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I do not know much of French Language... But this LE DEBUT DE LA FIN DE HENTAI HEROES ? basically translates to: The debute to the end of Hentai Heroes?

I have that same feeling to be honest, that once you say not liking it you get jumped on like they do in American Football.. Meh, I saw I had to make and register an account, I never used Discord before. Exactly, I also could see that...

I know that is why I said it was not towards you. Oh, yeah if that is so I hope there are many Patreons here so they can cancel their pledge money to kinkoid team. That is pretty rude as hell to those that pay huge amounts of money so these Devs can have their income.

Really, Devs on this forum do not have an 'Edit' button? I mean, come on seriously. Aren't you also not laughing out loud when you type all that? It almost sounds like a funny joke if that was the reason why it didn't make it into the patch notes. It was two days in between those two actions. ( No offense towards you, Damoncord ) No offense to the women Hmmm, try that once with your girlfriend. "oh honey, I made a few little changes with this or that" You are garanteed to sleep on the couch tonight if it was a bad move.

SMH. You know, it was probably just better to go to google and search for Hentai Girls pics and look at that for a few minutes. Than all of this crap.

Then Kinkoid had to mention that in the patch notes as well. No where was that info given two days before implementing all this. All it said there was a fix or something for those over level 101. And that was all. So, it was then holding back on information that if it was given, a lot of drama could have been avoided. In my opinion. Well, then since it was not fully accurate, what else was not told before the patch went live? ( Drop rates were calculated as accordingly... But oops, I used an old casio calculator from the 80's that hardly functioned and difficult to read the display... )

Here we go, new daily missions and the first one on top is having... Flowers 3 Aff... Yeah woohoo, that will really add a lot to add to a girls affection huh. At this rate, these kinds of rewards, it will take me till 2020 before I finally can upgrade a girl to a 5-star.

I agree, me too..

Pay to Win was actually wrongly chosen, keeping in mind of getting girls. The word Win, was wrong. But Pay to Play does stand, cause the combat reload is now this long, that when the next 7day revival event starts, probably many are in need to use kobans to get these girls. We can argue on that till the end of the universe, it is what it is. IN MY OPINION!!! Drop rates are bogus because I have had no girl drop. Even tho, event girls would have had a higher drop rate than normal ones, well, I have not yet gotten Loving Bunny at Harem Heroes. So again, we can argue this till infinity. I state what I am experiencing. Many changes we now have seen were never even mentioned to happen at all.. Feels like things were rushed out instead.. HERE YOU GO GUYS!!! HAVE FUN. Yeah, whatever. we can argue and debate about it but I was glad those grey and green items were not returning, and now they did and it feels like a set back to last year... Edit PS: Besides, are we all just being stupid with what we are saying here then? Look around, it is not even on this forum where people are COMPLAINING about this patch update. It's on the Facebook page too. That you got lucky and get girls does not mean it's really re-balanced like it was stated. It feels like it's still the same as before. With getting less on so many rewards now.

Kinkoid won't reveal that information. But yes, I had no girl dropped yet and I thought it would have done atleast because I have battled bosses like crazy before the patch. Event girls normally have a higher droprate than the normal girls a boss drops, on Nutaku I still need to get Loving Bunny, and she has not dropped either. I am about to call it bullshit. Probably used some weird calculator to do all the maths in re-balancing. Thank you dudd, glad you do see that it isn't as fucking awesome as some have said. it is only a couple of patches update that we just were not happy with, that is combat reloads time, income of money from the bosses and now those stupid crappy items showing up again that is worth nothing when upgrading girls costs so much. Some patches were ok, I am fine with that. But there is two things that really needs to be fixed, I have already seen more people say they quit because this is becoming a Pay-to-Play game, whatever kinkoid thinks to claim otherwise. As it looks now, I am going to be forced to spend my kobans on combat refills battling some boss that gives a ridiculously low income with each fight. smh

Nope, I have not gotten a girl to drop yet. I am also playing on Nutaku Harem Heroes, where I still have to get Loving Bunny to drop, also there she did not drop for me. I got those two event girls on Hentai Heroes already, but I have to say that it took me between 30 to 35 reloads on combat before Loving Bunny finally dropped. So yeah, I agree that the next revival 7 day event is going to look much different now with the reduced fights and the long 10 hour combat reload. After this current event, I will stop playing on Nutaku Harem Heroes as it is worthless to me to even continue doing that. I have some spare kobans there, and once I get 900, which should be possible by the end of this current event, I will do one last 10x Epic Pachinko and never play there ever again. Here, I have to sit out a few monthly cards that I bought two weeks ago. So it might take enough time for whatever is to come, if there are fixes to this bad patch.. But all is going to be decided on. One thing is for sure, I do not spend any more real money into this. That ends. Maybe I then come back once a day.. maybe once a week.. But things have changed for me towards this game, that's for sure.

