Peregrine Took

The good news is I'm starting to get back to the land of the living and interacting with other people again instead of being stuck in this game like some pathetic addict! With the changes, I initially thought they were an improvement and I was widely accused as being an apologist for HH. Now I'm far less sure. Indeed, I think some important aspects of the game have diminished in enjoyment. Re. drops not happening, I don't think it's a bug. As I had said, I think the probability algorithm has been altered to lower our chances of having a girl drop at each victory. Just because we have 1 1/2 times more opportunities per 20 combativity units than before over a set time period, doesn't improve our chances, even if we like to think so. I think the game developers have lowered the probability to reflect the belief that we have more battles per hour against the trolls and, thus, our chances of a drop have fallen accordingly. I know I'm speculating here, but it sure feels like it!

Since the update, zero in all my games. The best luck I had was getting Virginia and Bass in Epic Pachinko - separate games however. I'm more certain than ever that the probability algorithm has been adjusted. There is a gambling myth (statistically erroneous) that increasing the opportunity for drops (ie 1 1/2 more chances per round) increases the probability of having a drop happen. This is not correct and the word 'probability' is important here; the probability is the same for each win in the battle because, in most games of chance, the system resets each play. It doesn't somehow remember how many battles we had without a drop and then take pity on us by increasing our chances. I mentioned this because I suspect the game developers might have halved the probability of a drop in a misguided belief (or more likely a spin to us gullible fools) that this is in adjustment for the fact that we now have twice as many opportunities per round (20/20 as opposed to 10/20 before the patch). But then, too, the recharge rate for each unit of combativity has not increased to 20min, rather 30min, diddling us out of available time to do battle. Having said all that, I have very patchy luck in this game; some events great success (over most of my accounts), or abysmal failure to have any drops take place at all (even event girls). However, it does seem a coincidence, doesn't it, that I was ticking along quite nicely before the patch only to hit a brick wall since. Yes, I believe something external to my luck has happened this time.

That's the way Epic Pachinko has been set up for as long as I've been playing. It's the luck of the draw. The only event girls I ever got in Pachinko were Gaelle (Sports Event) and Winter Sophie (Winter Chill). The rest have been exclusives (for me, Princess Tiana, Gossy, Shao, Liu-yeng and Sailor Celsius), or otherwise random drop girls like Pelagie, Eugenie, Marina, Cunegonde, Stephanie and Bonny. I should point out that this has been over several accounts. The list would be a whole lot shorter (if existing at all) if I had only one account. This might be a clue to what you could do to broaden your chances. Operate more than one account.

It's a free game, but HH need to make money to pay staff, etc. There are still lots of choices of how to spend money and use the money won from the trolls or income from your girls. HH are not being especially pushy or coercive, playing to our gambling addictions like some games I could name, but won't. I've had the same with Pachinko. In one event it's a dead loss then the next one it's pure gold. Yes, I've had troll girls drop, but, if they were from world's I haven't even got to yet, they proved handy before I got there, such as winning Pelagie in my hardcore game.

Good going! You may notice some changes in battling Finalmecia. People are moaning about it, but, in effect, the combativity has changed from 1 point refresh every 10min to the equivalent of 1 every 15min because we get twice as many chances to defeat the trolls per round. But for those at max combativity points (20), at 10 hours per refresh from zero we get the chance to do other things, lol (oh, unless we spend 24 kobans to refresh it ourselves)! Payout has halved per victory, however, to reflect the fact that we get twice the chances against them. It works out the same overall. In my newest game I finally(!) got Loving Lupa after grinding and grinding without success since the start of the game. Have you noticed that there is a blue dot beside each girl in your harem who is on her green upgrade button? If you have no girls ready to upgrade yet, take a look when you do. This wasn't mentioned in the patch notes, but it is a great innovation. We can see at a glance now who we have to upgrade and we don't get sidetracked so easily by forgetting who needs upgrading and, therefore, spending money elsewhere in the meantime.

Will that mean she has better know-how defense when using her in hardcore?

Ooh, what does that say!? Haha.

