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Reading through the comments, aside from those with bad luck complaining that they have bad luck, I think there is one thing Kinkoid should take from this event that the majority of posters seem to agree on Stop with the shitty fucking Dark Lord cash return!!! I get feeling the need to make it accessible to newer players, but honestly most new players don't expect to be able to get the best of the best right out the gate. Those that do are total morons. Using accessibility as a reason for screwing long-term "end-game" players is the most piss poor excuse possible. It would literally be better to outright say "we don't give a shit about our loyal players", because at least that would be honest. Sticking all the events to the low level bosses needs to stop.

well i wouldn't be laughing due to one reason...if over 29 pages where about even 40% hatred that means a decent chunk of people are pissed off and that could effect how much money they are getting....also they are competing for my money so this was a very poor move even if i had gotten her since i would have come here to talk about how cool of a design she has and i would now be holding onto my money like a dragon does gold

you know what would make this event a little less infuriating if they gave each boss a permanent legendary...at least then we could farm them even if it takes forever

When a game causes more pain and stress than it does fun and enjoyment, you know something is wrong.

i realized after reading your post that the News was actually accurate and they indirectly told us that the drop rate for the legendary girl is low. the mouse will be on fire from all that clicking of fight button and refill button

I just hope the dev team pays attention to the tremendous amount of overwhelmingly negative feedback they've received for this disaster. 1) This "event" is not an event at all. It's just a girl. Hell, the normal events can barely be called events, but at least they include a theme. We have new artwork for the town, costumes for the trolls, theme-based missions, and multiple girls to win via different methods (trolls, missions, pachinko). This legendary "event" is just a girl. 2) There is nothing about this girl that makes her "legendary". She has monster stats. Great. All she does then is make the hundreds of other girls you've introduced obsolete as hardcore alpha girls (I cringe to think of all those poor bastards who just upgraded fairy to 5 stars) and give an unfair advantage to those who won her through dumb luck. We've heard before that more girls will be moving to 5 stars. It's my belief that more and more new "legendary" girls will be introduced going forward, each with more "legendary" stats than the last, just dangling out there for the poor, compulsive players to have to win with their hard earned (or paid for) kobans. 3) The drop system for this girl is complete and utter bullshit. Read the comments. Whether a player won her or not, the criticism of the system is universal. Pure RNG for an extremely short duration is a terrible model. RNG is fine, but at some point, the extra time, effort, and money put towards acquiring this girl should count for something. Others have mentioned increasing the drop rate as you do more fights (like normal boss girls), or a cap on fights with a progress bar. If you just said "she is a random drop, with a low drop rate, but if she has not dropped by the 499th fight, she will be an automatic drop on the 500th fight", then most of these negative comments go away (and since most players would get her well before that point, it wouldn't even change your numbers very much). What makes people angry is knowing they've dumped thousands of kobans at her and made no progress at all towards obtaining her. 4) People are pissed about the low-level trolls having all these event girls. Just change one mechanic and you solve everyone's problem. Lift the level cap on low-tier bosses. Give all of your bosses the same max level and all of your complaints go away. Bottom line: your players are more pissed than they've ever been and this "event" was an epic failure in their eyes. Maybe in the development team's eyes, it was a success due to all the koban purchases. But that trick will not work a second time. Keep your players happy and they will spend money (I know I will). Screw them over and they will walk away. I did not spend a single koban in this event. If the girl had a 500 fight cap, I would have spent kobans on refills to win her.

how this event feels

With five hours to go I'll get 10 more tries before the end. Note to the devs, I was thinking about getting the $3 a month card. Key word WAS, now it will just go towards three more different patreon creators.

Haven't read all the comments, but I'm getting the overwhelming impression that you have to pay to recharge stamina to stand a decent chance at getting the legendary girl to drop. And if that's the case, my interest in her just died. But in case it's not, I will keep trying. For free. But to echo what some have said, I do think it's pretty weird that the most powerful girl is in Dark Lord's harem. Unless the idea is to tempt new players into trying to get her, since they wouldn't have access to the later bosses yet. Stranger still that Dark Lord could afford to keep such a high class girl happy with the little bit of money he drops. But if it matters? I wouldn't mind so much failing to get a legendary girl to drop if I was at least earning Finalmecia level money in the process. Because ending an event without the girl AND broke? Not a great feeling at all.

