PlusIon Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Ever since they talked about revamping the PvP Battles, I stopped focusing on the girls affection and focused only on increasing my stats. I thin I was around level 50 at the time. Just this morning was I able to accomplish this in the market. On a simple note... I was able to almost upgrade every girl to at least three stars by completing the daily missions and Arena quests. So with the low drop rate I ran into after I had about 30 girls has made it possible to ignore affection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotless Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 how much money did they cost you ?? my 145lvl character is at 3999 so how much i still need ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlusIon Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Each stat is maxed at a cost of 9353 for level 148. At level 145 it would be maxed at 9125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ol Sheriff Joe Posted May 30, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2018 il y a 19 minutes, PlusIon a dit : Each stat is maxed at a cost of 9353 for level 148. At level 145 it would be maxed at 9125. Hmm... if it not too much to ask, would you know how much the cost would be if i capped at lvl 193? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotless Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) I was going to ask the same thing because besides the 145lvl i have two more characters, one is 180lvl and the other is 205lvl so i would love to know the caps for those levels as well. Edited May 30, 2018 by Hotless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ol Sheriff Joe Posted May 30, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2018 it's a bit tricky to calculate, as the prices go up with your number of augmentations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Hotless said: I was going to ask the same thing because besides the 145lvl i have two more characters, one is 180lvl and the other is 205lvl so i would love to know the caps for those levels as well. If I'm not mistaken, you can buy 25 points for the first 40 levels, and then 19 points per new level. That would mean that at level 180, you can buy a total of 25 x 40 + (180 - 40) x 19 = 3660 points in total. At level 205 it would mean a total of 4135 points you can buy. The first 2000 points increase the cost for the next one with 2, the next 2000 points increase the cost for the next point with 4, the next 200 points with 6, etc. The first point costs 5. 3660 = 2000 + 1660. The first 2000 points increase the cost with 2 x 2000 = 4000. Those 1660 increase the cost with 1660 x 4 = 6640. So that would mean that at level 180 the cap is at 4000 + 6640 + 5 = 10645. 4135 = 2000 + 2000 + 135. The first 2000 points increase the cost with 4000 (see previous one). The second 2000 points increase the cost with 2000 x 4 = 8000. The last 135 points increase the cost with 135 x 6 = 810. That would mean at level 205 the cap is at 4000 + 8000 + 810 + 5 = 12815. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ol Sheriff Joe Posted May 30, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2018 Something is wrong in these calculations... i'm level 193, by your maths, i should cap at 11628/pt, and my next point costs me 11641, not maxed... Where's the error?... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Oh woopsie poopsie. You can buy 40 points for the first 25 levels, not 25 points for the first 40 levels >,<. 44 minutes ago, Chthugha said: If I'm not mistaken, you can buy 40 points for the first 25 levels, and then 19 points per new level. That would mean that at level 180, you can buy a total of 25 x 40 + (180 - 25) x 19 = 3945 points in total. At level 205 it would mean a total of 4420 points you can buy. The first 2000 points increase the cost for the next one with 2, the next 2000 points increase the cost for the next point with 4, the next 200 points with 6, etc. The first point costs 5. 3945 = 2000 + 1945. The first 2000 points increase the cost with 2 x 2000 = 4000. Those 1945 increase the cost with 1945 x 4 = 7780. So that would mean that at level 180 the cap is at 4000 + 7780 + 5 = 11785. 4420 = 2000 + 2000 + 420. The first 2000 points increase the cost with 4000 (see previous one). The second 2000 points increase the cost with 2000 x 4 = 8000. The last 420 points increase the cost with 420 x 6 = 2520. That would mean at level 205 the cap is at 4000 + 8000 + 2520 + 5 = 14525. Adjusted the results here, but not in my original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlusIon Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Here is the Chart. There are spots where the cost is increased so it looks like I added a row, but it is to separate the levels where it begins at 1 price increase and ends with another (like increasing 2 per purchase vs increasing 4 per purchase) For some reason I cannot remove the image that is at the end.... It is easier to read within the spoiler tags. 