Tristelune Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 8 hours ago, trunks2585 said: So I see quite a few interesting comments being left here. "Drop rate for boss girls go up if you pull an event girl from pachinco." "Drop rate goes up everytime you DON'T pull a boss girl from a troll battle that has boss girls to get" "Event girls have better drop rates" "Drop rates go down for every boss girl you have" "Drop raes go down in general for every girl you have" Can we get some posts and evidence and links to when the devs said any of this? All I recall them saying was drop rates got buffed in the september update. Right now I feel like a lot of false statements are floating around and causing confusion. Information is spread in Discord (both FR and EN) and forums (hentaiheroes.com FR and EN, as well as harem-battle.club. Good luck to the one who will try to gather post and evidences. "Drop rate for boss girls go up if you pull an event girl from pachinco." >> wrong "Drop rate goes up everytime you DON'T pull a boss girl from a troll battle that has boss girls to get" >> true "Event girls have better drop rates" >> true, in a way. In fact, Event girl have a separate system to determine their drop rate (in fact: a fixed value). Depending on the other factors mentionned in this post, a regular girl could have higher drop rate. But in general, event girls are more likely to drop. "Drop rates go down for every boss girl you have" >> true "Drop raes go down in general for every girl you have" >> wrong. Only regular boss girls are accounted. Event boss girls are not, nor any other girl (pachinko exclusive, world girls, etc.) Also, some core cogs of the overall drop system were bugged, resulted in less drop than intended during the past 2 months (since august big update). The bug was fixed today. Girls should drop easierly from now (but might still require several day or even a few weeks). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks2585 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 There's a discord? Is it patreons only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meraginasu Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 il y a une heure, trunks2585 a dit : There's a discord? Is it patreons only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Vincent Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Tristelune said: "Drop rates go down for every boss girl you have" >> true Do you also happen to know whether this is dependent on only how many from that specific boss you already have, or on the number of girls you already have from all bosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang91 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Well I had 34 girls, and after starting into the latest stage/world and battling the boss for a few days I managed to get one more, So other than the fact it's now going to take A LOT of work to rank her up, I doubt the drop rate is much worse than it all ready was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristelune Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Real Vincent said: Do you also happen to know whether this is dependent on only how many from that specific boss you already have, or on the number of girls you already have from all bosses? It's the total number of girls you already have from all bosses. Also, contrary to a popular belief, the drop rate is the same for every boss. Two last pieces of information: - Dropping a (non event) boss girl from the epic pachinko reset the counter for the number of boss battle without dropping a girl. It effectively count the pachinko drop as a regular drop. - In epic Pachinko, event girl have 3 times more chance to drop than normal girl, and permanent epic pachinko girl have 1.5 times more chance to drop than normal girl. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_HH Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) As Tristelune already said, apparently our lack of luck was bug related and it's already fixed. Quoting Kinkoid from the Resurrecting Halloween! topic: " -A bug in the counting of the Boss fight system has been fixed." Since the start of the event I was exclusively fighting Dark Lord (a boss who had already dropped all regular girls) to get Halloween Juliette, and immediately after Halloween Juliette dropped, first time I fight Bremen, I get this beauty: What's the chance of getting two girls in a row even when they are from two different drop pools (event and regular)? I've been reading, here and on other topics, that non event bosses' girls have been starting to drop again since this new event started. How have the rest of no-luck guys been doing since the debugging? Could we conclude that this matter has been fixed? Edited October 26, 2017 by Jack_HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyveggie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Maybe fixed, maybe not. In fact, I pulled Leedit yesterday, and i am quite happy about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Took Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Good God!! Addiction!!? We all need to get out more... mow the lawns, go for a long jog, or go fishing, maybe even go to work - or do some of you play the game at work!? Tsk tsk. I have four games running and speaking of fishing, after all my mowns about the drops drying up I must have dropped my hook into a passing school of tuna cos, over two days I picked up Pelagie from Donatien in my newest game, Leeditt from Sylvanus in my third, Cunegond from Bremen in my second and (yay!), in my first, that hottie I spoke of a day ago, hoping I'd get her. She's Salem, dropped from Finalmecia. So it does seem about right; it's a dropped girl from the bosses around once a month. I just needed to be more patient, but I bet players at the casino have the same delusion. In my first game I have 30 girls and this may influence the drop rates, although rewards seems greater the more you achieve, apart from the payouts of 30 or