I'm sick of this, it's like I'm playing the lottery. I've made sure to use all of the free combativity points I've gotten, and even refilled a few times, and what do I have to show for it? Nothing aside form a few extra bucks, and even that worthless if you compare how much money I could have gotten from fighting other bosses. I know that this has been said before on this thread, but I had to vent this out somewhere.

don't worry i spent money and still haven't gotten her...so yeah the "pay to win model" doesn't work here its just pain...but hey at least we now all know to avoid putting money in and trying to get special event girls

I think it's safe to say this "event" has definitely succeeded ...in accruing MASS DISAPPOINTMENT!! Personally, I'd like to see Bunny show a fair degree of remorse for getting us all hyped-up and failing to deliver. (As usual.)

I'm patient but if I don't get her I'm done with this game. The design of this event is catastrophic. In almost every other event you could get two girls by random chance from bosses, one girl as a fixed reward at the end, and two girls from epic pachinko. That is fine. I can get three of them and if I don't spend real money on the two left, I can accept that someone else has them because they used money. In this event, you can do anything, spend your money, try your luck, etc, and you can get literally nothing. I can't even express how much of a fail this is. If you expected me to spend hundreds of dollars because you hyped up this one special girl to be a "must have", then you are mistaken. I spent around 1800 kobans on refills so far, and I will try until the end, but count me out once this event ends and I don't get her. Yes, I'm that entitled.

I would of went with one of the hot pepper gaming reviews.

Got my fight count to 638, i bet you can't guess if she dropped - Nah... I'm switching to charm at least there are some OBTAINABLE and DECENT 5star girls, unlike Levitya and Ankyo. And more importantly i'm moving away from that "legendary" 3500 reward per fight... Salute to the devs, for making this event memorable. It spurred a lot of positive and constructive feedback in the forums... ofcourse not it's a total sh*tshow. As for the event it will be remembered as the days of legendary frustration! It takes some talent to ruin the game experience of so many people! It goes without saying that i'd rather lose my arm than to make another game purchase.

1300 Fights.... Can we pin this topic and shove it in the devs faces? This is absurd. Your event is a failure. You've pissed off a good deal of your player base. You've destroyed any faith we have for any future events of this nature, and you NEED TO MAKE CHANGES IF YOU DO ANOTHER LEGENDARY EVENT. Or just abandon this game and open up a damn casino, you already have the perfect 'house always wins' mentality for it.

550 dark lord fights with nothing bad enough without also losing out on nearly 13 million cash from not fighting top boss. Those few who got in normal points without refill just look at all the posts from 500 - 1000 fights with no drops. If devs publish crap drop rates at least you know what you are into, instead of guessing you know what you are into and proving yourself right. Well game was fun for a while but not bothering anymore after this b/s of an event!

@YoyoHH @PlusIon Nice to see such diametrical opposing views. Believe it or not, I understand both sides. On the one hand. As it is players progress way too fast through the game and the developers need to find a way to slow them down so they can keep up with development. It's a hassle to do this and even more so, to do it evenly so that neither newbees nor veterans feel shortchanged (too much). Most complaints I come across are derived from a feeling that the complainer has been done wrong where the complainer has little consideration for players that are at a different stage of the game. On the other hand. This is a game of the long haul and ppl plan for it. Most choices you had, have been stripped since the patches started in February. So what's left is strategyplay to feel you have some control left over the game. Surprises like this create a fair bit of unnecessary frustration. Also, the validity of YoyoHH's point is without recourse. By Pluslon's calculation the pivot point in the - pay now, get back later change - is at a lvl no player is, nor will be at for months, since end of game players don't know what to do with their energy points. I know I might sound ambivalent but all I do is trying to make sense of it all and find a reason to keep playing this game. Since I have less and less control over how to play the game - we all are more or less forced to take the same path -the only thing that keeps me playing at the moment is that some veterans are stuck in their ways and simply refuse to see the merits of PvP play, aka arena fights. To capture the kobans from under their noses in contests is one of the few rewards left in gameplay. Keep playing, have fun, play nice.

