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1 hour ago, Cantrix said:
I've got no problems with low drop rates(quite used to farming regular boss girls and stuff in other games) my problems come with the false/misleading information we had on her drop rate. Supposedly it was ADJUSTED (to match the chance of 7days event time)NOT HIGHER NOR LOWER. Which wasn't the case because regular event girls have quite higher chance of drop (always get them with maximum of 180 fights and i have never missed a girl).
I repeat i don't have a problem with the lower drop chance, but with misleading information. I want to know what i'm going to get myself in before i invest a lot of effort or money.
With the ADJUSTMENT stated by the devs i(and presumably a lot of other players) had the mindset of going for a regular event girl(even if her chance was halved it still would have dropped once in 642 tries(in my case) or in 1000(in other people's cases). Either her drop rate was quite lower(which again points to the false/misleading info we had) or that there was something else preventing a lot of people to get her despite the horrendous amount of tries(in some cases more than a month worth of boss battles).
RNG may be bad, but it's not bad as a misleading info putting the players in the wrong mindset(oh it's going to be just like another event) while the odds are completely different-in this case completely off charts. I suggest all fellow players to take further info(especially concerning "legenday" girls) with a grain of salt. And even if i didn't everyone who had lost money on this one will think twice before commiting to something simillar in the future. Which in the long term will hurt the game's economic support. Even if the new events are well designed with more reasonable drop rates, people will refuse to spend any money - despite good the advertisement or the promise of ADJUSTED drop rates.
All this sh*t storm could have been avoided if they had said upfront "Well she's a legendary so she will be hard to get" instead of saying we adjusted her drop rate, it's not higher or lower. Then i wouldn't have complained, because i was going to be able to make an informed decision and know what i'm getting myself into.Yeah, THAT... Totally agree.. But I have a feeling we are talking to a dummy wall here. If I knew what the chances were, I would not have wasted 6000 kobans to do many many combat refills. "ADJUSTED" can mean so many things, and from now on, when I see any of this staff post "IT'S ADJUSTED". I will not bother. They just should say what the percentage really is. Then we can decide if we wanna try for it or not.
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4 hours ago, Chthugha said:
Oh, I am very aware of my own position.
I have been very outspoken, but I always try to at least stay civil.
I shall slightly alter my approach, as I am now also the face of Kinkoid in a way.
However, if I feel things need to be changed, then I'll just use my position right now to see if I can bring it under attention.
To be honest, I didn't want to become moderator (I even said that in the forum changes thread), but Jessie kept asking me.
In the end I did it, because I want to make this forum a better heard part of playerbase.First of all, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you really felt like I were attacking you, you should've reported my post back then.
I clearly wasn't a moderator. So it would've been reviewed by whomever was doing that.
I explained my point of view to you, and the only thing you took from it was that I was personally attacking you.
It's called being oversensitive.Second of all, I wouldn't do that because I want to become a moderator.
Jessie has been asking me for over a week now if I would become moderator, not the other way around.
I even posted in the forum change thread that I didn't want to become a moderator.
In the end I did it, because I want to make this forum a better heard part of playerbase.It doesn't matter, I felt you took me out of many other posts were Jessie was mentioned and you said NOTHING about that. Just because I worded things differently to reflect how I felt you thought it was needed to tell me I was doing a good job with that and go explain to me her job position. Like I really care to know that. I didn't report you because I am not easily going that route, I would try to solve it first. But you only have been DEFENDING the staff when someone didn't say something that should have been more positive. It's not called oversensitive when you keep your mouth shut when anyone else has said almost the same thing like I did. Gawd, that I even have to explain all this is just stupid and ridiculous. I never said that you asked Jessie to become a Moderator, so do not put words in my mouth that didn't come out of my mouth to validate your argument. But you were doing all that with DEFENDING the Kinkoid Staff all the time in this thread, and I am NOT the only one that has noticed it.
