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This. I'll throw an example out there. Periodically we have events with daily missions exclusive to the event. If you complete a certain number of the daily events, you win an award at the end of the event. People who don't finish these events don't get the reward. You can do some of the events and make progress towards the reward, but you won't get it unless you complete it. We can debate whether or not these events are too easy (they are), too time-consuming, etc. What you can't debate is the result: if you do everything you can to progress forward in the event you will get the reward. If you miss the reward it is your own fault. As a result, we don't have people bitching on the boards about not getting the event reward and complaining that the system isn't fair. It is fair, and everyone is happy. This "event" is not fair. Player A can be a dipshit who rarely logs in and doesn't know jack about how to set up his harem. He's never bought a koban and doesn't put any time into this game. He can fight Ninja Spy and through dumb luck, drop the girl within 10 fights. Player B is obsessed with this game. He has spent hundreds of dollars in kobans, tweaks his harem all the time, logs in frequently and contributes to the forums and community. He spends 10,000 kobans fighting Ninja Spy over the 4-day event and gets NOTHING. That's the problem.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm not complaining about rare drop rates. I'm complaining about people wasting kobans, in some cases a tremendous amount of kobans, without any progress at all towards the end goal. A mercy rule is needed. No reasonable person would argue that the guy who spent over 18,000 kobans on refills, without any return on that investment at all, shouldn't be complaining.

Yeah, this is really unfortunate. From the posts on day one, it appeared like the drop rate had been increased due to the number of people posting that she was falling within a pretty reasonable number of fights. For most people, it looked like somewhere in the 150-300 fight range, with the obvious outliers (pretty much pulling numbers out of my ass based upon my memory of the intial posts). With 218 fights being the "free" range, this seemed a helluva lot better than what we saw with Levitya. However, we are now seeing quite a few posts from the people who she is not dropping for. Repeated posts from people going well over 1,000 fights (with one player reporting over 1,700 fights). For those number crunches out there, 720 is approximately how many fights you get if you add the "free" fights plus refills with 5,400 kobans (the cost of an epic x10 spin). In my opinion, spending 5,400 kobans on refills for her is reasonable, but double that? That's bullshit. I will echo what I've been saying forever. Give us a set guarantee drop point to protect players from horrible bad luck streaks. Ask the guy who fought her 1,000 times without a drop if he's pissed. The answer is "Yeah, I'm pissed! And I'll probably quit this game! I wasted so many kobans and I am never ever buying kobans again!" But let's say there was a 1,200 fight limit set. If she doesn't drop by the 1,200th fight, she drops guaranteed. Now ask the same guy the same question. The answer is now "Yeah, I'm pissed. I have had such bad luck so far. But I'm so close to getting her now, at least I only have to spend a few more kobans." There is no downside to this suggestion. Players are currently unhappy and less likely to spend kobans. This makes everyone much happier, encourages koban purchases, and doesn't make the girl more easily accessible accept to the extremely unlucky. I look forward to Jessie or Kinkoid's response as to why their luck-based mechanic is better than this logical, easily implemented adjustment. But there won't be a response, because the developers continue to ignore criticism. I pray, once again, that I'm wrong and that we'll see a detailed post below explaining why this RNG model is super fair and awesome. But I'm not holding my breath. And to clarify, Jessie, I'm not making war, I'm asking a question. Also (since you encouraged me to ask), what are the drop rates? And also, how is the Legendary Days FAQ that we were promised days ago coming along? Will it be ready in time for the next Legendary Days event 2 months from now?

to answer a few questions , yes there are multiple accounts and there is a decent size group of us . Yes we do plan to share the statistic we have once this is over and they are completed . Yes we do have background in the gaming industry . Yes several of us would be considered "professional gamers" , myself I am more of a tech guy if you cant tell already . Yes I do understand lottery systems , raffle systems , upgrade tables , flat % values as well as sliding scale , progressive and several other forms of reward systems . I also believe that you have stated once in the past that event do not have a progressive scale and are a flat % , I can say I believe this event is not progressive thus far . at this point its looking like a upgraded scale or lottery , but not a flat % . Yes I am speculating at this point , but I am also speculating off of what we are experiencing . Stat wise at least one account should have found the girl even if 0 kobans were used . with kinkoid deciding to keep everyone in the dark for their own reasons you leave us no other choice but to take the numbers we have and apply it where it seems to fit best , so if your worried that out "speculation" is going to be incorrect then please feel free to set us straight with the real numbers .... Side note , I'm guessing you asking about multiple accounts is so you can try to use a ban of some sort to try and keep us quiet?