Les gros points noirs de ce genre d'event en ce qui me concerne c'est : Dark Lord et le drop rate abyssmal. 1) Le risque énorme de voir son argent partir en complète fumée. Parce que Dark Lord ne rapporte absolument rien. On devrait toujours tirer quelque chose de l'argent réel qu'on investi, même si ce n'est pas ce qu'on veut (comme le pachinko épique, tout simplement). Si Dark Lord rapportait autre chose que de la poussière d'argent et commençait à rapporter des sommes convenable et/ou du stuff/affection de notre niveau, on aurait pu à râler. En l’occurrence c'est pas le cas, ce boss est une pure perte de temps et un ennui monstre. Je peux juste plus le voir en peinture. On passe plus de la moitié de nos mois de jeux à le combattre désormais ça n'a aucun sens. @Kinkoid si vous tenez tant que ça à ce qu'on passe notre vie dessus, faites en sorte que ce soit pas en vain. On peut plus rien faire d'autres quand on le combat. Plus de sous = plus de jeu, c'est aussi simple que ça. Ca bloque le stuffing, ça bloque l'affection/l'exp du harem, ça bloque l'augmentation des stats. Bref le jeu complet est en stand by chaque fois qu'on se coltine ce boss de mes deux. Infernal. 2) Le drop rate est beaucoup trop bas cette fois-ci. 0.5% j'aurais compris, moins c'est de la folie pour juste 4 jours d'event où on ne peut combattre qu'un peu plus de 100/150 fois environ. Parce qu'en l’occurrence la fille n'a rien de spécial/légendaire (elle n'est ni mieux ni moins bien que les filles histoire) si ce n'est son impossibilité d'obtention sans payer. C'est bien simple, si j'avais pas droppé la fille j'aurais été suffisamment vexé pour ne plus jamais foutre un rond dans le jeu. J'ai tendance à beaucoup dépenser quand un F2P me plait habituellement. Mais faut que j'en ai pour mon argent systématiquement sinon je paye plus. 40€ foutus dans Dark Lord j'aime autant vous dire que j'ai serré le cul comme jamais. Et d'ailleurs c'est la dernière fois que ça arrive. Trop de risque pour un gain de ZÉRO si ça drop pas. Pas un stuff, pas une thune, pas d'affection, rien. Juste une énorme somme d'argent réel partie en pure fumée. C'est purement inacceptable en ce qui me concerne.

@CharlesFrancis So, someone please remind me why this Levitya is so legen.....wait for it....DARY! I compared her to Samane on https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Harem-Heroes/HH:Samane I assume that since the data is published there it's ok to repeat it here. Levitya, alhough she has some remarkable stats doesn't outperform Samane by that much. Agreed, with a 20 % bonus she can kick Samane's ass but I'm sure Abrael will return the favour with a smile. If you take into account the announced introduction of a battlesystem where the defence stats come into play more you might argue that the best girl is the one with the highest stats in total. In which case Samane beats this allegedly legendary girl by 0.4. Charlesfrancis is good with numbers. I'd like to hear his thoughts on this especially. Anybody else's two cents are welcome too. (I'll use the money to buy kobans; I promise)

How the devs respond to this thread will be very telling of how their minds work. And that includes if they choose not to answer as well. They have more than enough feedback to see since the event started, people have been disappointed with this event. They've had several posts of suggestions to improve this in the future. Now to see what they do with our feedback.

Sorry to say, I doubt this game is worth spending real money. So I’m safe here I guess. The game is supposed to be fun. Although I enjoy grind to a certain degree I do think this event is very special in terms of meaningless and miserable time waste. No rage here, just boredom.

this event, the drop rate in general, the fact the devs really dont seem to give a damn... this whole thing is complete garbage.... if i dont completely toss this game in the shit can as a worthless, im definitely not participating in future events...especially after seeing the long list of complaints in here.... .events like this seem to be nothing but a giant cash grab with nothing as a reward.... fucking waste of time

Would be nice if they upped the drop rate for the last day so people can finally get her that have spent thousands of Kobans to show something for there investment.

Yeah, it's one thing to have a very hard nearly unobtainable item in a game. It's another to make that extremely powerful and have it not related to effort. smh I'm upgrading Fairy to 5 stars somewhere next week and then I'm going to reevaluate my spare time. Not out of anger, but I don't seem to care wether I get her or not this way. And if I don't care, why bother with it at all? Maybe it's time.

