​📜​Patch Notes Hentai Heroes 2024 ​📜​

[Guest Tohru - Kinkoid]

Thank you all for your feedback on Update Week #12 and the League Girls in a Stack.
I will be forwarding the relevant comments and observations to the team for review 💗.
 

@DvDivXXX About Messenger currencies, your feedback has already been forwarded. 🌻

[Ravi-Sama]

On 1/10/2023 at 1:16 AM, Ravi-Sama said:

...I think a necessary addition should be the ability to specify the amount you want to refill in small (1) increments.  Useful for leagues when you only see one player un-boosted (3 fights).  Also for any other feature, when you only need a little bit more to finish a task (daily missions/PoA).  The pantheon doesn't matter much, since that energy is already stored past the limit, most of the time.  CP and league refills will probably be the most noticeable change, since I use them most often.

A better change imo, would be to max each bar to an entire day's worth of resources, but to add the ability to choose specific refills, so it's not excessively expensive anytime you just want a small amount more.

Yay!  I haven't tried it yet, but I think it's a great improvement.  Can't wait.  Still sad about not being able to stack temple worship from leagues any longer though.

Don't care about custom bundles, since I'm F2P.

The DP balancing is cool, thanks.  Costs less and rewards more.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Ravi-Sama

[Liliat]

il y a 26 minutes, Ravi-Sama a dit :

Yay!  I haven't tried it yet, but I think it's a great improvement.  Can't wait.

They changed the way koban price values are rounded. You now pay full price for every single point, even if you're just 1 minute away from your next point.

I guess the good news is that you can now refill just 19 points if you're seconds away from 1/20, so it doesn't really matter? But we'll have to be careful.

[430i]

Couple of questions:

- How do you refill league fights? There is no + button, but directly a refill button with a koban price, does this offer the option to do partial refill? Anyone want to try it out?

- Anyone brave enough to try out the "Full refill" button with more than 10 kisses? For me the button shows few negative amounts (-X kisses, -Y kobans), does this mean we can sell resources as well?!?!

[bolitho76]

My commetns to the Patch Notes 14/2023:

New Scroll: Allways wellcome 👍

Ressource refill changes: At the first glimpse a good adition. You can much better adjust how much you will buy and don't have to buy only a full refill. In the League and the Season I had in very rare occasions the problem that I had messed to follow the tokensbar correctly and had to buy some more tokens than needed. With the new system this will not be an issue any more. That you can buy more than a full bar is sometimes a good improvement (mostly for MD/MDRs). You can safe some clicks and buy a greater amount of combativty with one step. In PoA with the Energy tasks at the end it can be also a good adition for some who need refills. In most cases im not convinced that it will be useful, but perhaps other players with other playstiles will think it will be useful... All in all a good improvement. 👍

Custum Bundles: For players who buy bundles this could be a good improvement. I can't say if it's really so, because I don't buy bundles. 🤷‍♂️

Double Penetration Balance Improvement: Nice step, but this doesn't fix the main problem of this kind of Event. It's the whole design that you have to avoid to make anything in the game because it could be the next task you get to do in DP. So the change is welcome, but better would be to use the wastebin for this event. (Yes, I'm still displeased about this whole event). So in generell a 👎 but in the specific about the changes a 👍

TransPornStarHarem: New clon. Why not? Not my personal taste, but there could be a great enough group of interested to make it a success. I'm neutral to this.

1 hour ago, 430i said:

How do you refill league fights? There is no + button, but directly a refill button with a koban price, does this offer the option to do partial refill?

You can use the backpack and there is the + button 🙂

Edited April 5, 2023 by bolitho76

[Antimon]

8 ore fa, 430i ha scritto:

- How do you refill league fights? There is no + button, but directly a refill button with a koban price, does this offer the option to do partial refill? Anyone want to try it out?

yep, by clicking the refill button with the koban price it opens the window in which you choose if you're fine to refill up to 15  total points available or if you want to refill more/less. Or you can do it in the backpack menu as @bolitho76said.

