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Keeping with the usual trend, ending 16th this time (the suspension of my internship gave me back the old times). My new Dicktator II, at first glance, seems like the War of Chaos: I can't discern how many players are boostered, but the certain thing is that up to now I had not seen a Dicktator II with so many 300+K EGO (and more than one with 400+K). It will be quite impegnative to verify if players will keep themselves boosted or not. The main problem is that if this trend continues, sooner or later my "subscription" to the 16-30 reward tier will end, and given the increasing number of 300+K EGO players, I'm starting to fear that it will be sooner than later.

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On 3/5/2020 at 9:00 AM, _shal_ said:

My new D2 looks pretty good. The top 8 players by level are all HC or Ch, and the highest KH opponent (only 3 levels up from me) is using a wrong-class alpha. There are four other previous winners of D2 in here, HC 398 with 8, HC 396 with 5, HC 394 with 2, and a Charm 384 with 1. The HC trio will bear watching, as well as a Ch 390 (but he might demote, 5 wins in D1, best D2 rank 2nd), but I think that should be doable for me at level 384...

This turned out somewhat easier than expected:

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Most potential contenders either didn't bother to boost much (KH Vleinne in 4th was the strongest of them), or outright went for the demotion to D1. 3rd place cacahuete (HC) was the only proper challenger through the week, but his boost strategy included a minimum of 3 chlorella at all times, so that didn't work out so well. The 2nd place finisher (also HC) was sat on 0 points until near the end of day 6 and then rushed with 4x legendary ginseng - that resulted in a pretty good score (23.27 average), but it wasn't particularly close to my 23.85. I guess that approach is often good enough, though, as he does have 8 prior D2 wins on his record.

All in all a pretty boring experience after the hotly contested last two D2's I was in. Not that I mind!

I'm of course headed back to D2, and it looks like I'll be getting some XP again after the total blank two weeks ago - at the moment the bracket is already down to "only" 14 zero-pointers.

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7 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

@blaa, an impressive approach! Won't you mind if I ask some more?

sure, go ahead, i am pretty sure there is much more info which even more experienced player can add

7 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

Do I understand it correctly, that your strategy is to battle the weakest (which will give you 25 points 100%) first, and keep a close eye for the ones you're not 100% sure about, comparing their stats and identifying their boosted and unboosted state once every 6-11,59 hours?

Yes, and now. The fighting order is in fact the opposite. I try to catch the strongest as fast as possible, mostly a lot of them on day 2 or 3. Since I am following the 5 day booster strategy (explained a few pages before from @_shal_), i get 2 snapshots before I boost the first time. There are often a few higher players who already get unboosted. I think there are at least two advantages in it 1) what you have, you dont need to do. Every new snapshot has the possibility that you cant catch a player unboosted anymore. 2) Some higher players / people who go for the win start their boosting initialy if they see a player with good results - with less points in the beginning you have the element of surprise (like you can see in my post above, i had to make an average of 24,54 to win the league, I am pretty sure, qti wouldnt have thought that I am a real opponent here, and honestly I also had my doubts).

And yes, i keep an close eye on them and compare their stats every 6-11,50 hours.

8 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

By the way, can you tell the exact time, when the snapshots happen?

In theory they should change every 6 hours on 6am, 12:am, 6 pm and 12pm - in practice they often have a bit of a delay, like 1-30 minutes, If my boosters dont run out, I never fight in this time range

8 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

I honestly didn't even pay attention to them. I thought they are completely useless. Is there a set time for them to change or they change after a set amount of battles?

Yeah, like I said, most people would say, they wont make a big difference, but maybe they did the difference of 1-3 points, which would have been enough in my case - if I am right they give a small damage boost if the position they choose fits with the position of your girl, and you have a higher chance that they choose a position from your class. They change with every snapshot. (To me it seems random, which judge will appear)

 

8 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

Is it risky to do it? I mean, if the plan to finish the battle 1 turn earlier won't work, how big is a chance that you will lose points because of less defense and ego? What happens more often: you get +1, you get the same or you get -1?

So, in order to do the strat you need to actually watch the entire battle, right? Then, after the 1st battle you can decide, is it worth to change equipment for the remaining 2, or not. I just press the "skip" button all the time LOL

I get more points than I lose. But cant tell you an exact number; also i only do it, if I anticipated a small difference in outcome in the league standings. And yes, you have to watch the whole battle, sometimes I also have to adjust after the 2nd one. But usually i also just press skip, if, again, not every point matters.