I must agree with many of the previous comments. I just spent about 5200 kobans on refills and nothing. Thats approximately 480 fights against the dark lord not counting the ones I played since the event started. Even without the supposed increasing of the chance, if you do not getting her, thats less than about 0.2% drop chance and that's a reaaally optimistic guess. Well, I guess I will just go and loose every fight from now on in the arena against others who managed to get her thanks to their much better stats. Yeah... great event... spent all my kobans and a bunch of time on basically nothing. So much fun. At least pleeeease remove the level cap on the dark lord so the money we get is not so atrocious. (I wouldn't be terribly surprised after this gargantuan jump to pay to win model if her drop chance would have skyrocketed if I actually spent real money to buy kobans...)

Well, after spending thousands of Kobans on refills, (over 500 fights) and no event girl, my response at adding a legendary girl with these terrible drop rates, of which you only have 3 days to farm is just bad. Very disappointing,. In my opinion, it should be that after around 200 fights ,event girls should be 100%.. You should make people feel like they WANT to spend money, not NEED to. If I know that the equivalent of €40 worth of kobans isn't guaranteed to get me even 1 event girl, then where's the incentive to spend my money?

@Kinkoid @JessieChan So you introduced a legendary event and wanted to know what the community thought about it. Well here's a result: A lot more first time posters in the threads and I can't say the sentiment looks like they're overcome with happiness. That's your feedback. I know that I'm not alone when I say I'm curious as to your response.

Really now? Probably should not have posted that comment. Not when there is so much frustration getting the girl. As matter of fact, I think only ones to truly enjoying this event are the devs......when they look at whatever account registers people money use on kobans.

Everybody is super stressed out and a lot of people lost all their kobans. this has been very stressful

First of all I have to say that usually event girls are very achievable even without spending kobans - since I started playing I pretty much got every event girl (including revival events) within the time frame of the event without spending any kobans. Generally it takes roughly one week to get both, sometimes less, sometimes more. So as usual I played the first day and regularly farmed dark lord, now that time got short I used kobans to buy refills for the very first time - luckily I amassed a lot of kobans over the last year -. I thought that maybe I have to refill until I reach ~one week worth of combativity, but I was wrong. I hit a point were it literally became comically and I just pushed it as far as I could to see when the girl dropped. Long story short - with the 100-150 regular fights in the first three days I needed a total over OVER 1300! fights to get her. Yes, I had to buy exactly 60!!! refills - this translate to roughly ~80€/~100$ (for the BEST! deal on nutaku) of ingame currency. That's insane! I understand that I probably got super unlucky, but how can it be even reasonably acceptable that you might have to do over 1000 fights to get an event girl even with the worst luck possible. So if you actually plan to buy kobans for refills just to get the legendary girl - or pretty much any event girl - please consider that you might be in for a lot of pain and you might end spending a massive chunk of money just for a single girl. And kinkoid - if you actually want whales to pump in a ton of money please make spam fighting more bearable. With all the unnecessary animations and clicks it took me a solid hour to click through all the fights and my hand literally got sore from just the clicking. A fight again or fight x10 button would have helped big time.

42 combats pour l'avoir. Et oui, elle est top. Après, vu que j'ai un gros kiffe pour les succubes, anges déchus, anges, démons, vampires... Forcément... Je suis pas objectif. La seule chose que je regrette... C'est les ailes sur la tête... (je trouve ça ridicule ==> à la rigueur, des cornes passeraient beaucoup mieux, je trouve)

