Epic Pachinko

[Nanashi]

Hey, does anyone of u play epic pachinko more often ?
What are the odds to get a girl in it ? In some random post (dunno where anymore), that if u play epic pachinko x 10 obviously u will receive 1 girl guaranteed, but u will only receive 1 girl.

But if u play 10 seperate epic pachinkos u might end up with more, so my question is how high are the odds of gettin one through a single epic pachinko game.

[Sarkasth]

nobody knows. but pretty low, otherwise nobody would play 10x.

[Nanashi]

So u would recommend to save up kobans and play the 10x instead of 10 single right ?

 

[Sarkasth]

i would recommend to get every. single. regular bossdrop first. U dont want to get one of those in the pachinko when u can get them "for free" with battles.

And then i would wait like ~11months till the next possible anniversary and do single spins. If you dont want to wait that long u have to make an own decision. safe 10x or hope to be lucky ( ' - ')

Edited September 13, 2017 by Sarkasth

[Nanashi]

59 minutes ago, Sarkasth said:

i would recommend to get every. single. regular bossdrop first. U dont want to get one of those in the pachinko when u can get them "for free" with battles.

And then i would wait like ~11months till the next possible anniversary and do single spins. If you dont want to wait that long u have to make an own decision. safe 10x or hope to be lucky ( ' - ')

Yeah thx for the advice! Was kinda hoping for them event limited girls, feared they wont appaer or to get any other way later

[Asherandai]

9 minutes ago, Nanashi said:

Yeah thx for the advice! Was kinda hoping for them event limited girls, feared they wont appaer or to get any other way later

i understand that. last anniversary (july) they put all the old event girls in pachinko, we can assume they'll do it next year though thats a long way away. other than that it depends on if you want to risk paying for free stuff i guess. personally i don't, and i think they should take the boss girls out of pachinko.

[Nanashi]

35 minutes ago, Asherandai said:

i understand that. last anniversary (july) they put all the old event girls in pachinko, we can assume they'll do it next year though thats a long way away. other than that it depends on if you want to risk paying for free stuff i guess. personally i don't, and i think they should take the boss girls out of pachinko.

Yeah me too ... if there wasnt those who u can receive from boss battles i wouldnt even hesitate haha

 

[ranchersa]

39 minutes ago, Asherandai said:

they should take the boss girls out of pachinko.

Yeah, but the whole adventure is too long...  and some exclusive pachinko girls would look nicely in the first not so costly girls.

[Nanashi]

2 hours ago, ranchersa said:

Yeah, but the whole adventure is too long...  and some exclusive pachinko girls would look nicely in the first not so costly girls.

So you think it's actually good to have those girls also in epic pachinko ?
No offense, but is that really ur well thought opinion or is the impatience talking ?

 

[Monster750]

I agree that boss girls shouldn't be in epic Pachinko..

[ranchersa]

3 hours ago, Nanashi said:

So you think it's actually good to have those girls also in epic pachinko ?
No offense, but is that really ur well thought opinion or is the impatience talking ?

Both, somehow... Maybe if the combat system was different, players would love to try out many battle teams, but right now there is no reason to gather other girls than the best attacking ones you got. If you are a Hardcore specialist, for instance, you don't want to adquire the gals in the first worlds, since they are weak and each one you get is more expensive to upgrade. No, you want an hardcore event girl, or the far away permanent boss girls, like Pelagie (sixth world) or Cunegonde (eighth world).

But... somehow is useless to have a strong team. The only reason to have one is to best the last boss with its definitive team. Don't know him yet, but is likely a weakling, like everyone else if you improved your battle stats. They are all petty trolls.

[natstar]

11 hours ago, Nanashi said:

Hey, does anyone of u play epic pachinko more often ?
What are the odds to get a girl in it ? In some random post (dunno where anymore), that if u play epic pachinko x 10 obviously u will receive 1 girl guaranteed, but u will only receive 1 girl.

But if u play 10 seperate epic pachinkos u might end up with more, so my question is how high are the odds of gettin one through a single epic pachinko game.

