Peckerbird

Yeah, that's what I'm finding with my HC accounts especially. My equipment is just not up to the job (nor are my girls, with few options - being hardcore - available anyway). Has anyone noticed just how hard it is to get decent equipment now? In HC especially, the equipment is crap and it's hard to get my stats into a competitive state. I usually haven't had to buy stuff, but I have with HC since the changes. In neither HC account was I successful in getting Levitya, which was a blow. For know-how, it's business as usual for me as I seem to have a good team (like for this account). Based on the formula given above on team attack power calculation, I put this to great effect in my know-how accounts by switching from Princess Agate to Princess Noemy as beta and taking Secretary Rabbi out of the team altogether (you were brilliant and very sexy, Sweetheart, but your lovely pussy needs a rest). This seems really odd and counter-intuitive, but Noemy's know-how stats are good enough not to dent attack power for know-how too much and she adds a lot to charm defence. I noticed a big difference as soon as I made the change. She's only at 4 stars at the moment, but I'll be upgrading her soon. I have a feeling Kalissa may also be really useful once she's upgraded (that's going to cost me an extortionate sum!). So, while I've been bitching about how charm has been unfairly favoured in both the assignment of classes to world reward girls and to the attack power allocated to charm girls, I'm in the peculiar position of being able to use two of their girls against them (I think Abrael may prove useful in the same way for HC players). Beta and omega girls are proving really important with the changes in PvP, especially with the introduction of harmony and how it's effects are spread across opponents. Even though a an even greater element of randomness has been introduced, for evenly matched players the battles last much longer bringing beta and omega into play for longer, especially with 'reassurance' to heal ego to a greater extent than in the past. This means that the contribution beta and omega girls' stats make to one's team is of crucial importance, as I'm finding with Princess Noemy on my team. When she comes on, adding significantly to my defence, I notice an immediate blunting of my opponent's attack. After she's in play, my opponent's ego drops at around a 20% greater amount relative to mine which means I can come from behind and beat him/her. If anyone tells you beta and omega girls don't matter, don't believe them because they do, more so now than ever, especially if your equipment is not quite up to the mark. Choose your betas and omegas wisely. On another matter, has anyone noticed a fall off in drop rate for girls? Since the end of the Supergirlzz event only Miss Spook has dropped for me of the 6 accounts I manage. That said, in two of these accounts I have all girls I can get for the worlds I have unlocked so I've been battling Finalmecia solely for the money (I got Miss Spook in one of these when I went back to Gruntt to try for her). In the other four I've been trying for girls as well as the money but with zero success so far. Usually when I make these kinds of post a girl drops for me almost straight away to make a liar of me so it might be some kind of anti-jinx. Here's hoping!

I thought so too until I tried it. I had to try something as I wasn't doing well enough. It all seems to depend on how good their secondary stats are. Players who try (say) Levitya as their alpha or beta girl in charm or know-how accounts soon discover how useless she is (I beat such players with her on their teams - even if she's at 4 or 5 stars - every time, not when she's in a hardcore team though!). In my know-how accounts (good enough to afford me the luxury of some experimentation) I had noticed the change straight away once I added Princess Noemy to my team. On the other hand, I wouldn't dream of adding Lenaelle to my team as she is first and foremost a charm girl with little value in other classes (despite her impressive attack power for charm at 5 stars). She is for charm as Levitya is for hardcore. I notice that charm players have yet to work out how best to use her on their teams, but they'll get there, I'm sure. While Bunny is hardcore, she is quite an all-rounder with value in the other classes, useful, since she's everyone's first girl and needed to cover other classes at start of players' teams (with only Bunny, Juliette, Red Battler and possibly Ankyo to choose from). Originally my know-how teams were all know-how (Samane at 4 stars, Princess Agate at 5 stars and Secretary Rabbi at 3 stars - a very common choice, too, among know-how opponents I noticed). I had a 55% battle success rate and this jumped to around 65% once Princess Noemy joined my team with no changes to my equipment - a control experiment, if you like. Call it coincidence if you like but it seems pretty compelling to me, especially when I watch the progress of battles as they take place. Against evenly matched opponents I often start off from behind and going backwards, but I catch up and pass them once Princess Noemy comes into play. Mind you, if, towards the end, I get hit with one of those 'wild bursts' and my opponent has 'reassurance' at the same time I can lose and, when this happens, I want to spit sparks! Luck in a tight battle is just that, even if it's bad! I notice a lot of players are using mixed class teams and many have been quite successful (Bunny is popular on a lot of teams outside of hardcore). It would seem, however, that some teams must've been backed up by top-notch equipment because, otherwise, their successes would have been surprising given the girls they used. Boosters never seem to make enough of a difference, even if epic items are used. Besides, they are very expensive to buy and have a limited life expectancy so I avoid them if I can unless I have accumulated enough from arena wins.

