[ 20-Jul-22 ] Golden Anniversary - Discussion

[garadron]

1 minute ago, DvDivXXX said:

You've played Bianca's MD? Fully? If so, you've played way more villain fights than I did since the SE started. I did a few refills to wrap up the CE girls, but I didn't go for MD.

I guess the gap seems a bit big, in that case. If you win most of your season and league fights, then you should have more Xtals than me with the hundreds of fights from MD.

Are you sure you haven't missed the 1k Xtals free bundle or something like that?

I'm pretty sure I got that 1k because I remember claiming multiple rewards from the path after I got it. For Bianca I have 29 refills recorded so that'd be 580 extra combativity. I lost combativity regen between the end of PoA and start of MD because I was holding that. Now you made me wonder even more where did I miss all those crystals

I'm on Nutaku but I don't think that would make any difference? We also got the 1k crystals accidental sorry gift mistake and are getting 10 crystals since then in the chests.

[DuDeLoK]

aside from not missing daily crystals gain from all sources. mb u have difference with some kisses that u get from montly card/champion tier5 fights. but thats not a big amount of crystals

[DvDivXXX]

I don't have a monthly card or a season pass (and I imagine neither does Garadron, or that would make the gap between us even weirder). I got a couple of x10 Kisses from Champions, but yeah that's 40 Xtals, not 800. I even had a few losses in Season.

I don't know, man. ^^ Since you did get the "get 1,000 now, give us back 900 later" free bundle as well...  All I can say is I think your score seems lower than what the average for dedicated F2P should be about now. I'm not even sure mine is a lot above average (if at all). But you'd need to go back a few pages in this thread to check detailed predictions by our local maths experts.

Ah, there was the 3-day trial for monthly cards promotional campaign earlier on. I got a golden card for 3 days. If you got no card or just a silver one instead, that could explain some of the gap.

Oh, just in case: did you claim the "Free" SE card? Because I did (since it only gives Xtals directly and nothing else, it doesn't really matter when you take it unless you're expecting to be away for a few days, in which case it's best to claim it later on, but I'm here everyday so I just picked it up right away). If you haven't picked it up yet, that could explain a lot.

[garadron]

I have a golden card since a couple of months so yeah, that's even more crystals from free kisses there that make it weird. Honestly the size of this gap feels as if I forgot and didn't use completely 1 source of crystals for the event but I'm getting what I can from all 4 listed sources on the event page: villains, league, season and chests from daily goals.

I guess it will remain a mystery, thanks for trying to figure it out with me though, appreciated!

Currently at 5819 after I spent everything past reset and from what I've tried calculating I should be able to get Harri if I take the medium card which doesn't sound that bad - L5 for 330 nubans. I started all these calculations hoping that I could get Hari, Lyka and Lexie from LD with both cards but I guess I'd have to spend so much more that it's hardly worth it

[bolitho76]

To increase the mystery: I go for Bunna, had Titania, go for Bianca, no silver/gold/platinum card, did KC with rewards from Season and PoV, no combativity and Kisses from actual Season/PoV used, but had mostly complete the rewards from last Season and PoV to spend for crystals and had yesterday only ca. 70 crystal more than DvDivXXX.

[HentaiGuru]

Deleted.

I was totally misguided. There are blessings that affects all stats - even in unclamed girls tooltips.

Edited August 10, 2022 by HentaiGuru

[DvDivXXX]

Actually, I had a brain fart and forgot this event started as early as July 20th. So my pretty bad run on Bunna's 2nd MDR (close to 800 fights) counted for Xtals. I already had Titania too, so that's about it, but it still at least partially explains why I'm ahead of Garadron.

[Incubys]

Currently on 9,467 points, have purchased both koban cards. Using everything I gain (re-gen / cards) I expect to get to 12,839 - 661 points short. Thankfully I have a stash of Kisses so should make it to Lyka ....

[Antimon]

One thing this anniversary special event did, was putting us (me, at least) in a mind-set of "let's hope it doesn't go too well with this other event combativity refills".... And I hate it! Thanks Kiknkoid, you definitely didn't have to 😄 

That said, today again 10vs100 crystals free bundles, so we are now at 1160 crystals in HH/GH vs 800 crystals in CxH/PsH, with the next free bundles with crystals in them expected on August 14

[DvDivXXX]

Well, it's safe to assume that there will be a total of 10 nerfed free bundles with 90 Xtals less than originally planned; taking away all 900 of the extra Xtals we got from the "1k Xtals" bundle. Or at least, as many as they can shove up to 10.