Right, a better place for the player base. Unless someone of the player base says something about another staff member, that doesn't fit here. You said, I did a rant and I never toned it down. You picked me out of many others, without reading the whole message apparently and you stopped at the moment I quoted the GOOD LUCK. It is all good, you can be a Moderator. If you want that task. But I suggest to you to read something much better from now on, because your response came over like you were DEFENDING Jessie like she is your goddamn girlfriend.
Lastly, I also asked a question because I really think I want to terminate my account here. Because after your comments yesterday.. And the ones Shidou was posting... I think this is not the place I want to be apart of anymore. Because what is being done is measuring with two standards here. I felt I was ok with voicing my opinion. When money is involved, because this is not just some pocket change like 5 or 10 euro/dollars. We are talking way more here. And according to Shidou, someone has to fight a troll for over 3000 fights. In just four days that is impossible, and I do NOT think a few drawings from this place is worth over TWO HUNDRED euro/dollar. EVER!!!! That is why I think, there was no thinking first for a few seconds before actually posting what was said. Unless it is something special and exclusive like what is offered on their patreon. That no one else can get through this game. But where was your input then if you really want a better heard part of player base, when we were discussing what Shidou said? No: Your first response on page 47 was once again going on the DEFENSIVE. It's all good you know, be a Moderator. But I am not, making a mountain out of a molehill.
I have said what I wanted to say about this and I will not respond any further...
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Haha, yes NOW I completely understand Chthugha's comments. Defending and shit. Attacking me when I said something yesterday. Becoming a Moderator.
All good, I still stand to what I said before. I had all the right to voice my opinion because I wasted almost € 50 trying to get this Legendary Girl with such a terrible low drop rate, and I don't care if Shidou thinks it was set to high. Individually experiencing on my end, it was set way too low. But I am now done contributing to this forum as I now see, attacking me for what I said about JessieChan. It was all because of trying to become just that, Moderator. And don't you even try to even lecture me now on this one, € 50 is not just some pocket money change.
Well, my friend, NICE JOB THERE!!! *CLAPS HANDS* Take care...
{ EDIT } Is there an option to terminate my forum account? Because, I want to delete my account here.
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Ok, I was going to let things go Chthugha. I know you once helped me figure something out. But now you are only trying to defend those that have that golden color around their posts when you should know that Shidou has acted like a Moderator on the forum warning people about going offtopic.. That feedback has to be posted in the Feedback subforum. etc etc. If he isn't a real Moderator as you now claim, he should then not abuse it if he is just another player like all of us.
And as I can recall, he even said he was a Moderator one time. After someone said he had the Discord Moderator title/tag so it was not for this forum. But I am sorry, I am not going to spit through the forum to find those messages. If this forum role is not suppose to be there, should it not be fixed asap? Cause we see he has Moderator tag and so we see him as a Moderator. And what he said, is then considered coming from a Moderator. That is how I see it.
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I don't think it really matters anymore for me if this staff takes anything into account. For me personally, they do not have to do it to make me reconsider going for another Legendary event if they plan it. This is because mainly how Shidou has responded, "calling anyone that was complaining whiners and spoiled brats" next to him thinking, 'Drop rate could be lower cause he thinks the Drop rate was still too high". He has said things, that made more damage that can't be really fixed. Like I said, I will play... But I won't do combat refills anymore. If I don't get the girl the event has, then so be it. Pretty simple in my and for my case. Shidou thinks people have to spent over € 200,00 at least cause that is what it costs in using over 30.000 kobans to do combat refills to do 3000 fights to get a few drawings of a claimed legendary girl. Not gonna happen.
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Yes, so each main class has a Legendary girl to go for that matches their class. That I fully support for you all/ But, I also have to add that this first one has really ruined it for me for any future Legendary.