Yes, the whole thing is like an endless Boxing Day sale and it devalues the events. I'm now thinking twice about participating in the events for my hardcore accounts because I've noticed that, since the changes to the battle system, I've been left high and dry with my stats no longer good enough to beat the vast majority of opponents. For the first time I have had to buy equipment and, even then, the HC equipment on offer is seldom up to the mark and hardly ever includes much HC items anyway. Like a lot of other players, I was mesmerised by all the hype surrounding Levitya (the 'first legendary girl and a one-off, never to appear again'). I blame this situation on the fact that I have won so many event girls since Christmas in all my accounts and so, once Fairy had joined my harems, she had been so far down the list that the cost of upgrading her had been prophibitive. Nor was I able to get Levitya in either HC account. I admit I've been asleep at the wheel and not keeping my HC harems up to date as I should have. However, I've noticed that the opponents I had been able to beat close to my level have been HC without Levitya in their teams. Some have cleverly been bold enough to experiment with girls in other classes on their teams, but have needed good equipment to bolster their stats and competitiveness. None of this applies to my know-how accounts and I'm doing pretty well in the arena battles with my KH teams. I'm certainly up there in ranking. Furthermore, I discovered that Princess Noemy at 4 stars is awesome as a beta girl in know-how as she has pretty good know-how stats herself and she adds excellent charm defence. With the more prolonged nature of battles now (with more ego restoration now offered in Harmony from 'reassurance'), beta and omega girls have become truly important and once Princess Noemy comes on as beta I notice my attack hits picking up a lot, along with a reduction in the intensity of opponents' attacks. Once Kalissa is upgraded I suspect she would be much the same as she adds good know-how stats too. I don't have this luxury in my HC accounts as I have only Bunny (and Fairy at 4 stars) to offer support. I didn't get Justine or, as I said, Levitya so my HC teams are a bit deficient to say the least. Perverse as this sounds under the circumstances, I'm about to change my lowest know-how account to hardcore as this includes Levitya and I already have her on 4 stars in this account (she has no value as know-how). I've been steadily working on upgrading and leveling up the HC girls in my harem and saving HC equipment ready for the change. I'll get back on track with HC, but it's going to take me a long time to upgrade my HC girls in these two accounts or collect the right equipment because I was dumb enough to remain too complacent. I suspect Asta might be quite good as HC, but I have her sitting on her final star to upgrade her and a ton of books to have to buy to max out her XP. But then again, this may be wishful thinking. So it might pay me to focus on Fairy, use Abrael or Jennie more and hope like hell that a great HC girl might materialise in new events. Alternatively, HH might actually start listening to complaints of HC players and begin to redress the inherent unfairness of how class had been assigned to the existing world reward girls and how their battle stats (especially attack power) had been allocated to disadvantage HC teams.

Yeah, I did the same. I'm glad I did because after Day 3 for me the girls seemed to stop dropping. I'm glad I did get Hildr in the end, because I managed to max out her affection and her 3rd star profile image is something else. She's rather gorgeous! Anyway, congrats on getting both. Others haven't been so lucky this event and are starting to get really frustrated.