[Ravi-Sama]

On 8/10/2022 at 8:37 AM, garadron said:

I lost combativity regen between the end of PoA and start of MD because I was holding that. Now you made me wonder even more where did I miss all those crystals

This is why I haven't been storing CP or Kisses for the past 3 weeks.  The time period between the PoA to the MD is ~3-4 days.  That's 144-192 Xtals lost from CP regen, (assuming you stored the 6 CP from daily goals).  If you've done that previously a few times, that could easily cost up to 800 Xtals.

Personally, I had 6130 Xtals before buying the 6k kos cards (just the free card).  I'm a little ahead, b/c I used 711 CP for Bunna, 191 CP for Titania, and 167 CP for Bianca.  738 CP was bought among the 3 of them.

I bought the 6k kos cards today, about ~ an hour before the KC began, so I wouldn't waste much kiss regen.  Also, so I could hustle, to use the 330 CP gained, for Lexie (LD), while CbC day 3 was active.  I took 1st place 😁.  Then, I used my 276 kisses on the KC.  It took 191 kisses to get Alt. Plum.  I'm currently stuck at 98% affection for Lexie, after using 483 CP, for 47 drops, a 9.73% drop rate.  It'll take 1 to 2 drops more at most, and I have 2.5 days left to make it happen.

I'm kind of disappointed that Norou didn't show up in the LD for the Anniversary.  If she did, I'd have a great reason to burn more CP, for Xtals.  I was warned that the LD has unpredictable L5 revivals.  Seems like OD on the 14th, is the next opportunity for that.  I don't usually buy CP on OD, but I'll make an exception if it results in recruiting Lyka.  One less exclusive girl to pine after.

Anyway, I have 10k Xtals atm.  I used an obscene amount of league refills, so that might've temporarily inflated it, but the day's not over.  There's still some more CP/kiss regen to use, and league battles to fight.  I'm currently 3412 Xtals short from recruiting Lyka.

I should have ~2737 Xtals left to collect between the 12th-19th (8 more days):

• Free Card: 120 Xtals (15 per day)
• Daily Goals: 208 Xtals (26 per day)
• Leagues: 329 Xtals (41 per day)
• Kiss Regen: 384 Xtals (48 per day)
• Medium Card: 408 Xtals (51 per day)
• CP Regen: 432 Xtals (54 per day)
• Big Card: 816 Xtals (102 per day)
• Daily Login: 15 Xtals (5 CP & 5 kisses)
• GA Rewards: 6 Xtals (3 kisses)
• Daily Gifts: 20 Xtals (instead of 200)

(15+26+41+48+51+54+102) * 8 = (337 Xtals per day) * 8 days = 2696 Xtals
2696 + 15 + 6 + 20 = 2737 Xtals left to gain in 8 days

3412 - 2737 = 675 Xtals short from recruiting Lyka by Aug. 19th (the last day). 

675 Xtals ~ CP, that's about the amount of CP it takes to recruit a Mythic girl.  If I had fully pursued Elder Magus Bianca, I'd be closer to the 13.5k Xtal goal.  I've made decent progress in spite of that, b/c I originally calculated that the free + medium + big cards, only granted ~11.7k Xtals, 1741 short of 13.5k, but now I just need ~675 more.  I'll try to figure out how to do it in the remaining week.  I could always try to brute force the Pantheon's temple 1700 wall, for extra CP (I have 113 worship stored).  I don't regret buying the 6k kos cards.  I already got Anniversary Hari (GA), Alt. Plum (KC), 98% of Lexie (LD), and possibly Lyka (GA) later, so I think it's worth it (2-3 L5s & a KC girl).  If I converted 5960 kos to CP, I'd only get ~552 CP, but those cards are worth 4743 Xtals total, in the long run.

