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D3 with 102 Players

Here's a copy of the Feedback I wrote on Discord. I hope you're not serious about this, @Noacc, or are you? (or did I get it entirely wrong?) My feedback: Something is probably wrong here (or it's really not a good deal, especially for Black Friday). Here's what I mean: You say that the original price would be 60€, but if I calculate 1.980 Kobans + 2.700 Kobans (= 1.000 Energy) + 1.050 Kobans (= 100 Combativity) --------------------------------------------------------- =5.730 Kobans I end up with 5.730 Kobans. I can buy 7.200 Kobans regularly for 50€ and have greater value than what you say is a regular 60€ value. Even if I pay 12x 5€ on the worst deal of 500 Kobans, I end up with 6.000 Kobans which is still better than 5.730 Kobans + 5M Ymens (in my opinion). So basically in your deal, I pay 15€ for the 1.980 Kobans (wich is pretty much the standard price) and get the 3 other resources on top for free. But given the relatively low value of Ymens, Energy and Combativity, it's really not a good deal if you're serious about this. But maybe it's a bug and you actually have a really good Black Friday deal for us (e.g. 5.000 Kobans for 15€ or something similar). 😉 What do you think about this. Please correct me if I got anything of this wrong and it's actually a good deal in your opinion.

D3 // 101 players

Not sure if that helps, but still: https://forum.hentaiheroes.com/index.php?/topic/7660-the-porn-franchise/&do=findComment&comment=155320 Have fun playing, you'll get to top of D3 eventually! 👍

M D3 with 102 players:

It's great to see KK listening to their fanbase. From now on let's give the correct class to the girl. I don't know about you, but for me Ombresse fits better in HC, Murane is rather KH and Mizuki makes more sense as CH in my opinion. The rest is very legit though. I'm looking forward to all the changes KK will implement. So far I'd say we have a bright future ahead of us.

Agreed. But you know... democracy... 🤷‍♂️ After we merged with the Natural Born Fuckers, the majority wanted a new name, so we had a huge vote and ended up with The Porn Identity. It's not bad, but it's also not the 🕊️🍺⚔️

@Noacc look at this. The feedback goes from cautiously optimistic to straightforward appreciative. Now I only have one request: Please don't fuck this up. 😂 I recommend putting the patch on the test server for a week so you have enough time for fine tuning and bug fixing. The ideas are all great, so what's left is proper implementation and I bet you'll have the majority of the community behind you again. 👍 Thanks a lot so far, I'm looking forward to it!

Here's a little update to our club advertisement (since we are still mentioned as the Peaceful Warriors in the first post 😉) Name: The Porn Identity ID: 1229 Server Location: HH.com Language: English Current members: 39/40 Motivation: Having a professional team of accomplished players to share high end strategies and win PvP together, and of course to be part of an awesome community! Requirements: PvP optimized setup and level 385+ (this is an open club, so just join without waiting times attached!) Welcome to the Porn Franchise! (Clubs "The Porn Identity", "The Porn Supremacy" and "The Porn Ultimatum") We are a community of great high level HH.com players and we are very happy to have you in our team! We are ambitious and constantly seek to improve ourselves. We embrace challenges and are willing to learn from experience. We love to work together with likeminded people. In order to succeed, we obey a strict Code of Honor which enables us to perform best within our team. This is our Code of Honor: 1. WE HAVE FUN! Why would we play a game anyway if there's no fun involved? We are an awesome community and experience fun together! We celebrate our wins! 2. WE HELP EACH OTHER! We are active warriors and don't hesitate to ask for support. If people have questions, we love to answer them with the intent to help. It is important for us to sustain a good spirit within our community. 3. WE ARE RESPECTFUL! We treat each other and people outside of our community with appreciation. Our communication is respectful and responsible. There is no blaming, trolling, insulting, harassing or poaching. 4. WE ARE AUTHENTIC! We are true to our values and don't pretend, lie, cheat or do anything that harms ourselves or the people around us. 5. WE ARE ATTENTIVE! We watch out for each other and reflect on our actions. We share information in the right places and assure to not offend anybody intentionally. 6. WE KEEP OUR AGREEMENTS! We are committed to this Code of Honor. We call people on violations of the Code and we know that breaking the Code will ban us from the Porn Franchise club and server. And a nice screenshot as well:

As promised, here is an edited version of our strategy guide that I'd like to discuss with you to keep this thread up and running. I'm sure there are things left to add and I'd be happy if you would do just that by posting your strategies or insights right away. 👍 Optimize your Setup for PvP battles: Class: The best general class right now is KH. HC is good as well, but expect to be outperformed by KH players. CH is unfortunately not worth considering if you are looking to change classes at the moment... But watch out, this is my personal opinion and just valid for now. It can easily be outdated information with every patch and also depends on what girls and items are available to you... Stats: Make sure you have maxed out your own stats in the market and the stats of your PvP team. Team: Use the 3 best girls for your class that are available for you. Check out this sortable list to see which girls are best at the moment https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Harem-Heroes/HH:Compare-All-Haremettes Boosters: Try whatever fits you best. Usually the Ginseng Roots or Cordyceps are the best boosters to consider over Chlorella or Jujubees. In the end your optimal setup depends on too many factors to be generalized here, so do some testing and find your best fit. Equipment: Same here, it depends on many factors. However, do either use legendary mono items of your own class or legendary rainbow items (or both). Everything else (like endurance, harmony, other mono items or any non legendary items) will reduce your performance. Strategy for max exp. gain: Do every daily mission. Win as many arena fights as possible. Do all the fights in leagues (and win as many as possible). Try to score high on the weekly ToF leaderboard. The Leagues: Use the optimized PvP setup (see above) Don't rush, it's not worth it. Use the free tokens and become first by playing it smart. It's worth spending some time searching for temporarily weak opponents. Beat those people first since they could be much stronger soon. The Sex Champions: Don't waste Kobans on Champions (especially on the 24h reset timer)! It's a long term feature and will run out of value eventually. Fight one or max. two Champions at a time since every 24h their impression will go down by 10%. Change your team until you have a good setup. It will make a huge difference. The best setup is the one where you have as many matching positions as possible. Don't hesitate to use up your rerolls and try to reach 7 matching positions or more. Level up your matching girls as much as possible. Fight the boss with your 5-star-girl first until you've got the girl. She'll be a worthy addition to your team! Legal Hacks: Use a sanctioned script that gives you more informations and shortcuts (e.g. the script from 1121) On your phone use one mobile browser exclusively for the game for quick access. If you want to save mobile data, use a browser that allows for image blocking (e.g. "Privacy Browser" on Android). Use the out of frame domains to avoid annoying multisession popups and make your life easier in league and villain fights with F5 (or the reload button). Just use CTRL + Leftclick or start at this domain and see the magic happen https://www.hentaiheroes.com/home.html Share your experiences, successes, lessons and ideas on this thread. Together we will be stronger! Ask us everything, we are here to help. Also give feedback to the game and its players so we can become better and have a better time in the Haremverse!

Okay, okay... This has become a recruitment thread and that's not what I intended... So I'm going to post some strategies really soon... after doing some more recruitment 😛 @wolf2307 @toneti @Inuarth @Aufid @slikk @taureau @Wingspread @Joe Mambo @Eman @DFyre @cheeps @jeje7four @anal I'd like to invite you to become part of our community and I would be thrilled if any of you fine people accept. 😀 We are one player short in The Porn Identity (ID 1229) which at this very moment is the #1 Club worldwide. But don't let yourself fool with rankings, it's about the spirit and the great team, isn't it? So please have a look at the first post in this thread where you can see our current Code of Honor. Also don't hesitate to look around on the Forum and/or Discord to see what kind of people we proudly call our members. Oh and if the place is taken already, don't you worry. Maybe there's a free seat in our other Clubs The Porn Supremacy (ID 3588) or The Porn Ultimatum (ID 1004) that you can join (makes communication much easier). Otherwise just post a request in this thread and we'll figure it out, so far we always found a solution! I'm looking forward to your reply!