Actually, to be fair I do take your point. It is certainly like rubbing it in after the 2nd or even 5th day when so many people have failed to get anything so far after Day 10. I'm sorry if I annoyed you. I actually didn't mean it. This event has been awful for me and one know-how account I haven't had a single drop so far. I've never encountered this situation before and I've been playing since June last year. No doubt about it in my mind... the RNG has been 'nerfed' downwards and quite dramatically. I noticed this from Day 2 to 3 when previous to this I got Viola three times (and again on the 5th Day). Up to Day 3 I hadn't been trying for Hildr because I was focusing on Viola. Therefore, once I began trying for her in earnest, the drop rate had been lowered and Hildr proved much harder to prise loose from Dark Lord's clutches. I think my determination to get Hildr in a hardcore account was ill-founded because I don't think her stats are anything special (compared with, say, Edna or especially Justine). Mind you, what a gorgeous creature she is in her 3rd star profile image - good eye candy! I think Iron Viola may be promising in my know-how battle team.

Oh dear, I wondered how long it would be before you took the bait... Lol.

I know and I'm actually pulling your leg - joking. I was taken to task for using that word, but admittedly it was in Day 5 of that event so he had a point back then. It's now Day 10 of this event so I personally think your use of that word is quite appropriate. However, the gentleman in question may not share my tolerant attitude. I don't think he'll ever live it down!... Lol!

Oh, I mean to say that there's a certain gentleman (moderator in fact) who does not like our use of the word 'finally'. He might get grumpy and comment. Lol!

Yeah, her last affection profile image is quite different to the earlier ones and she actually looks feminine. Rather beautiful in fact. I agree with you about the drop rate and I'm not joking. They HAVE lowered it significantly and this happened from Day 2. I believe they lowered it more than even they had planned, given we are at Day 10 and a number of us have had no luck at all with either girl. If you get Viola (she is pretty and very cute) there are some things in her affection scenes that are interesting (I won't spoil it for you), but I congratulate the artist in his rather outrageous humour and originality.

I'd quite like to get this version of Judy Book, but I suspect I won't have enough kobans by the end to make a strong effort to get her in Epic Pachinko. She is seriously hot!

Oooh, you'll get told off for spoiling! Lol.

Yeah, haha. It's hard to keep up with 6 accounts, especially when the damn game hangs so often and I have a very tight deadline to complete the daily missions. Three of these accounts belong to two other people (females) who gave up playing and I didn't want to let good games go to waste. Yes, but I have to manage them strategically because I have a work life outside of Hentai Heroes as well as a household to manage. Because of where I live, the daily event mission starts mid afternoon and ends while I'm tucked up in bed asleep. This eats into a lot of the time I need to finish the twelve other missions, as well as the arena daily quests. Whereas, if the new mission started at bed time I could set them running, go to sleep and not lose too much time finishing the rest. But, oh well... I've become rather hooked on the game and that's not healthy. Maybe that's the problem you refer to, lol! The good side of it is that my chances of getting both girls in an event across all accounts is usually very high, plus I can compare how the drop rate is from event to event (and the drop rate for this event does seem to have been dropped well below normal from Day 2 of the event). Gee though... that's rotten luck for you. I'm really sorry to read that you missed out on the 12 daily event missions. Yes, you can only afford to lose 2 days to get Captain Haremverse, plus the kobans you lose out on for Epic Pachinko or however you choose to use them. It's a real bummer when that happens. It happened to me twice when I had to be away for conferences and to take the family on holiday away from wifi, so I know your frustration. We also had a two-day power cut here that stuffed my chances in the daily missions and contests. These timed deadline games can be a problem to manage, but the time with family and away from this cursed game was great and I was able to start living again. I hope you get one (or especially both) girls before the end, though, and you have 5 days left to do it.

No, not in this account. I removed all the cookies and restarted the game, but no luck. I'll try in my hardcore accounts where I was unsuccessful and spent kobans for nothing. They might take pity one me.

