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Well we still have today and tomorrow (if i understood well), what i'm personally going to do (since thank god i'm at least at lv 460) is:

  1. Wait to see what contest we are going to have tomorrow, ( to try) to gain something out all the books i have (but many people are probably waiting too, so....)
  2. Level up my last Mythic (Valentina) with my (stocked for 1 mythic) red spell book
  3. Get all the 5 star girls i have past the lvl 450
  4. Get the legendary girls that remain past 450 (if i still have books)
  5. Get as many girls i can at least at lvl 300-350 (for the champions, probably starting from the last girls acquired since they are stronger than the ones at the beginning of the list)
  6. Invest something in market refreshes (i'm currently thinking about 2k kobans maybe even way more, i'm not doing math i'll go along with how many girls i want to level up)
  7. Saving a little of the books to have some points in the Next LC (even if this mean that some girls will be blocked T.T)

Lastly (a bit off topic sorry) i would like to thank the ones that talked (constructively and politely) to Rosso, making clear all the problems has this feature and with this making possible a (little) improvement (the situation stay bad, but less bad at least). Another special Thank you to you @zoopokemon, i'm saving every your spreadsheet i see XD

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8 hours ago, DummyAccount said:

Does anyone know how much experience is needed to get a mythic girl from level 450 to 500? Right now I'm using all my books but I want to keep enough of them to get my mythics to 500 after the change. I can only find values for legendary girls on the wiki, it's not updated

Important: bring them to 451.

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(I'm lazy to figure out how to double reply, so am just referencing quotes since I posted yesterday, sorry)

> all my 5-star characters are above level 401 currently and thus will be level 450 come Thursday

@Attirm Did I miss some information or am I misreading what you wrote?  I didn't know any girl would get a boost, I assumed if they are X level now, on Thursday they will be X level.  It reads like you're saying 401 will become 450.

> Get as many girls i can at least at lvl 300-350 (for the champions, probably starting from the last girls acquired since they are stronger than the ones at the beginning of the list)

@Xemnas Do you see a big advantage of raising to "300-350" vs 251?  Obviously you want as many as high as you can but given that 250 is "free", I was thinking 251 myself.  Tho I doubt I have that many books, so probably won't matter, just curious.

PS: @Kenrae going to miss you on forums if you do stop (go into "read only" mode).  You're always so helpful.

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1 hour ago, jpanda said:

Do you see a big advantage of raising to "300-350" vs 251?  Obviously you want as many as high as you can but given that 250 is "free", I was thinking 251 myself.  Tho I doubt I have that many books, so probably won't matter, just curious.

Well i admit i'm not the most strategical person here (i do not consider myself much smart too, honestly XD). My thinking is (very) simple: the many girls i have up, the easy is to get a match in the champions, plus their dmg goes up a bit (and i'm really unlucky with the champions draft). Also is all to save stones later: let's be realistic no one knows the big plan behind all of this (maybe not even KK XD), this is why i want to consider "important" even the other girls (yes even the 1 star ones). 

But, as for you, i doubt too that my stocks are enough even if i'll for sure invest in market refreshes.

In the end is always the same story: i'm a huge pessimist :), so to feel myself comfortable i need to be prepared for all eventualities (plan A,B,C and even D 😂).

(just joking here) Tomorrow they might decide that a 1 star is stronger than a mythic in certain circumstances and i don't want to be in the situation: "nooo all my mythic are at 750, but my 1 star are at lvl 1 and i have to break them too", i would prefer to say "well i have to break them, but at least i have done 2/3 awakening already"

P.s: i'm really sorry about your choice @Kenrae, even though i understand you.  Still i'm sad. I've learned a lot from your posts, and you have also helped me and replied to my (sometimes stupid) questions. For this thank you. But i'll give it a try and try to make you change your mind with a really powerful weapon (specially in the hentai world) (ofc pretend that i'm girl. maybe Crusch Karsten, my avatar).

Ready................................. Petty please please-anime.gif.10fa0faa0173aa7fde6969cdf6e3559e.gif

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1 hour ago, jpanda said:

@Attirm Did I miss some information or am I misreading what you wrote?  I didn't know any girl would get a boost, I assumed if they are X level now, on Thursday they will be X level.  It reads like you're saying 401 will become 450.

They won't automatically become level 450, but their level cap will be so it's just a matter of spending the books to get them there. I'll raise my battle team to level 450 immediately, and then everyone else during Legendary Contests. I had been planning on competing for a Mythic girl next month, but with those plans changed I'm now pouring all those kobons into buying books instead to capitalize on the higher XP cap. 