Edited August 12, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[DvDivXXX]

Lexie is playing really hard to get with me too (I'm at 97% in around 500 fights). So I'm glad the other LD girl is SL's billionth revival rather than one I'm missing. In two days of daily regen, I'm hopeful she won't require more kobans, though. ^^

There was never any doubt for Plum since ~200 Kisses basically guarantee completing a KC, and I received much more than that (even though with that quick and that high of a jump in Season tiers, I've had a few defeats, and my opponents are getting tougher now that I'm past the main reward track).

After purchasing both koban cards, making a couple of (x50) refills for LD, and with all my relevant bars currently empty, I'm here:

Fingers crossed, but I seem to be on track with the predictions for reaching Lupa's Mom.

[bolitho76]

Big Card with 1840 crystals, 230 combativity and 138 not buyed yet. Perhaps before refresh, perhaps after.

[Methos2]

6 hours ago, Ravi-Sama said:

This is why I haven't been storing CP or Kisses for the past 3 weeks.  The time period between the PoA to the MD is ~3-4 days.  That's 144-192 Xtals lost from CP regen, (assuming you stored the 6 CP from daily goals).  If you've done that previously a few times, that could easily cost up to 800 Xtals.

I did the opposite. I think it will work out in my case. It was determined early on here that Hari won't be obtainable without the event card. I couldn't afford the cards without sacrificing MD, PoV, or PoA bonus path and I didn't want to do any of that. I stored CP since PoA ended for MD to get my bi-monthly mythic girl. I needed to earn more kobans to get the cards so I aimed to get it from league. I used AM boosters that I have been saving to go for top 4. I didn't want to waste it on Seasons and I couldn't use refills. So I stored all the kisses to KC too. As a result, I finally placed in D3 top 4. I got 2nd and 3rd in the last two leagues.  That gave me extra 4k kobans to spend. Now I can buy the 2 cards and business as usual for next PoA and PoV. By my calculation, I should have over 10500 crystals at the end conservatively. That's more than enough to get Hari. And the kisses from the cards will help me recovering from lost progress in Seasons. Lyka was never on my radar. I would be happy to get to the 4-orbs at 11250. So in my specific case, I gained a lot more by storing CP and kisses.

[Kojot]

In moments like these, I wish I was more active on forum. I just noticed there are some event cards to buy and one Free Card that gives daily 15 crystals. Will it be a waste if I claim the Free Card now that event almost ended? Do we have any information whether the card claimed at the end extends to the next event?

[DvDivXXX]

Hey Kojot! 😃 Long time no see indeed (any cool fan art coming up?)

2 minutes ago, Kojot said:

Will it be a waste if I claim the Free Card now that event almost ended?

Not at all, even if you claim it on the very last day, you'll get the full amount for all 31 days retroactively. Same for the other cards too.

2 minutes ago, Kojot said:

Do we have any information whether the card claimed at the end extends to the next event?

We don't, technically. Knowing all we do know about Kinkoid's policies and history, it's so unlikely as to be 99% sure that it's a hard NOPE. Nothing ever extended from one event to another except for girl shards, and I most definitely don't see it changing all of a sudden for the worst and greediest event design in the history of the game, no less. So don't count on it.

[Kojot]

1 minute ago, DvDivXXX said:

Hey Kojot! 😃 Long time no see indeed (any cool fan art coming up?)

Hi DvDivXXX! Nothing HentaiHeroes-related at the moment but I have lots of new general fanarts on my Twitter 😏

5 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said:

Not at all, even if you claim it on the very last day, you'll get the full amount for all 31 days retroactively. Same for the other cards too.

We don't, technically. Knowing all we do know about Kinkoid's policies and history, it's so unlikely as to be 99% sure that it's a hard NOPE. Nothing ever extended from one event to another except for girl shards, and I most definitely don't see it changing all of a sudden for the worst and greediest event design in the history of the game, no less. So don't count on it.

Thanks 💛 I'm on my way to claim the card then!

[DvDivXXX]

Note to self (and possibly others in the same situation): now that I get 15 PvE fights and 9 Kisses instantly at reset time, I need to make sure to empty those bars before that!

[Ravi-Sama]

20 hours ago, Methos2 said:

without sacrificing MD, PoV, or PoA bonus path and I didn't want to do any of that. I stored CP since PoA ended for MD to get my bi-monthly mythic girl... I stored all the kisses to KC too. As a result, I finally placed in D3 top 4. I got 2nd and 3rd in the last two leagues.  business as usual for next PoA and PoV... I should have over 10500 crystals at the end conservatively. That's more than enough to get Hari... Lyka was never on my radar. I would be happy to get to the 4-orbs at 11250. So in my specific case, I gained a lot more by storing CP and kisses.