No, your math is wrong. It was not just 60 fights. If someone who can't sleep as much like normal and really would be here the whole day and night, it would be 72 fights that can do max with the old system. Loosing 24 fights per day is pretty much really that much. This new patch, slashed that down with 1/3 of amount. So, if that is not really that much... Here another example, I know it is ridiculous to even type this out but maybe you think first. If your boss at your rl work decides to slash and cut off 1/3 of your real income, wouldn't that be not much either? Yeah, I know it is a strange comparison, but maybe this helps to understand things. For most of us we used all those fights to farm income and new girls and whatever. If it was really just 12 fights, I would have agreed with you maybe, because I do sleep normal hours and I would loose out on a bunch of fights. Some don't even get to 48 fights per day, like me. But I never complained about that because my sleep and health are far more important than being here 24/7. Arena battles do not compare to boss fights at all, they are worthless to me as I do not care to do those. I am not here for doing Arena. I am here for the girls that we can get. That is what this game was advertising on. Not much of a problem, well I beg to differ on that argument because me and many others see it differently and it is a problem that needs to get a fix.

Quoted: Tommy55 As a counterpoint to all the doom & gloom about the patch I'd just like to say the changes are FUCKING AWESOME!!! Heh heh heh --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To those that have been saying that this update is in your words, so FUCKING AWESOME, you all do not realize it yet because you all are not yet level 180 and above, having about 50 girls in harem. Realize, you will come back to those stupid words that you have now carved in this threat. Each new girl that you get and gets added, is more expensive to fully max out on her affection and levelling. You all will find out soon enough, and then if this all stays, you won't be that happy as you pretend to be now. I only will make this clear just one time, as I have no mood to educate your stupidness all the time. Enjoy this FUCKING AWESOME update now, it will bite you in the ass sooner or later. Affection costs rise with each new girl, and combining all the costs is going to need you to spend 50 million soon enough. to max all out, some 5 star girls already do require 10+ million to upgrade. Still think this is an awesome update? When your income has been slashed into half of what it was. You will find out how sour this update really tastes. Saying that you fucking love this update, yes it is from guys that have just recently started this game maybe for a couple months, us people who have been doing this for almost a year or longer, are telling you it is not that fucking awesome, but eventually, you will get there. It doesn't matter Tommy55 if you are already lvl 97, it means absolutely shit to me because when the new levels were put in, yes I was playing when there used to be a level cap at level 40, I was over level 100 pretty fast cause you levelled up like daily. Currently where I am at, it takes about two to three days, depending on how much xp can get. But it is improving the girls in your harem, when you have over 50, 75 or whatever, that is when you will feel how shit this update really is. Being at just 26 girls, that is fucking nothing compared to what most of us have. FUCKING AWESOME does not even cut it for your addition to say we all are whiners here. See where I am getting too? Put yourself for just 1 day in our shoes, you will rephrase what you have said here. Collecting this cash that is hardly needed to improve everything, takes much longer now to collect. Worse case scenario, for some it could now mean they have to farm low amounts of in-game money for months, just to pay for those books, gifts etc in the market, not to mention the huge amounts it costs to upgrade each new girl they get. So first, before you claim it is FUCKING AWESOME, look up the names here at the ToF or whatever to see what someone's stats are at. You have been playing long enough now to see that each new girl costs more to upgrade. So I do not even get it why you just come and write out one single sentence claiming it's fucking awesome. That logic just completely beats me... Do you even KNOW how long it will take to level up all these trolls in nine different worlds? And then realizing their income they give, still won't really match up to what it was before. PS: You just did not look at all of this in the whole perspective. Sure, I have no problems with all the things that got updated. Just a few things and there are many others like me that have pointed this out many many times now. Here in this thread. In the announcement of the patch notes thread. On Hentai Heroes Facebook. So in other words, we are all just whining about it huh. Yeah whatever.