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Hotless Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) well i don't know if the maths are correct, cthugha is saying that the cap for 205 is at 12815 or something while plusion's list says 14525 anyway at the moment with my 205 character i am sitting at 12001 points and the cost increases by 4 every time i click so we will see soon enough at how much money the cap is. Edited May 31, 2018 by Hotless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) the simplified formulae are: max upgrades (above lvl 40): 19*lvl + 525 max cost (above lvl 78): 76*lvl - 1895 max cost (above lvl 183): 114*lvl - 8845 total cost: it's complicated, better use hh++ script (searching for the forum thread to link) edit: max costs should be correct and simplified now. Edited May 31, 2018 by Habi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blain Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Habi said: total cost: it's complicated, better use hh++ script (searching for thr forum thread to link) looking for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Blain said: looking for this? yeah thanks... i had to leave suddenly so i couldn't finish it. finished the formulae for max costs so i did some work myself at least. Edited May 31, 2018 by Habi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ol Sheriff Joe Posted May 31, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2018 Wow, i did some calculations... I'm faaaaaar from capped... i can still buy 3,5 M Y in my primary stat, not even mentioning the two others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 15 hours ago, Hotless said: well i don't know if the maths are correct, cthugha is saying that the cap for 205 is at 12815 or something while plusion's list says 14525 anyway at the moment with my 205 character i am sitting at 12001 points and the cost increases by 4 every time i click so we will see soon enough at how much money the cap is. Yeah, I edited my calculations in a post below. I had made a mistake at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlusIon Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Habi said: the simplified formulae are: max upgrades (above lvl 40): 525 + 19*lvl max cost (above lvl 78): 4005 + 76*lvl max cost (above lvl 183): 12005 + 114*lvl total cost: it's complicated, better use hh++ script (searching for thr forum thread to link) edit: something is wrong here with the max costs... don't use them. Market cost is based on number of stats purchased and not on level. But because the level is our limiting factor we all want to have it based on the level. So he is absolutely correct when he says it is complicated. And it is complicated for 2 reasons. The first 25 levels allow for 40 stat increases whereas everything after that only allow 19 increases. Every 2000 stats purchased increase the costs an additional $2 so this causes 5 separate brackets. Levels 000-077 : Market Increase = 2 : Initial bracket cost = 5 + (Additional Levels - See further down for an explanation)** Levels 078-182 : Market Increase = 4 : Initial bracket cost = 4033 Levels 183-288 : Market Increase = 6 : Initial bracket cost = 12017 Levels 289-393 : Market Increase = 8 : Initial bracket cost = 24133 Levels 394-400 : Market Increase = 10 : Initial bracket cost = 40115 So here is the basic formula: Max Market Cost = (Level - Initial Bracket Level) * (19 * Market Increase) + Initial Bracket Cost For Example @Hotless Level 203: Max Market Cost = (203 - 183) * (19 * 6) + 12017 Max Market Cost = (20) * (114) + 12017 Max Market Cost = 2280 + 12017 Max Market Cost = 14297 @Habi was almost there with his formulas. He has a good knowledge of the brackets. At level 78 after 12 stats purchased we reach the 2000 stat bracket and can purchase 7 more stats at $4 so add 28 to 4005 for an initial bracket cost 4033. At level 183 after 17 stats purchased we reach the 4000 stat bracket and we can now purchase 2 more stats at $6 so add 12 to 12005 for and Initial Bracket cost of 12017. The Initial Bracket Cost includes all of the levels before the bracket so we subtract those levels before multiplying in the market increase. ** Now the formula has to be adjusted for the first bracket because we get an additional 21 stat increases for the first 25 levels (19 + 21 = 40) Levels 000 - 025 : Additional Levels = Level * 21 * 2 Levels 026 - 077 : Additional Levels = 25 * 21 * 2 = 1050 For Example Level 22 Max Market Cost = (Level - Initial Bracket Level) * (19 * Market Increase) + Initial Bracket Cost + (Additional Levels) Max Market Cost = (22 - 0) * (19 * 2) + 5 + (22 * 21 * 2) Max Market Cost = (22) * (38) + 5 + (924) Max Market Cost = 836 + 929 Max Market Cost = 1765 For Example Level 69 Max Market Cost = (Level - Initial Bracket Level) * (19 * Market Increase) + Initial Bracket Cost + (Additional Levels) Max Market Cost = (69 - 0) * (19 * 2) + 5 + (1050) Max Market Cost = (69) * (38) + 1055 Max Market Cost = 2622 + 1055 Max Market Cost = 3677 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Habi