• MDR: 711 CP for Bunna, (543 bought, 57 free), for 93 shards.
• 2nd MDR: 191 CP spent on Druiada Titania, (80 bought, 111 free), for 22 shards.
• MD: 167 CP spent on Elder Magus Bianca, (4 bought, 163 free), for 22 shards, b/c I only had 6k kos & 10 SP.
• PoA/PoV:  I always skip the premium PoA, & PoV, they're just L3 girls. (10.8k kos saved)
• KC: I didn't save kisses for the KC, but got Alt. Plum anyway, w/ the cards (it took 191 kisses, but I spent 276 total). 
• Leagues: I haven't reached DIII top 4 yet, so didn't see that as an option.  My avg DIII rank for the past 11 weeks, is 12.5.  Best rank was 6th, twice.
• LD:  I got Lexie effortlessly w/ the 6k kos cards.  Waiting for the LD/KC is probably the best time to buy them.  They don't give enough CP for the MD, and you don't need kisses for that.  They're perfect for the LD/KC.  It took me 518 CP (330 from the Cards & 188 CP Regen) to get her.
• GA:  I already got Rabbi and Hari.  Have 10.3k Xtals atm.  I forgot about the Event-4-Games-Orb, until today.  That's possible for any F2P to get, w/ the 6k kos cards, if they didn't store CP/kisses.  I'm going for Lyka b/c I can, and I'm not interested in getting Golden Lupa from her MDR.  I'll just spend 1 SP on her, like I did w/ Bianca.

If I were in your shoes, and reached the top 4 in leagues twice, I would've skipped the PoA/PoV.  Probably recruited Bianca, like you did (600-800 more Xtals).  Used all of my CP/Kisses, so I'd have more than enough Xtals for Lyka (~11.1k Xtals by now), w/ 10.8k kos in the bank for later.  Lyka wasn't on my radar either, b/c 13.5k Xtals isn't possible, w/o spending more than the Free + Medium + Big cards.  Later realized, that buying CP for the MDRs, MD, LD, and OD, might bridge the 1.7k Xtal gap, to get her.  I did buy 738 CP for a few mythic girls: 654 CP for Bunna, 80 CP for Titania, and 4 CP for Bianca.  That's something I would've done anyway.

This is my Xtal history, and what I expect to get by the end (19th).  You can see the 1015 Xtal gift on 7/24, and that I bought the 6k kos cards on 8/11.  I filled in some data gaps, w/ expected daily Xtal profits.  I also took into account that I'm 154 fights ahead in leagues.  I included L5s & M6s that appeared, to help see what might've influenced my Xtal gains.  Looks like I'll end up 834 Xtals short from getting Lyka.  I'll check my progress again during Orgy Days, to see if it's worth spending more kobans buying CP or not.

Edited August 13, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[Joker555]

You guys are flexing your 10k+ anniversary crystals meanwhile I was worried about getting enough to get Hari by the end and wanted to see if someone was in similar situation to me(5922) and was planning to buy event cards to kill 2 birds(girls) with 2 stones(event cards) 😄 to have better chances with Hari and getting Lexie
Never understood how KC is supposed to work because you just don't get enough fights without refills, but on the other hand it explains it very well, and buying event cards should help
I will buy cards regardless because price difference is not that big, and maybe orgy days will have something additional to spend CP too
And on top of that might even get (not useful) KC girl

CxH situation is bit more sad, only have 5073 crystals there, and 2 out of the 4 girls are not even 5 stars, so I'm not sure what's the point in that

UPD: jumped to 8293 crystals thanks to big card, and already got close to getting Lexie, so small one will have to wait. Hari is way closer than I thought as well

Edited August 12, 2022 by Joker555

[Ravi-Sama]

45 minutes ago, Joker555 said:

Never understood how KC is supposed to work because you just don't get enough fights without refills, but on the other hand it explains it very well, and buying event cards should help
I will buy cards regardless because price difference is not that big...
And on top of that might even get (not useful) KC girl

If you get the 6k kos cards, you'll definitely get the LD/KC girls.  It'll give you 216 kisses & 360 CP today.  You need ~200 kisses for Alt. Plum (50% seasons drop rate), & 500 CP for Lexie (10% villains drop rate).  I got them already, so I know.  It took me 191 kisses, and 518 CP.  There's enough regen in 1.5 days to help you get Lexie (~78).  You'd have ~440 CP.  I don't know your progress on her, but you don't need SP.  216 kisses & 360 CP are worth ~8.5k kos total btw.  Plus, you'll get Golden Hari too, so the 6k kos cards are worth it imo.

