New Feature: Love Raids (May 14th 2025 at test, May 21st 2025 at main)

[garadron]

3 minutes ago, xRob91 said:

One of the main selling points of HH when I started playing was that among all the Pay2Play games on Nutaku in this one you could actually reach something as F2P player. But in the last years devs added so many crazy expensive features that game started resembling those which only try to swindle money out of you, and raids are another one of those features. If I started playing today and saw how much resources I had to buy with money to get girls in raids, I would quit the game instantly.

Oh yeah, that's my feeling exactly. If I wasn't already in the endgame where it's way easier to manage the flood of events I'd drop the game without second thought. HH is the only game on Nutaku I kept playing for more than a couple of weeks because it was really chill back in 2020.

 

6 minutes ago, xRob91 said:

He also works on raid module for HH++ script.

yup, already in

[Master-17]

11 hours ago, garadron said:

yup, already in

@zoopokemon, for the champion raids maybe use champions avatars or for example "4th" instead of "4". Because there is confusion about what exactly the number next to the ticket icon means. Either it is the champion's number, or the number of tickets needed to get a shard, or the first digit of the number of tickets the player has (and the rest for some reason did not fit)

For example, I'm currently raiding the fourth champion and I have over 400 tickets. And in another game - the third champion and 300+ tickets)))

[Karxan]

On 5/24/2025 at 5:25 AM, garadron said:

I've found the silliest way of checking what girl is going to be in a raid and I'm really surprised it was that easy. I feel like a hacker now 😎

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if you open the black siluette of a girl in an upcoming raid you'll get to a URL like this:

https://hh.hh-content.com/pictures/girls/187713212/avb0-1200x.webp

if you open a normal siluette of a girl for a raid that's already underway you'll get an URL like this:

https://hh.hh-content.com/pictures/girls/609235242/ava0-1200x.webp?v=3

all you have to do is change a single letter - from b to a and you'll get a normal image:

https://hh.hh-content.com/pictures/girls/187713212/ava0-1200x.webp

 

 

been doing that for years...  Rosso never reads/visits the forums, right?

On 5/24/2025 at 6:48 AM, Vovantillo said:

They're already on their way to pick you up...

*** Addition

I looked at the next girl using your method and found out that she is GL5 from LD... Fighter Gemini

had here a few months now!  She's great!

On 5/24/2025 at 9:18 AM, Methos2 said:

An easier way is to lookup the girl ID on zoo's girl spreadsheet. Go to the Data tab and search the ID on the URL with Find function. Girl ID column is hidden but the search works anyway.

Zoo made a spreadsheet for HH Girls?   When?   Where??

[Methos2]

2 hours ago, Karxan said:

Zoo made a spreadsheet for HH Girls?   When?   Where??

He started it when Blessing was introduced. The link can also be found on BDSM HH++ when you click the Blessing page.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kVZxcZZMa82lS4k-IpxTTTELAeaipjR_v1twlqW5vbI/edit?gid=505705965#gid=505705965

[zoopokemon]

14 hours ago, Master-17 said:

@zoopokemon, for the champion raids maybe use champions avatars or for example "4th" instead of "4". Because there is confusion about what exactly the number next to the ticket icon means. Either it is the champion's number, or the number of tickets needed to get a shard, or the first digit of the number of tickets the player has (and the rest for some reason did not fit)

Tried to use the avatar, but it was too small and there is no icon to use instead. Will look into "4th" instead of "4", have to see if there will be translation issues.

[xRob91]

I wonder what are the criteria for choosing girls to appear in raids. 🤔
Fighter Gemini and Melodic Amelia appeared for the 2nd time on Nutaku. First time before raids reset and now again.

From what I heard, they were on .com too. It can't be a coincidence that those 2 are the only L5s that got skins after the introduction of raids.

[mdnoria]

I suppose either this is random and they put bias in the selection of girls to prioritize girls with skins.

Or it's a manual selection but I doubt it because it would mean more work and there wouldn't be a repeat this soon.

Edited May 26, 2025 by mdnoria

[Tom208]

With only 14 girls with a skin and so many raids, it's not very surprising to have some girls twice.

[bolitho76]

This morning at hh-Discord:

[Varaczek]

Putting raids on champions has to be one single most braindead idea those people had for years. And that's including the whole skins idiocy.

[Vovantillo]

1 hour ago, bolitho76 said:

This morning at hh-Discord:

What a touching speech. I almost cried from emotion.

