Improve Market

[SpinelesS]

The Market is fine and all for the lower levels, but once you reach level 400+ they are just inadequate.

Potential things that could be done:

Increasing the Inventory of each store from 8 to 16 or 32 (inventory can scroll so why not the store?)

Decrease the time it takes to refresh the stores stock.

Increasing Legendary items appearance in store and decreasing Epic Items.

Creating a Mythic Level of goods.

[Stoned Jesus]

Methinks you prepared to spend kobans to get girls, am I right?

Me also thinks you not prepared to spend kobans to lvl up the girls and that would be your problem, 'cuz I just hit the refresh Market button to fix that "problem", 'cuz I am prepared to sacrifice something or get more kobans... i e make gaming desitions.

[holymolly]

7 hours ago, Stoned Jesus said:

Methinks you prepared to spend kobans to get girls, am I right?

Me also thinks you not prepared to spend kobans to lvl up the girls and that would be your problem, 'cuz I just hit the refresh Market button to fix that "problem", 'cuz I am prepared to sacrifice something or get more kobans... i e make gaming desitions.

That´s true but I f.e. would need to spent over 30k kobans in market refreshes to get the affection I´m missing for my girls to max out and while that is the way a lot of veterans and whale may be able to do I wouldn´t consider myself to be able to do so and I´m playing the game daily for over 3 years now.

A good idea imo would be to just offer the 50% market restock discount once I a while as a special offer rather than those stupid 50% off for avatars or energy no one needs.   I feel like offering it once or twice a year wouldn´t hurt KK too much either since a lot of people like me would gladly use it and thus spent thousands of koban on it which should benefit both KK and the gameplay in the long run

 

[Stoned Jesus]

2 hours ago, holymolly said:

That´s true but I f.e. would need to spent over 30k kobans in market refreshes to get the affection I´m missing for my girls to max out and while that is the way a lot of veterans and whale may be able to do I wouldn´t consider myself to be able to do so and I´m playing the game daily for over 3 years now.

A good idea imo would be to just offer the 50% market restock discount once I a while as a special offer rather than those stupid 50% off for avatars or energy no one needs.   I feel like offering it once or twice a year wouldn´t hurt KK too much either since a lot of people like me would gladly use it and thus spent thousands of koban on it which should benefit both KK and the gameplay in the long run

 

30k kobans...if @400+ and played less than 2 years... and if you pay all at one go, yes. But no need to be whale or veteran or even have monthcard to get that tho. Just play "don't waste" kobans on "saving" time and do the work it takes to win all easy daily contest. If you use silver or gold monthly card... skip that for a few month and buy a plat card instead, and you'll get half price on restocking...

Claiming only whales or... is just bad excuse for gaming bad. If you don't use kobans well, you'll never have enough for your needs.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Stoned Jesus

[holymolly]

2 hours ago, Stoned Jesus said:

30k kobans...if @400+ and played less than 2 years... and if you pay all at one go, yes. But no need to be whale or veteran or even have monthcard to get that tho. Just play "don't waste" kobans on "saving" time and do the work it takes to win all easy daily contest. If you use silver or gold monthly card... skip that for a few month and buy a plat card instead, and you'll get half price on restocking...

Claiming only whales or... is just bad excuse for gaming bad. If you don't use kobans well, you'll never have enough for your needs.

Calling someone you don´t know a bad player is a bold statement (for your interest: I never had a plat card nor do I really buy any card and I still manage to do single fights.. so I´m usually not "wasting kobans" on time saves as you´d like to say )

I never said anything about it being impossible to achieve for a casual player(which wouldn´t even need refills to begin with) or it being a bad idea(just look at the first 3 words of my post ).. it just feels like a waste of resources to me resetting the market for affection, I´d rather use them on girls that´s also part of the reason why I´m so behind it. What I meant by "I wouldn´t consider myself able to do so" was more like not willing to do so rather than not having the ability (that may have been bad wording from my side).  

The main message of my previous post wasn´t the "30k kobans" part but rather the suggestion that KK could offer a discount for it in the future like they do sometimes with avatars or energy for special holidays and that those( market refill discounts) would be significantly more helpful for both parties since I believe it would offer a better/higher return for both parties.

Another point is that imo market resets aren´t nessessary for people that haven´t been play the game for a long time because they need their kobans for more important things.. but let´s just leave it at that since I don´t feel the need to discuss it further with someone that called himself  a "kind of noob lvl at these types of games"  

It´s not the first time that I see replies of you where I think that you didn´t read the messages you reply to begin with.

[SpinelesS]

13 hours ago, Stoned Jesus said:

Methinks you prepared to spend kobans to get girls, am I right?

Me also thinks you not prepared to spend kobans to lvl up the girls and that would be your problem, 'cuz I just hit the refresh Market button to fix that "problem", 'cuz I am prepared to sacrifice something or get more kobans... i e make gaming desitions.