It could have all been tested as it was claimed by the Devs. I think, I have already decided what to do and it is as following... I am going to quit this game as soon as my monthly cards expire. I do not even wanna wait until something gets fixed, this was a horrible bad idea. Some like the changes, fine.. I don't. And I think I am not going to waste much more. I don't think it is going back to where it was, this crap is going to stay. I don't think it really needs more than a day to admit how fucked up this change was, to be honest, we were never told it would be this huge impact at all.. The real annoying thing I jucy can't stand anymore is when someone says it is now "Pay to Win", yes actually it should be, "Pay to Play" which is the right thing to say. Win was probably chosen, even by myself, with having the win associating towards, winning a girl e.g. getting a girl. I guess that brought the confusion... But this has become a "Pay to Play" kind of game, and Kinkoid, you do not need to tell me that I am wrong and everything is for free. It is not, when people have to start using their kobans to do reloads just because they don't wanna wait for your ridiculously long combat timer to fill combat points. It is what it is. We are all here, to get harem girls, that is what this game is advertised with. That you want to expand Arena, PvP, whatever, I don't care. I am here only for the thing I have been doing since I registered here last year on the 1st of July. People will start using their kobans to do refills and that is what costs the money, do not even start with saying you can get 150 kobans each day completing daily missions. We all know that, but most times, a girl doesn't drop in the first or second 20 combat points, so eventually, it is using kobans, earned free or not, for me has no meaning. Because the last time when I was trying to get Loving Bunny, I almost used 5000 kobans. And I am not kidding because that event girl refused to drop and I did like 30 to 35 reloads. I have not seen anything yet drop from Bremen where I have one remaining of his harem girls, And I have battled him as much as I could this first day with new patch updates, NO LUCK AT ALL.. So, the next 7 day event, I am needing to spend again a few thousand kobans to get whatever and how many revival event girls are going to be available. So, no need to tell me this is not "Pay to Play". The last 7 day event, it was already very difficult for people to get all the three girls, where Cupid chan for some never dropped at all. Don't believe me, go and check the harem heroes wiki. I do not like sweettalk bs to say I see things wrong, I am having more intelligence than that. You probably also do not really care if you loose paying members, how small it might be, cause I get it, monthly card is just € 2,99... But still, it is a form you invented so we as loyal players could support the hard work you all do. But it is also a give and take for me, you made things worse with this patch update, even if some are telling you they like the changes. Those are probably also the ones that do not even look at the whole picture and get distracted with the first comic image. When you spend kobans for reloads, it costs a player money. Simple as that. And using in the thousands is not going to be earned back that quickly. Many people have now given you the feedback, when I asked you if you would reconsider the 30 minutes to 20 minutes, you told me you desire to keep it as it is. While everyone, combined in two different threads, have spoken that was a change they did not like as it was loosing out on battles by atleast 24 a day. I do not call this a re-balance. Then with all this junk (yeah basically it is junk, for my level being 182) Arena, Market, and Daily Missions spitting out common gift items that were either just 3 or 7 affection points, I can say things were kept from all of us. Next to trolls/bosses giving a fixed static set income, which increases only by 100 with each level they go up, you have given way less rewards to us now. What is the point for us to go and fight these trolls like retards to level them up so they give more, it makes no sense. But I get it, you created this game. You could have given all these info and facts how low the money rewards was going to be, but you gave no numbers on that. If I knew, this was going to happen, I would have not bought a few monthly cards in advance just two weeks ago. So I am pretty much stuck with that too, have to wait till it runs out and expires. I will probably log in once a day to collect those kobans, fight a troll 20 times, do the daily missions, and forward myself in the story.. But that will be about it untill the last day of the monthly card. Then you have lost another paying member in me. Probably it doesn't do you much and concerns you. Cause who am I, there are probably a lot more paying members that stay. But I am sure, you also have lost some. You do not need a lot of time to let everyone know what is going to happen now, even if it just was a small indication on your's and any dev's side. Do whatever you think is good for the game, even if it is keeping everything the way it is now. But the truth is, counting all those messages that have been posted here and in the other thread, tells me majority is not liking this. If girl drop was one of the improvements with this new system, I can tell you it is not true, I also play on an account on Nutaku Harem Heroes, where I still need to get Loving Bunny, which is an event girl, who is more priority, she has not dropped there either. And I refuse to use up my kobans there. This was a total huge disappointment because I liked this game very much. But I have no time for this kind of game where I only can click this and that... and then wait for 12 hours on energy and 10 hours for combat. As I have already said many times, I do not care for Arena and those free fights. And that is not going to change for me to do those three clicks each 30 minutes either. But I am just done when my monthly cards have expired, because I can do other things instead. That is all I am going to say on this....