Thanks for that, but in one game I have nothing too. I've been grinding away almost non-stop with no luck. It's damn annoying, 'specially since I had Kimie drop while trying for Lupa and Sung Tai ki drop while trying for Bunny. That's how it goes. The good news (if there is any) for that game is that I'm only Gruntt in that game so it hasn't cost me too much to go back and try for the two event girls. As we're not even half way through yet, it is still too early to give up. Otherwise, I must confess it's been my most successful event yet with Pachinko still to try for.

Yes, me too. I've been saving my kobans since foregoing the last two events for Epic Pachinko and I should have enough near the end for a x10 play this time, but I'm weighing up whether I do a x10 or 10 separate plays because I was very successful in the past with single plays and got two girls in successive drops last time.

Yes, the cynic in me sees an enticement to buy combativity points. The optimist in me sees a definite improvement and much earlier I posted the recommendation that challenging the villains should be more challenging with beating them becoming harder as one's own level increases. I think overall it is a definite improvement, but the proof of the pudding... Re. PVP battles, one of the gripes I had was that I was sometimes expected to battle opponents that had a much higher ego than me - all three. I could sometimes beat them if I bought boosters and I would have a fair chance if their battle stats were significantly lower than mine (notably attack power and critical damage). My choice of beta and omega girls became very important in this case. If the opponents I'd defeated become out of bounds the choices become less and it sounds like the choice screen does not refresh to two new players leaving us to battle the one remaining. In a way, though, these changes will make us work and think harder and that would be a good thing.

Well done! I'm not sure you're allowed to say 'finally'. A particular person will growl at you. Lol! Yes, with 8-9 days to go, like me, you can go back to the main task of battling in your current world - more income from winning battles and the chance to have regular girls drop, if you haven't already got them all. And the chance to compete in some of the contests again. Big changes coming, though - probably Wednesday if consistent with the timing of releases to date. In a nutshell, battles against trolls will become more challenging and combativity recharge will be A LOT slower, but you will get twice the opportunities for combat in each round. It looks like you have Empress Tsubame as your alpha girl. What a gorgeous creature she is! She is one my wish list for Epic Pachinko, even though I'm not charm. So lucky you!

Haha, yes. Hey, I can't count. There are 9 days to go, not 7. I only looked at the top of the screen and read 4 out of 12 completed daily missions when there are 14 all up. I knew that, but I was just careless.

Well, grind, grind and grind, but not bad after 4 days and into the 5th - 7 to go. I now have both girls. This is the game I inherited from my flatmate after she became utterly bored with it - shame to let a good game go to waste. "She" is poignant. The females I know don't tend to see the point in this game - surprise surprise! But she was curious as to why I would suddenly leap up with my fist in the air when a girl dropped for me. So she had to have a go, so I set up an account for her. I now have her game and she gets all the emails as a result of this forum engagement. She's not impressed! Anyway... Bunny has just this moment dropped which means I can get back to the task of battling Finalmecia to get Salem and Edna. Because I'm know-how in this game these two girls are not as valuable as Zoe who dropped much earlier in this world. This has been a very successful event for yours truly. It makes up for a lousy showing last event when I only got 1 out of 3 (Spring).

Yes, your detailed reply is exactly right. The know-how girl with the best battle stats in that specialty was available only in Epic Pachinko and only once for a 14 day event. If they bring her back that will probably be in my Spring (Autumn in the north) for a Sports revival. I don't really want to whinge about it, but facts are facts. As a know-how player, I'm grateful to have the opportunity to upgrade Samane and, furthermore, with the recalculation of the proportionate costs of her upgrade, she's not beyond my reach, unlike Abraël. This whole discussion has become both arcane and esoteric to most players reading this.

Okay.

There are a lot better than Ankyo for hardcore. I maxed her affection because she pays well. You are right about the lower grades for charms vs hardcore, but this does not apply to the maxed out affections. Now charm have Noemy - not right up there but pretty good. The good news about Noemy for me (as know-how) is that her defense for me is pretty good and I might even try her on my team when she's finally upgraded. But I'm focusing on Samane right now. This game requires a lot of discipline and patience, doesn't it. That is part of its appeal to me. We are forced to make choices - such as what to do about the Juy Sea. In my hardcore game, do I let go trying to advance through this world and the ridiculous costs of buying items to move through the quests or do I upgrade my girls? For the moment anyway, I've chosen the latter. I'll get back to The Juy Sea at some stage once I've maxed enough girls for the moment because the annoying demands on my cash really only apply to the second quest, A Glutton's Tears. In the remaining quests costs are little worse than for other worlds.