That said I kind of agree with everything bolitho76 said. I took a look on how the custom bundles function, though, and it doesn't seem to me the best way to develop this feature

I get the fixed amount of things/total value of the bundle: giving the chance of buying an undefined quantity of rainbow gems/orbs at a "bundle discount" value could have been too much.
But once you decided the limit of toatl value one player could buy via custom bundle (9,99€ with a 330% value), and once you established the fixed amount of obects which are worth one third of that total value of the bundle, why won't you let me choose three times the same thing? We're talking about 2 x3= 6 epic orbs,  75 x3= 225 rainbow gems, 11 x3= 333 CPs. Nothing that gamechanging, even more considering custom bundles are available once in a month. 

It's a nice introduction for those who buy bundles, and nothing "too p2w" at that, but still, it's kind of... stupid? I cannot find a nicer way to put it.

[OmerB]

On 3/22/2023 at 10:55 AM, Ravi-Sama said:

I don't mind the new league girls stacked, that's the way champion and PoP girls always worked.  It's a good thing.

I'm not sure that the change in getting the league girls is fair towards older players, who fought to get the girls on time, and especially to players (like me) who used precious SM coins to get league girls from the SM shop, thinking that they won't (or don't) have a revival. I would've sved those coins for LD girls that I'm missing shards of...

They should have made it from the newer girls on, but not retrospective.

Now every player, even playing quite stupid, can get the league girls...

[DvDivXXX]

Nah. Change is good. The kneejerk "hey! no fair! we didn't have that back in my day" reaction is understandable but not really legitimate. If we held on to that the game would have never improved. I'm glad the LG system was improved even though I've just completed the latest LG today and I got them all with the previous system.

[OmerB]

1 hour ago, DvDivXXX said:

Nah. Change is good. The kneejerk "hey! no fair! we didn't have that back in my day" reaction is understandable but not really legitimate. If we held on to that the game would have never improved. I'm glad the LG system was improved even though I've just completed the latest LG today and I got them all with the previous system.

They could've made the change to the girls added after the patch, but not giving away for free the older girls.

It would have been reasonable and would have solved the issue, it would've been fairer to all players.

[DvDivXXX]

15 hours ago, OmerB said:

They could've made the change to the girls added after the patch, but not giving away for free the older girls.

I don't think you realize how gross and player unfriendly what you're suggesting is. These girls didn't have any means of revival or getting them for players who weren't there or didn't perform well enough in league during their first window of availability until now. With this patch, Kinkoid settled on a system for this, which is exactly the same we already have for CC girls, and arguably the fairest and most flexible there is in the game, as it adapts to every single player's own pace and doesn't require any time-limited revivals. Which is all-around great.

Applying this only for post-patch League Girls would basically mean making all the previous ones forever exclusive to those of us who were there and performed well enough in Leagues to grab them the first time around. Or it would force them (in theory) to make special revivals for these girls despite having set up a system that's much better than revivals and doesn't affect the schedule, which would have been inconvenient to say the least, and unlikely to happen at all had you had your wish.

15 hours ago, OmerB said:

It would have been reasonable and would have solved the issue, it would've been fairer to all players.

Nope. It would just have made you mistakenly feel justified in your misplaced envy for players who came  and will come to the game after you and for whom you should feel sympathy instead because there's no question that they have a whole lot more things to catch up with than you do. And they're not giving anything away for free. Every player will still need to perform in League consistently for months to unlock these girls. Most importantly, you need to realize that making something easier for newer and future players doesn't take anything away from what current and long-time players have.

You're not losing anything. You're just jealous that the next generations will have a better experience than you did back in your day. That's a very bad mentality to have when an objectively good change to the game as a whole is implemented.

[Liliat]

Il y a 15 heures, OmerB a dit :

It would have been reasonable and would have solved the issue, it would've been fairer to all players.

So, should KK take 80% of your PXP, just to make it fair with veterans who had to grind for years to reach max level?

It would only be fair to them. After all, they spent lots of time, resources and energy to get there just from League and Missions PXP.

[Antimon]

Il 13/4/2023 in 19:34 , OmerB ha scritto:

They should have made it from the newer girls on, but not retrospective.

Now every player, even playing quite stupid, can get the league girls...

On top of what DvDivXXX and Liliat already said. this system isn't *that* fast to the point of being unfair. Let's have a look at my situation, for example.