more girls,... like an automatic update on Red Battler and Ankyo to all five affection stars (except I need well over 6m bucks to get Ankyo). I'm after Marina from Bremen as she's a know-how girl and she'd boost my stats. One thing though, I've hit a brick wall in Plain of Rituals after completing Rivalry quest. It says 'Coming soon'. Any word on when this world will be completed? I'm not too worried. It will give me a chance to go back to Gruntt and the Dark Lord and pick up a few earlier girls perhaps, and maybe get some chores done! I have thought of a constructive suggestion... Maybe battling the bosses should get progressively much harder requiring of those players advanced along the journey to have to tweek their girls and equipment more to stay competitive, even having to buy boosters, but these are now VERY expensive for the rare and epic items. One last thing... The third quest in the Trick or Treat mission is a total rip off of The Ring (or Ringu) and maybe that girl should be renamed Samara! C'mon guys. You need to be more original! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristelune Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Peregrine Took said: So it does seem about right; it's a dropped girl from the bosses around once a month. It's not. You can get more girls per months. But now that they fixed the bug, theoretically, you should *at least* drop one girl per month. 8 hours ago, Peregrine Took said: like an automatic update on Red Battler and Ankyo to all five affection stars (except I need well over 6m bucks to get Ankyo). It was not a reward, but a leftover of the 15,000 affection given to them if you played pre-HH 2.0. 8 hours ago, Peregrine Took said: One thing though, I've hit a brick wall in Plain of Rituals after completing Rivalry quest. It says 'Coming soon'. Any word on when this world will be completed? They try to deliver a new chapter every 2 or 3 weeks but are facing delay on this one. Latest information about next chapter put it on 8th of November. About the whole of world 9, we have no estimate time of delivery. But you shouldn't count on it before 2018. 8 hours ago, Peregrine Took said: One last thing... The third quest in the Trick or Treat mission is a total rip off of The Ring (or Ringu) and maybe that girl should be renamed Samara! C'mon guys. You need to be more original! Sadako / Samara was not a porn star, unlike Vissihar, who can now be obtained from Epic Pachinko. Most - if not all - of HH girls are rip off of one or more sources. It's inherent to the parodic aspect of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Took Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Parody? What a euphemism for a rip off. There a some real parodies in the stories for each quest and they can be laugh-out-loud funny, but this one isn't. It seems too out of context. Re. Epic Pachinko, does this mean that it is possible to re-acquire a girl who has already dropped and so double-up? It's hard enough as it is to win anything worthwhile in this game as it is for the expenditure of kobans. 2018 for Plain of Rituals to be complete? Shame, it has real potential as an interesting story, the thing that makes me enjoy playing this game and congrats to the team for progress on it so far. Lenaëlle's dark expression of acute embarrassment when Bunny outed her as a virgin was priceless. I'm keen to know the outcome of this little disclosure and how she ends up being deflowered, or if she does. I assume she does because she'll end up in my harem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meraginasu Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 il y a 7 minutes, Peregrine Took a dit : Re. Epic Pachinko, does this mean that it is possible to re-acquire a girl who has already dropped and so double-up? No, you can't drop a girl you've already dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brimmeke Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 20-10-2017 at 10:13 PM, dirtyveggie said: But i am, and i am sure i am not the only one. This means, that they lied to us. Deal with it. i'l wait untill the event ends and see if i get any girl...weird thing happend got out of the tunnels full pussy's and suddenly princess noemy apierce and text goes like collect your price and i'm like wooooo whate i get a princess?? locked at my harem no princess whaaaaaat is this a bug or whate?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 It's good to have new girl on my harem, but new girl means another million(s) of money to expense for rising her affection to the max. And the highest source of my income is from fighting latest world boss. Event will slow it down, since I farm event girl (they are limited, not know when availablw again, so farm it), usually from dark lord, who gave smallest amount of money. So positive side is a month or more without girl joining my harem means more time to get and save money. Negative side, it's boring AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupazbita Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 another day of the event , and NO girl .. I fight with dark lord but have already posability to beat Finalmecia... wonder if I will drop event girl ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damoncord Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 On 10/27/2017 at 7:27 PM, brimmeke said: i'l wait untill the event ends and see if i get any girl...weird thing happend got out of the tunnels full pussy's and suddenly princess noemy apierce and text goes like collect your price and i'm like wooooo whate i get a princess?? locked at my harem no princess whaaaaaat is this a bug or whate?? I'm guessing you finish "The Final Castle" quest but haven't done "Reward" after that one finishes you get Noemy added to your harem. The quest "Reward" is you getting your reward from Princess Noemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichoras13 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 there shouldnt even be drop rates