pitythefool

I see edmuse is lvl 325, but there's no guarantee he had loving bunny/lupa, val abrael/red battler either so those could possibly detract from his attack totals as well. Also if he didn't have the girls from the event when attraction was implemented that's potentially -48 as well toward his karole totals. Honestly the games only p2w if you are gambling on epic pachinko or very impatient. As a free player (minus monthly card recently just because 50-60-70+ girls are annoying to collect cash on), I have no problems earning enough kobans to sustain my play which consists of ignoring pachinko girls and getting all event boss girls. I mean really you only need kobans for strategic moves like a refill for a contest, or to move up in league, either way it generally nets you (more) kobans. Aside from that your koban supply should basically grow from dailies etc and only go down when you need to buy refills to get boss event girls which isn't that often. I'm sure my focus will shift as I keep leveling up and accumulating girls, but with that said there is some level of common sense in keeping a reserve of kobans. Not sure why or how you passed up on fabienne. The first day of legendary days had the 35% off refill discount. Even at the end, had your semi poor luck continued you probably would have needed like 15-20 refills to finish (3240-4320 kobans not discounted), still cheaper than a x10 pachinko roll. My point is, even if we have to spend some kobans to get girls now, it seeeeeeems like it's at a rate that's sustainable - where if you just play the game daily and build up some reserves you won't ever have to P2W, just play to win. Also you have only had the opportunity to get 3 new girls under the current system and 4 revivals. 2 of the new girls are in the current event and you probably won't obtain your first one for another 2-3 days, however you should get both for free. That's what the math indicates. The math for fabienne or any 5 star legendary girl going forward never worked out unfortunately unless you were going to spend kobans or get the lucky 100 attraction jackpot.

The numbers I put out are guesstimates based on Averages from data and Averages are just that, Averages. Some people fall below average and some people are above average. Not gonna lie, 8 shards in ~100 attempts is pretty terrible, but who is to say you wont get something like 20 shards in your next 10 attempts? (Or even the 100 crit). Also ~100 tries is more like 1/3rd of the guesstimated average (~286) so I'm not trying to downplay your bad luck, but you still have essentially 4 days (~190 attacks) to get back on track. Additionally the idea that you're only going to get 1 shard each time it pops up is ridiculous. I can say with pretty good confidence that the numbers are basically equal chance to get any shard value in the allotted range (1-6 for this particular event). Now while I agree with you that girls were for the most part easier to get before, this new system is better for multiple reasons. The fact that you know how many shards you need to get a girl at the end of an event is extremely helpful. Gives you a strong idea of how many kobans you would roughly need to spend in order to acquire her based on the data/averages. And again that previous point also plays a part when you're in a mad scramble to get additional girls in short events. For example the last epic days I managed to snag 3 girls which may not be so easy under the new system (though I was using kobans for refills throughout anyway), but the last girl I tried to get, the ring tv girl (vissihar).. I ended up spending 1-2k kobans (HH) as a last ditch effort trying to snag her and ended up with nothing. Under the new system I'd either A. Have shards for next time, or B. Know roughly how much more I would have needed to spend to finish her off, instead of firing aimlessly hoping to RNGsus that I got her. So anyway, long story short, yes girls are likely harder to get now, especially if its 2 girls in a short 4-5 day window and may cost you some kobans in general, but with that said, you also aren't going to be wasting tons of kobans 'hoping' you get a girl. You have tangible progress now and an idea of what it will take to finish getting said girl. And as I said in my previous post, these types of long events should be building up your koban supplies while generally letting you get the boss event girls for free. (If you're going to throw kobans at pachinko, that's on you, if/when you don't have enough kobans for event boss girls). I'm sorry you're having some god awful RNG right now, but I don't think that's indicative of the system as a whole. I've run more than a handful of tests and it pretty much all parses out to 9-15% shard rates. (Just a suggestion, if the RNG feels really bad try doing some x10's. I feel like it can help in those situations based on some experience, but I make no guarantee about it, however I did just get a x17 on gruntt doing that on the test server - to be fair something like that isn't THAT common though, but you could reasonably expect like 3-7 with this events rates (1-6). That's not to say you wont get 0's and sometimes get like 15+, RNG is RNG. I just did another x10 on a different test account where gruntt still has all his girls and got 13 for her, I'll include the picture. Just to be clear this won't necessarily improve your numbers overall (IE you most likely wont get 13 every time and finish a girl in 80 attacks, but say you get 13 a couple times, all of a sudden you're back on track), the averages over the course of getting a girl in the long haul will still be that 9-15% rate - I can post both my Fabienne results from legendary days if you want, one was singles and one was only x10's).