[Der DinX]

3 minutes ago, Vovantillo said:

What a touching speech. I almost cried from emotion.

👍

First thing coming to my mind when I read that statement of Luna:  KK will never learn.

If they only had a testserver where you actually really could test something, and that in combination to listening to feedback of the playerbase would be a great start.

Instead we get the usual "Hey we got something awesome new, chew on that" crap, and only after that goes horrible wrong and people get too loud to ignore, KK sort of starts to listening and tries to make the stuff bareable.
Sometimes maybe even with success, but always the hard way.

[xRob91]

I hope that the idea of champion raid will be scrapped altogether. I just tried to get Fighter Gemini skin, did 214 performances and spent 240 nubans (1440 kobans) only to get 18 shards. Getting L5 girl from scratch would be more expensive than getting mythic.

To make things worse, this feature is absurdly unbalanced. Whales can get girls for almost free with their platinum/diamond cards while normal players have to spend thousands of kobans. How dumb you have to be to think it was a good idea.

Edited May 27, 2025 by xRob91

[430i]

9 hours ago, Vovantillo said:

What a touching speech. I almost cried from emotion.

They just needed few more emojis to bring me to tears 😭😭🌧️🌧️. Going forwards I suggest a minimum of 1 emote per sentence, ideally 2-3.

Here is a free template they can use:

Quote

dear 🔆 players, 🤺🎮 we 👧😢 are very 😽 sorry 💔💔 and will 👏👏 do 🙅 better 👍 next ⏩ time 🕧

 

[jelom]

I am sure that whatever feedback we give them about raids it is going to be mostly ignored, but here is mine anyway

1. Do you like raids? No

2. Is there a way to improve raids? Retiring the feature completely would be the best course of action, but that is not going to happen, so a few changes could make it less damaging:

a) increase the duration of each raid to 1 day as a minimum and reduce the number of new raids in the widget so there is only four as a maximum in the window.

b) 6% drop rate is insulting. It is lower than mythic girls. 10% should be the minimum acceptable.

c) For raids in seasons, IF the drop rate is 10%, then a bigger drop range than 1-3 or 1-7 shoud be used. 5-10 is fair enough.

d) For raids in champions, there should be a fixed 10 shards in each drop.

3. NO more skins in 3 star girls (not directly raid related, but it adds to the pain)

Edited May 27, 2025 by jelom

[garadron]

I had 70 shards for Amelia. 100 CP from natural regen and Lab run gave me 8 shards.

There's no way I'm spending nubans on this. I guess I'll be happy that I have 8 shards less to buy from SM/Lab shops...

[Grifs]

Maybe this is already reported, but i got a feeling before bit now really checked that for some guys/girls in the future the raid it shows 0 shards even tough i have it already in my harem. It's basically impossible normally plan thr raid if you constantly need to check whether the guy/girl is not yet in your harem. If Kinkoid want some secrecy, then simply do not show the card or shadow there. But let's not display false info.

And as well it should be alrwady relesed with all the information of the raid instead as thr community scripts are showing like how long will.be the raid, what will be needed etc. It shouldn't request mire screen time than it's necessary for the players.

[xRob91]

After terrible experience yesterday, today I got Melodic Amelia's skin for free (tho unlike Gemini's, Amelia skin is completely useless for me). I spent only 119 CP (from free regen, laby and saved rewards) and ended with 12.6% drop rate.

I remember someone speculating that raid girls may have the same drop rates as permanent villain girls. After what happened I started to wonder if it's true. Or maybe devs rose drop rates in today's update? 🤔

Edited May 28, 2025 by xRob91

[Varaczek]

1 hour ago, xRob91 said:

After terrible experience yesterday, today I got Melodic Amelia's skin for free (tho unlike Gemini's, Amelia skin is completely useless for me). I spent only 119 CP (from free regen, laby and saved rewards) and ended with 12.6% drop rate.

I remember someone speculating that raid girls may have the same drop rates as permanent villain girls. After what happened I started to wonder if it's true. Or maybe devs rose drop rates in today's update? 🤔

No, you just got lucky. I spent 231 CP in the same raid and got 26 shards.

Edit: and now I'm actually up to 253 CP, still with 26 shards 😂

So yeah, basically it's another thoughtless attempt at cash grab, which I strongly advise Kinkoid to gently slide into their behinds.

