Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted October 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, DvDivXXX said: I'm honestly kind of waiting for them to release the Hero's Journey thing with additional skill trees for your hero; I don't think I'll break through with just good Blessings and a lot of persistence.... no one has beaten the final boss yet. So I strongly suspect this wasn't designed to be beatable with the power level we currently have available. I think it is currently possible to beat temple 2000. We've just never had anything close to the max blessings. Never seen anyone w/ a 220k, 250k, or 293k team, and those are possible... technically. I've been thinking about ranking girls based on attributes, and which ones are the best to collect. Like these groups of mythic girls w/ shared blessings, which could become OP. Knowing that a 293,882 total power team is possible w/ 7x blue eyed 96% blessed M6s, @ lvl 750, let's plug that into this atk formula, w/ my player lvl 473 stats, 6 mono gear, 3 cords, and a headband. On 8/9/2022 at 1:42 AM, Ravi-Sama said: Atk=((Primary Stat-Club Bonus)*Gin+Club Bonus+(1/4 Girl Power))*Dom*Element*Cord*AME*Headband My Max Pantheon Atk = 227884.6 Atk = ((55187-5017)*1+5017+((1/4)*293882))*1.09*1*1.3*1*1.25 227884.6 Atk = (55187+(293882/4))*1.09*1.3*1.25 Blessings: Mythic +40% & Blue Eyes +40% Primary Stat w/ 6 mono gear @ Lvl 473: 55,187 Charm Club Bonus (+10%): 5017 Max Total Power: 293882 = 7x blue eyed 96% blessed M6s, @ lvl 750. Max Base Sum of each girl = 28.56 * 1.96 = 55.97 Dominatrix Passive w/ 2 Doms = 1.09 No elemental counter bonus, b/c pantheon temple walls are balanced. 3 Cordyceps = 1.3 AME: not in Pantheon Headband: 1.25 I think I could get very far in the pantheon w/ ~228k Atk & a 293k team, and I'm not lvl 500. I have lower stats & weaker gear. All I can do is wait for better blessings, collect the girls w/ that blessing potential, max them out, and slowly max out my player level. If I had a 200k+ team, I'd attempt breaking the temple 1800 wall. FinderKeeper did it w/ just a 177k team, but again, I'm not at lvl 500 yet. I realize those particular maxed blessings (Mythic +40% & Blue Eyes +40%) are unlikely, but even the weakest variation of them (double 20%), would create a 215.9k total power team @ lvl 750. Edited October 4, 2022 by Ravi-Sama Fixed error w/ Primary Stat being x10 club bonus, instead of x11. Max atk rose from 218k to 228k. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted October 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2022 Sure, and this is all pretty impressive, Ravi. But, realistically, even if maybe one of these weeks we get exactly 7 maximum double-blessed Mythics and one or more of the precious few of us even close to the final Wall happen(s) to have all 7 of them and enough tries to barely succeed... Well, that's still unbeatable in the normal sense (as in, not literally and absolutely without any possible exception, but just 99% of the time for 99% of players ^^). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.007 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Stuck on 1100, a really huge leap in power. to be fair got past 1000 with boosters and needed RNG in my favor to get from there to 1100. I've only recently broken through the Awakening wall for girls level 550 so here's hoping that progress will happen soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmerB Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) On 10/10/2022 at 12:30 AM, Mr.007 said: Stuck on 1100, a really huge leap in power. to be fair got past 1000 with boosters and needed RNG in my favor to get from there to 1100. I've only recently broken through the Awakening wall for girls level 550 so here's hoping that progress will happen soon. Let me tell you this - My current deck of 7 5* level 700 legendaries (140k power), with MC level of 437, isn't close to beat level 1200 of the Pantheon without boosters, so don't hurry. You have a long way to go. I might have a small chance with the next blessings, will see. Edition: With the new blessings (20% Legendary and 25% Dolphin), two ginseng, 1 chlorella, and 4 monochrome equipment, I managed to get... 0.39% to beat level 1200 😞 I might try with different boosters combination, but I'm not holding my breath. Edited October 14, 2022 by OmerB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGoog Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 So I know I said I would quit, but that didn’t fully happen. With the current blessings I was able to do this on Tuesday: And here is the team and stats that I had, shown on the next fight after 1500: The screen shots are from my phone where I ended up having to do this, away from my computer where I have the script installed. My own estimate was that my single fight win probability was 1.57%, and I didn’t get a chance to check what probability the script would have said. My 1.57% estimate is actually a slight underestimate because it does not account for the possibility of winning despite a critical hit form the opponent, which is funny because that is exactly how the winning fight went- the opponent had one crit