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I noticed in another post that someone questioned the logic behind what they could win at "Epic Pachinko" and I thought the conversation was amusing to say the least.

Now I'm certain that we all understand that a random number generator and complex algorithm are what determines what you either win or don't win playing the pachinko games and/or boss drops or anything else that's a game of chance. For the nay-sayers, yes, I know it's electronic, and yes, it's true chance, just like the electronic slot machines in Vegas, Atlantic City, Monte Carlo or anywhere else are; here however is my little problem with the whole set-up.

A poster questioned if it was possible to win more than one girl at Epic Pachinko playing ten games for 5400 Kobans and a moderator (I think, maybe an advanced member, I can't recall) stated that they couldn't win more than one girl when playing ten games at a time because it was a "guaranteed win" of one girl. SO... By THAT line of thinking, you're not really playing a "game of chance" as it were, you're just buying a girl for roughly $35.00, (Based off Koban prices in real world cash) now the same responder (moderator/advanced member) did state that you could always play ten single games and win no girl at all or play ten single games and win ten girls. (Highly unlikely... If anyone ever does it, I'd like video proof because I need to talk to you about buying my Powerball tickets.)

Now as I stated before, games of pure chance are a pretty neat, exciting, adrenaline rush. Paying for ten games of chance at a time, thinking you're getting ten games of chance but not really getting ten games of chance... That's a little shady. Better to just call it what it is, make a spot in the Market (or the game table) to "Win a Random Girl - 5000 Kobans." (Could be a Common, Rare, Epic or Legendary) THAT would be a game of chance, not to mention truth in advertising. (Stick it in between the Pachinko Machines and have it look like a slot machine window)

Of course you always COULD make, "Ten games for 5400 Kobans" true chance and have the possibility, however highly unlikely; to win ten girls, ten legendary items or ten legendary gifts at the ten games. After all what's the fun of playing poker if you never even had the chance draw a natural Royal Flush, right?

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I do agree that it does say that you will win a girl and legendary item, but what I doesn't say is that you won't win other of the same!

basically you will win the girl and legendary item but you could also win more girls and/or legendary items. so I'd say that it is possible to win them! if any disagrees then they will have to come up with a good explanation as to why this is wrong

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It would be nice if it was edited to one girl only under the 10 times spin not to confuse new players thinking that they can get more than one.
I have won 3 girls in 8 spins of epic pachinko before but I have also gone more than 30 single spins without winning one so it is very much luck based and the drop rate would be below 10% so it is a more worthwhile use of kobans just doing the 10 times spin and getting one to drop.

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I nosed around and found the original posting about it... I was correct in it alluding to the idea that you will only win ONE girl for a 10x Epic Pachinko for 5400 Kobans.

Would it be possible to have a DEVELOPER please verify the facts?

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19 minutes ago, Kuradur said:

I nosed around and found the original posting about it... I was correct in it alluding to the idea that you will only win ONE girl for a 10x Epic Pachinko for 5400 Kobans.

Would it be possible to have a DEVELOPER please verify the facts?

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You only get one girl from doing 10 times epic pachinko no one has ever gotten more than one girl from it in the 2 years the game has been out for.
I have done over 50 spins of 10 times epic pachinko and have always only gotten one as well.
 

The reason that you only get one is because no one would do single epic pachinko spins because they risk getting no girl by doing 10 single spins of epic pachinko.

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20 minutes ago, Kuradur said:

Would it be possible to have a DEVELOPER please verify the facts

possible? sure, anything's possible in a long enough timeline

probable? LOL

you're on the wrong forum if you want a dev to confirm this. they don't visit the English forum. they visit the French forum and the Discord channel

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There is no need for them to confirm it here again, because this question has been answered by them long ago already, and players like me are here to give you the information they gave.

It is not possible to get more than 1 girl from the 10x epic pachinko game.

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Thanks to everyone for putting in their two cent's worth of information about my question. If nothing else, at least there are logical answers to the question. Still seems like you're "buying" a new girl, not "winning" one, but, c'est la vie.

At any rate, I wasn't trying to downplay anybody's contributions to the forums by asking if it were possible to get a developer's input, be they an "Advanced Member," "Moderator" or whatever title they have from having answered people's (sometimes repetitive apparently) queries about different aspects of the game, I was always taught if you wanted an answer from the horse, you asked the head end, not the tail. :D

Again, thanks to all for taking the time for all the input and information, it is appreciated. :)

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2 minutes ago, Kuradur said:

Thanks to everyone for putting in their two cent's worth of information about my question. If nothing else, at least there are logical answers to the question. Still seems like you're "buying" a new girl, not "winning" one, but, c'est la vie.