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1 hour ago, jpanda said:

(I'm lazy to figure out how to double reply, so am just referencing quotes since I posted yesterday, sorry)

> all my 5-star characters are above level 401 currently and thus will be level 450 come Thursday

@Attirm Did I miss some information or am I misreading what you wrote?  I didn't know any girl would get a boost, I assumed if they are X level now, on Thursday they will be X level.  It reads like you're saying 401 will become 450.

> Get as many girls i can at least at lvl 300-350 (for the champions, probably starting from the last girls acquired since they are stronger than the ones at the beginning of the list)

@Xemnas Do you see a big advantage of raising to "300-350" vs 251?  Obviously you want as many as high as you can but given that 250 is "free", I was thinking 251 myself.  Tho I doubt I have that many books, so probably won't matter, just curious.

PS: @Kenrae going to miss you on forums if you do stop (go into "read only" mode).  You're always so helpful.

me too @Kenrae 😢

I honestly don´t care that much about my girls levels.. as long as all my mythics and 5stars are at 451 I´m good.. I won´t be spending kobans on market refills just so that KK decides to change something again next week. I´m honestly pretty chill about it now since I´m only going for top15 finishes since they reduced the league rewards anyways ^^
(obviously not everyone is in my boat)

I´m going to upgrade all of my mythics to lv 500 once I have enough xp and then I´ll see what I´m going to do.. at this point it´s not even worth it anymore to complain about it/ lose precious time.. my biggest hope for gems is that they´ll make the game more chill for me since it´s gotten quite time consuming lately.

I have my hopes  high for Path of Valor.. maybe that´ll actually be a fun feature for everybody :)

 

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Hey guys, thanks, but I haven't said I'll leave the forum ;) . I'll stop playing that much and just follow the story, and maybe do the dailies, intead of being competitive and buying an occasional monthly card. I'm sure I'll keep coming here.

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As for me, taking into account real life matters, the new implementation makes planning girl upgrading (plus the effective upgrading operation) simply too time consuming, meaning that with any probability I will try to upgrade the strongest girls in my harem to the max level I am able (in a few months, desumably, given that, as far as I have understood, high level players at first will need time to stock enough gems to upgrade more their first high level girls, even with the late nerfing of the feature). As for the rest of the girls, when chance arises I will upgrade them to level 250, and then who has been seen has been seen, point. Should in the future I find myself with a debordant quantity of gems I will take more upgrading into consideration, but only if and when my real life schedule allows it. If with this line of behaviour I will be able to mantain a decent progress in the game, then I will keep playing actively, else I will probably adopt a line of behaviour similar to the one stated above by @Kenrae (happy to know that we will se you again on these pages, pal 🙂)

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With the thursday as patchday it will be possible to me to get Level 451, but this will donwgrade my chances in LC. Also it's the only chance I see, that I will be able to get in Top30 or better at D3 and the Koban are very needed....
Let us see, how it work in the long run on live-server.

Nichts wird so heiß gegessen, wie es gekocht wird.  (Nothing will be eaten so hot, like it cooked - literal interpretaiton from german language)

Or in english term: Things are never as bad as they seem

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3 hours ago, Xemnas said:

Well i admit i'm not the most strategical person here (i do not consider myself much smart too, honestly XD). My thinking is (very) simple: the many girls i have up, the easy is to get a match in the champions, plus their dmg goes up a bit (and i'm really unlucky with the champions draft). Also is all to save stones later: let's be realistic no one knows the big plan behind all of this (maybe not even KK XD), this is why i want to consider "important" even the other girls (yes even the 1 star ones). 

But, as for you, i doubt too that my stocks are enough even if i'll for sure invest in market refreshes.

In the end is always the same story: i'm a huge pessimist :), so to feel myself comfortable i need to be prepared for all eventualities (plan A,B,C and even D 😂).

(just joking here) Tomorrow they might decide that a 1 star is stronger than a mythic in certain circumstances and i don't want to be in the situation: "nooo all my mythic are at 750, but my 1 star are at lvl 1 and i have to break them too", i would prefer to say "well i have to break them, but at least i have done 2/3 awakening already"

P.s: i'm really sorry about your choice @Kenrae, even though i understand you.  Still i'm sad. I've learned a lot from your posts, and you have also helped me and replied to my (sometimes stupid) questions. For this thank you. But i'll give it a try and try to make you change your mind with a really powerful weapon (specially in the hentai world) (ofc pretend that i'm girl. maybe Crusch Karsten, my avatar).