We are complaining about the fact than even after wasting 5000 kobans, we still didn't drop the girl. We don't care about the drop rate, if it's easy, medium, hard, rare, ... When you use 5000 kobans and you still don't have reward, you don't enjoy the game anymore. That's all. In a "normal" event, in a "normal" game. Every people who play the event and work on it finish with the reward at the end of the event. But with kinkoid, it's different. It's not a "normal" game apparently. It's a casino. A rare item in a "normal" game, it's an item possessed only by people who have participate at the event. If nobody buy koban with their credit card it's because this virtual money is shit. It's just a waste of time and money. This event proove it. Even if you buy koban, you have no reward. Kinkoid, if you want than people buy your virtual money. Make thing to give them desire of buying it. Actually, when i see kobans, i have the feeling than nobody desire to buy it because it give nothing more to the game.

https://goo.gl/PT9fPh That is the link for the countdown timer for this legendary days event. it was posted on the discord as well so I am just sharing it here and for people that don't know Chthugha's discord name is DrQuatsch he shared it on discord so the credit goes to him. ---edit by mod--- I cannot take credit for something I didn't do. I think it was Harelielle (assistant-mod on the discord channel). She does all Mee6-related stuff.

do not invest in the game, financially AND/OR emotionally, more than you are prepared to lose I hated the first February patch note more than anyone, that hate creeped into my life outside the game. I was too emotionally invested in the game as it was back then. A game that, when boiled down to gravy, is about collecting pixels. Took me a while to remember my success or failure in this game doesn't define me as a person. Also took me a while to realize that the game didn't care about me as much as I was caring about it. It was a very one-sided relationship, and none of us need to invest in that kind of relationship. Game still kicks me in the balls sometimes but I don't sweat it, because I don't care as much about the game anymore. I don't invest as much emotionally in the game, and I find myself enjoying it more, now that I care less. Weird, right? But it works for me. It will work for you, too.

was the opposite for me -- got Levitya on 3rd day with normal combat points no kobans used was going to do the same here until Norou was changed to KH, and since Legendary KH from a revival event wasn't happening until December (December!!), I decided that I would burn some kobans from my stash to get her. Because, you know, DECEMBER!!!!!! For the cost of 1 Epic 10x spin and 2 Epic 1x spins, I got a Legendary 5 star girl of my class with zero chance of it being a different girl than the one I wanted

Kobra , your not the only one , the group I'm working with is taking a sample of 100 accounts and so far 0 have had a success , they are ranging from 600 battles to over 2000 per single account , one of mine has gone through over 17000 kobans . Also keep in mind if people are being secretive about info and you are starting on the correct path they tend to shut up to keep from confirming the info they want kept secret . I may not be able to say with complete fact that it is a lottery style system , but the numbers we have are looking like that is the case . each account seems to get lower tired aff items before higher , the amounts vary small numbers but over this many accounts it starting to give us a bigger picture .