I'd say she's hardcore (or maybe her stats are (uniquely) the same across all three classes. What's the betting (in the unlikely event I actually get her) she drops for me in my know-how account. That's how it was with Justine for me. Yes, she is droppable, no arguing, but Jessie was being a bit ambiguous in her claims. Was it the same drop rate as for regular random drops or for event random drops? If it's the former I for one don't expect to get her before the event ends based on past experience. While I've had a lot more success against Dark Lord than other trolls, in some cases I got some of the regular girls very late in the peace while I was trying for earlier event girls like Loving Lupa, Val Red Battler or Spring Shehera. Reading these posts, however, indicates they have more than a hint of desperation about them and they're coming in thick and fast. She's just a girl and not a real one at that...

Have you all had any luck getting that girl yet? It's very early days I know, but we have only three of these! Someone, somewhere must've scored... I broke my own rule of not using kobans to recharge combativity and I just did - accross all my accounts. I wanted to test whether the drop rate for this girl has been lowered when compared with other event girls and so I bought an extra recharge (between 30 and forty battles depending on where combativity was at the time) for each account. For the last three events I have generally got a girl off Dark Lord fairly early on and in one or two accounts at the first round, but not this time. It was like battling Dark Lord with no girls to collect. Here I am, sitting in front of the computer screen clicking away at the mouse like some zombie in front of a pokie machine, thinking that the next time she'll drop but she never does... a sad case of gambler's addiction behaviour. However, I'll let the combativity recharge naturally for all accounts from now on and wait the 10 hours to try again because I still want a decent crack at Epic Pachinko. In two accounts I have no regular random drop girls left to collect so all that remain in EP are the exclusives. I have a strong feeling my hunch is correct... that the drop rate is about the same as for a regular random drop, or maybe lower. This means that, on average, I might go through the entire three days with no success. BUT... we'll see. As I said once, the great thing about pessimism is the pleasant surprise we invariably get if things work out better than expected, whereas the sad thing about optimism is the crushing disappointment we experience when our hopes are dashed. I still hope to get this girl in one of the accounts I play (thanks largely to te cooperation of my female crew in this household who let me play through their emails - thanks girls!). That 'succubus' cum angel looks rather lucious and appealing and I want to see whether she lives up to all the hype - IF I get her, that is. I have only her to battle for against Dark Lord cos I've cleaned him out of all his other girls in every account.

to CharlesFrances. That's real droll and I appreciate the almost British humour. Sure, I thought critical damage was all about luck, too (and originally it was defined by a four-leaf clover icon). However, that doesn't explain why I get pounded by critical damage against some opponents and not others, even though mine is maxed out at 25%. Similarly, I'm able to inflict critical damage against some opponents quite regularly and beat them (when I shouldn't have been able to). I just don't get it and I'm missing something. You're right about luck. And there's a timing element to beating or losing against opponents. I might be well enough in front to win and we are having a critical damage war, but if my opponent's alpha or beta is about to orgasm and he gets in a critical damage blow just prior, I get beaten. When this happens I want to smash something because it's pure luck. On the other hand I've won in the same way when I shouldn't have.

Yep, spells out my point nicely and more succinctly.

