Lady Al Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 The only thing I am wondering about is whether it might be smart to play Charm, but equally distribute your stats (rather than mono items). Not sure though, maths isn't really my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherandai Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, PlusIon said: You might be missing that the special ability is tied to the Harem girl and not the player. If I am a Charm Player and put a HardCore girl in as my beta... I will get the 1.5X modifier when she uses her special ability. and losing defence and attack power. i missed nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superboy Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 The new system is just catastrophic for Charm players. Switching to another speciality will become a necessity. Narcissism should TRIPLE the defense (at least) to balance this system. Otherwise it's Game Over for Charm. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 what i really want to know before judging balancing or other content is if the patchnotes are complete and correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den8386 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 спасибо за такой пач очень понравилось прикольно звучит.желаю вам удачи и чтоб побольши хороших пачов выпустили Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpermDemon Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I won't be doing any pvp after this patch for sure. Crits are only thing allowing me to win anything as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Al Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, SpermDemon said: I won't be doing any pvp after this patch for sure. Crits are only thing allowing me to win anything as it is. As far as I understand the crit chance isn't going down (it's still a 50% combined chance), it's just that you can now influence it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GokuB Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 when will the servers be fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotless Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 All those battle changes man but the fights still remain automatic and all i have to do is click "skip battle" and be done with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherandai Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, dirty harry said: Let's see if I understand this correctly. KH gets a bonus of 6000 (if they survive the next blow) HC gets a bonus of (minimal) 6000-11500 immediately C gets a bonus of (minimal) 5000-12000 immediately So KH is screwed. And if you are smart you will fight with HC girls only, no matter what your avatar's class is. What? How do you even get those numbers? KH gets 10% of max ego, which is higher then 50% attack, which is over double as much as 100% of defence. KH gets the strongest benefit, HC isn't far behind KH, and C is just royally fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign RHB Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Asherandai said: What? How do you even get those numbers? Just following the example provided by Saberbholt. And please, I wasn't stating anything. I was asking a question. Civility would be appreciated. Edited April 16, 2018 by dirty harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superboy Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 HC applies immediatly. KH and C applies the next round (and sometimes there will be no next round). So between KH and HC... I don't know what's the better. What is sure, Charm is totally dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherandai Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, dirty harry said: Just following the example provided by Saberholt. And please, I wasn't stating anything. I was asking a question. Civility would be appreciated. I apologise for coming across as uncivil. It was my genuine reaction to the most random series of numbers I think I have ever seen. I have absolutely no idea how saberholt got his numbers either. None of it even remotely relates to what is in the game, or even what is in the patch notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign RHB Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Asherandai said: I apologise for coming across as uncivil. It was my genuine reaction to the most random series of numbers I think I have ever seen. I have absolutely no idea how saberholt got his numbers either. None of it even remotely relates to what is in the game, or even what is in the patch notes. As I understand Saberbholt used his own actual numbers as an example. Well, I'm just too lazy to do the math. I Guess we will have to wait till Wednesday when I assume the changes will take effect. Jessiechan didn't mention this in the patchnotes but it usually is Wednesday 4.00 AM GMT. Edited April 16, 2018 by dirty harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlusIon Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, Superboy said: Otherwise it's Game Over for Charm. Charm Players have the strongest girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberbholt Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) Yes Harry is completly correct, Hardcore have the most stronger bonus in lucky strike. Remenber me the world of warcraft pvp system class, every 3 or 4 month's changes for nerf one class and overpower other with the excuse of balancing the system, (koans for change class you know), nobody can't make a system some that , probe in server and thing "ok is fine"... or 2 pages of the Patch notes are lost in transaction... Every one like to see the system is so easy, simulate in paper 3 rolls of a copy of your stats in battle and see the numbers. For make enemys renember, move the stats , your alpha, beta and celta stat to the correct class, and ego is the some of yours (because have the some alpha numbers in primary