Ready................................. Petty please please-anime.gif.10fa0faa0173aa7fde6969cdf6e3559e.gif

In case it helps you or anyone, I guess I'm not a great strategist either because I had a plan like yours previously posted with A, B, C, D, E, etc and I didn't even get thru A 😃

Ah well, my inventory is lighter, if that's KK's secret plan, it worked against me.

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After spending all that stuff, I think my strategy if I were a new account (or on ComixHarem) will be either to save gems and just level high girls (not unlike Dating Tokens) or do a tier structure where I spend more gems on common then rare then epic and so on.  That latter strategy sounds weak but I think it'd keep me sane, otherwise I'll never feel like I can spend gems until I get my girls max lending to the 250 lock.  I'd just (I'll just) have to decide.

It's interesting to even consider because on ComixHarem, I barely have any books even if I wanted to upgrade my girls I can't, so really thinking about a strategy is pointless (I'm not 250 yet, not that it matters=)).

Maybe amusing but after spending all the books in HH, it seems the situation for me was the same, just on HH it was hidden by hoarding.  So, regardless of spending or not, of level or not, I am locked :)  Having no resources feels a little better because then everything is gains as opposed to having a hoard of books that you can't spend.  Which may still happen if the balance is bad; I'll see with everyone else I guess.

Long story long, I appreciate the heads up so I can spend (or choose to).

PPS:

I realized Kenrae's strategy for HH has pretty much been mine on CH the whole time; combined with the fact I probably would not be on the forum were I not playing the game so seriously, I made an assumption (bad assumption).

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44 minutes ago, Kenrae said:

So... we're sure there won't be an update today, right?

The patch notes are up and dated for today

 

 

 

 

 

And say awakenings are coming in after the league ends.

 

44 minutes ago, Kenrae said:

Also, will this change come to CxH too? 🤔data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==

yes

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Final results after (a lot and probably wayyyyy to much clicking, my eyes are tired too XD):

(premise i'm lvl 460) (sorry if i do not give proper numbers but my eyes are tired i cannot even count properly) 789 girls in the harem

  1. All the Mythic girls beyond level 455
  2. All the Legendary 5 stars beyond level 455
  3. All the 5 stars common beyond level 455
  4. More than 50 girls beyond 455
  5. Lots of girls beyond 401
  6. Huge part of the girls beyond 302
  7. 130 girls+/- still to level up (will remain lvl 1)
  8. 2k kobans (more or less) on market refreshes
  9. 200 spell books still in stock (for the level up after the stones and for the LC)
  10. 3M points in the current contest XD

In the end i got more than i imagined, feel bad and good at the same time :)

 

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52 minutes ago, Xemnas said:

3M points in the current contest XD

We had a "give XP to the girls" contest on Nutaku over the weekend. The top 4 were around that 3 million mark. It was very clear from the scores who knew about the incoming change and who did not.

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En 14/11/2021 a las 8:34, gluddukat dijo:

Estoy en el testerver lvl 249. Mi límite es de 250. Para todas las chicas que hayan superado el límite de 200, solo necesito pagar el último límite. Si tienes chicas de nivel inferior, necesitas desbloquear las tapas inferiores.

 

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Hello, how do I see my level limit and what are all the gems good for? You win the physical, submissive, exhibitionist

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I am level 416 with 640 girls.

I have upped my 6 mythics to level 500. I have upped all 5* legendaries to 450 and will "awaken" them and upgrade to level 500 also, as needed re: blessings for the current week - I've only done this for 5^ Michaela so far. 

As for the next stage i.e. getting these top girls to level 550, that will need another 40+ girls at level 500. I was thinking the cheapest way to do this would be to max out + awaken the single star common girls.  But just to get a girl to level 50 will cost me 7359 XP (common) vs 8806 (rare) vs 10 255 vs 11 703 (legendary).

Addendum: I don't understand why we have to "awaken" girls that are less than my level, every 50 levels. And after level 250 it starts costing gems. So I guess slowly taking my 25 x 5* legendaries from 450 to 500 makes more sense.

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3 hours ago, jamanga said:

I was thinking the cheapest way to do this would be to max out + awaken the single star common girls

All common girls cost the same, you might as well start with 5-stars and 3-stars over 1-star girls.

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So one of the considerations that's been bugging me as to how I'm going to handle it is Eccentric gems. With the way drop rates currently are, Eccentric is tried for the most common gem type with Playful, so that means it will be relatively easier to upgrade these girls. The problem is... I have almost no Eccentric girls, and when I look at how many are in the game I suspect most people are going to be in the same boat as me. 