I'm level 474, I have 577 Girls. Even if I only used my kobans on store refreshes, I still wouldn't have enough to complete all my girls affection and level them up.

[Stoned Jesus]

@hollymolly sorry, I'm on to many diffrent forums to keep track of ppl. Also this has some weird unofficial rules I don't care enough about to learn on keeping track of whole forum ... guess it's 'cuz porngame is no "real" game hence... more is always better as in easy lvl for all... expected attitude I've found confirmed in clubs I've been in on my accounts in time I've played on this... as I consider, fun game. But I , and ... guestimated 20-25 % of players still PLAY the game kinda seriously as in... we want a challenge , not just more to do.

@SpinelesS Yeah, It's not cheap, but you know... Kinkoid gotta make money some way... so only whales get everything.

Also, I find it very tricky to communicate in a game without ingame private msg system expt clubchat. Me guessing thats 'cuz porn to.  But add loss of old weekly competitons that had list of ALL players with links to them.

Methinks Kinkoid should have new Weekly thing way higher on prio list than fixing problems that casual players have with leveling up all their girls.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Stoned Jesus

[Kenrae]

1 hour ago, Stoned Jesus said:

Methinks Kinkoid should have new Weekly thing way higher on prio list than fixing problems that casual players have with leveling up all their girls.

It's not casual players the ones who have problems levelling up all their girls, it's the hardcore players who have more than 500 girls and are at a level higher than 450. It explodes exponentially.

[Stoned Jesus]

I know, that's the challenge.

Pay or face soft roof.

That's how I read Kinkoid language.. for whatever that's worth. Me speak swinglish... maybe it's french/english movie trope thingy ???, but I smell somekind of that "rudeness" in this forum. but maybe just me overanal

WARNING me bit stereotyping 2 ppl here. 'cuz me no want to point finger that obvious but 'cuz no ingame pers msg... blame Kinkoid... forces me to..

... from that perspective, me swinglishspeaking,  I'd like could maybe use @DvDivXXX and @GeorgeMTO, hopefully not confusing personalities to much... sorry dudes if, I find the vid dude a bit rude and frankly annoyingly policing for a pgame and no problem at all with George , he's fair and strait. but in this forum weirdly many others react almost opposite to me when they're kinda doing the same thing.

That's me overanal from lurking here ... "weekly" for 18 month. for what's that's worth... if it's worth... me also thinks this would be better in Forum suggestion thread, but me starting that subject there... that WOULD anal, methinks.

So, kindly as I can... maybe Dvd or George could instead... while leaving this here, so I CAN FIND IT AGAIN, don't delete it... 'cuz Reasons. ,,  TRANSLATE that "read between the lines"-message to that thread, 'cuz methinks that could be a good thing worth doing... 'cuz no ingame personal msg thingy.

methinks Me done here now.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Stoned Jesus

[DvDivXXX]

2 hours ago, Stoned Jesus said:

methinks Me done here now.

You are, but not in the way you might think. It's not mandatory to be perfectly fluent in English to post in this forum, but please keep the language barrier in mind when you interact with people in this language you don't understand too well yourself. In particular, don't assume people are being rude when they're just using a phrasing or word you're not familiar with. Perhaps post less but work a bit more on what you do post, so that it's clearer for other users.

Also please don't ping mods for no valid reason. We are not available for pro bono translation work. And there's nothing that requires moderation in this thread as of this writing. Just take it easy, and if you get upset, remember it's probably a misunderstanding due to your level in English. Cheers.

[Pelinor]

@holymolly, Making the market work for as long as possible requires either early dedication or massive catchup runs in the refresh cycle. I saw very early that the market wouldn't work as designed (using no kobans and waiting for the free refreshes) when it comes to raising affection or leveling up the girls. My solution was to double the refresh rate (using kobans).

I tend to agree that something should be done to rebalance the market, but no suggestion made by myself or others has even received a "we'll take that under advisement" response. So, much like the awesome ideas and input made with the ToF, even if we came up with a total rework of the Market complete with coding and images, I'm not holding my breath on a fix anytime in the near future.

[holymolly]

16 minutes ago, Pelinor said:

@holymolly, Making the market work for as long as possible requires either early dedication or massive catchup runs in the refresh cycle. I saw very early that the market wouldn't work as designed (using no kobans and waiting for the free refreshes) when it comes to raising affection or leveling up the girls. My solution was to double the refresh rate (using kobans).

I tend to agree that something should be done to rebalance the market, but no suggestion made by myself or others has even received a "we'll take that under advisement" response. So, much like the awesome ideas and input made with the ToF, even if we came up with a total rework of the Market complete with coding and images, I'm not holding my breath on a fix anytime in the near future.