At any rate, I wasn't trying to downplay anybody's contributions to the forums by asking if it were possible to get a developer's input, be they an "Advanced Member," "Moderator" or whatever title they have from having answered people's (sometimes repetitive apparently) queries about different aspects of the game, I was always taught if you wanted an answer from the horse, you asked the head end, not the tail. :D

Again, thanks to all for taking the time for all the input and information, it is appreciated. :)

This gets asked a lot but if they just changed what was said for the 10 times epic pachinko spin to say that you get 1 girl only it would not need to be asked so until the change that the question will keep on being asked.
 

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I thought it was minimum 1 girl before coming to forum, not a flat rate. The normal pachinko says 1 rare guaranteed, yet can give more than 1 rare, so its an obvious conclusion to draw and very misleading.   

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9 hours ago, Chthugha said:

 

It is not possible to get more than 1 girl from the 10x epic pachinko game.

When Chuck Norris spins epic Panchinko, he gets 10 girls for a single 1X spin.

While counting to infinity twice and smashing Thor's hammer with a mighty round house kick.

True story.

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12 hours ago, natstar said:

You only get one girl from doing 10 times epic pachinko no one has ever gotten more than one girl from it in the 2 years the game has been out for.
I have done over 50 spins of 10 times epic pachinko and have always only gotten one as well.
 

The reason that you only get one is because no one would do single epic pachinko spins because they risk getting no girl by doing 10 single spins of epic pachinko.

I dunno on that last part Natstar… I would think the possibility of getting ten for ten (rare as that would be) would increase the number of single games a given person would play vs playing a ten-shot simply from knowing that there's the possibility of winning at a game of chance as opposed to shelling out for ten games and getting a sure win only once. (I avoid casinos; I understand myself. LOL) From my own perspective, I have to say that if I had won three of eight times, I'd probably not bat an eye at losing the next thirty, just from the rush of the idea I just might do it again. (Which again, is why I avoid casinos like the palgue. LMAO! :D)

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2 hours ago, Ben9 said:

I thought it was minimum 1 girl before coming to forum, not a flat rate. The normal pachinko says 1 rare guaranteed, yet can give more than 1 rare, so its an obvious conclusion to draw and very misleading.   

 

Again now, adding another two cents worth, this is just my perspective, but since I don't buy bulk Kobans per se, I earn then over time, playing the daily activities, completing the "Special Activities" of a given event and occasionally place high enough in contests to pick up a few here and there so I like the "Best Bang for the Buck."

Now before anyone starts rolling their eyes and grumbling, "Mother-f****r in here complaining when he doesn't even pay to play," I buy my monthly card, thank you, and I think for the price of $2.99 USD it's a damned good bargain. So during a thirty day period I rake in 6300 Kobans (60 a day from the card plus 150 a day from the activities times thirty days) and that doesn't include anything I might squeeze out of Special Events, so yeah I could get at least one guaranteed girl a month, but c'mon,... Where's the rush in that? (Please reference my Casino comment from earlier. LOL) 

All that being said, I do have to agree with Ben9 that it's poorly worded and misleading; probably unintentional, but misleading.

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3 minutes ago, Kuradur said:

Je devrais peut-être jouer la version française comme le fait mon cousin canadien. LOL :D

tsk tsk, that's French on the English part of the forum :P

Maybe I should move this comment to the French part of the forum :ph34r:

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perhaps someone should re-write a few

Just now, Chthugha said:

tsk tsk, that's French on the English part of the forum :P

Maybe I should move this comment to the French part of the forum :ph34r:

either that or translate everything in the French part of the forum!:P

 

11 minutes ago, Chthugha said:

I'm somehow missing something though...

Everything in this game is poorly worded when it comes to the English version xD
This is no exception :D

I agree!o.O who ever made this game should have checked to make sure that it was worded correctly!:ph34r:

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Okay... Okay... The French was done "Tongue in Cheek" 9_9 Cut a brother some slack for an attempt at humor. (Ne sois pas un tel bâton dans la boue. LOL)

I do have to agree with the idea that translation does leave something to be desired every now and again, but English leaves a lot open too, and not always open well... My cousin from London couldn't understand why the bar got quiet when he visited here in Missouri because he blurted out, "I'm gon run t'the back and suck down a fag before we take off, aright?" (I thought we were going to have to fight our way out. :D)  

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2 hours ago, Some other guy said:

When Chuck Norris spins epic Panchinko, he gets 10 girls for a single 1X spin.

While counting to infinity twice and smashing Thor's hammer with a mighty round house kick.

True story.

 

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2 hours ago, Chthugha said:

I'm somehow missing something though...

Everything in this game is poorly worded when it comes to the English version xD
This is no exception :D

The difference, from my perspective anyway, is that the story or missions etc being poorly worded isn't important and is even quite funny sometimes.  But when paying for something, having a poorly worded description of whatever you're purchasing is a different thing altogether.  Thats why consumer rights (in UK at least) cover this exact thing, its easy to scam people with vagueness and inaccuracy (I'm not suggesting thats happening here).

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