hit and I had three. I had 36 Pantheon “worships” going into the fight; the global probability for one win out of those 36 fights at a 1.57% single fight win probability was 43.3%. The winning fight was on my 30th attempt, so I was slightly lucky. For this fight at least, having green girls on the team earned me more HP than blue and that made a difference. That is because with blue there is no healing for the first round and effectively no healing on the last round of a Pantheon fight, since it does not help you survive another round. The Pantheon wall fights are short fights, so missing 2 rounds means missing out on a lot. I know this game (HH overall) is not important but I just want to keep playing it, at least for now. This is what I have heard from other people what an addiction is like- you don’t HAVE to do the thing, you just always want to do it. Here’s to hoping I can keep the other parts of my life intact while doing it. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted October 14, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 11:54 PM, FGoog said: The screen shots are from my phone where I ended up having to do this, away from my computer where I have the script installed. On 8/17/2022 at 1:51 PM, Kenrae said: If you are on Android you can try Firefox Nightly or Kiwi Browser, you can install the script there. Congratz on breaking the temple 1500 wall! Apparently, there's a mobile browser called Kiwi, where you can install tampermonkey and the HH++ script, so you won't have to do guesswork about pantheon % win odds on your phone. I'm impressed you can estimate your odds even a little. Thanks for the exhibitionist 🟢 vs sensual 🔵 comparison in the pantheon. Having a chance to survive more rounds more often does give an edge to green. Yeah, I knew you didn't quit, when I saw you in leagues a month ago. Edited October 15, 2022 by Ravi-Sama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGoog Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 7:32 AM, Ravi-Sama said: Congratz on breaking the temple 1500 wall! Apparently, there's a mobile browser called Kiwi, where you can install tampermonkey and the HH++ script, so you won't have to do guesswork about pantheon % win odds on your phone. I'm impressed you can estimate your odds even a little. Thanks for the exhibitionist 🟢 vs sensual 🔵 comparison in the pantheon. Having a chance to survive more rounds more often does give an edge to green. Yeah, I knew you didn't quit, when I saw you in leagues a month ago. Thanks 😀 And definitely thanks for the Kiwi browser suggestion. I will check that out; that should be a big help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sban Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 This week I have a win chance of 0.3% with 3x cordyceps equipped, but no headband. Should I get the headband and try it? What's my expected win chance with the headband? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted October 17, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sban said: This week I have a win chance of 0.3% with 3x cordyceps equipped, but no headband. Should I get the headband and try it? What's my expected win chance with the headband? Do it. Use 6 mono gear. Your atk should rise 25% w/ a headband. Which temple wall? How much total power do you have? How much temple energy have you saved up for the attempt? How much did the the win % change w/ the headband? Next week's blessings have more potential than this week, but it depends on if you have those girls maxed or not, so check HH: Girl Data, to see if you'll have better chances later. Personally, I'd get the headband, and give it a shot. Can't really give advice beyond that, b/c you weren't specific. Edited October 17, 2022 by Ravi-Sama 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sban Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 19.76% win chance with headband, won the first fight and got the lvl 1500 girl. My team's total power is 171'881.5 and I had 68 fights, so now I am at level 1568. I only had 4 mono gears since the new market makes it extremely difficult for me to correctly sell only the items I want to sell, sometimes the market selects the wrong items to sell. I accidentally sold my old set of mono gear and had to replace it by playing Great x10 pachinko a lot. Thank you for the advice. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incubys Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I've got some decent blessings this week and next, but I've already got R.H.M. so I', gonna be greedy and wait til end Oct / Start Nov and try to break 1,500 just before next MD when I should have about 140 worship saved up. You do get combativity from 1,501 don't you ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted October 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Incubys said: I've got some decent blessings this week and next, but I've already got R.H.M. so I', gonna be greedy and wait til end Oct / Start Nov and try to break 1,500 just before next MD when I should have about 140 worship saved up. You do get combativity from 1,501 don't you ? You get 3 CP from every floor above 1500, except the "tenth temple bosses." Temples 1501-1509, then 1511-1519, and 1521-1529, etc. each drop 27 CP. There's 270 CP total available between temple 1501-1599, and so on. 1350 total CP between floors 1501-1999. When I jumped from temple 1500-1700 for Bright Agate, I was able to use 666 free CP, and just needed to buy 140 CP. It wasn't "free," b/c I paid for 2 headbands, and worship refills, but I had fun, and it was still cheaper than buying CP directly. Edited October 18, 2022 by Ravi-Sama 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madahmed Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Finally i passed level 1100 this week blessing on nutaku (palyful 35% - doggie 25%) gave me a huge boost for many of my girls . also i awakened and xp some mythic and L5 girls to 650. so i had a pretty stronger team than usual. my chances were 12.56% and i had 26 tries . i passed the level on the 7th try. i used 3 cordyceps for the occasion. my team is 650 except Ibalee and bianca. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmerB Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I'm contemplating whether I should use Headband to pass level 1200. It depends, what do I get for every win at levels 1201-1299? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, OmerB said: I'm contemplating whether I should use Headband to pass level 1200. It depends, what do I get for every win at levels 1201-1299? Combativity I think? It should be the same you got from before you hit 1200, as it is in the 1000-1500 tier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted October 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, OmerB said: I'm contemplating whether I should use Headband to pass level 1200. It depends, what do I get for every win at levels 1201-1299? 3 hours ago, EpicBacon said: Combativity I think? It should be the same you got from before you hit 1200, as it is in the 1000-1500 tier. Temples 1200-1300 don't reward CP. You only get CP above 1500. I did use a headband to beat temple 1200, back in February (2/10/2022). I used 3 cords, 6 mono gear, lvl 600-650 girls, w/ 130k TP. Considering how weak my team was, it can probably be beaten w/ a stronger team w/o a headband. Edited October 19, 2022 by Ravi-Sama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said: Temples 1200-1300 don't reward CP. You only get CP above 1500. I did use a headband to beat it, back in February (2/10/2022). I used 3 cords, 6 mono gear, & 7 girls at lvl 600-650, w/ 130k TP. Considering how weak my team was, it can probably be beaten w/ a stronger team, and no headband. 001-500 were affection items? 500-1000 were energy? 1000-1500 = ? 1500-2000 combativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted October 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, EpicBacon said: 1000-1500 = ? I looked for old screenshots, but I only took them at the walls. Don't really know the rewards in that section, but it's not CP. The real reward is moving up in the pantheon to get better rewards later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Il y a 7 heures, Ravi-Sama a dit : I did use a headband to beat temple 1200, back in February (2/10/2022). I used 3 cords, 6 mono gear, lvl 600-650 girls, w/ 130k TP. Considering how weak my team was, it can probably be beaten w/ a stronger team w/o a headband. Definitely. I went all the way to 1499 without a headband, and my strongest team was at 180k TP for 1400 (player level < 450 at the time). Usually 3-4 Mono and 2x or 3x Cordy. Still waiting for an excellent blessing (200k+) to see if I can beat 1500 without a headband. Il y a 6 heures, EpicBacon a dit : 1000-1500 = ? -500 Edited October 19, 2022 by Liliat 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Liliat said: Definitely. I went all the way to 1499 without a headband, and my strongest team was at 180k TP for 1400 (player level < 450 at the time). Usually 3-4 Mono and 2x or 3x Cordy. Still waiting for an excellent blessing (200k+) to see if I can beat 1500 without a headband. -500 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, EpicBacon said: I meant to quote the other quote, and I don't know how to change that, but I think my point got thru I wholeheartedly like what you did tho, It's something I would have done, and I can appreciate that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmerB Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 14 hours ago, OmerB said: I'm contemplating whether I should use Headband to pass level 1200. It depends, what do I get for every win at levels 1201-1299? I put the headband, got to 25%, and beat it with the first attempt and I'm getting gifts from 1201-1299. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_i Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 hours ago, EpicBacon said: 1000-1500 = ? Reward is books and gifts. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Well, they finally got me to buy a damn headband, better to use one headband then constantly refill, and 1 headband = 2 refills. 2.44 without headband to 28.56 with 1st attempt win. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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