019 by Moizevitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Moizevitch said: Although, as I said earlier, I prefer the old but good way to test the items one by one, and see if the set has improved or not. ☺️ That requires an understanding of what's an improvement and what isn't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салерион Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 So, we continue the conversation about the "quality" of legendary items ... The second batch of a full set of "rainbow", received for activity during the anniversary. Items of equipment received from champions: And if shown above causes severe irritation. What is shown below simply melts the chair beneath me. Item Level 247 = 2837 stat. Item level 254 = 2811 stat. Everything is fine, right? All, fuck, just great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moizevitch Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 7:07 PM, Салерион said: And if shown above causes severe irritation. What is shown below simply melts the chair beneath me. Understand now? It is meaningless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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