Je te rejoins avec qqes miss de mon harem

Dear devs, I was harbouring some hope that even after your complete failure in the first Legendary event you will still make up for it afterwards. Well, now all hopes are dashed. I thought it can't get any worse. Colour me surprised. The fact you changed the class of the second legendary girl from Charm to Know= How is rather unexpected and quite unfortunate. Not only that but it proves you are liars. And considering your company is based in Bulgaria (and subject to Bulgarian and European law I would like to point out as well) all of your behaviour is borderline fraudulent. Let me explain. First you announced the Legendary days (in a preview spoiler) around the end of April (in the upcoming events for May). Then you stated several times the girl will be charm. Several times (including in your news announcing the events which is yet to be corrected). And just yesterday you stated you are FORCED to change her class. You were forced to do nothing. You CHOSE to make some goody-eyes to your Know-How population after it was pointed out that they are lacking a legendary girl until December. And by doing this you alienated half of your charm population (or more). However, you are entitled to do that. But not without reprecussions. You see, most of the charm population that likes to be prepared was already preparing. Affection items were bought and kobans were restocked. Something quite many people would not have done had they known the girl is KH (using it for simplicity). And you are telling me now that you were FORCED? Enough of this bullshit. All of your behaviour amounts to false advertising and fraudulent behaviour. Because you misled the populace and community and changed everything in the last possible moment. So unless you provide said community with an apology AND a guaranteed way toget that girl (yes, my character is charm, and yes i still want her) I would consider you what you are - liars. All this fiasco should make you listen to your community and take notes. Let me repeat myself - you have to compensate the player base AND provide us with a guaranteed way to get that girl. Anything else is simply as I said - BULLSHIT. You may want to look at your Terms of Use again. Your company is based in Bulgaria (which is still part of the European Union). I believe I am right to consider that any dispute regarding to your services is governed by Bulgarian law (and the appropriate European law if it supercedes it) So I reckon The Bulgarian Customer protection Bureau will be more than happy to hear about your statements. Best regards,

What about mixing all the current aspects of the game to make the legendary girl feel more legendary? Let's say... we keep the legendary girl with a boss and she is earned by mere luck, but, if you complete all daily activities during the event, the drop rate increases; and if you win a certain amount of daily battles on the arena, the drop rate increases again. That way, people who actually log an play the game frequently have a bigger chance to get the girl, and people who play less still have a chance to get lucky. An there is still a chance that frequent players won't naturally get the girl, but with the considerably higher drop rate, now they'll only need a couple of refills and won't end in a scenario of spending 10,000 kobans without a drop.

DROPPED PINK 2B!!! YEA BOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!! Dropped her after ~100 (±20) pulls and only one refill. I even dropped like five affection items. After spending like 2,600 kobans and getting nothing from the last Legendary Days event, this was a great surprise! Even though I don't specialize in KH types (I'm a Charm user), I'm very happy that I dropped this. To everyone that hasn't gotten her, I say keep pulling. I was skeptical of all the people saying that the drop rate seemed better this time, but now I'm a believer (I'm probably biased af though haha). I think I'll keep pulling from Ninja Spy until the event ends just so I can get more affection items. Good event, guys. Sending a virtual high five to ya'll.

Man are you joking alright? I'm know how and I really didn't care if would be charm,Hardcore and Know How,I saved affections Itens,and money the same way,a legendary girl is something very special regardless of her class . And I really don't understand why are you complaining since there is a huge advantage in terms of girls quantity for charm players. Besides,Who exactly are you to speak in name of "most of the charm players"

I have seen this and I know someone is participating in the non aggression pact.

Actually, Bunny is stronger than both Agate and Red Battler, and that's the real reason why hardcore is the best early on. Abraël is the first 5-star to be stronger than Bunny, already being stronger at 4 stars than Bunny. So know-how had only 1 strong girl in Samane before Norou. Now I have been saying that one strong girl is more than enough, but accessibility is just as important. And that's the second reason why Bunny and hardcore are so powerful early on in the game.

Afin de ne pas être tenté de dépenser des kobans sur cet event je viens de claquer mon total sur un x10 au Pachinko. Je visais Skytte/Tresor/Agate/Lupa ou Notka parmi les 21 possibles et j'ai eu... Miss Lupa de quoi bien finir la soirée

We learned this morning that the Harem v2 wil be loaded in the test server either this morning or next Monday at the latest. I think it's only a matter of days before HHv2 appears in the game.

As far as I know, Norou has always been planned as KH, so it's a mistake of the note that announced her as charm, the initial logic having been that the charm Legendary Days had to take place before the KH. So I think it is more of a concern for internal communication, and as usual I regret the lack of transparency from K to admit it and simply explain us what happened.