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14 minutes ago, trunks2585 said:
7. This is a new one but I'm putting it here, and that's the Shidou's replies. Now you say you reply as a player, but you are also a mod here and you are also a patreon mod. Let's be honest, you may not be a dev, but you are on their side. You said you stated your opinion as a player. I'm sorry but it's my opinion that you are not just speaking for yourself and you are trying to play defense for the devs. You are really the first one to basically tell us all to stop whining and acting like spoiled brats. And as you can see, it's not just the low drop rate that has upset us. When there's 40+ pages of negative comments, coming in with the post you made and even saying the drop rate should be LOWER tells me you have a secondary agenda. I'd ask what you think is fair but you've made it very clear that you think most the player base shouldn't get her or have a way to obtain her, which goes against the spirit of the game thus far.
8. The lack of actual developer response. They release this event and then fuck off for the weekend? Look I dunno about all of you, but if i released a brand new event I'd be curious to see what people are saying, and I'd want to make a few posts, besides sending my PR person to keep encouraging players, (or have them post something like 'we are glad so many of you are enjoying the event' to prove they aren't actually paying attention and it's just a pre-scripted post.) There was like one maybe two posts from kinkoid on this tread, one to confirm the girl was in the game, and the other to say when the event ends. Nothing to say they were taking feedback into consideration, nothing about how they didn't think anyone would have to spend 1300 battles (not kobans, battles), nothing to actually encourage players or build their trust. And it's during major events that you want to communicate with players the most, especially when one of your threads about said event is blowing up.
I had more written but this post is long enough and anything else starts to stray from my main point, which was why this event specifically was considered a failure.
Yes, I fully agree with you. Thanks for posting that.
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2 minutes ago, jyepie said:
if everyone knew the drop rate was INCREDIBLY low then i think people would have been okay with it. Pachinko only girls are super hard to get but people dont mind.
people dont mind not having pachinko only girls because we all know how unlikely they are to drop.this is different, they made it seem like it was going to be the regular drop rate for event girls.
This IS An EVENT GIRL... technically she should have been the same as other event girls... This was after all an EVENT. an event with less days than normal.I agree there, they only said it was 'adjusted' and I took that as something towards a positive thing. On that I was just an idiot. And on the rest I also agree what you have said.
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5 hours ago, Shidou said:
I'll say it once again. MY OPINION AS A PLAYER
I still believe the rates were too high. For a Legendary girl. Many people obtained her. Through 10 fights or 3000 fights.
That said, we see a fraction of the players here, so I don't know if many people that don't use the forum got her (casual players that don't spend time on this).
By what I've seen, I'd say the rates could be lowered next time.
Maybe also a 5 day time frame next with daily missions that allow the player to spend those kobans on refills.LOL.. Drop Rate should be lower.. And saying below 3000 fights should not be enough to get the Legendary Girl, that is like wrong on so many levels that I can't count them any more. As a player you should have known that atleast doing 3000 fights requires koban to do combat refills. This was just 4 days with a max of 48 per day.. totalling 192 fights. If 3000 is the minimum, that means would need 2808 fights on top of that. For 216 kobans I get 20 fights. To get 2808 more fights, I would have to do this 140 times. Which costs: 30326 kobans = more than € 200,00. Are you really kidding me? For just a few drawn pics? But since you said, it should even be more than that cause drop rate could be lowered next time, I do not know how much this has to cost players. And this is where you say things without even having thought a little moment to realize the true costs.
If you were working for my business, my friend, you would be fired on the spot and don't have to come back to work on Monday. What you just said, is not going to be helping this game business at all. You totally did do the opposite. And I can't even believe you as a mod says that. But I will take this information that you think people should spend more money on kobans and do as many refills as possible in four days. Is in short telling people to drop as much of their money in a money cash grab sink. Yeah, don't even bother anymore cause I won't go for that shit. Sure I am not saying I should get the Legendary Girl in just 20 fights. But come on, really? I don't even get to the free max of 192 fights in four days. But to tell me, I should do X amount of fights where X stands for highest amount possible should be the norm?