Hi everybody, since there's no Forum post about these upcoming changes, check them out here: https://www.kinkoid.com/kinkoid-news/ In short we'll get: - A new Mythic Pachinko where you can receive girls from past events. - A x10 button for Champion fights - A button for buying multiple stats at once - Pachinko Orbs (apparently an optainable currency to play Pachinko without spending Kobans) - Event Daily Missions will stay around until the end of the event - New story content of course All in all my reaction is between "Finally!" and "Thank you very much Kinkoid!", and I'm very pleased to see that KK reacts to our wishes and improves on the gameplay. Especially the new Pachinko is a great idea so we can hopefully get some girls that we missed before without hopinig for a specific revival event. So... Kudos to Kinkoid, I'm looking forward to the implementation! What do you fine people think?

D3 with a 103 players:

Okay... I guess this is a necessary one for you @Kinkoid @Noacc People are not happy about your changes, including me. But what exactly are we not happy about? Here's a list I put together from what I see and what I could find on the Discord feedback channel: General issues with this change (and others): - It was neither properly announced nor tested. Solution: Announce it in detail in the Patch notes and use the test server to test it at least one week in advance so we can help you with constructive feedback. - It was implemented suddenly and on the last day of the leagues, so it caught a lot of players by surprise when they tried to finish their season on mobile or in a small browser window. Solution: Same as above. - Poor resource management due to spending time on a design change in an already well designed area of the game. Rather redesign the arena, mission or market screen for consistency. Solution: Focus on redesigns where they matter and maybe spend more time fixing bugs or adding new gameplay features instead. - The change took away a lot of useful information and didn't give us any new one. Also the new design hurts the gameplay in various ways. See below for details and solutions. Specific issues with this change: - The league timer is gone! That's sad since we use it a lot for clear communication especially when we are in different time zones. Solution: Bring it back. - There's a lot of wasted space since you can only see 5 players now instead of 9. And since one or two of these 5 players is yourself, the effective number of visible contenders is down to 3-4. Also it's kind of ironic that you want to make it easier to use on mobile but you waste a lot of vertical space when the phone is held in portrait instead of landscape (or when the browser window has a portrait aspect ratio)... Solution: Decrease row size and use full mobile screen in portrait. - Viable information is missing: How many points does the currently selected player have? What's his level? Solution: Rearrange the buttons and make this information visible again. - We can't click on a player icon to get redirected to his profile anymore which takes away strategic information from us (e.g. which equipment they most likely have). Now it's far too convoluted to get to their profile page via leaderboard. Solution: Make the player icon clickable again. - The information button doesn't work (on mobile). Solution: Fix it. - The sort by Ch. function is now far too close to the Refill/x15 button and can cause easy type errors on mobile. For some players the refill button is missing which is probably a bug (and a slap in the face of gold card owners). Solution: Make it visible for everyone and position it further away from other input areas. - Clicking on a player expands his area while overlapping the player below (on mobile). Therefore the very next player in the list can't be clicked. Solution: Fix it by pushing the next player down (or not expanding the clicked player's area). All in all it's a pretty disappointing change because there are no benefits (as far as I can see) but huge disadvantages... I'm sad since you probably put in time and effort with only good intentions, but these resources were wasted in my opinion and much more needed elsewhere (bug fixing, customer support, consistent redesign etc.). At this point, it's probably best to roll out the old design again and either pretend this never happened or put some serious effort into fixing all of its disadvantages. Okay that's all for now. Thanks for reading this and please also have a look at the discussion below because this is just my personal verdict. I most likely missed some other issues or even positive takeaways. To everyone: Let's discuss this respectfully and give constructive feedback. 👍

We don't know whether shards are getting rarer or not. For statistically relevant evidence we need a high number of test runs that can either verify or falsify your thesis. I guess what you have is a feeling that might be fueled by expectations. Or if your numbers actually got lower it could easily be explained as bad RNG luck. One or some players experiences (on top of that biased experiences since I'm sure the people with increasing numbers don't leave as many public statements) doesn't qualify as evidence. Here's a cool video how Randomness fools us and our expectations (a phenomenon called "Gamblers Fallacy"):