Glad I don't play CxH.

Edited August 12, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[Joker555]

17 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said:

If you get the 6k kos cards, you'll definitely get the LD/KC girls.  It'll give you 216 kisses & 360 CP today.  You need ~200 kisses for Alt. Plum (50% seasons drop rate), & 500 CP for Lexie (10% villains drop rate).  I got them already, so I know.  It took me 191 kisses, and 518 CP.  There's enough regen in 1.5 days to help you get Lexie (~78).  You'd have ~440 CP.  I don't know your progress on her, but you don't need SP.

Glad I don't play CxH.

Nope, only got to 80 shards total with Alt. Plum, had ~20 at the beginning 😅
Lost around 15-20 matches out of 200, maybe more, so my team isn't as good as I thought it was, or I'm just not lucky with these drops
Got Lexie without problems tho.
Probably for the best, I really don't like how they funnel Hentai Clicker art into this game, but I understand that they are just trying to get some investment back

Forgot that I still had 10 league fights left. Somehow I'm now at 89 shards, so might get her in the morning

Edited August 12, 2022 by Joker555

[Ravi-Sama]

8 minutes ago, Joker555 said:

Somehow I'm now at 89 shards, so might get her in the morning

Yeah, good luck.  Leagues does have a 10% drop rate, but not as reliable as Season's 50%.  You could get 2 drops from leagues, and 6 from seasons in the time remaining.

[DvDivXXX]

1 hour ago, Joker555 said:

You guys are flexing your 10k+ anniversary crystals

1 hour ago, Joker555 said:

wanted to see if someone was in similar situation to me(5922) and was planning to buy event cards to kill 2 birds(girls) with 2 stones(event cards) 😄data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==

1 hour ago, Joker555 said:

UPD: jumped to 8293 crystals thanks to big card

Well, who's flexing now? ^^

15 minutes ago, Joker555 said:

Nope, only got to 80 shards total with Alt. Plum, had ~20 at the beginning 😅
Lost around 15-20 matches out of 200, maybe more, so my team isn't as good as I thought it was, or I'm just not lucky with these drops

Okay, to be clearer you need ~200 WINS in Season fights to get the KC girl. So if you've only won ~160, it's perfectly normal and not a bad run to be at 80 shards. There's less variance in that part of KC than anywhere else in the game. It's a literal coin flip for each win whether you get a shard or not, so it evens out towards 50% overtime.

Then again, it does say Joker right in your nickname, so... ^^

[Joker555]

8 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said:

Okay, to be clearer you need ~200 WINS in Season fights to get the KC girl. So if you've only won ~160, it's perfectly normal and not a bad run to be at 80 shards. There's less variance in that part of KC than anywhere else in the game. It's a literal coin flip for each win whether you get a shard or not, so it evens out towards 50% overtime.

Then again, it does say Joker right in your nickname, so... ^^

I know, Ravi was more confident than I was that I was going to get her from 200 kisses, I was expecting to get unlucky\lose a lot 😅
Still I had 20 shards before claiming kisses, so I only got 60 shards from those ~160-180 wins(even if it was in this range), a bit below average. Also really weird that I got 9 shards from 10 league wins, if it really is 10% drop rate. All of it sounds like something is not right, or I was incapable of seeing that I had 89 and not 80 shards before doing league fights 🤨

After doing some small calculations ( 8293(shards after all said and done)-5922(shards before)-1920(shards from pack)-240(shards from cp) )/2= 105.5, so I probably won ~105 fights and now everything checks out in a way that looks like I was more on a lucky side and spaced out/underestimated how many times I've lost 🙃
Doesn't explain 9 shards from 10 league fights, but oh well