Thoughts on Alt. Etoile

[Yamiray]

If your not past World 15 Quest 15 this contains spoilers.

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So Alt. Etoile has a Description saying she is the older sister of Estelle's but her full name is Etoile Opaille and the Estelle she should be connected to from the time line would be Estelle Shuga. Estelle Opaille is the one that can back with the hero to the Haremverse. so that would kind of say that Etoile last name should be Shuga not Opaille. 2nd Problem is does Etoile even really exist as a girl or is she just Rafine/Pandora in disguise, like does Etoile exist and Rafine/Pandora possessed her or did Rafine/Pandora just take this form and is in fact just Rafine/Pandora. 

This next thought you need to be past World 15 Quest 17 and have Alt. Etoile 3rd affection scene or contains spoilers.

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I'm leaning towards Etoile being possessed from her last affection scene but that would mean her 3 scene are in the future. Her last scene has Etoile with some demon traits which guessing came from her time in the Shokushu world when Rafine/Pandora was taken. and Estelle has Angle traits which guessing came from her time with Lustia.

Any thoughts from those who have made it this far?

[bolitho76]

To your 1st problem: 

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It seems I had missed something, because Alt. Estelle is called Estelle Opaille and I can't see the "Shuga" term anywhere in Bio or Story. It would be nice if you could point out at which exact position you saw the "Shuga"?

To your 2nd Problem:

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In my eyes Pandora had taken the form of Etoile whle the real Etoile is at another place / is imprisoned. That Estelle refer to Pandora as "sister" even after she stopped to pretend Etoile is related to Pandoras Powers.

To your 3rd problem:

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It's not unthinkable that Pandora and Etoile (in the case my assumption would be correct, and they are two different persons) both were captured by the shokushu. At least Estelle was taken by Lyrsa so not directly by Tuto-chan/Lustia. To me it lokks like more that the demon and angel attributes are mostly "holographic" in the scene than real additions to the bodys of the two Girls. From this in my interpretation they are more artistic aditions to make the personalitys of the Girls more clear.

I wouldn't say your theories are bad or faulty, only that you had taken the your intrepreattion with another angel of sight to what happened.

 

[Yamiray]

On 9/15/2024 at 3:16 AM, bolitho76 said:

To your 1st problem: 

Looks like this one has been corrected. so you don't think I'm crazy here is the history entry from the wiki

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On 9/15/2024 at 3:16 AM, bolitho76 said:

To your 2nd Problem:

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When you say "real Etoile" since she was not in the Digisekai part of the story I can't say if she was made by Tuto-chan/Lustia or not. guess that is the first thing I would need to know.

 

On 9/15/2024 at 3:16 AM, bolitho76 said:

To your 3rd problem:

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the part where you say "At least Estelle was taken by Lyrsa so not directly by Tuto-chan/Lustia" I'm not so sure, the text was Lyrsa: "What are we going to do with her?" then Lustia: "Take her somewhere and keep her under close watch…" so what was does with her is unclear. was she saying she is taking her somewhere or telling Lyrsa to take her somewhere.

Thanks for your insights

[bolitho76]

17 minutes ago, Yamiray said:

Looks like this one has been corrected. so you don't think I'm crazy here is the history entry from the wiki

No worries. Was one of the two possible reasons why I hadn't seen the name as I looked for it. This, or there were a sentence in another part of the Story/another affection scene where the name would appear. 🙂

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17 minutes ago, Yamiray said:

the part where you say "At least Estelle was taken by Lyrsa so not directly by Tuto-chan/Lustia" I'm not so sure, the text was Lyrsa: "What are we going to do with her?" then Lustia: "Take her somewhere and keep her under close watch…" so what was does with her is unclear. was she saying she is taking her somewhere or telling Lyrsa to take her somewhere.

Well, I had, obviously, read it so, that Lustias comment was an disposition to Lyrsa, but, true, it can be read in the other way too. I fear we will never get an answer from KK side o this questions, after the ones who wrote this part of the Story aren't active at KK anymore and I doubt that KK had an oversight of the ideas and lore behind the published story (even for the published is a very low knowledge active it seems).