in my opinion. should have a number of times said troll has to be hit in order to get a girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fapfox Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 On 26.10.2017 at 7:04 PM, Jack_HH said: Since the start of the event I was exclusively fighting Dark Lord (a boss who had already dropped all regular girls) to get Halloween Juliette, and immediately after Halloween Juliette dropped, first time I fight Bremen, I get this beauty: What's the chance of getting two girls in a row even when they are from two different drop pools (event and regular)? Happened to me thrice already since the update in August. In the September event, I was farming Edwarda to get the event girl Teacher Deitra (I already had all of Edwarda's regular girls) after I got her I switched to Dark Lord to get the event girl Justine but instantly got the last of his regular girls I was missing on the first try: Arcana It took me ages to get the event girl, but after I got her and switched to Donatien, I immediately got Pelagie from him on the first try. And just two days ago while farming Dark Lord for Halloween Juliette, I once accidentally fought Bremen (because that's the world I'm doing the story right now) and yup, I got Stephanie at that single try. So my conclusion is and to answer your question, "the chance of getting two girls in a row even when they are from two different drop pools (event and regular)?", is very high, because even if you are fighting bosses you have got all girls from already, it still boosts your regular-girl-drop-chance and can get close to 100%, so you instantly get a girl once you go back to a boss with girls to drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Took Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I have a bit of a query. A real enigma has emerged. I just had a go in the arena and was checking out an opponent's team and I'll be damned!! He's got Lenaëlle! I was so annoyed I had to beat him! I can't even get past Rivalry because the game ends after this quest has been completed. Can someone explain how someone is able to get to the seventh quest in this world when I'm shut out? I worked out I will need to complete at least another four quests in Plain of Rituals before I can claim Lenaëlle, but the game would have to resume first. However, it seems the development team are working on getting it underway because, in my each of my earliest two games where I have reached Plain of Rituals, a strange bluish-grey magical sphere dropped. It had a diffuse image of Finalmecia in it. When I hovered the mouse over it, a long rectangle which would normally contain text appeared, but it was blank. I am assuming these two spheres were drop items needed to defeat Finalmecia in conflicts with her. Oh well, a sneak preview indeed. They did not appear below Finalmecia's battle team display as yet so I am assuming the unexpected drops were a try out for when the next quest is ready for us to play. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meraginasu Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 il y a 15 minutes, Peregrine Took a dit : I have a bit of a query. A real enigma has emerged. I just had a go in the arena and was checking out an opponent's team and I'll be damned!! He's got Lenaëlle! I was so annoyed I had to beat him! I can't even get past Rivalry because the game ends after this quest has been completed. Can someone explain how someone is able to get to the seventh quest in this world when I'm shut out? I worked out I will need to complete at least another four quests in Plain of Rituals before I can claim Lenaëlle, but the game would have to resume first. However, it seems the development team are working on getting it underway because, in my each of my earliest two games where I have reached Plain of Rituals, a strange bluish-grey magical sphere dropped. It had a diffuse image of Finalmecia in it. When I hovered the mouse over it, a long rectangle which would normally contain text appeared, but it was blank. I am assuming these two spheres were drop items needed to defeat Finalmecia in conflicts with her. Oh well, a sneak preview indeed. They did not appear below Finalmecia's battle team display as yet so I am assuming the unexpected drops were a try out for when the next quest is ready for us to play. Can't wait! Some opponents you see in the arena are not real players but bots, that's why you can see people in the arena having Lenaëlle, those are not real people but bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Took Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Wow, high-tech cheating. I am aware that there are websites that allow people to cheat in this game, but this is very poor form and defeats the fun of the game. I have a problem with the bot argument, though. If the last five quests have not been developed yet, how could anyone, bots included, be able to gain the information needed to cheat the system (apart from winning Edna, Zoe and Salem)? It would have to be an inside job from among the development team, I would suggest. The bot argument makes sense, though, because the choice of girls for the opponent's specialty was completely wrong. His specialty was charm while his alpha girl was an expert. This was a dumb selection and was what I was like before I understood how to play the game. I beat him easily, bot or no bot. The other puzzle to me was how an opponent could amass 33,000 ego and 10,000 attack power points and be at only XP level 95. There is no chance for me to defeat such an opponent. Some equipment might get you so far, but not this much. Some cheating is afoot! Any word on when genuine players will be able to progress through Plain of Rituals to collect a genuine Lenaëlle? However, I'm much more keen to see how the story unfolds and whether these heroes (including me I suppose) actually treat Lenaëlle with tenderness, gentleness and respect, and not treat this virgin as just another sex object to be conquered