I take your point but I'm referring to the potentially five star girls. And (if you count Kalissa who will be 5 stars very soon) the roll call is: Charm 6 Hardcore 3 Know-how 3. Fairy, at 5 stars, was recently upgraded but only up to the level of Princess Agate. Why she wasn't taken up to an attack power of over 11k like Samane and Abraël I have no idea because that would have been the fair thing to do, from the perspective of balance alone. Furthermore, Jennie maxed out pays out an amazing 16k so she is 'charmed' all around. I don't know how much Samane would pay out because I haven't maxed her out yet (I need 19m to do this). Because most of us get Abraël fairly early on in the game the cost of upgrading her isn't so daunting as it is (say) Samane or Fairy so this is a level of unfairness for a start. I noticed in the arena that most successful hardcore opponents still use Bunny maxed out at 5 stars as their alpha. That's because she's a great all-rounder with impressive defense, and because few girls have been available to replace her. Some are starting to use Fairy but, so far anyway, this has not been so successful for them. Most of the good 3-star hardcore and know-how girls were of limited availability (eg events or epic pachinko) so I didn't count them because not all players would have had the opportunity to get them. For instance, I have the original Justine (great hardcore stats), but she dropped for me in my know-how game only. Therefore, she's of little value. I didn't get her in my hardcore game so I was a bit browned off about that. I can't complain too much, though, because Edna is a star as my beta girl and has saved my butt too many times to recall, despite having a relatively low ego that should mean I get beaten most of the time - but I don't. For know-how players, much has been said about the greatness of Summer Red Battler, but there's something not right about her. Her battle stats seem great on paper, but I seem to be able to inflict a lot of critical damage against her and, more times than not, I beat opponents with her as alpha, or when she comes on as beta this is when I overtake opponents with a significant lead. I often lose against opponents with 5-star Abraël and Flight Attendant as alpha and beta respectively, or against hardcore opponents with Bunny and Justine as alpha and beta respectively, even if their ego is 5-10k lower than mine. I have the same issue with Kelina. On paper her stats seem significantly better than Sailor Celsius', but she didn't work out as expected and went back to Sailor Celsius as my top girl for my newest game. If you can tell me why this might be I'd appreciate it. It might have something to do with excitement because I notice the excitement bar races for (say) Flight Attendant and Zoe compared with my alpha. Haha, maybe I'm just not that great at bringing her to orgasm and I need some serious training in the Karma Sutra... or perhaps if I were bit more attractive!!

Looks like the Legendary Days event(?) will begin for me tomorrow (since it's late Wednesday morning here). Can't wait (with a slight hint of sarchasm). Anyway, I finally got Lenaëlle. And, yes, bloody hell(!), she's charm. How do HH consider this even remotely balanced, especially with respect to hardcore players? Sure Lenaëlle fits charm well, but, if HH want to use this line of reasoning, how does Abraël fit charm? She's a succubus, for goodness sake, and she better fits hardcore or know-how! And given how Juliette loves to suck cock from the word go and seems to be into total weirdness, she would best fit hardcore, not charm. So any idea that HH might have tried to match specialty class to the girls' characters is abject nonsense. I'd be interested to see if this new girl we may be lucky enough to add to our harem is charm too. If she is, then it will confirm to me that HH's idea of balance has gone right out the door. In the harem battles I have noticed a steady increase in the proportion of charm opponents I battle and I put it down to players having the attitude of "If you can't beat them join them" and have changed their former classes to charm. If just about everyone ends up switching to charm then this makes a mockery of the game and the specialty class system that has been created. That inane dominance triangle system further favours charm and if non-charm players beat someone of the same rank they don't get as much mojo than they lose if they lose to these same opponents. Of course, if just about everyone changes to charm then the dominance system becomes pointless. I can't figure the fairness of this system at all and, furthermore, I can't see how, if I lose to a player who has 20k more ego then me and is at 10-15 higher level than me (a higher rank in other words), it might cost me 31 mojo points for my inevitable loss. I'm almost forced to play such opponents unless I pay 24 kobans to take my chances that I'll get a favourable manual refresh, or wait half an hour. I just don't battle these opponents and will wait half an hour for a refresh if (as so often happens) all three opponents are unbeatable. If the opponents were at the same or similar level as me and yet much more competitive, this I can accept. Fair's fair and I'm simply not good enough (which is often the case until I can upgrade Samane to her fifth star). Now, I've been a moaning minnie so I'll leave others to quote me and shoot me down in flames, or perhaps (surprise, surprise) agree with me.

