Methos2 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I just read Rosso's letter from the patch note. It's long but seems sincere. I'm encouraged to hear about the mistakes that he admitted to and about the directions that they are planning on HH. HH should be about connections to the girls, not tactics and strategies. Just hope that they will carry it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifs Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 41 minutes ago, Alander said: An unscheduled update is a preliminary hurrah. They've finally fixed the areas where the game was lagging. Activities and especially places of power are now almost lag-free. If they also managed to avoid introducing bugs, then that's absolutely wonderful. That was a really pleasant surprise. And the game for now really flies. Was not expecting anymore anything for this month since it's almost done. So good job from Kinkoid. Also read the letter and not really sure what to expect in the future. But then again also agree that there are quite many battles and not that much strong connection to the harem itself. It is a bit off from the initial statement that harem is about piece and fun and less about fighting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-17 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) Are you being sarcastic or serious? Because PoP has basically stopped loading in all games. P.S. Oh, no, it's all the Several QoL script. Everything worked fine without it. P.P.S. I haven't noticed any significant speedup yet. It even seems to be loading slower. Plus, it seems like all the images are loading again. Edited June 26 by Master-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alander Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 @Master-17 I had the worst lags on HH.com. Almost every action in the activities took about 20 seconds. Now the same actions take less than a second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-17 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 hours ago, Master-17 said: P.S. Oh, no, it's all the Several QoL script. Everything worked fine without it. Script was updated. Now it works fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
430i Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 hours ago, Alander said: @Master-17 I had the worst lags on HH.com. Almost every action in the activities took about 20 seconds. Now the same actions take less than a second. The game was barely playable for me as well and now it blazing fast, so credit where credit is due. Sometimes I think its even a bit too fast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vovantillo Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 My game also runs smoothly in places of power now; it used to be incredibly slow. I've even recently started spending Kobans on places of power to avoid wasting too much time. However, the lag in Penta Drill is still the same, at least for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Do you see the tears in my eyes? I can't believe this day has come. The game is playable again. Screen loads like a lightning, my eyes cannot follow it. They mush have cleared tons of lines in the old lagging code, or just not calling all the girls data every time like before. This time Kinkoid did a good job. 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnoria Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 19 minutes ago, jelom said: They mush have cleared tons of lines in the old lagging code, or just not calling all the girls data every time like before. I doubt it. That's the problem they were probably doing lazy code to load the girls and so there is at least O(n²) complexity (maybe more) in terms of requests to the database (where n is the number of girls in your harem) and they probably transformed it to O(log n) complexity by adding code to explain what they needed to load for each feature instead of just letting a framework (an ORM) doing the job for you (badly). I'm thinking of the ORM N+1 problem there. But credit where it's due, thanks Kinkoid for finally doing something about it, it was really painful until today. I'm finally able to claim/set my pops in less than 5 minutes without any script (and I was using QoL PoP+ for those 5 minutes). For those who are interested : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object–relational_mapping Edited June 26 by mdnoria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der DinX Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) After updating the scripts in PoP it is as if there is no script at all. Just the pure vanilla game, very annoying - What do I do wrong? Even if this might respond faster than before, this is no option for me as it takes much longer to do them all. Edited June 26 by Der DinX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifs Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 hours ago, Vovantillo said: My game also runs smoothly in places of power now; it used to be incredibly slow. I've even recently started spending Kobans on places of power to avoid wasting too much time. However, the lag in Penta Drill is still the same, at least for me. Yes. Penta drill is still slow also for me. Guess they will cover that soon too. Though in Penta drill there is a complexity of those 5 teams. That might be a bit difficult to digest but definately not impossible. But i have also mentioned before that there are a bit too much of characters and their variations in the game. Some characters are already having like 10 versions, plus skins, plus skills. Too complex form of development. As well there are already like 100 Mythic characters that also makes mythics quite worthless. I tried adding skin to the mythic guy and within power ranking it had no affect anymore at least in my case. So i believe there should be some consolidation of characters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnoria Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 5 hours ago, Der DinX said: After updating the scripts in PoP it is as if there is no script at all. Just the pure vanilla game, very annoying - What do I do wrong? Kinkoid changed a lot of things/data in the PoP page so no scripts works atm. QoL has been updated 5 hours ago to fix it. There's a bit less information than before but still better than native UX/UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos2 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 QoL PoP++ works with the new update now. I just used it. I claimed and refreshed all PoP in about 30 sec when it was 6 minutes for me 3 days ago. Thank you KK. Thank you @infarctus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der DinX Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) Ok, I checked for an update right now and it is working again. Indeed oh boy, it is very fast. 