Pretty easy to figure it out the more girls you still have to get the higher the chance of you getting a girl from it the less girls you need the lower your chance of getting one if you have gotten a girl from a boss you have a lower chance of getting one since the boss girls can also be gotten from epic pachinko

[Asherandai]

1 hour ago, ranchersa said:

Both, somehow... Maybe if the combat system was different, players would love to try out many battle teams, but right now there is no reason to gather other girls than the best attacking ones you got. If you are a Hardcore specialist, for instance, you don't want to adquire the gals in the first worlds, since they are weak and each one you get is more expensive to upgrade. No, you want an hardcore event girl, or the far away permanent boss girls, like Pelagie (sixth world) or Cunegonde (eighth world).

But... somehow is useless to have a strong team. The only reason to have one is to best the last boss with its definitive team. Don't know him yet, but is likely a weakling, like everyone else if you improved your battle stats. They are all petty trolls.

i'm not someone who goes for "the strongest team", there isn't a need for it at present anyway, but i would have thought someone who is aiming to do that would be better off waiting for that late game boss than trying to get the girl through pachinko. especially if affection expence is the reason for doing so. they dont HAVE to farm the earlier bosses for girls, and trying to do it through pachinko i would think would be worse since there are even more girls available in there. you would need some pretty damn good luck to get that 1 or 2 girls you want while not getting half of the others. and if its an event girl you want then having all the boss girls in there reduces your chance of getting her cheaply...

maybe there is something i'm missing but it seems to me like a lose-lose-lose for collectors-battlers-devs alike. no one gets what they want... miracles of RNG excepted of course.

[Nanashi]

8 hours ago, natstar said:

Pretty easy to figure it out the more girls you still have to get the higher the chance of you getting a girl from it the less girls you need the lower your chance of getting one if you have gotten a girl from a boss you have a lower chance of getting one since the boss girls can also be gotten from epic pachinko

Kinda makes sense, but i doubt that is the case here, i took some programming classes and it would make more sense to implement it easier by RNG than all items girls etc in one pool with each have a specific value which also decreases later on. IMO there are currently 4 pools of rewards in epic pachinko and it would be easiest to implement that each category got a specific value or percentage chance given (for exampe : rare 50% / epic 35% / legendary 10% / girls 5%)  and once u play it determines which category u would have lucky to get and from there, just a random item from that pool.

 

That's my initial question if somebody here has played epic pachinko quite often and got a generell gist of the chances.

Edited September 14, 2017 by Nanashi

[natstar]

30 minutes ago, Nanashi said:

Kinda makes sense, but i doubt that is the case here, i took some programming classes and it would make more sense to implement it easier by RNG than all items girls etc in one pool with each have a specific value which also decreases later on. IMO there are currently 4 pools of rewards in epic pachinko and it would be easiest to implement that each category got a specific value or percentage chance given (for exampe : rare 50% / epic 35% / legendary 10% / girls 5%)  and once u play it determines which category u would have lucky to get and from there, just a random item from that pool.

 

That's my initial question if somebody here has played epic pachinko quite often and got a generell gist of the chances.

It's the case the more girls the more chances you will get onethey had the one year anniversary event on about a month ago where you could get all past girls and people were getting about 2-3 girls for every 10 single games they played so it does increase your chances if you have more girls to get so you're better off playing singles games when you still have heaps of them to get during events your chances are even higher due to more girls to get.

[Asherandai]

2 hours ago, Nanashi said:

Kinda makes sense, but i doubt that is the case here, i took some programming classes and it would make more sense to implement it easier by RNG than all items girls etc in one pool with each have a specific value which also decreases later on. IMO there are currently 4 pools of rewards in epic pachinko and it would be easiest to implement that each category got a specific value or percentage chance given (for exampe : rare 50% / epic 35% / legendary 10% / girls 5%)  and once u play it determines which category u would have lucky to get and from there, just a random item from that pool.

 

That's my initial question if somebody here has played epic pachinko quite often and got a generell gist of the chances.

could they not program each of the girls with her own chance, and if she has already been dropped and you roll her again it defaults to something else.

as a simplified example: 10 girls with a 1% chance each and everything else is a common item. while you have 10 girls to get, you have a 10% chance for one to drop and a 1% chance for a specific girl to drop. and when you have only 5 girls left the chance of one the remaining girls to drop is now 5%, and if you roll 6%-10% which would have previously dropped a girl, it instead defaults to a common item.

that doesn't sound difficult to do... i failed programming however so i'm not claiming to know.