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14 hours ago, linkdream said:

@Slynia I may be wrong but this one seems to be affected by that annoying glitch.

Hard to tell since his stats have changed dramatically from that picture compared to his profile now (I'm 14 hours late with my reply so xD). 
I guess he has changed boosters now.
 

But, if he's using 4x ginseng legendary boosters on that picture, then he definitely has bugged stats. I am using 4x ginseng now and that is the only way for me to have about the same endurance as he has (and we are only 7 levels apart), but when I have about the same stats, he has about 10k more damage.
I would assume that he might have bugged stats from this, but since I can't compare his current stats (as I'm not in his league) with them on his profile, I can't really tell.

>Honestly tho, I have no idea how his endurance can be that high unless he is using 4x ginseng, as chlorella boosters only increase your ego and not endurance.<

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7 hours ago, blaa said:

sure, go ahead, i am pretty sure there is much more info which even more experienced player can add

Yes, and now. The fighting order is in fact the opposite. I try to catch the strongest as fast as possible, mostly a lot of them on day 2 or 3. Since I am following the 5 day booster strategy (explained a few pages before from @_shal_), i get 2 snapshots before I boost the first time. There are often a few higher players who already get unboosted. I think there are at least two advantages in it 1) what you have, you dont need to do. Every new snapshot has the possibility that you cant catch a player unboosted anymore. 2) Some higher players / people who go for the win start their boosting initialy if they see a player with good results - with less points in the beginning you have the element of surprise (like you can see in my post above, i had to make an average of 24,54 to win the league, I am pretty sure, qti wouldnt have thought that I am a real opponent here, and honestly I also had my doubts).

And yes, i keep an close eye on them and compare their stats every 6-11,50 hours.

In theory they should change every 6 hours on 6am, 12:am, 6 pm and 12pm - in practice they often have a bit of a delay, like 1-30 minutes, If my boosters dont run out, I never fight in this time range

Yeah, like I said, most people would say, they wont make a big difference, but maybe they did the difference of 1-3 points, which would have been enough in my case - if I am right they give a small damage boost if the position they choose fits with the position of your girl, and you have a higher chance that they choose a position from your class. They change with every snapshot. (To me it seems random, which judge will appear)

 

I get more points than I lose. But cant tell you an exact number; also i only do it, if I anticipated a small difference in outcome in the league standings. And yes, you have to watch the whole battle, sometimes I also have to adjust after the 2nd one. But usually i also just press skip, if, again, not every point matters.

Just wanted to add that my strategy is different then yours and i have finished in the top 4 in my D3 leagues for 3 consecutive months:D

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On 3/12/2020 at 2:24 PM, Karyia said:

Finished 29th on D1, a personal best :)

I think it was the perks of a "weaker" league, since the new one seems much stronger.

New week, new challenge!

Yeah i feel like i got a weaker one this time, barely retained top 45 xd, how much and what booster combination are you using? 

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5 hours ago, Slynia said:

Hard to tell since his stats have changed dramatically from that picture compared to his profile now (I'm 14 hours late with my reply so xD). 
I guess he has changed boosters now.
 

But, if he's using 4x ginseng legendary boosters on that picture, then he definitely has bugged stats. I am using 4x ginseng now and that is the only way for me to have about the same endurance as he has (and we are only 7 levels apart), but when I have about the same stats, he has about 10k more damage.
I would assume that he might have bugged stats from this, but since I can't compare his current stats (as I'm not in his league) with them on his profile, I can't really tell.

>Honestly tho, I have no idea how his endurance can be that high unless he is using 4x ginseng, as chlorella boosters only increase your ego and not endurance.<

Here is an updated version of his stats:

League:

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Profile:

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4 hours ago, _shal_ said:

I'm pretty sure @blaa would play better with your account than you would with his.

And perhaps better than me, but not better than you @_shal_  :ph34r:B|. It all goes on micromanaging all battles, something that not many people does.

@casey takes playing easier, but he is a solid player anyway.

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1 hour ago, jelom said:

 

@casey takes playing easier, but he is a solid player anyway.

I just found it rather odd that a player in the top 50 by levels is bragging about his "strategy" enabling him to finish consistently in the D3 top 4, when there are something like 150 players who can get those spots each week. All that takes is avoiding outright stupid moves. (Something I'm sure plenty of other players in that top 50 don't manage, admittedly.)