Yep, thanks for your input and opinion AS A PLAYER. Mine, as A PLAYER says: Go and waste your money if you want to do so. I won't. I am not going to throw in € 100,00 for a couple of pics. If there is a next Legendary event, I will first check what class the girl is.. Is it not mine, I ignore her. Is it mine, I will only do the free fights, and if she doesn't drop I won't complain. This is what you have accomplished here. So thank you again so very much... Take care.
PS: The last part what was said I ignore because those extra free kobans would not make any difference at all if 3000 fights were too easy... And it should be way more than that. One time you say "this" and the next you say "that" and the both go into a battle with each other and end result is what you started with. Makes totally no sense at all.
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25 minutes ago, Shidou said:
Negative feedback? It's a rare drop. You're supposed to be LUCKY if you get a drop. If not, then you're bummed but no complains, just carry on.
Too many people obtained the girl in total. They had the drop rate too high in my opinion.
All I see is complaining people that never played MMO's or any other game that had rare limited content. Kinda acting like spoiled brats in my opinion as a player.Thanks Shidou, I thought I was wrong with what I said earlier. But you have now truely done a very nice job there... With a comment like that. *claps hands*
( in the tl;dr version: If not getting a drop, there should be no complaints. If you do complain, you are acting like a spoiled brat. )
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5 minutes ago, Senpai-kun said:
Bosses are pretty easy to beat as long as you upgrade your gear a little every now & then. Also, you could spend some of that money and just increase your stats directly to make sure you win.
A Before & after of the Scam-Event (Levitya Event).
UGH, I am sorry. I didn't go that far. But ehm, be careful there calling it a Scam-Event. I already said something and got nailed on a cross by expressing how I felt about this event.
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14 minutes ago, Chthugha said:
" One thing I really find outrageous is the moment JessieChan responded saying... GL to those that still have to grind the worse kind of troll that only gives 3500 bucks."
That's how you start. You don't tone it down, it's the base of your comment. That's where your rant starts.
Now how isn't that attacking the one person in Kinkoid that's basically here to find the balance between the team and the players.So yes, I felt obligated to get back to you on that. And yes, I can be a bit of an ass when doing that.
I did not tone it down? I did, by calling myself an idiot. I did, when I felt being an idiot. But fine, you know... whatever. And no, I am not gonna call you an ass either. Take care.
( All it really did was giving me the impression that it is for future references, to stay away from mentioning any names and for me to just keep it simple by saying: Gawd guys, I am such an idiot. Anyways, thank you for validating this impression. I now know where boundaries are. )
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22 minutes ago, Chthugha said:
Nice job there.
I can tell you one thing; Jessie just meant it the way she said it.
When she says good luck, she really wishes you good luck trying to get the girl.
She's their PR manager and Community manager, but as far as I know knows nothing about the programming part of the game.
She's in fact the one that will take all the feedback into account and couple it back to the devs to see how they can improve this idea for next time, without making it a monetary loss for them.Yes, well I do understand that. And I do believe she meant as wishing everyone good luck. But the way I did experience this short event, made me feel like an idiot for even trying. I never had to spent that many kobans since I started playing. But why do I feel this comment on my post is now like me getting nailed on a cross by saying what I said. Which I mainly was saying how stupid I have been for wasting all those kobans? Just because I said her name, it is a penalty offense? Cause that is now how "Nice job there" feels like to me.
This was an event that only lasted a few days.. Three or Four... However it is seen and counted. And I already knew that I wouldn't get the Legendary Girl if I did not spend any kobans for refills. I can't do the full 48 a day either, cause I go to bed when I am tired. I can max do 40 a day. Maybe I should have stopped at 2000. But I really wanted that legendary girl cause she matches my main class. But also I don't get the same amount of fights when a refill was only 150. But I don't think I will ever try again next time.
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I have been reading along in this thread since start of that Legendary Days event. One thing I really find outrageous is the moment JessieChan responded saying... GL to those that still have to grind the worse kind of troll that only gives 3500 bucks. To me, after having wasted 6000 kobans on refills (and yeah, I could keep on doing that but I decided not to do that as it would have ended up even wasting more and more kobans.) that comment alone feels to me like saying...