said: the simplified formulae are: max upgrades (above lvl 40): 19*lvl + 525 max cost (above lvl 78): 76*lvl - 1895 max cost (above lvl 183): 114*lvl - 8845 total cost: it's complicated, better use hh++ script (searching for the forum thread to link) edit: max costs should be correct and simplified now. @PlusIon i quoted my edited post here for the correct values. it took some time to correct it because i had to leave suddenly. there are another 2 max costs missing for level >= 289 when the cost rises by 8 per point after 6000 upgrades and level >= 394 when the cost rises by 10 per point after 8000 upgrades. i didn't include them here because the values floating around here are faaaaaar away from that. Edited May 31, 2018 by Habi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlusIon Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) So to further break out @Habi's formulas.... He essentially shows how my formula is simplified for each bracket (He subtracts the previous bracket costs after multiplying the market increase while in my formula I do it before) Max Market Cost = (19 * Market Increase) * Level + Initial Bracket Cost - ( Initial Bracket Level * 19 * Market Increase) I will add the rest of the brackets using his formatting because with his method, he does most of the math for you. All you need to do is put in your level: max cost (above lvl 00): 80 * lvl + 5 (remember the first 25 levels are different) max cost (above lvl 25): 38 * lvl + 1055 max cost (above lvl 78): 76 * lvl - 1895 max cost (above lvl 183): 114 * lvl - 8845 max cost (above lvl 289): 152 * lvl - 19795 max cost (above lvl 394): 190 * lvl - 34745 Edited May 31, 2018 by PlusIon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) i think i have a formula floating around somewhere to calculate the money needed to max out on a stat. but it's simplified to my own situation which means the current cost is between 12005 and 24005 and thus rising by 6 on every point, so the total cost from 0 can't be determined this way. i will search for it tomorrow, i don't have it here right now. i think it can be useful for people that don't want to use the hh++ script or can't because they are playing on a mobile device. edit: well screw that... i derived it again. isn't that complicated tbh: you will need max upgrades, max cost (both supplied above), current cost (look at your market), current upgrades and missing upgrades (both supplied here): current upgrades = 4000 + (current cost - 12005) / 6 missing upgrades = max upgrades - current upgrades (who would have imagined that ) total cost to max (understandable) = missing upgrades * (current cost + max cost)/2 total cost to max (simplified) = missing upgrades * (current cost + 3*missing upgrades) i tried to do a complete resolution of those formulae a while ago but it resulted in a huge mess and i also did some mistake(s) in between. the ones i provided turned out to be the easiest applicable for me. Edited May 31, 2018 by Habi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentinel003 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 To avoid questions about the cost, just install the HH add-on. It will let you know how many points you need to max, money total to max, etc. Has also other decent features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Does this actually make a difference in PvP or do you just get pitted against comparably strong opponents? Also, somehow your stats aren't all that different from mine and I never really bothered paying for stats, so I wonder if there was any point. I never lose against the trolls and tend to win more than I lose in the arena. But the arena pays crap, so it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlusIon Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 Indirectly you will eventually even out your mojo. Then the opponents will be stronger, but most people don't even come close to maxing out their stats unless they care about PvP. Since I maxed them out, I have an average 11/12 win ratio per day. Before I maxed them out I was 2/3 win ratio per day. So the answer is the people who are lower than your level will have stronger stats and the people higher than your level will have weaker ones. I think this is a side effect of the mojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotless Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Hey, just to make an update: yesterday i increased my stats from 12.001 to 14.999 money and i am 213lvl so how much more i still have to max out the stats ?? My guess is less than 16k but i wanna be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Hotless said: Hey, just to make an update: yesterday i increased my stats from 12.001 to 14.999 money and i am 213lvl so how much more i still have to max out the stats ?? My guess is less than 16k but i wanna be sure. 12005 + ((213*19+525)-4000)*6 = 15437. you are close, keep going! Edited June 13, 2018 by Habi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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