Edited May 28, 2025 by Varaczek

[jpanda]

On 5/27/2025 at 7:07 AM, Varaczek said:

Putting raids on champions has to be one single most braindead idea those people had for years. And that's including the whole skins idiocy.

To avoid fighting, I won't say I disagree but...I've been using tickets/playing champions now when before I only did twice a month for events.

So...at minimum (for me) "it's working".

Edited May 28, 2025 by jpanda

[EpicBacon]

Here we go again...

(I have 54 shards coming in to this event)

[430i]

On 5/21/2025 at 8:11 PM, garadron said:

And now I wonder if I shouldn't spend nubans to get Lina to 100

She's supposed to be on a paid PoR path, so that's 1200 nubans down the drain

Or I could buy CP to get her and save the difference

Is this spreadsheet public? If it's not, could you check whether succubus Dahlia is supposed to be on the free or paid when when revived?

[garadron]

It's a list I did because I clearly had too much free time.

[EpicBacon]

On 5/29/2025 at 11:50 AM, EpicBacon said:

Here we go again...

(I have 54 shards coming in to this event)

Well, I managed to get 7 shards.
44 free fights, 2 separate drops (5 and 2 shards)
4.55% droprate. 
This is way to small of a sample size, but I have no doubt the droprate is 6% as has been reported.
All my testing with droprates (hero/girl equipment/epic/mythic pachinco girls and mythic days have shown
numbers corresponding with reported droprates.

While the droprate might be low, they don't fudge the drops to get you to use more currency.

The problems with shards on champions is that as a f2p, unless I want to spend kobans, I have to wait 15 minutes between each attempt. Now for certain girls one might want to do that, if its a 5* girl, or just a girl with art that one want.
Spending lots of kobans on champions for girls that are not useful at all is... questionable.

An example; If I wanted to get a girl, based on @bolitho76's champion information here:  

On 5/23/2025 at 12:55 PM, bolitho76 said:

@Alander

For champion raids:

dropchance per ticket: 6%

droprange for 3* Girls: 1-7

droprange for 5* Girls: 1-3

So what @xRob91 mentioned: mostly impossible to gain a Girl for f2p. But at least KK is thinking about improving:

 

For a 3* girl, where shards drops are 1-7, using an average of 4, it would take 417 fights on average to get the girl.
I can do 24 champion fights in one go, costing 138 each time, I would need 18 of them, for a total of 2484 kobans.

For a 5* girl, where shards drops are 1-3, using an average of 2, it would take 833 fights on average to get the girl. 
Again, I can do 24 champion fights for 138 kobans, this time I would need 35 of them, for a total of 4830 kobans.

Edit:
I did correctly use 138 kobans for 24 fights, as you do get the first one for free

Edit II:
I forgot to mention the biggest issue here, shard availability.
If a valuable girl shows up that people many people want, like if she is really strong in pvp teams, then actually being able to use fights might be a big issue, as shards might be gone in the first 60 seconds.

Edited May 30, 2025 by EpicBacon
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[holymolly]

15 minutes ago, EpicBacon said:

Well, I managed to get 7 shards.
44 free fights, 2 separate drops (5 and 2 shards)
4.55% droprate. 
This is way to small of a sample size, but I have no doubt the droprate is 6% as has been reported.
All my testing with droprates (hero/girl equipment/epic/mythic pachinco girls and mythic days have shown
numbers corresponding with reported droprates.

While the droprate might be low, they don't fudge the drops to get you to use more currency.

The problems with shards on champions is that as a f2p, unless I want to spend kobans, I have to wait 15 minutes between each attempt. Now for certain girls one might want to do that, if its a 5* girl, or just a girl with art that one want.
Spending lots of kobans on champions for girls that are not useful at all is... questionable.

An example; If I wanted to get a girl, based on @bolitho76's champion information here:  

For a 3* girl, where shards drops are 1-7, using an average of 4, it would take 417 fights on average to get the girl.
I can do 24 champion fights in one go, costing 138 each time, I would need 18 of them, for a total of 2484 kobans.

For a 5* girl, where shards drops are 1-3, using an average of 2, it would take 833 fights on average to get the girl. 
Again, I can do 24 champion fights for 138 kobans, this time I would need 35 of them, for a total of 4830 kobans.

Edit:
I did correctly use 138 kobans for 24 fights, as you do get the first one for free

I honestly don´t think people should do the champ raids... it´s way to expensive/ time consuming without a plat

(let me edit it for @mdnoria ...get what you can for free... that´s a valid point)