What do you mean? My online slang is not developed enough and the best I could find was "Carbon Copy" to indicate an exact copy or double post. I see everything just once though... Enlighten me please 😂

You're correct about that, but unfortunately there's no other track record of their financial situation as far as I'm aware. The 6 million dollars for example could have been 3M in the first, 2M in the second and 1M in the third year, indicating an eventual demise of their business. It could just as well be the other way around though or even a false statement after all, we don't know... The patreon chart can do nothing more but show an indication (at best) of what their income development overall is. Being the only track record over the past years, what it can do however is showing the result of how a failing business strategy looks like (at least of their business regarding patreon). There are other observations: I know for example that I stopped pledging money through patreon and the in game shop due to bad services and now I'm down to 3$ pm / 36$ pa while otherwise (with a sufficient service) I would have stayed at 210$ pm / 2.520$ pa. I also know of several veteran players who dropped their pledge and/or stopped buying Kobans in the game, too. I read of more and more people complaining about the lack of service and in my club I see more players quitting the game in the last 3 month than in the entire existence of the club before... My point is: From what I can see their business is stagnating at best, and crumbling at worst. That does worry me, because I love playing the game and I'm interested in doing so for more years to come. The most frustrating part about it is that in my opinion all it really comes down to is good or at least sufficiently good customer service. The effort is minimal compared to the potential in profits they can make from listening to our feedback and taking the nice and helpful majority of the community serious (while ignoring the few never satisfied trolls of course). But it's not me to decide, I just hope I can continue on playing the game. 🤞

The yellow line represents the number of patrons while the green line represents the income in dollars. Here's the original source where you can also check for every other creator on patreon: https://graphtreon.com/creator/hentaiheroes

@Zorba the Geek regarding your questions: 1. My information regarding KK's intentions with Silver Lupa were ill-informed. They could just as well have planned her to be HC all along or not planned anything at all and just rolled a dice. 😂 The point I actually wanted to make is that they should have went with the reasonable choice and made the current 5 star legendary KH and not HC or CH. The backlash and player disappointment would have been much less. 2. I was referring to the artwork quality. KK uses different artists and sometimes they don't/can't spend enough time on the art to meet a unified quality standard. Best examples would be the different art style of Sarah Jay (but this is an entirely different discussion again) and events happening in September 2018 and March/April 2019. For reference: Check the art style of Katharina and Vivia as standout examples of inconsistency. On Discord, FAB Kinkoid even apologized publicly for this (which is a nice move, but also confirmation). 3. Visual bugs barely concern me if the core gameplay functions (on mobile, I usually have graphics disabled anyway). The bugs I was referring to were game breaking bugs like the ToF bug that was not fixed for many months. On top of that: Most of these bugs were based on the same concept (using multiple sessions and relogins to exploit) and quite easy to find. I was very disappointed when KK introduced this kind of bug with every new features (latest example was Sex Champions) without checking for them first and learning from their previous mistakes in leagues, ToF, market, villain fights and energy refill... Maybe I'm wrong and it's not avoidable to have some bugs here and there with every update, but given that the character of the bugs are so similar, I would assume somebody on KK's team could check specifically for them before players find them in 5 minutes...