My current five-star collection of eccentric girls consists of three commons (Solveig, Noemy, Samane), one rare (Metal Noemy), one epic (Summer Geekette), and two Legendaries (Sai and Norou). When I look at the list of all eccentric girls in the game, I see that this isn't just bad luck, and I actually have the majority of them. The only ones I'm missing are Alexa and Radka (mythic; like most players I have very few of these), Stacy (Legendary Days, I can't afford to go for them all), and Scorpio (like 99.999% of the playerbase, I have yet to reach pantheon floor 1000). 

This leaves me with a conundrum, what the hell am I actually going to do with all those excess eccentric gems? If the current drop rates are the norm for even the foreseeable future, I am very quickly going to run out of things to spend Eccentric gems on. The 3000 I got from the giveaway were enough to take Metal Noemy, Summer Geekette, Sai, and Norou up to level 550 (my current maximum) and the three commons are up to level 500. But they're just commons, it will hardly take any gems at all to get them to level 550 like the rest.

My first thoughts were to just stockpile the excess and the moment I unlock the level 551 awakening I just awaken all the eccentrics immediately. But when I actually look at the drop rates and how many eccentric gems I will probably have by the time I unlock the 551 awakening, I'll have more than I need to instantly awaken them all. So I definitely need to find some sort of outlet for Eccentric gems. I could also awaken some 1-stars to speed up the process of reaching the level 551 awakening, but again commons are really inexpensive so that won't really do much to divert the gems.

So I'm thinking that Eccentric girls might be the one exception to recruiting new girls. I'm very hesitant to actually pay the tax to bring a new recruit up to the level of all my grandfathered girls, but it looks like I'm going to be swimming in Eccentric gems, so if nothing changes it might be worth it to pick up a five-star legendary or maybe even a mythic if I can afford it. I definitely won't be in a position to go for mythics next month (I blew 1000 Nubons on shop refreshes between the frantic pre-patch scramble to grandfather as many girls as possible, and the post-patch level-up spree) but it may be worth it for those who can to keep an eye out for any eccentrics that show up. Of course, it may be that Kinkoid changes everything so there's always a risk that whatever strategy you commit to will be disrupted. Occupational hazard, I guess?

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I think you should focus on your lack of Blue and Grey gems, rather than your excess of red gems :) Trying to get the new 5*/6* eccentric girls when they come out definitely sounds like a good idea (I wouldn't worry too much about Scorpio though: it's just a matter of time; in a few months most players will have her. Capricorn will be much harder...)

If you really want to spend these red gems, then go for Common 3*. You'll need a lot of them anyway to reach the highest lvl caps (Unless you already own 100 5*/6* girls?); so you might as well use the excess gems on them, and keep the rare gems for L5/M6.

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I got a very good result in Legendary Contests this month (two first place finishes, provided no one snipes me tonight) so I'm actually not doing too badly for Dominatrix and Sensual gems. They're still way too few, but my situation with Exhibitionist and Submissive gems will be much worse. At least Submissive and Sensual don't have that many girls in my harem (just 3 and 4 legendaries respectively) so I can potentially work around that, but Exhibitionist and Dominatrix gems will definitely be bottlenecks and I'll have to be careful about which girls to prioritize. Doesn't help that one of my two mythics is Dominatrix (was bad enough that they took away Royal Housemaid's hair color, now she uses one of the lowest drop rate gems; girl can't get a break)

My current 5-star harem (not counting Izumi, who isn't grandfathered) consists of 2 mythics, 42 legendaries, 2 epics, 9 rares, and 22 commons. That means I won't need to awaken any 3 stars until I'm ready to break the level 651 barrier, which is a long ways in the future. Long enough that I expect the drop rates to change before I even get close. The Eccentric problem is imminent, as I've already fully-upgraded all my legendary, epic, and rare eccentrics to my current maximum so I have nothing more to spend them on. If the current trajectory holds up I'll have 2500 Eccentric gems stockpiled by the end of December, and I don't expect to even be breaking the 551 barrier by then. 

As for Scorpio, the point is that she's not grandfathered so it will be quite an investment to pay for her catch-up awakenings. I'm well aware that I will get her eventually (at my current pace it will take me about 8 weeks, so mid-January) so I'll have the gems available to awaken her by then. Whether it's a good idea or not is a more difficult question to answer.

Edit: and the moment I say that Exhibitionist and Submissive gems will be a problem, PoP dumps 50 of each on my lap. Maybe I just had a bad luck so far and they're more common than I thought? Will need to track their drop rates a little more closely with a better sample size to know for sure.

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