It's just a game, sure it would be nice if things read the best they could, but I don't find it particularly distracting as is. If poorly written lines or what have you were in more prominent spots then I'd say it's a cause for concern, but as it sits, I think you kind of just see the text then move on, not to revisit it at all for weeks/months if ever.

I understand where you're coming from. I felt the same way, but the truth of the matter is it was always luck. I generally felt like I could get girls within 40-150 attacks, but I definitely ran into situations where it would take 6, 7 or 800 attacks to get one girl. Amount of attacks never improved RNG of event girls. This new system basically makes those situations of bad luck extremely unlikely. Acquiring boss girls is much easier now, and acquiring event girls for all intents and purposes is easier as well (since both extremes of good and bad luck have essentially been removed/mitigated greatly), with the exception of epic/legendaries where spending kobans is pretty much necessary now - HOWEVER, as I believe I stated before, these events aren't that common so saving up some kobans between the 1-2 month breaks shouldn't be the most difficult thing to do. I have done some fairly extensive testing and it has indicated theoretical numbers that you can reasonably hope to get a girl from (basically that 10% rate, if not slightly better). If you keep track of your attacks, attraction attacks and total attraction you can see how it all panned out. RNG is RNG though, so if it takes more or takes less, it is what it is. Legendary girl Fabienne for example, took me 417 attacks, 51 shard events, 15 legendary gifts, but regardless I did better than the 10% rate (12.2%). I repeated the test on the test server and it took between 451-460 attacks (Was using x10's in this example) and it was 48 shard events (10.4%), 17 legendary gifts. Either way both took less than the estimated 500 attacks, not to say you won't fall on the unlucky side of the spectrum, but I also don't think you'd ever have to use more than say ~700 attacks to get a legendary girl now with very bad RNG. People in the past have spent thousands upon thousands of kobans and gotten nothing so this really helps them out. And honestly, if you had to buy 500 attacks to get a legendary girl, you're still coming out equal to or better than the Epic Pachinko (216 x 25 = 5400) which is always a good thing in terms of value a girl, especially a legendary one. I didn't really have the best luck with the last revival, Loving Lupa and Loving Bunny, but even then I still was able to get them both in 296 total attacks which meant yes I had to spend someeee kobans, but they were still under the guesstimated acquire rate of 308. All I can suggest is that you try doing some veteran moves to help mitigate the amount of kobans you spend, such as allowing your attack bar to stay mostly filled prior to reset to give yourself 18-20 free attacks to start off an event. Theoretically, it was 240 attacks from the 5 day event + the pre saved 18-20 attacks, then 0-10 extra attacks from arena dailies, then you have to buy refills, 2 refills would cost ya 432, while the 5 days of missions gives you 750. As long as you aren't losing kobans in the grand scheme of things, I don't really see the issue, because you ultimately get events like this current one, where you should be able to get the 2 boss girls and the mission girl (assuming you don't have them) and you're LIKELY going to get nearly 3000 kobans without having to spend any which affords you ~300 attacks in future events. @Chthugha Thanks for the koban numbers.

Honestly, the new system is better than the old system in pretty much every way. You've noted the only negative which is that you lose out on battle cash every time you win attraction. These amounts aren't that meaningful in the grand scheme of things. (There are other negatives I could list off, but it's more for more veteran players who have already passed through worlds, but I digress for now). The new system is an improvement over the old system, you'll pretty much get all the boss girls before you end up finishing a zone now. As for event girls, most should still be acquirable without using kobans. The exception would be Legendary Days girls and Epic days girls, since Legendary Days are usually 4 days long which is roughly 200 boss battles and the math and testing indicates it takes approximately 500 to get one. The math if you're curious is about a 10% Shard rate from battles. Assuming the boss has no other girls, this is what you're looking at in an average situation: - Legendary Event Girls drop 1-3 (so an average of 2) which = ~500 battles as a reasonable assumption to acquire the girl - Epic Events drop 1-5 (3 average) = ~333 battles - Classic Events 1-6 (3.5 average) = ~286 battles - Revival Events 1-12 (6.5 average) = ~154 battles per girl This current event is a 'Classic Event' so each girl should take you roughly ~285 battles to get. The events 12 days long which should afford you 576 battles guaranteed if you don't let your battle meter max out. So getting both girls should be possible without spending kobans barring bad luck. Moral of the story I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Play more strategically, save more kobans. There is a method to the madness of the release/event schedules. Build up a supply of kobans so you can get the girls you want on epic and legendary day events. This entire event should net you ~2500+ kobans (HH), 12 dailies -1800, 12 days of event mission quests ranging from 42-108 I believe? Plus you're likely to place top 4 in contests which are additional kobans assuming you play often enough, along with weekly rewards such as tower of fame and league. You can still get a 100 attraction critical on girls, it's just rarer than before from what I can tell. I got donatiens event girl on the test server within 10 attacks.