Uh look man, I get being upset with the devs, but let's pick our fights a little bit better than this? I mean look at what they've done since february, including what many of us consider to be false advertising on drop rates on the first legendary girls event, and THIS is what you are choosing to pick a fight over? I certainly consider many things done as of late including not showing drop rates to be questionable in terms of legality, but this? No, not when they even corrected themselves before the event (even if it was last minute). I think you're just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill so you can get the girl easy. Drop rates aren't looking too bad this time, just try playing for her and save the whistle blowing for later if you see some really bad reports of 1000 fights or so with no girl or legendary gifts.

Je dis pas que tes propositions sont stupides bien au contraire, c'est juste que j'ai du mal a comprendre pourquoi changer ça alors que le plus simple est de mettre au moins une fille sur les boss les plus rentables. J'ai lu tes argumentations et j'apprécie l'effort, donc si je dois choisir obligatoirement une de ces 3 là ça serai plutôt la 2. Mais dans l'absolu j'aimerai ne pas avoir a faire avec une de ces solutions qui pour moi est du bricolage, c'est se compliquer la vie sur le seul prétexte que toutes les filles doivent être accessible même aux débutants, je comprends pas ce concept, pourquoi alors que le débutant c'est loin d'être son soucis car faut déjà qu'il commence par drop les filles de boss a mon avis et tant qu'il a accès a au moins une des deux filles je pense pas qu'il va pleurer pour l'autre sachant qu'il pourra l'avoir en revival. Je voterai la 2 qui est la moins pire pour moi et parce que tu t'es donné du mal pour expliquer tout ça. Si les développeurs y pense a ce que j'ai dit, alors c'est une bonne nouvelle, dans l'ideal pour moi il devrait y avoir 3 fille accessible gratuitement : une parmi les 4 premier bosse, une autre parmi les 4 suivants, et la troisième parmi les boss les plus rentables et vu qu'on sera a bientôt 12 monde, ça l'air d'être prévu, je trouve que ça collerai bien. Il font bien des fille sen plus pour le pachinko épique, ils peuvent aussi en faire une de plus pour les événements quitte à ce que ce soit une fille déjà existante et provenant du pachinko épique, les plus avancés dans la story il pourrai y avoir une des filles pachinko sur un boss en plus de pouvoir l'avoir au Pachinko épique et ça pousserai à avancer dans la story Line certains joueurs qui traînent la patte, voir même donner un intérêt a recharger la barre d’énergie.

That was Harelielle, Nat. She does all the Mee6 stuff on the discord channel. She just took my comment and made this. (I think she's PrincessLynx in the game). There is a mojo thing as well. Your opponent will be within +-1000 mojo of you. I don't know if it takes your current amount, or the unupdated amount in the ToF.

Pilot Ankyo forever.

139 and only one gift drop, no girl so far. Im waiting for the last day before i decide if ill buy refills based on what i see here, but theres other threads reporting players are over 1000 fights and still nothing. So not likely ill spend at this point

A lot of people got her without refills. I got her in 34 battles

I got her on my 86th battle, no refills.

This will make a lot of people mad but I got the girl the first day in less than 10 minutes in only 8 battles but the first legendary girl took 3 days and a lot of Kodans to get her it balances things out I think

No, no it's not. Don't spread false rumours, even if you're trying to make a joke. People pick up on it.

she's an android ( or robotic stuff like that ) . Do you wonder she might be turned off? Double your efforts, she's tottaly worth it.

I just got my second purple item this morning. I have put all my effort to prove to Norou that My Harem is better and to break whatever spell the ninja spy might have put on her. I hope he doesn't damage her programing. I cannot wait to get a peek at her software.

you're just out of luck . Although I've spent a lot of kobans to try making her drop, in the meantime, there was some moments that they didn't drop for 30 - 50 fights , and then they fall one after another. Random is random, but bad luck hurts.

You are just unlucky, the drop rate for the legendary gifts is suprisingly big as i got like 5-8 gifts with 30-50 attempts also i was lucky with my gay harem account and i got the dude (girl) within 15-30 attempts while i am not so lucky with my other two accounts, i am already at 100+ attempts and still nothing.