That is cool! I never said there are no women playing Hentai Heroes. Infact, I do think there are women here because why not. I only responded to someone who removed his actual posting without quoting him. I was stating to him that it is possible the opponents he gets in Arena, are bots. The names he gave, he couldn't find in ToF. And I do think women would choose a better name, than the obvious like Sexgirl or something. And on that, I could have been wrong. But, thank you for saying you are a woman. It is nice to know that I was right for some others not to always think there are no women. Because there are women who like to play Hentai Heroes just as we men do. I did not mean any offense with my comment.

Indeed.

Who knows, I have no idea. For the sake of keeping players, I hope the devs take action asap. there is enough feedback now posted in the past three days in both threads worth.

I totally understand, and I agree. I am normally not caring for Arena at all. it doesn't really value for me anymore. It was wasting combat points. I have also already seen I have lost a few times already, even from someone that was just a little bit over on ego score. Then next one was someone that had a total lot higher ego, and I beat that. It really makes no sense. It is like I am back to my first month at Hentai Heroes where I got a lot of "You've Lost" results. Trust me, if I could change it, I would have lol. But I am not a dev. Kinkoid's response was: if you loose a battle, you can use boosters. riiggght!! as if that really solves anything. In my first month I got beaten the crap out of my character even with 4 boosters equipped. Because there was always one or two that was probably a bot that had a much higher ego than I was. And now it is back to that same thing again.

More like, one thing I really liked was when the patch went out where it was said, if reach x-amount of girls, common gifts would not appear in market. Then if had more x-amount of girls in harem, rare gifts would no longer appear in market. with this patch and change, all previous patches have been blown off the table and those silly very low items are back again. Considering the fact, that most of my harem girls already are at max and I have two that got their max 5 star upgrades. Those common gifts are now so stupid with some giving just 3 or 7 affection. I don't need to have those anymore, it was fine I only could buy epic and legendary gifts. Now we are stuck again with those stupid low items. Very awesome game upgrade there. Income, has dropped so drastically. That it is not even worth it anymore to continue with this. I don't really care anymore what other patches will give, this one has done so much damage something that Kinkoid doesn't even realize. I am stuck for a while because I did not see this coming, otherwise I would not have bought a couple monthly cards in advance. I will have to sit this out on sake of that. Maybe things do get changed, and I really hope Kinkoid and his devs do realize that for the sake of keeping players, or just decide to pull the plug now. I don't know what is really worth more, but as I have seen, a few already had enough with this and if they really have decided to quit and being done.. Then I don't know anymore what is worth more to the devs. All what was mentioned in the patch notes, were only apparently positive things. No where was there a mention that every sort of income would get lowered, even the daily missions suck, with having next to some money, those ugh dumb low shitty affection items that many would just throw away as it doesn't add anything of value.

Well, yes it is known a lot of these are not actual players. Mostly recognizable with names like Harry Potter.. etc. Not sure, if can call this a scam though. It has always been that way since I ever started last year in July. To be honest, I doubt if those were like real actual girls playing here, someone would choose to call them self, Sexgirl. lol. (maybe I am wrong on that) But for as being a bot, that is nothing new really. Always has been. Names that have movie characters, or all in caps, or with like -kun or -sama or whatever at the end. Are bots.

I will follow doing that same thing. Once my monthly card expires. It's done. Everything turned out to be for the worst and if that is the strategy, it was accomplished!!!

LoL we just have to wait... Well, there will not be much left if most have decided to move on to other better things. /shrugs

Exactly, I have been farming trolls/bosses all the time, I have won some contests that was for battling trolls and reached 1st place many times. I collected up to 52.8M on game money already, it could have been way way more, but I also did upgrade girls to 5 stars in between too. Bought lots of epic affection gifts. Leveled up girls to be close to what I am on level. So yes, I am also one of those people that farm bosses.

I will be done with Hentai Heroes anyways the moment remaining monthly cards run out/expire. I am not extending anything anymore, no need for me to stay a paying member and supporting such crap as it is now. Loosing mojo to a character that Arena spits out to fight against is also stupid. Not one girl has dropped after I have been farm battling world bosses the whole time, thinking this patch was going to increase is another reason. The next 7 day event is going to suck too, meaning have to use kobans to refill combat points... No thanks. When my monthly cards expire, I will throw away all my saved up kobans on epic pachinko and then I am gone if things are not fixed to balance things out as it should have. I am done.

Yeah, it made that other patch update useless to begin with, I was really glad those shitty common items were never to come back as they add nothing to affection at all.. I liked that I only saw epic and legendary items in market. Like many have said, and some will disagree on, this patch update was a roll back on things that was long time ago. Feels like, someone pushing a button and screws things up making you party like it is 1999 again.