wow. thanks dirty harry for the vote of confidence! I don't think I'll be able to deliver tho' As Chthugha pointed out lower excitement is a bonus on its own since lower excitement means faster orgasm, but this also means that combined stats (since excitement is a function of girls HC, charm, and KH values) are lower, as you pointed out Samane does beat this girl. Having greater primary stat value for the girl means greater attack power and more ego for MC [all formula used are from Harem Battle club wiki, many thanks to the contributors!] [Attack Power] = [Hero's Main stat] + 3 × [Alpha's Main stat] + 1.3 × ([Beta's Main stat if in fight] + [Omega's Main stat if in fight]) [Ego] = [Endurance stat] + 11 × [Alpha's Main stat] And since many fights finish by the time first orgasm hits Beta and Omega's stats can be safely ignored in most cases I guess the question is what makes this new Legendary girl so legendary, does that extra 300 point in her main stat make her better than Samane when her defenses are lower? [Defense against X] = [Hero's X stat] / 2 + 1.5 × [Alpha's X stat] + 1.3 × ([Beta's Main stat if in fight] + [Omega's Main stat if in fight]) well, since the effect of MC's stat is halved for non-primary stats, Alpha's defensive stats do matter more, but her effects are halved as well [notice the 1.5 multiplier for defense and 3x multiplier for attack] Effectively in Levitya vs. Samane fight, Levitya has 50 point advantage at level 400 (since Samane's charm defense won't come into play) If that means anything in current system ruled by crits and type advantages I'm not so sure. On a side note, if Samane's HC stat per level was 6.5 instead of 6.25, she would be at equal footing at fighting with this legendary girl Levitya (if it wasn't for type advantage), I guess what makes this legendary girl legendary is that she is the first 5 star girl that people had to grind/pay to get? Well, she does make 500 $ more per hour for all its worth (but that requires micromanaging to pick up cash very often, if one doesn't there is more money per click for Samane lol) sorry I couldn't go more in depth, i am not all that good with numbers to be honest, I just read the wiki more often just browsing girls that I don't have ><

Have been playing game regularly several months, lvl 180+. Just did 25 refills (5555 kobans), so in total over 500 fights with Dark Lord - no drop. The drop rate 'adjusted' - what a laugh. Just goes to show how the game is now! Well that's it for me - stop playing this game now. Will give it the final few goes tonight before the end of the legendary drop, if against large odds get drop may carry on, otherwise cannot be bothered anymore. When games get this impossible who wants to play?

The developers really hate Hardcore type players, don't they? Charm and Know-How had Abrael and Samane. Both are guaranteed story drops. Both were the strongest of their respective type even with only 3 stars. The story girls were the first to get the 5 star upgrade While Hardcore characters with comparable base strength were either event-only or random boss drops of the last 2 worlds and none of them has gotten their 5 star upgrade yet. And now, when they finally introduce a strong 5 star Hardcore girl... it's a random drop only available for three days only announced a week earlier (where they even hide the fact that she'll be Hardcore) so nobody has the chance to stock up on kobans to make sure to get her. Honestly, Shagger should be renamed to Masochist

No. Just no. No way to spin this to make the devs look good. First, I believe the frustration here is not that the change was made. Changes need to made, that's fine. It's that the change was made without notice. And people have a right to be mad, because the books are less valuable. The argument that you "pay more now but pay less later" is a joke. The pivot point is level 294? Well, that's great. Take a look at the leaderboard. You see where the highest leveled player in the world is level 261? Yeah.

C'est complétement faux, merci d’éviter de balancer de telle connerie. chaque boss a son compteur "anti-poisse" pour les filles normales, et un taux de drop a part pour les filles event

OMG , JE L'AI ENFIN !!!! ( 1500 de kobans ont était dépenser pour l'avoir)

1 day left, 600 battles and nuthing. Here’s my pledge: If by the end of the event, after 700 attempts, I will not get Levitya, I will give away my only account to the first person who PMs me after the event. 209 lvl, 16.7K Hardcore, 78 girls. Cheers, drvmedia

I can live with the dark lord doing special girls. It's only for 3 or 4 days. For 3 or 4 days, might as well keep it simple and stick with the lowest guy. As an aside, at least with dark lord I don't have to worry about fighting all those times to end up with one of his normal girls as I got all three that are linked with him already. I really hope they don't make event girls for all bosses. I try to avoid those event girls that are just variants of other girls. I got 2 of them and I'd ditch them if I could. Just don't like the concept. Compared to the extremely variable number of fights to get legendary girl [from 1 to almost 800 if not more] the problem of only getting 3500 per hit for a few days is small potatos. It is a bit like the old Norm MacDonald joke on SNL about prisoners who were fighting for mail privacy, before more important things like stopping the continuous prison anal rape.

36 koban x 25 rechange = 900 refill energy bar plus 3 days x 2 free refill Over 18K fighting the Dark Lord. This is getting sad. Plus the low money reward because...yeah cheap dark lord. Could you at least move this kind of event to Sylvanu, or finalmeca, so the money reward isn't horrible?

