[Champions] Battle Stats (Attack & Defense Especially)

[DvDivXXX]

Hi guys,

Recently I've been giving more thought to the battle mechanics against champions, and it doesn't seem to be as intuitive as I used to assume, especially in terms of your own Attack and Defense stats when fighting a champion. I've searched both wikis (EN and FR) and this forum, to no avail.

If anyone knows exactly how your Attack and Defense stats are calculated when entering a battle against a champion, could you please explain it to me?

Here's what I've found so far:

- It's NOT your hero's relevant stat + your equipment + your 10-girl line-up's stats.

- It's NOT just your hero's relevant stat either.

- Boosters work normally, but based on the seemingly random relevant stat you're given, and that's what eludes me.

I'm KH. Right now, my Hero's base HC stat is 12,320 (when I equip a full set of garbage with no added stats, and 3 level 1 girls). With my usual multi-stat set, this goes up to 26,978. When I enter a fight against Alban, , I start with a (HC) Defense of 9,086 and an Attack of 41,955 (with my multi-stat set equipped). I just can't figure out where these values come from... =/

I even wasted a ticket on a battle with my garbage equipment just to see how it affected my stats. Here are a few pics of my results:

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[GeorgeMTO]

The attack value against champions = Hero Main Stat Points (from level and market) + Hero Main Stat Equipment + 5 * Girl's Main Stat

I can't find a message where @_shal_ mentioned their defence value on the Discord to steal his record keeping from though (also note that both of the Hero values above get affected by boosters/clubs as per normal).

[_shal_]

Defense = (Hero Def Stat Points + 2 * Hero Def Stat Equipment + 1 * Girl's Def Stat) / 5.

In your case:

HChigh - HClow = 26978 - 12320 = 14658, from the equipment changes

14658 * 2 / 5 = 5863.2 = Defhigh - Deflow = 9086 - 3223

Edited July 8, 2020 by _shal_

[Kenrae]

What about Ego by the way? It's slightly different (higher) than in PvP battles. Maybe it takes into account all the girls?

[_shal_]

32 minutes ago, Kenrae said:

What about Ego by the way? It's slightly different (higher) than in PvP battles. Maybe it takes into account all the girls?

The endurance calculation isn't quite the same as in regular PvP either (it's lower against champions), though I never bothered to figure out the details for that. What I can tell you is that:

Ego = Endurance + [sum of all 10 girls' three class stats]

Edit: I take that back. Endurance seems to be the same for regular and champions PvP now; pretty sure that wasn't the case in the past.

Edited July 8, 2020 by _shal_

[DvDivXXX]

Sweet, thanks a bunch! These seem to check out, and explain what I wanted to know.

[Kenrae]

hace 5 horas, _shal_ dijo:

Edit: I take that back. Endurance seems to be the same for regular and champions PvP now; pretty sure that wasn't the case in the past.

You're right, I just confirmed it myself. I'm also sure it wasn't the case, that's why I mentioned it.