and abused. I saw her very dark (almost comical) reaction when Bunny thought it was such a great joke that she's a virgin. This was really well drawn and indicates how a few well placed-hatch strokes down the face can convey so much - an artistic masterpiece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damoncord Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, Peregrine Took said: Wow, high-tech cheating. I am aware that there are websites that allow people to cheat in this game, but this is very poor form and defeats the fun of the game. I have a problem with the bot argument, though. If the last five quests have not been developed yet, how could anyone, bots included, be able to gain the information needed to cheat the system (apart from winning Edna, Zoe and Salem)? It would have to be an inside job from among the development team, I would suggest. The bot argument makes sense, though, because the choice of girls for the opponent's specialty was completely wrong. His specialty was charm while his alpha girl was an expert. This was a dumb selection and was what I was like before I understood how to play the game. I beat him easily, bot or no bot. The other puzzle to me was how an opponent could amass 33,000 ego and 10,000 attack power points and be at only XP level 95. There is no chance for me to defeat such an opponent. Some equipment might get you so far, but not this much. Some cheating is afoot! Any word on when genuine players will be able to progress through Plain of Rituals to collect a genuine Lenaëlle? However, I'm much more keen to see how the story unfolds and whether these heroes (including me I suppose) actually treat Lenaëlle with tenderness, gentleness and respect, and not treat this virgin as just another sex object to be conquered and abused. I saw her very dark (almost comical) reaction when Bunny thought it was such a great joke that she's a virgin. This was really well drawn and indicates how a few well placed-hatch strokes down the face can convey so much - an artistic masterpiece! It's not really high tech cheating, the bots were put in for people to fight in case there were no players of the appropriate level for you to fight. They have a random set of girls the secret is bots exist from the first level up but there are real people scattered throughout the levels so you may never see them. BTW the bots were MADE by the Devs for you to beat on. the Ego 33,000 isn't that unusual I've just hit level 60 and am at Ego 29,713. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Took Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Okay, fair explanation. This explains the poor selection of harem girls for their specialty. As I progressed up the levels in my second game to overtake my first, I was in the peculiar position of battling against myself in the arena in one instance! How the heck did you get to that ego level at level 69? I suppose you could buy boosters, but they only take you so far. In my experience, to equip yourself to boost certain attributes, almost invariably means you lose out in other areas so one has to choose which direction to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel84 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Do we have actuall numbers for the formula for how much the girls you already have decrease your chances from getting a girl and how much it increases from each attempt not resulting in getting a girl? Becuase this whole system comes across as the devs not wanting players to stick around as it appears to punish folks with alot of girls for no obvious benefit to the long term player. Between the cost increase for affection scenes and items and the cost increase for other items, and with the fact that alot of income can come more from beating later stage bosses than than the girls themselves. I can make about 90k an hour fighting bremen or finalmecia, which is faster than what my 38 girls can produce. I am not wasting any battle energy during the days, only losing out when I sleep at night, and currently no luck in getting any girls from the this event or the last one. RNG has rarely favored me so anything that reduces my already abysmal luck is quite frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natstar Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rommel84 said: Do we have actuall numbers for the formula for how much the girls you already have decrease your chances from getting a girl and how much it increases from each attempt not resulting in getting a girl? Becuase this whole system comes across as the devs not wanting players to stick around as it appears to punish folks with alot of girls for no obvious benefit to the long term player. Between the cost increase for affection scenes and items and the cost increase for other items, and with the fact that alot of income can come more from beating later stage bosses than than the girls themselves. I can make about 90k an hour fighting bremen or finalmecia, which is faster than what my 38 girls can produce. I am not wasting any battle energy during the days, only losing out when I sleep at night, and currently no luck in getting any girls from the this event or the last one. RNG has rarely favored me so anything that reduces my already abysmal luck is quite frustrating. Only boss girls reduce your chance of getting other boss girls even event girls that drop from bosses do not decrease your chance however your chance of getting one to drop increases every time you fail to get one but if you get a boss girl from epic pachinko it also resets your chance of getting another one to a lower drop chance every time you get one and you have to get a bunch of failed attempts at getting one to drop to increase your chance high enough to be able to get another one after your first boss drop from dark lord your chance of getting one goes down a lot. Edited November 9, 2017 by natstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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