[Nanashi]

8 hours ago, natstar said:

It's the case the more girls the more chances you will get onethey had the one year anniversary event on about a month ago where you could get all past girls and people were getting about 2-3 girls for every 10 single games they played so it does increase your chances if you have more girls to get so you're better off playing singles games when you still have heaps of them to get during events your chances are even higher due to more girls to get.

 

6 hours ago, Asherandai said:

could they not program each of the girls with her own chance, and if she has already been dropped and you roll her again it defaults to something else.

as a simplified example: 10 girls with a 1% chance each and everything else is a common item. while you have 10 girls to get, you have a 10% chance for one to drop and a 1% chance for a specific girl to drop. and when you have only 5 girls left the chance of one the remaining girls to drop is now 5%, and if you roll 6%-10% which would have previously dropped a girl, it instead defaults to a common item.

that doesn't sound difficult to do... i failed programming however so i'm not claiming to know.

Yeah both valid point of views! Guess might be the case, i trust ur opinions on this matter senpais/ seniors

Anyway, i came to the conclusion, that i shall save up my kobans in hope for the next anniversary :DD

 

[natstar]

The only problem with playing single games in epic pachinko is that the legendary purple items have the same pop up screen as the girls with the big silver circle with the H in the middle and are a lot more common so you will be selling them from having so many spare ones it's a gamble to play singles but you do have the chance of getting more than one girl while with 10 games you only get one girl every time your choice but i would not do a single game of epic pachinko unless a event is on to increase your chances of getting one.

[Cythen]

I played Epic Pachinko 10x as I was hoping for the cat girl in the current event and needed another source of income, instead I pulled Skytte...just glad it wasn't a boss girl even though she is the worst know-how battler.  

[Damoncord]

Isn't there a set of girls that are ONLY obtainable from Epic?

[ranchersa]

22 minutes ago, Damoncord said:

Isn't there a set of girls that are ONLY obtainable from Epic?

Sure. As long as you don't have them, 10 girls are permanently listed in Epic Pachinko with no bosses assigned. Also, usually, during events there are 3 new girls that are only obtainable through Epic Pachinko. There may be some not typical events.

[Damoncord]

8 minutes ago, ranchersa said:

Sure. As long as you don't have them, 10 girls are permanently listed in Epic Pachinko with no bosses assigned. Also, usually, during events there are 3 new girls that are only obtainable through Epic Pachinko. There may be some not typical events.

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So theoretically once you get all the boss dropable girls, you could do the 10 epic girls then be ready for when events pop up.

[ranchersa]

1 minute ago, Damoncord said:

So theoretically once you get all the boss dropable girls, you could do the 10 epic girls then be ready for when events pop up.

If you pay 10 Epic Pachinko games after you got each boss girl, you will get one epic pachinko only girl as prize. If you have those permanent 10 epic pachinko only girls and all the boss girls, I think you'll get no girl after paying 10 Epic games, unless there is an event with new temporary epic pachinko only girls. Of course, you can obtain an epic pachinko only girl even if you dont have all the boss droppable girls, but it's risky, since the boss girls cost zero kobans when they are dropped after winning a boss fight.

[brassygirl]

3 hours ago, Sadie said:

I played Epic Pachinko 10x as I was hoping for the cat girl in the current event and needed another source of income, instead I pulled Skytte...

She certainly has one of the most provocative figures!!!  hehehe.  Do you like her Pink Hair?

For contest that rewards "give XP to girl", you are at a huge advantage-  Cat Girl will be great if I can get my 5500 in time:

Otherwise?  Union Worker Girl.  Before she was in construction?  She worked in Vegas.  She still knows everyone there.

 

[Damoncord]

Well my theory about using the 10x regular pachinko to get affection items seems to have worked fairly well, I've now got 11 girls, Bunny the 5 star maxed , Juliette at 4  stars, 5 more 3 stars maxed, with another 2 3 stars waiting to be paid to upgrade their star rank to max, with my last 2 girls missing 1500 affection from one and 1350 from the other.