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2 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

@blaa, thanks for detailed answer. 👍

What strategy do you use?

i do not want to divulge my tactics in a wide open forum but i am wiling to share them to a smaller audience, suffice to say  they are almost the opposite of Blaa's

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22 minutes ago, _shal_ said:

I just found it rather odd that a player in the top 50 by levels is bragging about his "strategy" enabling him to finish consistently in the D3 top 4, when there are something like 150 players who can get those spots each week. All that takes is avoiding outright stupid moves. (Something I'm sure plenty of other players in that top 50 don't manage, admittedly.)

during the last 6 league season's i have won twice in D3 and in both incidences  i did not have the strongest team by level and in one case there was a team 11 levels higher then

mine, ..............additionally in the other 4 seasons in which i did not win i came in second 3 times.............also  shal if you find this "odd" you need to  get out moreO.o:D

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@Shal how about showing a little respect to the creator of this thread9_9 (that's right it's me) which is closing in on a 100 pages of replies

If and when you create enough forum topic threads that generate a 100 pages worth of replies i will definitely pay homage to your forum contributionsB|

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Oh, the "don't you know who I am?" card has been played. xD

At least it's consistent of you that you seemingly believe both that A) creating this thread was some kind of special feat, and that B) your alleged league strategies are worth keeping secret. (Also amusing, considering how much help you needed from Chthugha and other posters in the early league days...)

Anyway, that's the end of my "casey is not the player to ask about smart play" PSA for newer players.

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6 hours ago, linkdream said:

Here is an updated version of his stats:

From what I see I believe he has bugged stats. I still can't think of any booster and/or gear combination that can give you those stats shown on his league photo.

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7 hours ago, casey said:

i do not want to divulge my tactics in a wide open forum but i am wiling to share them to a smaller audience, suffice to say  they are almost the opposite of Blaa's

Dont see the problem in sharing (obviously), but just let me know in club chat, what do you think i could do better or how your strategy is. I dont see how you can get any advantages, besides the obvious (class, stats, gear) if you dont micromanage (what would be the main difference to my approach). But I would love to hear some advices/comments/additions (to my strategy), especially from experienced players. The comment of shal for instance I took as, that's basically how I do it, too.

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On 3/13/2020 at 12:46 PM, ~Crown Clown said:

Yeah i feel like i got a weaker one this time, barely retained top 45 xd, how much and what booster combination are you using? 

IIRC: 

- ginseng, chlorella, cordyceps (epic) and cordyceps (rare) -> twice

A third with only rare boosters. 

It always depends on the opposition and league positioning too, of course.

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14 hours ago, Slynia said:

From what I see I believe he has bugged stats. I still can't think of any booster and/or gear combination that can give you those stats shown on his league photo.

Yeah it seems that different people are affected by the glitch in different ways.

Can someone from the porn identity club confirm this? @jelom ?

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I just ran into somebody in D3 too weak for me to fight.

One of the top players (L430, Porn Identity) showed up with such a low att/def/ego I could not attack him without scoring over 20 pts. He was running off-class L1 girls and he must have swapped in grey / low level gear because even with my worst girls (L1 off class), un-boosted, I was way more powerful. I L394 do not have any rubbish gear I can swap in.

So he is too powerful for me to beat 99% of the time and too weak the other 1%. LOL

I am demoting again this week so I am trying get as much xp for as few league pts as possible. I try to get only 17/18 pts per battle. Scoring 3 x 22 against him would have effectively cost me about 250 xp.

I think the PI guys are running some scheme to give each other max pts because I saw another PI guy in the same league do the same thing the next day.

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3 hours ago, snowman22 said:

I just ran into somebody in D3 too weak for me to fight.

One of the top players (L430, Porn Identity) showed up with such a low att/def/ego I could not attack him without scoring over 20 pts. He was running off-class L1 girls and he must have swapped in grey / low level gear because even with my worst girls (L1 off class), un-boosted, I was way more powerful. I L394 do not have any rubbish gear I can swap in.

So he is too powerful for me to beat 99% of the time and too weak the other 1%. LOL

I am demoting again this week so I am trying get as much xp for as few league pts as possible. I try to get only 17/18 pts per battle. Scoring 3 x 22 against him would have effectively cost me about 250 xp.

I think the PI guys are running some scheme to give each other max pts because I saw another PI guy in the same league do the same thing the next day.

Some of them surely do. Makes sense, i guess. I am also demoting and trying the 16-18 pts strategy, but honestly I am not so good in it. Sometimes I lose a fight and I am not sure if it's worth every point; that's why I am running this week with 18-20 points, just to not lose 200 xp to a loss, even if it's mean i lose 500 xp because of higher points in the whole process

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