I'm wondering about the legendary aspect myself. There is a hint in the promotion that she'll drop as that menacing shadowy silhouette as normal but will remain a silhouette until maybe her first affection star. Am I right? I don't see the big deal with her being 5 stars from the outset. If I win her, because of her place in my harem, she will be outside my capacity to upgrade her beyond 3 stars. I'd rather have seen Lenaelle start off as a 5 star option with Kalissa right on her heals. This will make all those charmers happy and hardcore players, especially, very miserable and hard done by because apparently Lenaelle is charm. That will mean that the world reward 5-star charm girls will number 6, with 3 know-how and 3 hardcore girls. This is hugely unfair and I'm wondering how on earth the balancing of the specialty classes in this game was decided. Or is there some mad-Romero conspiracy to have every player switch to charm? There seem to be an awful lot of them in the arena already and I usually get beaten by them. In the Juy Sea, already a dog of a world from a know-how player perspective, there are two charm and two hardcore girls. On top of that, to rub salt into the wounds, the cost of advancing through the first three quests of this world is extortionate and beyond funny. I think the writers had a bit of a chuckle at our misery and I think this world is where the pro-charm conspiracy really started to show. I'd like to have seen a focus on upgrading more random drop girls to 5 stars rather than this new girl to try to balance out the frequency of each specialty class that currently runs heavily in favour of charm. If that particularly non-aerodynamic-looking angel is charm then I will truly spit tacks and it will prove my point!!!!(!)

Donatien, on lvl 73, has just dropped Kelina for me in one of my games. I'm at lvl 94. I'd been battling him after the Valentine's Day event ended since he was on lvl 56 and this has been my first success. I should say that I had Val Abraël drop in that game into the 5th day of the event so I returned to battle Donatien immediately after for the last two and a bit days, plus today. I also had 4 extra battles because I scored 2 lots of 2 combativity points in the arena battles. This drop rate is about average for me. Having had Kelina drop may increase my chances of getting one or both of the remaining girls.

Update... Donatien on lvl 73 has just dropped Kelina for me in one of my games. I'd been battling him after the Valentine's Day event ended since he was on lvl 56 and this has been my first success. Pity I didn't get Pelagie, though, because I'm hardcore in that game and she's a great beta girl (not as good as Edna, but I'm nowhere near this world yet, unless I win her in Epic Pachinko, as I did in another game). Still, Cupid-chan is pretty good as beta. This drop rate is about average for me. Having has Kelina drop may increase my chances of getting one or both of the remaining girls.

Like many of you, I was grumpy to the max until I did an analysis on the girls I've got. In this account (my oldest game) I have all but 2 trolls' girls yet to collect (Rumiko and Bonny). I'm on Lvl 194 and have 52 girls, having started in June last year, but I only began to play the game seriously from September, not really taking part in events. In the game I started not long after I'm on lvl 193 and have 53 girls, but I have 5 trolls' girls yet to collect. The difference here is that I have had more success winning event girls and especially from Epic Pachinko. I have won three girls in Epic Pachinko in that game compared with none in this account, plus one more event girl (I didn't manage to have Val Abraël drop for this account). In my newer games I've had about the same ratio of success. In the newest I'm on lvl 82 and have 26 girls, but the drop rate has been no better. Of the girls my stage in the game allows me to collect, I have four girls left (Rumiko, Miss Spook, Regine and Jeanne). The pattern has been the same as my most advanced games, except that in these two games I got all the girls from Donatien on, but in my third game (lvl 179, started in September, and 49 girls) I have two girls to collect from Sylvanus, one to collect from Donatien, as well as 1 from Edwarda and 2 from Gruntt. So there has been a shift in a lack of comparative success to the middle worlds in that game whereas I cleaned out the middle and later worlds in my two oldest games. It was in this third game, however, that I started to gain the most success of all my games in event girl drops beginning with Justine and carrying on to both Mala and Gork in Dark Fantasies. This success has continued ever since. I have had less success in Epic Pachinko with only one exclusive girl (Shao) as well as Cunegonde (long before I could have won her from Bremen). There is surely a randomness to this and, when I factor in the almost extreme patchiness I experience in the drop rate from event to event (at different times for different accounts), it is likely that the success across all my games will eventually even out. In my third game, in Epic Pachinko I've had no success from single plays, other than Vashalanor, but next event things might be different. I might have saved up enough kobans for 10 plays in each game by then anyway. Right now I have quite enough girls in my harems in my three oldest games as I need to focus on upgrading them (especially Samane). This is dauntingly expensive and, with the slowing of the recharge rate for combativity from the equivalent of 1 battle every 20min to 1 battle every 30min it is harder to earn money in this way, until I max out the trolls' levels (at which stage I may lose against the ones from later worlds anyway). There is an ever so slight consolation to this in the daily arena battle rewards. Sometimes for 8 wins we get 2 combativity points. In one case, this let me win Val Abraël when I otherwise mightn't have since I won her in the 20th battle that round. Add to these woes the temptation posed whenever a new event starts and I despair of ever having enough willpower to resist trying for event girls and focusing on earning money in order to upgrade Samane and Noemy! Psychologically they seem so out of reach. It's like trying to save up to buy Buckingham Palace!