Pourquoi pas un nouveau mode de jeu pour avoir les futures filles "légendaire" Un exemple (en image) parmi tant d'autre : NOTA : Ceci est un montage photo fait part un amateur (moi en l’occurrence), merci de ne pas juger la qualité de l'image mais plutôt son contenu, merci d'avance

The old upgrade formula per level was 5×1.0099^(CurrentLevel−1) and the new formula is 10×1.0075^(Current Level−1). So you can see that the first upgrade from level 1 to level 2 went from 5 XP to 10 XP but the rate of increase per level was reduced. In fact to go from level 399 to 400 went from 253 XP to 196 XP which is quite a bit lower. So my calculations show that to fully upgrade a new girl from level 1 to 400 went from 25427 XP to 25146 XP which is pretty close to being the same. So when the Devs say that they redistributed it, you should believe them. You feel like you are paying more now because you are. But you will be paying less later on. The pivot point is somewhere around levels 290-294. Players above 294 will now be paying less to upgrade. The fact that you have a spreadsheet shows me that you really like the game. I do too. The Devs are trying to make the game better. Even little changes causes a domino effect in the mechanics. Lets give them time to work out these new updates.

lol over 2800 Kobans spent on battle point refills and every waking momment spent on battling Dark Lord since the event started and still nuthing!!! so what happens when the event is over and those of us who have tried so freaking hard, still have nuthing!!! will kinkoid be like haha, so long and thanx for all the fish!!!!

yeah and guess what i used over 700 i saved up and another 200 i bought..36 kobans gets you 20 battles and 900 kobans gets you 25 refills which accounts to over 500 battles....and with the additional natural 7.2 refills during the event which naturally i have refilled about 6 times which is another 120 fights and since i went into this event with a total of 16 combat points i've fought her over 636 times....i think its fair to say what i've said this event is a little ridiculous

she should have been part of a 12 day event maybe she sould have been the reward for completing daily missions after 12 days. Even if the Devs just wanted people to buy kobans they should have made her easier to drop if you spent kobans

how low is the chance to get the girl? <0.5%? aaannnd after 500+ attempts still nothing. All of my kobans that were supposed to spend on easter bunny are gone. this makes me mad. but I won't quit the game... just yet

'I am so happy to see that you guys enjoy our event' Are you serious right now? I know the higher ups expect you to be polite and professional when addressing us, but please, do you have to give us the generic corporate response? Anyone that's read this thread can tell there's a lot of frustrated people and that kind of reply makes it seem like the developer and PR side doesn't take anything here seriously. (And to be honest, with how the devs have been doing whatever they feel like since February, that's probably more true than I realize.) How about responding to some of the suggestions we've made? Making this type of event into some kinda raid boss battle system Giving us an increasing drop rate chance like normal boss girls have. Putting in a mercy pull system so no one has to exceed say 500 fights to get the girl. Several ideas have been suggested, can you at least tell us if anything we've said has been considered? Or will the devs just do another event like this, in the exact same boring way?

Well une blonde claire ça me va aussi, quand c'est proche du blanc c'est de toute beauté. Mais ma préférence va aux rousses (Ou plutôt aux blondes vénitiennes, ce sont les plus beaux cheveux du monde). Enfin, après tant qu'elle est plutôt mignonne et pas casse pied toute femme me va, en général le "plutôt mignonne" c'est le critère facile, y'en a vraiment vraiment beaucoup, je suis pas trop difficile, je vais de "ça va" à "Déesse" en passant par "Belle" "Mignonne" (ils sont égaux, c'est juste deux types de filles différentes) "Magnifique" "Sublime". Et en général j'ai pas trop de succès à partir de "sublime", rarement dans les magnifiques, et j'en ai croisé dans toute ma vie, 3 de niveaux deèsse : 2 à qui je suis jamais aller parler (PUTAIN DE CON QUE JE SUIS ) et une avec qui j'ai tout fait foiré mais où de toute façon, il y avait très peu d'espoir dans tout les cas. Par contre le problème, c'est le casse pied... Déjà, une fille pas casse pied faut se l'avouer que ça n'existe pas. Une fille pas trop casse pied, non plus. Alors maintenant faut définir la limite entre "chiante" "très chiante" et le "juste insupportable".