TLDR version: DvDivXXX is right here. Let's see the big picture and not get too comfortable in our veteran seats. The game won't sustain without a healthy playerbase. KK please listen to your community! Original version: You've got a point there, a really good one. Thanks for your post, honestly my immediate reaction to the Lupa HC announcement was more like: "Meh..." I'm in the lucky and luxurious position of having all 5 star KH legendaries (or generally all 5 star legendaries for what it's worth) and I'm getting pretty comfortable in my veteran position. Not having Lupa to join my current PvP team is nothing more than a slight annoyance, but really no big deal to me personally. However: It is a huge deal for anybody outside of this high veteran tower and it has very much an indirect effect on the entire playerbase. If there are less and less new players to the game, there will be saturation and stagnation, slowly killing the game eventually. Financially I don't see a sustainable Business Model: Overall more and more people are leaving the game from what I can see, and I don't blame them. New players are disappointed of the treatment (or mistreatment) of KK when it comes to patches, customer service, bugs etc. Others might be pissed about the excessive F2P mechanics that make it impossible to get every girl without spending truckloads of real world money and being constantly reminded about that with every event. Well and us veterans... we just get bored by the lame endgame. Also I'm pretty sure we don't pay a lot anymore (well... except for the 3 people committed to the exp race, you know who I mean :wink:). I personally dropped my 200$ patronage in March and went back to from the gold card to silver a few weeks ago because there's simply no use for anything else. Since leagues, contests, ToF rewards and missions provide enough Kobans for us veterans, who is going to pay for your jobs, if not the new and fresh players?!? If the patreon income chart is any indication, the HH business seems to struggle ever since beginning of 2018: So @Kinkoid @Noacc if you read this, please consider reading our statements and see how your community reacts to certain decisions you make. I think changing Lupa from KH to HC was a bad move for all parties involved, especially yourself and your long term business strategy. I love the game, despite the underwhelming customer service, the many bugs, the fluctuation in graphics quality and all your questionable decisions with patches. I want you to be successful so we can keep enjoying the game, and therefore we need a broader and much more satisfied playerbase. There is plenty of good advice from the community on this forum and on Discord. We are very much willing to help you with feedback and suggestions. The best way you can improve customer satisfaction dramatically and immediately, even without or at least very few additional costs would be: 1. Post patch notes early and in a complete manner, so all changes and additions are properly mentioned (and stick to them) 2. Use your test server to actually test the features (maybe one week in advance) I'm sure you'll see a lot of magic happen through advanced and early feedback that you can react to in time... And probably this will have a positive effect on your profits as well. 😃

Oh yeah, you're right. If forgot the good old times before legendary 5 stars were introduced... My god, I think I was still KH back then (my original class upon starting the game). 😅

As for the whole Lupa discussion: To me it looks like KK doesn't care at all, but that's alright. They created a fun Hentai game and at some point added more and more PvP without thinking it through. The girl distribution, the class specials, the boosters... Nothing really works in a balanced way and is easily exploitable. And yes, it's sad that KH stays at their 3rd 5-star girl while HC instead gets a 5th one, but don't forget that KH players have some other nice advantages over HC as well. If anybody deserved some love from KK right now, it's the CH players, they never got to be best at anything. 😅

Okay let me just slide in right here (pun intended 😏) before we get another outbreak over things that are not related to the thread's topic. Speaking to the people of "The Porn Identity" Club: @GeorgeMTO I know you easily get offended when somebody states factually false information (I guess you prefer the term "dumb bullshit"). And while I agree that Zorba must've misremembered Any's introduction (I consider the research of @DvDivXXX to be proof enough), your immediate reaction was everything but respectful. All Zorba did was stating his thoughts and opinions which were based on a lose memory, but so what? We all make mistakes! Please stick to our code that you agreed to: "We treat each other and people outside of our community with appreciation. Our communication is respectful and responsible. There is no blaming, trolling, insulting, harassing or poaching." I love your dedication to the game and your broad knowledge which is far beyond mine. I remember you correcting me here and there and you did it perfectly respectful. So please keep the attitude of helping us (the community) to stick to the facts whenever we're off, but without picking instant fights. @$exgod69 I feel you, mate. I'm infamous for using far to many words in my statements (for proof just look at this very post 😉) and people will always make fun of me because of that. The trick is to own it and not to take yourself too seriously. I don't see any offense in shal's post, just irony. If his reply was towards me I'd probably just laughed at myself and said "that's so true", but yeah... You decide how to take it, but I suggest you use the power of self-referential humor. Makes life so much easier! Here's a clip from one of my favorite movies "Peaceful Warrior" that explains it better:

Patch Notes: Let's hear it guys I find it incredibly funny that she's HC and not KH... Somebody please explain that pattern to me... My condolences to everybody who hoped to complete their PvP team with her, that's gonna take a while now. KH is still the best class though (because Agate! 😏).