I´m neither but I still feel like KK is at least slowly understanding that we need more affection / xp (f.e. KC changes that where made after the first one; it obviously isn´t enough but still at least something I guess) .. so maybe they´ll start listening to some feedback regarding this issue as well (not that I expect it though but still )

[Kenrae]

58 minutes ago, Pelinor said:

@holymolly, Making the market work for as long as possible requires either early dedication or massive catchup runs in the refresh cycle. I saw very early that the market wouldn't work as designed (using no kobans and waiting for the free refreshes) when it comes to raising affection or leveling up the girls. My solution was to double the refresh rate (using kobans).

I tend to agree that something should be done to rebalance the market, but no suggestion made by myself or others has even received a "we'll take that under advisement" response. So, much like the awesome ideas and input made with the ToF, even if we came up with a total rework of the Market complete with coding and images, I'm not holding my breath on a fix anytime in the near future.

I made a ToF prizes rework with all the calculations to be sure it wasn't a loss for KK. All work done, they only had to change their tables, it was an easy implemenation I'm sure. People seemed to like it too. But no change on that front so far.

I know I won't be making that kind of effort again.

[holymolly]

2 hours ago, Kenrae said:

I made a ToF prizes rework with all the calculations to be sure it wasn't a loss for KK. All work done, they only had to change their tables, it was an easy implemenation I'm sure. People seemed to like it too. But no change on that front so far.

I know I won't be making that kind of effort again.

I remember that post! I felt like it was a really good idea.. especially since high lv players wouldn´t be inclined to go down to D2 or D1 but rather stay in D3 which than again would benefit the "lower lv" players especially in the long run and KK wouldn´t really need to give out more kobans but  instead they would have introduced a fairer balance for all  .... even though KK maybe didn´t appreciate the work I´m sure a lot of  players,other than me, did appreciate the work you had put in !

[Korokun]

Being the Devil's Advocate, because obviously I like to stir shit up, and sometime for giggling reasons, but quoting SpinelesS:

On 5/17/2021 at 2:44 PM, SpinelesS said:

I'm level 474, I have 577 Girls. Even if I only used my kobans on store refreshes, I still wouldn't have enough to complete all my girls affection and level them up.

If they just implemented that as a bonus with the plat card, i'd more then happily buy it. Meaning if it's a free refresh without accidentally clicking it twice then yes it's all worth it after you pay said amount or get it free with the membership.

Edit: There's two reasons why SpinelesS said what he said -

1. Yemen will run out.

2. Can't farm yemen on a daily basis unless Club Champ or Champ and that still requires Kobans.

If Yemen was added as a gift on top of Kobans it would be a win - win.

And as for your PVP context, I'm still struggling with Dicktator 2 even if I ninja'd my way up to to the top only to blow my load early and be absolutely useless at the last 2 days of it. But soon, soon, i'll rise again. (Dick puns aside)

That was the reason for the 'crazy man' upstairs comment on level + total girls + total stats of girls / number of girls. I'm not crazy. I know I can read into this formula.

But yes for shits and giggles, why don't Kinkoid just implement it with their plat card? It kills two birds with one stone.

Mind you I'm only level 318, and have no trouble holding my own with boosters. Plus yes I aim for Mythics any chance I get.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Korokun

[Kenrae]

7 hours ago, Korokun said:

Being the Devil's Advocate, because obviously I like to stir shit up, and sometime for giggling reasons, but quoting SpinelesS:

If they just implemented that as a bonus with the plat card, i'd more then happily buy it. Meaning if it's a free refresh without accidentally clicking it twice then yes it's all worth it after you pay said amount or get it free with the membership.

Edit: There's two reasons why SpinelesS said what he said -

1. Yemen will run out.

2. Can't farm yemen on a daily basis unless Club Champ or Champ and that still requires Kobans.

If Yemen was added as a gift on top of Kobans it would be a win - win.

And as for your PVP context, I'm still struggling with Dicktator 2 even if I ninja'd my way up to to the top only to blow my load early and be absolutely useless at the last 2 days of it. But soon, soon, i'll rise again. (Dick puns aside)

That was the reason for the 'crazy man' upstairs comment on level + total girls + total stats of girls / number of girls. I'm not crazy. I know I can read into this formula.

But yes for shits and giggles, why don't Kinkoid just implement it with their plat card? It kills two birds with one stone.

Mind you I'm only level 318, and have no trouble holding my own with boosters. Plus yes I aim for Mythics any chance I get.

Ymen would be the last thing to run out, we have bilions of them at high levels.

[Korokun]

Good to know.

[SpinelesS]

18 hours ago, Korokun said:

Good to know.

Yeah it's because of Places of Power, and 10x Great Pachinko Orbs.

Since the price of equipment increases with your level, Rare equipment sells for over 3 Mil, and the legendary equipment for over 20 Mil

 

Though I think they may have dropped the selling price a bit, because I was sure I got a lot more than that previously...

Edited May 21, 2021 by SpinelesS