For the time I can dedicate to the game (and my current stats) DIII is a too big bite for my mouth. Therefore, I must aim to DII 16th-30th bracket, which means, in the best case scenario, I complete a girl in 5 weeks. More than a few times (because real life stuff was in the way), with the old system (that gave out 10% more shards) I had to use all the 6 weeks the girl was available to actually get her. So let's say I need 5,5 weeks on average for one girl.

Next league reset I'll complete Triana. It'll be week 5 since her release

I have 2 league girls stucked at ~60 shards (before Sultry mysteries, I had 1 girl more stucked at the same point), so I'll need 2 weeks each (4 in total) in order to get them. We are at week 9 since Triana's release. 1 week left until Kinkoid will release a new league girl.

Now, I have three other league girls for which I have 0 shards. Considering the release of a new one every 10 weeks, I'll finally be on par with league girls schedule in ~38 weeks (35 weeks are the best case scenario). 8/9 months from now. And I am somewhat a "veteran" player, I can place quite confidently (if real life lets me) in the 16th/30th  DII bracket every week, and I already have 7 league girls completed. Now think how worse the situation of a newer playeris. Maybe weaker than me, maybe just  more "casual" in his playstyle than me, and with more league girls half completed (if not with no shards at all) than those I have.

How long do you think they'll take to get on par? Until they won't reach the point of needing 5 weeks to complete a girl (which means that in one 10 weeks time span you are virtually able to get the last girl released + an old one), feat that is basically possible only for those who can place at 16th/30th DII and DII bracket every week (higher DIII brackets needs less time; those who hop back and forth from top 15 in DII and DIII lose 1 week each time), the time they'll need to close their "league girls' gap" will steadily grow bigger and bigger.

 

Edited April 15, 2023 by Antimon

[OmerB]

10 hours ago, Liliat said:

So, should KK take 80% of your PXP, just to make it fair with veterans who had to grind for years to reach max level?

It would only be fair to them. After all, they spent lots of time, resources and energy to get there just from League and Missions PXP.

To continue with the rhetoric questions - If you worked hard to get a girl, spent real time and energy on it, and a month later thet decide to give it for free for all of the players, how would you feel? Will you be thrillee and full of joy? Or will you be pissed withgiving for free something that you worked hard to get? I'm suspecting that you'll be pissed by it and not full of joy.

I'm not saying that the change is overly bad. It is good to put the league girls in stack, and to get shards of them on each week, similar to how PoP and Club champion girls work. I just think that they should have done it for the girls added from the patch forward, and not included the former girls (although I will get a new girl now almost every week for few weeks, since I have several girls missing only 4-12 shards).

I don't have a problem of not getting some exclusive girls, if you knew when they appeared that they will be available for only a specific time. Another option was to make a different way of revivals for them. Now it's just too easy (even if I would profit from it too). Okay, I'm done debating about this matter

Edited April 14, 2023 by OmerB

[DvDivXXX]

1 hour ago, OmerB said:

To continue with the rhetoric questions - If you worked hard to get a girl, spent real time and energy on it, and a month later thet decide to give it for free for all of the players, how would you feel? Will you be thrillee and full of joy?

See, that's just trolling at this point. You're presenting a really extreme and condensed version of the situation with so little nuance as being a strawman, and even that doesn't make your argument look any better, honestly. Yeah, there were plenty of situations where the game changed for the better at a point that didn't coincide at all with my own personal situation at the time. I started the game not even a month after the Anniversary event in which they basically gave away the OG L5 Norou for free through what was then called the Arena (ancestor of Seasons, more or less). I was just about to reach Player level 400 when the patch that gave a massive boost to PxP before level 400 launched. I was just barely starting to be able to compete in D3 when the massive change of reward distribution gutted the unfair advantage veteran players had been enjoying for years, as they were the only ones with a hope in hell to grab a top 4 or a win in D3 back then due to the lack of any viable catchup mechanic at all for newer players (not even by whaling it out). Not only did I not throw a tantrum against any of those situations (and many more I can't remember right now), but I was advocating for a league rebalance years before it happened.

Basically TLD;DR would be "grow up a little, will you?" here. A more formal version of this message would be "please realize that a game is for its entire player base and community to enjoy, not for any one player in particular." Sometimes, you take one for the team. Other times, the stars align perfectly for you. The same can be said from the perspective of any other individual player. The change is great for everybody, whether it makes a few individual players bitter or jealous is irrelevant and it's a good thing that's not what drives game improvements.