Ils ont des noms sympas je trouve

There will be another HC legendary and soonish. If you really like HC, perhaps don't be in such a rush to change. Although I suppose 600 kobans to switch back, it isn't a big deal either way.

i love to see this being updated after charm gets their girl aswell.

spent 7000 kobans on last legendary event no girl. i had kobans 5000 saved up and have now spent them all on this event which is roughly 465 fights plus the number from recharge which i havent counted but at about 600 fights havent still no luck. I gave up ever buying kobans again after last event and pretty sure ill be done with this game in its entirety after this event. 2 legendary girls with no guarantee of getting them regardless of how much you spend. the fact that they didnt add in a maximum number of attempts to get her for this 2nd try at this event shows to me how much they are just trying to scam people of their money with these "legendary" girls.

I just put this one together..

It's been day two and I got her already! HA! HA! HA! HAAA! I GOT NOROU! I'm gonna drill her 'til she can't move! SAVAGE LIFE!

On the subject of avatars, did anyone else notice the stealth patch that changed our characters face on the profile page? Our actual portrait face is the same, both on the forums and in-game. But on your profile page and profile picture, the face is slightly different. The original (our avatar pic) is kind of a sweet, innocent kid with an endearing smirk. The new face on the profile page has wide eyes glaring forward, and a long, creepy looking grin. I don't know, it gives off a much too rapey vibe to me. I don't like it.

Team Macha/robot Team Ninja Team soubrette

@SLASHDØG tu es un troll ? Tu prend aussi chère que Dark Lord ? Je te souhaite bon courage xDDDD

J'aime bien les deux filles de Excel saga, Excel la blonde complètement délurée et Hyatt la timide malade qui crache toujours du sang et meurt presque toujours ! Et (pour les plus de trente ans) les filles de Cat's eyes

J'ai remarqué ce matin que au moment où l'erreur HH_I se produit sur le jeu live, le serveur-test est lui aussi planté en freeze. Je suppose donc que c'est un bug sur le serveur général. J'ignore si cette info peut être utile, mais voilà c'est dit.

Nan. Je trouvais juste qu'il s'associait bien avec ma personnalité / fonction de troll.

Yeah, that's what we need. More RNG buggery. Everyone loves the RNG so much. [I'm being sarcastic]. Almost all the complaining on the forum is about the drop rate RNG issues. I can see it now. Arrgh, 9 legendary girls, none of them my class, Hentai Hulk Smash! I kinda like knowing what girl I am aiming for so I can make a decision on if I should bother or not. Blowing all that Koban only to get some girl I can't use and having that potentially happen over and over again while others get 3 for 3 of class girls. Shoot me now.

ouaip, pi râler pour quoi ??... " Oh dieux infames, pourquoi m'avoir fait si malchanceux ??!!! Prenez ma femme, faites moi cocu et donnez-moi la fille, bon sang ! " (désolé, mon manuel de 'obtiens plus de chances de gagner au loto ne contient que cette réponse, avec "braque la Française des Jeux," mais ça s'applique moins ici...)

@Arcana's Fate @JessieChan @Kinkoid This! All of this! This is good public relations. I envy the French discord for having this moderator. Acknowledging the history of poor transparency and offering regret, this is a good thing. None of us are perfect. Trying to hide mistakes and poor decisions hurts the dev's credibility. Arcana's Fate is a person I can believe, because A's F does not speak to the players in a condescending way or tone, and gave the players a reasonable explanation of why Norou was changed to Know How. A's F earned credibility by offering regret for the lack of transparency, and cleans the injury caused by the change to Know How. The injury can heal with time. But if no regret is expressed, the injury will stay infected and never heal. A's F does not have any bad history of hiding the truth from the players, so it does not take much effort from A's F to establish trust and credibility. However, with Jessie and Kinkoid, it will take many more efforts to clean the injuries players have, before the healing process can begin. If they speak to the players like A's F does, it will help improve the relationship faster. Thank you again, Arcana's Fate

what exactly was changed compared to the previous one "Legendary Days Event" ?