stat) Edited April 16, 2018 by saberbholt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherandai Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Just now, PlusIon said: Charm Players have the strongest girls. incorrect. Know-How players have the strongest standard girl, and if they got it during the event Hardcore players have the strongest girl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherandai Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, saberbholt said: Yes Harry is completly correct, Hardcore have the most stronger bonus in lucky strike. Remenber me the world of warcraft pvp system class, every 3 or 4 month's changes for nerf one class and overpower other with the excuse of balancing the system, (koans for change class you know), nobody can't make a system some that , probe in server and thing "ok is fine"... or 2 pages of the Patch notes are lost in transaction... Every one like to see the system is so easy, simulate in paper 3 rolls of a copy of yoiur stats in battle and see the numbers You must not be very good at math. "Lv237 maxed out all stat purchases, guys, and gear (excepting purple gear cause it never shows up) Ego: 131,000 10% of 131,000 is 13,100 Attack: 23,000 Half of 23,000 is 12,500. Which means Hardcore gets 600 less gain than Know-how Defence: 4,800 Do I even need to explain how far below 12,500 that is?" Since you didn't read it the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign RHB Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Asherandai said: incorrect. Know-How players have the strongest standard girl, and if they got it during the event Hardcore players have the strongest girl. Incorrect. Zorba the geek has the stongest girls. He has six accounts and two of them are from the ladies in his household. And they are strong enough to not play anymore. lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuzuka Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) Am I the only one who doesn't like the art for the new girls? Mavin's eyes look way too big for her face, Noomye's skin colour has a weird contrast with her hair colour and they both have hair styles that don't seem quite right either. Also, what kind of names are Mavin, Venam and Noomye anyway? Edited April 16, 2018 by Inuzuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherandai Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, dirty harry said: Incorrect. Zorba the geek has the stongest girls. He has six accounts and two of them are from the ladies in his household. And they are strong enough to not play anymore. lol errr... what? Sorry, I'm not sure if that was a joke I didn't understand, or a serious comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign RHB Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) It was a joke. That's what the lol is for. btw: you might want to edit your post 4 up. (too late. it's been quoted) Edited April 16, 2018 by dirty harry too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberbholt Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Asherandai said: You must not be very good at math. "Lv237 maxed out all stat purchases, guys, and gear (excepting purple gear cause it never shows up) Ego: 131,000 10% of 131,000 is 13,100 Attack: 23,000 Half of 23,000 is 12,500. Which means Hardcore gets 600 less gain than Know-how Defence: 4,800 Do I even need to explain how far below 12,500 that is?" Since you didn't read it the first time. i use My stats main in the 3 classes, with actual girls / equipment / pruchase stats for see the diference in the "balanced system, and you can see here with how is in the 3 classes in a lucky strike: know-how class hardcore class charm class hardcore stats 5035-8629 Hardcore stats 12285-15878 how-know stats 5102-8696 charm stats 5102-8696 How-know stats 5035-8629 charm stats 12285-15878 know-how stats 12285-15878 charm stats 5102-8696 Hardcore stats 5035-8629 ego 60035 healing 6003 Total damage 18427-23817 parrity damage hardcore 10204-17392 damage to how-know 22296- 28580 charm 10137-17325 know-how 10070-17258 Use the maths of the pach x 2 for charm parrity, x1.5 hard damage and the 10% healing (no damage) of know-how and you see in lucky "strikes" that' are the values for see in combat how do you correst. Only need to make then in paper a simulation give 2 of thats enemy's and six sides roll, for 1 to 4 normal, for 5-6 lucky strike, until to ego are 0. Is funny (remember randomyce too who make first roll). You are charm and have 16322 of alpha stat, 1722 hardcore and 1290 know-how, , see the defense / attack, and for compare a enemy some you in other class move your charm to hardcore, the hardcore to how-know and the know-how to cram stat. The ego / lucky is the same. Them use thats formules of patch notes for see how unbalanced are in one class and the other the combat. Edited April 16, 2018 by saberbholt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatGuy Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 First post from me, likely last post as well. Since the errors that have plagued a lot of players did not disappear yet and only got renamed I am skeptical about events and changes since.. if the game itself becomes less playable due to errors, a lot of people that are or were on the fence about spending anything on the game will simply jump ship and forget about this without even bothering to bring it up. Combat changes that might alter the whole thing? We'll see. But if the errors persist? I'll be leaving. Sure, no one will care about me bringing this up. But I am pretty sure people less patient then me already did and people more patient then me will leave after me if the server errors keep happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masters Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Goddess am I glad I don't have to worry about all this PvP stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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