1 hour ago, OmerB said:

I'm not saying that the change is overly bad. It is good to put the league girls in stack, and to get shards of them on each week, similar to how PoP and Club champion girls work. I just think that they should have done it for the girls added from the patch forward, and not included the former girls (although I will get a new girl now almost every week for few weeks, since I have several girls missing only 4-12 shards).

Wow. So I'm glad for this change even though I won't benefit from it myself. You're bitter about this change even though you will benefit from it yourself...

You failed to address the points raised by either Liliat, Antimon or myself, too. So yeah... you're not going to convince anyone that your envy is legitimate just because, and you won't listen to reason on the fact that this is just a petty kneejerk reaction that should be entirely beneath you, Omer.

Agree to disagree. Let's leave it at that.

[OmerB]

3 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

See, that's just trolling at this point. You're presenting a really extreme and condensed version of the situation with so little nuance as being a strawman, and even that doesn't make your argument look any better, honestly. Yeah, there were plenty of situations where the game changed for the better at a point that didn't coincide at all with my own personal situation at the time. I started the game not even a month after the Anniversary event in which they basically gave away the OG L5 Norou for free through what was then called the Arena (ancestor of Seasons, more or less). I was just about to reach Player level 400 when the patch that gave a massive boost to PxP before level 400 launched. I was just barely starting to be able to compete in D3 when the massive change of reward distribution gutted the unfair advantage veteran players had been enjoying for years, as they were the only ones with a hope in hell to grab a top 4 or a win in D3 back then due to the lack of any viable catchup mechanic at all for newer players (not even by whaling it out). Not only did I not throw a tantrum against any of those situations (and many more I can't remember right now), but I was advocating for a league rebalance years before it happened.

Basically TLD;DR would be "grow up a little, will you?" here. A more formal version of this message would be "please realize that a game is for its entire player base and community to enjoy, not for any one player in particular." Sometimes, you take one for the team. Other times, the stars align perfectly for you. The same can be said from the perspective of any other individual player. The change is great for everybody, whether it makes a few individual players bitter or jealous is irrelevant and it's a good thing that's not what drives game improvements.

Wow. So I'm glad for this change even though I won't benefit from it myself. You're bitter about this change even though you will benefit from it yourself...

You failed to address the points raised by either Liliat, Antimon or myself, too. So yeah... you're not going to convince anyone that your envy is legitimate just because, and you won't listen to reason on the fact that this is just a petty kneejerk reaction that should be entirely beneath you, Omer.

Agree to disagree. Let's leave it at that.

I just answered Liliat rhetoric questions by rhetoric questions, c'est tout. I'm not bitter or anything about this change (I can also make a psychological analysis of you).

I just thought that they could've done it in a better way. So yes, let's just leave it at that.

Edit: This forum is like a DIY anger management therapy

BTW, if you want to give newer players (like me) an easier way to get old and unavailable girls, here are some more wacky ideas: Put MD girls on SM shops, and put MD and LD girls on MP and on OD 🙂 This would be fun! 😜

Edited April 15, 2023 by OmerB
some more suggestions

[Liliat]

Il y a 11 heures, OmerB a dit :

To continue with the rhetoric questions - If you worked hard to get a girl, spent real time and energy on it, and a month later thet decide to give it for free for all of the players, how would you feel? Will you be thrillee and full of joy? Or will you be pissed withgiving for free something that you worked hard to get? I'm suspecting that you'll be pissed by it and not full of joy.

Of course it's a bit frustrating; but asking to change the situation by punishing new players (which wouldn't change anything for me specifically - I still spent the resources and got the girl early) is just plain selfish.

I had Dolly (First league girl) at 92/100 for months (probably over a year), and was perfectly happy when SM was introduced and she finally showed up in shop. I don't think that the fact that I was happy pissed any of the players who got her 1 year earlier, and nobody asked for SM to be nerfed.

It's the same thing today really. And the fact that I obtained Dolly just 2 months ago doesn't mean I should try hard to prevent other players from getting her as well. Sure, had I known this change was coming, I would probably have waited for another couple of months to get her for free next week; but either way, that's my problem. Removing an option for newer players to get girls they miss won't change anything for me. Again, that would just be selfish and petty.