Fairy is a mission girl (assuming you mean world reward). She's guaranteed when you complete The Magic Forest so she's next in line after Samane - apart from Jennie. It would be unfair on hardcore to up Jennie to 5 stars yet given how well off charm players are and how relatively badly off hardcore players are in comparison.

No, not in my advanced game, I have Noemy and Samane to upgrade now. Noemy is sitting on her final upgrade button, but she'll have to wait til I upgrade Samane because I'm know-how. Samane is sitting on her 4 star upgrade button. For these reasons I'll keep battling Finalmecia cos a win against her pays best.

There's the money aspect. I have all Finalmecia's girls in my most advanced game, but it's handy battling her to buy and accumulate gifts and books to upgrade a future acquisition or (in my case) Samane who now has a five star upgrade potential. I also still have Marina to win off Bremen. To upgrade Samane to 4 stars is not going to be too hard it seems.

Sorry, I misread you. Yes, that's quite a bit for upgrading her to 4 stars. I'm about to upgrade Samane to 4 stars and this will cost me 2.7m, quite reasonable really and I'll do it in only two more rounds of battles and collecting income from my harem - easy peesy. I'll go back to battling Finalmecia for this purpose, even though I have no more girls to collect from her. Sorry Noemy; you'll have to wait on your 5 star upgrade button a bit longer as I'm know-how and Samane is worth it more.

That's incredibly cheap! You're new to the game, I take it, so you haven't got that many girls before Abraël. It's going to cost me 8.6m to upgrade her to 4 stars so I'm not going to bother. In another game try 13.8m to upgrade her to 5 stars! It's plain ridiculous! Unless I find a way of making or extorting more money she will stay on the green upgrade button for both games, especially since I'm know-how in both games. For the life of me I don't know why I bothered to try to upgrade her in the first place when I neglected upgrades for more deserving haremettes. In another game I did manage to max out her affection. If your specialty is charm I suggest you save your pennies NOW to upgrade her ASAP because her charm battle stats and defense are outstanding. Don't get sidetracked by spending on upgrading other girls' affection until you've maxed out Abraël, apart from upping their XP to max. You'll need to do this to remain competitive in arena battles and against bosses early on. 5 star Abraël pays out pretty well too, but not on a par with Agate. A feature of this game is that the more girls you have, the more they pay out in total and if you max out their affection levels they pay out proportionately more. The downside is that, with current ways the game is structured, the further down a girl is on your harem list (ie, acquired later) the greater it costs to upgrade her affection. This is especially true for girls that have been adjusted to 5 stars and is a reason for all the disgruntled comments in costs of having to upgrade Abraël since she's last girl (according to her place in the game - World 5) to be adjusted up. Kinkoid announced that this onerous aspect of upgrading affection is to be rebalanced, but it has to remain fair and has to reflect the fact that those with big harems get a larger total payout from their girls.

Fairy should be next on the list and her 3 star battle stats aren't bad at all. She should be able to knock Bunny off her perch at 5 stars. I tend to agree that hardcore players are currently hard done by in comparison with charm especially with know-how to be in the running with the release of 5 star Samane imminent.

Yes it was. We might also get a chance to win Secretary Rabbi if you were too late to get her last time - if they include her in the revival. If you are know-how, her battle stats are fantastic and her defense stats are reasonable if not great, but she kick-asses so well you probably won't need much defense with her. This is also the hottest form of her - really stunning and affection scenes from another planet!

She sure looks like a Bratz doll. Not sure which one of the three though.

The one that got away for me was Bodybuilder Elyzabeth. I tried and tried in Epic Pachinko for her, but no luck at all. In fact, I hardly scored at all in the Sports event in Epic Pachinko, but did get Cheryl and Sporty Jeanne to drop. For me Elyzabeth's a bit too butch for me to perv at but you gotta admire her know-how battle stats. When the event came to an end I let out a loud 'DAMN'!