😁 Thanks to KK for this improvement and a very special thanks to our coders for fixing the scripts so fast as well. 😍 Edited June 27 by Der DinX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infarctus Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) @Methos2 @Der DinX ty for the kind words. I realize many people aren't on the HH script discord so I'll be reposting it here what I said. 3days ago : Quote I'll be stopping all development on Several QoL probably for quite some time I'm getting tired of working alone on Several QoL & I have less & less time in my life for it Several QoL will still receive minimal updates, such as bugfixing but not at the same rate as before. Edited June 27 by infarctus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
430i Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 8 hours ago, Methos2 said: QoL PoP++ works with the new update now. I just used it. I claimed and refreshed all PoP in about 30 sec when it was 6 minutes for me 3 days ago. Thank you KK. Thank you @infarctus Did you really claim them one by one? As soon as the game became laggy I started doing claim/start all and even that was mega slow, but at least it was only 2 clicks. I can probably now claim and start all PoPs manually and will still be faster than the claim/start all from before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infarctus Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 hours ago, 430i said: Did you really claim them one by one? As soon as the game became laggy I started doing claim/start all and even that was mega slow, but at least it was only 2 clicks. I can probably now claim and start all PoPs manually and will still be faster than the claim/start all from before. Who do you take me for, ofc it's fast with PoP++ 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos2 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, 430i said: Did you really claim them one by one? yes I did. Those claiming cost adds up quickly. Edited June 27 by Methos2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnoria Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 7 hours ago, 430i said: Did you really claim them one by one? As soon as the game became laggy I started doing claim/start all and even that was mega slow, but at least it was only 2 clicks. I can probably now claim and start all PoPs manually and will still be faster than the claim/start all from before. Same as Methos. If you consider you refresh 3 times a day (and I can sometimes do 4 for multiple days in a row), it costs at least 1080 kobans a month to use the claim/start all feature (except if on a Diamond card where it makes sense to use it since you're paying for it). Edited June 27 by mdnoria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garadron Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 In my case I was doing refresh twice a day because doing it on mobile while at work was too bad and couldn't justify spending nubans on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
430i Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 14 hours ago, Methos2 said: yes I did. Those claiming cost adds up quickly. Sure, but they more or less pay for themselvem - at least my gut feeling was that the koban PoP more or less covered the costs. I would never imaging wasting 30 or so minutes every day just waiting for some browser game to load. Until I remembered that I could do claim/start all I even stopped doing them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos2 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 @430i Well, we have different pain threshold then. It doesn't sound like I'm alone in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-17 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 What happened to PoP? When you set up Autoassign, for some reason the 3rd PoP lasts a minute longer than all the others. And all this is the same in all 3 games. I'm not sure how it will be with manually fill, because now all the PoP's are filled in everywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon_sama Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) On 6/29/2026 at 11:41 AM, Master-17 said: What happened to PoP? When you set up Autoassign, for some reason the 3rd PoP lasts a minute longer than all the others. And all this is the same in all 3 games. Okay, so it's not just me. I've noticed that 2-3 of my PoPs are weirdly a minute ahead. Scratch that. I'm about to reset my PoPs and found that 4 are ahead by a minute. I'll try some experimenting. Testing: Use of autofill does not eliminate the >1 minute extra wait time for the permanent PoP Let's try manual selection of the girls (for a temporary PoP) That works fine. Let's try autofill of a temporary PoP. Autofill is fine when doing it from the individual PoP screen I tried using PoP++ autofill on the last temporary PoP and it has an extra minute Very weird 🤔 Testing 2: I disabled absolutely everything (extensions, scripts, etc.). Use of autoassign still caused the third permanent PoP to be over 6 hours. I'll try again with manual assignment in 6 hours. At this point, I suspect it is just this PoP that's an issue and maybe temporary PoPs when using PoP++. Edited June 30 by Anon_sama Two rounds of testing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vovantillo Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 For the first time in almost three years, I reached the end. And I felt no sense of satisfaction. I thought it might go on forever, like Penta Drill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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