There might be two reasons for the 503 Server Error... (1) extreme data traffic pressure on the HH server from heavy use. I've noticed this from time to time. At one stage it was really bad and the game ran painfully slow, often displaying the above error or 'server not found' after nearly every attempted action. Even refreshing the page didn't get rid of the 503 error so we were essentially shut out of the game. HH actually closed the game down for a while to completely upgrade the system and server. They released news on this problem and the upgrade fixed it. This was the price we paid for a very popular, much played game. (2) Clutter on our own systems might play a part. I used to get these 503 errors a lot and the game would run slow, especially while I was in the harem. I was also locked out of the forum frequently. I then did a clean up of my browser (Firefox), got rid of all those annoying ad and tracking cookies and cleared the cache. The problem resolved itself. I get 503 errors occasionally, but refreshing the page almost always resolves the problem and lets me resume the game. I now carry out browser housekeeping on a regular basis.

Oh dear, you're about as sad and pathetic as I am! When I fell off my chair (because of the shock of having Salem drop) and hurt my shoulder I've had trouble sleeping so I play HH - a lot!!! As this might imply, I went for over a week following the patch update without any joy whatsoever, so Salem (of all girls) dropping was, indeed, a hellava shock. As well as the receding dark silhouette merging to become the statueseque and stunningly beautiful, darkly-attired Salem, this perked me up no end, but it left me with a lasting shoulder injury. After Salem dropped, the drop rate for other girls inceased a little after that. I have to add, too, I've never bought kobans and I've never used them for anything other than Epic Pachinko, once I started playing it. Before that I used them to restock the shops while I was flush with cash, but had cleaned out the gift shop. In this account (started in June last year) I have 52 girls (I have all but two of the troll girls, but with fewer event girls having dropped than in my other game of similar age). Indeed, this was the only account where I failed to get both Valentine event girls off trolls. In that other game (also started in June last year) I have 53 girls, but I have yet to get the remaining 5 troll girls, which means I have 1 more event girl, plus 3 exclusive and event Epic Pachinko girls as compared with none in this the most advanced of my games. I have to say, though, that I seem to have just as much difficulty winning girls in my later games as the oldest ones. In my third game I have 49 girls (at level 178) and have just about every droppable event girl since I started playing seriously from February (I actually started the game in September). I have yet to get the last 6 regular troll girls. Each game seems to be on a par re. drop rate for girls. I thought as you did at first, but analysing it more I no longer think it's true that the drop rate falls right off once we get to 40 or more girls. I'll tell you why... In my newest game I have 26 girls and I found it just as hard to get girls to drop than my three oldest games. Indeed, when I think about it, I despaired that I would ever get Val Abraël or Val Red Battler to drop, but they dropped in relatively quick succession on the fifth day of the event. I did find, however, that the earliest trolls gave up their girls more easily than from Gruntt on. In another game I have 28 girls, but I've had a bit of luck in Epic Pachinko in that game winning four girls by playing this. Indeed, I used my bonus starter of kobans to try a single play in Epic Pachinko and won Gossy! If I were to factor this success in and deduct it from the overall result, in this game I'm doing worse than in my newest game for random drops, but I didn't start it that much earlier (or rather, the two females in this household started these games around the same time and I took over from them). In the end, I have to conclude it's down to luck, with extreme patchiness of success a confusing factor for me and I can only tell how well I'm really doing by going back and analysing it.