Not only that, but it could back fire pretty quickly by setting up a precedent. You're new enough to the game that this kind of change benefits you A LOT. If you ask KK to nerf this one just because it doesn't benefit YOU specifically (only everyone else), there's nothing preventing them from nerfing everyone else again in the future (Which may or may not include you/us all).

So, be careful what you wish for.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Liliat

[Rylarth]

Is anyone else unable to highlight and view stats on equipped gear? i was able to check stats on both unequipped and equipped gear before the Latest Patch now i can only check stats on unequipped equipment kinda annoying NGL😥

Edited April 20, 2023 by Rylarth

[Pelinor]

11 hours ago, Rylarth said:

Is anyone else unable to highlight and view stats on equipped gear?

I can do it on the profile page, but not in the market. Not sure why...

[DvDivXXX]

The mouse-over issue has been mentioned elsewhere, though I don't remember a specific Bug Report thread for it. It seems likely that this came from the patch, although I only noticed it today and not yesterday after the patch, but it might just be that I didn't happen to check my equipment or my opponent's yesterday.

For me it doesn't work on profiles either. The only way I've found to check my own equipped gear is to remove it then equip it again (and even then it doesn't last long). I haven't found a way to check another player's items with this bug.

[Der DinX]

This might indeed be an Improvement, especially when the first Daily Goals you get, are "Buy and Sell Stuff from the Market", or in short: "Burn the little money you have."

- "easier" ?   Yes, for sure.
- "funner" ?   (nice Typo btw)  Don't think this will be much noticed.

But it will defenitly help a Beginner, who isn't used to the amount of Money he recieves compared to how much he can spend.

 

What really might be an Improvement, would be to provide a decent Help System inGame, with more Tooltips and real Help Files in the Menue, so one can look up Basic things and get Explanations of those many not selfexplaining things.

The Tutorial (if you dare to call it so) is rather rudimentary and explains nothing, wich you wouldn't find out on your own with a few clicks.

To rely only on the Forum and other Players to explain Basic stuff, provided you find the Forum in the first place and there is someone answering your Question in Time, is something I wouldn't consider to be "funny" at all.

And as I am complaining already, making Tasks a Daily Goal, that can't be accomplished even after multiple Days or even weeks, is a NO-GO!
Not explaining how they work is just icing on the cake.

Hands up who has at least seen once or even Answerd the Question: "What is Awakening and how to do it." 🖐️

Example: I started the Beta of TransPSH 2½ Weeks ago, and one of the first Daily Goals besides the above mentioned, was "Awakening".
I still have it mostly every day, only I have to do it twice now (Rare Version).
And here comes the tricky part, you need 20 Girls on Level 250, right know I have 17 Girls, 14 at Level 250.

Some of the Players that started at the Beginning about one month ago, just bearly reached that Goal.

So you can see the 5. Chest with its Treasures, but you can't get it, cause there are only 10 Tasks for 10 Points and at least one is not to be completed by any chance.

So this kind of Task is defenitly not "funner", and it only shows either the Devs have no Clou on real Gameplay, or they just don't care.

[SamRei]

Is there a plan to give out extra pantheon trys to players now that we don't get them from leagues? I didn't really notice this change, I just stored them away untill a week with good bonuses would allow me to use them with a booster and get some floors done, I mean that booster is total BS combining villains and pantheon, such a stupid combination, but I'm getting offtopic.

So any extra candles in the future?

[bolitho76]

They don't gave any hint until now that they plan something similar.

[Pelinor]

What's the point of commenting? As a player base, we have begged Kinkoid not to do some things, and they did them anyway. So now, after nerfing income opportunities, at every level, KK offers a pittance to the new players who never saw any of the nerfs and still refuse to admit it when they were flat-out wrong! Being a player isn't about the game anymore for me. I stay in it because I like the artwork, not the storyline, not the contests, not the continuing escalation of player competition, the artwork (and chatting with my fellow club mates).

[Guest Tohru - Kinkoid]

Hey peeps!

If you notice something missing from this PN post, that's because I've moved the 2022 PN to this thread here.

Hopefully, this clears it up a bit and makes the more recent info more accessible and easier to provide feedback on. 💗

[Tont2]

excellent update