"Hey idiot, go on.. keep dropping in those kobans till you reach zero!!!"
And maybe I really was an idiot. One thing is for sure, it was Legendary allright... A Legendary Koban Waste Pit.
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I didn't get her. Wasted 6000 kobans on refills and the normal combat points I had after waking up. I won't do this ever again. The only thing I kept seeing was getting 3500 ingame money.
Horrible event. I wanted to have her as I am being hardcore stat.
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5 hours ago, hosefucker said:
thank you Encino. it worked the way you suggested.
Awesome!
You're welcome. Glad I could help.
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'Adjusted' cause it is only three days to get this legendary girl -> My ass!!! Wasted already over 5000 kobans for battle refills and nothing, no drop. I think I should just give up and let this one pass. If the money reward was any better than I would have said, ok. But only seeing: You Won! Here is your 3.500 ingame money is not worth it either.
Next to that, I already have it happen a few times now that I refill with kobans, and I hit battle it takes off another koban for no reason at all.
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I use a prepaid credit card and everything works fine purchasing monthly card. I did read somewhere sometime on the forum that, when checking the auto renew option could give problems. Have you tried to do this without checking that option? Are you sure there is enough funds on the prepaid credit card? Some might add some extra fees (in case you pay in another currency) and that might result in to processing errors? It is a wild guessing. But I have no problems encountered previously.
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I don't know if you do this, I did read somewhere once that when checking the option to auto renew was giving problems. Have you tried to purchase the monthly card and not check that option? Does it still give you that error message that it can't process the card? I do not use that option myself and I did click the extend button... And only check the I have read and agree to the terms, then click on confirm purchase. It has not given me any problems this way.
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On 3/20/2018 at 8:32 AM, Zorba the Geek said:
Is Lenaelle charm too? Oh my f'n God! How do you know this?
It shows all the harems on the harem heroes wiki. And yeah, it shows she is charm. Lenaëlle
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It is not so much that it gives me an error line. It is that sometimes quite a lot the game freezes up when for example, doing PvP battles. Or going to any kind of option from the homepage screen. But I will try to get this information. And this started happening last Friday. When it happens, for example a battle, either PvP or troll. The pictures aren't loaded and the button to skip stays greyed out.
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Ok, I tried with the F12 when a freeze up happens, but there is nothing shown for me to copy and paste. I use FireFox 59.0.1 (which is the up to date version). Because of not able to get log of error lines, I will attach some screenshots:
(The Freeze Up)
(Freeze Up followed by 503 Error)
More of the same is mentioned here: http://forum.hentaiheroes.com/index.php?/topic/3965-recent-lag-and-errors/
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Good lord yes, I am experiencing this too for the past few days. Pretty much everywhere I think, PvP battles, Troll Fights, Using the dropdown menu or the sections on the home screen seems to not respond at all.
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Hentai is Japanese so I pronounce her name as option 3.
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*BUMP*
@Kinkoid - @Shidou - ANYONE FROM THIS STAFF??
Can this problem be solved or is this so called "asking for help" just to brighten up this sub-forum and there is no getting help at all?
Jeezzz, I posted this on Sunday and it's Thursday and still no one responds and I even have messaged a Mod privately without any response...
Legendary Days Discussion
in General Discussion
Posted · Edited by Encino
I know it is very unfortunate that it is going to seem I was fighting with a Moderator. I was not intending doing that, it was between the two of us being just regular forum members and unfortunately it transitioned into Chthugha's promotion. So do not see it all as an attack at a Forum Moderator.
And that is the last thing I contribute to this thread and forum because I felt it was needed to make things ok again. And for what it is worth, I congratulated Chthugha privately as well in becoming a Forum Moderator.
I am still going to play the game, if it means I would loose my game account as well, I am going to just leave the forum behind cause I invested a lot in the game.
Take care.