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Ah sorry, I wrote it misleadingly, with "increased" I meant "enhanced", i.e. harem++ now loads much faster for me, just like for you.

But Harem++ loading time has increased is a lot faster thanks to the required changes. I mean it was lightning fast before compared to the native harem, but also the background (and manual) data refreshing does now finish in a fraction of a second, instead taking as long as native harem load.

Hmm, so Critical Thinking seems to not function either then. I also have never tested them, AFAIR.

@EpicBacon Looks good. The little difference between your and game data is likely that you did not split and rounded up the individual bonuses, but the sum of them? The game does e.g. for Sake (just guessing around with the relics): AP = 65026 + ceiling(65026*0.1) + ceiling(65026*0.1) + ceiling(65026*0.05) + ceil(65026*0.03) + ceiling(65026*0.03) = ... okay with this combination it is also 1 too low. However, when adding the actual relic bonuses you have like that, you end up at 85.187, right? And good to know that the <>50% ego AP bonus is what is added after all calculations, so I mixed that up earlier.

I guess even that Jun is put on top of the Laby girls stack, Takara is still part of the stack, and again on first shop slot once/in case you got Jun, respectively all other Laby girls.

I cannot guarantee that I am still able to do this correctly now 😴, but tomorrow for sure. But probably it fits better into the other topic? At least I continued my test results at the main Laby topic.

In addition to my Front Defender test here: "143174984": { "id_fighter": 6716841, "id_girl": 143174984, "is_defeated": false, "is_hero_fighter": true, "remaining_ego": 298229, "damage": 59302, "defense": 23238, "chance": 195963, "remaining_mana": 31, "speed": 85479, "total_shields_amount": 0 }, "713468897": { "id_fighter": 6716841, "id_girl": 713468897, "is_defeated": false, "is_hero_fighter": true, "remaining_ego": 294329, "damage": 58764, "defense": 23576, "chance": 195847, "remaining_mana": 30, "speed": 85379, "total_shields_amount": 0 }, "151980856": { "id_fighter": 6716841, "id_girl": 151980856, "is_defeated": false, "is_hero_fighter": true, "remaining_ego": 298475, "damage": 58374, "defense": 23311, "chance": 195763, "remaining_mana": 29, "speed": 85307, "total_shields_amount": 0 }, So that relic alone works as well. I also just got a 2nd Front Defender: But will test this tomorrow, much too late already.

For kobans there are "reason to not spend resources now", hence I also keep a stock for at least 1 M6 and 4 SP at all time. Same for resources used in contests and such: I am hording them by times the whole month only for LC e.g. and at least half a month for CCbC, gems and orbs for a week for CbC. For Laby coins however, there are zero reasons: The Laby L5 is something I want to get in any case, and there is nothing in the shop I would ever buy other than L5 shards. So why would you not buy at least 40 shards of Takara just now?

Hmm, yeah, then we function differently. If I see zero reason to not spend resources now, I spend them now. And for me, the risk that Takara might be unexpectedly replaced, or that I accidentally tab on crap in the shop, were actual reasons to spend them now. A safe invest into something I definitely want to get anyway. I get that, but why hurry with this? The path through Laby and SM shop is a long term path anyway. So if you have even only 1 shard of any revival, why rushing to get this exact revival now into SM shop, instead of at least doing so with Takara as well? The revival won't run away either, and only 1 shard unlocked her already. EDIT: Ah, you bought >40 shards of Takara as well. When fearing to run out of girls in SM shop, and planning to lift more revivals through Laby shop, then what you did makes sense. I was referring to those who did not buy a single or at best 40 shards of Takara. EDIT2: Different topic. I tested Front Defender: "381298668": { "id_fighter": 6716841, "id_girl": 381298668, "is_defeated": false, "is_hero_fighter": true, "remaining_ego": 106120, "damage": 54195, "defense": 33559, "chance": 168740, "remaining_mana": 29, "speed": 85286, "total_shields_amount": 0 }, "620462167": { "id_fighter": 6716841, "id_girl": 620462167, "is_defeated": false, "is_hero_fighter": true, "remaining_ego": 82502.42, "damage": 53950, "defense": 32483, "chance": 168691, "remaining_mana": 28, "speed": 85237, "total_shields_amount": 0 }, 31,073*1.08=33,558.84 30,076*1.08=32,482.08 This this time it worked, for both front line girls. I'll select any defence relic for those I can get, and see whether all of them remain working, and in case how they stack. EDIT: I recognise just now that there isn't any field for mana regeneration. Probably there is some formula for it which takes CH into account, but it never comes into play because the value is never passed to battle calculations of frontend, and falls back to 20 default in this case.

I would have sufficient green eye skill L5 girls to build a strong team, but not sufficient GXP and gems to max them, respectively to do this now outside of a respective contest. Since my fallback team is blue eyes trait, it is now basically worst case scenario. And this after an already awful week, blessings wise, as I could not benefit from this week's blessings either, with the strong +40% doubled, and a lot of double-blessed girls in the game which I do no own 😞. At least green eyes is only 20% and I have some 69 girls in my blue eyes squad. So it should be sufficient for top 4. Definitely M6 with 40% and bad synergy, based on comparisons I did and regularly do. A blessed + shared trait L5 was never better than an unblessed M6 without shared trait. But never a bad idea to check for yourself with battle simulator. Rena's battle simulator: I always perform significantly better than it predicts even when simulating all opponents to be unboosted, so it seems to not be 100% accurate, but should be good enough to compare teams. If you can build a 69 GS3 team, that will be surely best. Filya has green eyes as well: Else, if you can build a green eyes team, that would be likely 2nd best: But no double-blessed girl among them, and vulnerable against counter bonus of above 69 team (blue => red). 5 of the double-blessed girls are gemini, 2 of them have it as skill: But I don't think that would be better than a pure 69 team + Elder Magus Bianca with her shield and green eyes.

20 shards would be sufficient. Never trust KK to produce something which works as expected 😅. Even if it did work as previously expected, what is the reason to not just spend the coins, respectively what is the benefit of saving them, at least saving more than 14.4k to lift any other girl from 20 to 40 into SM shop, if for some reason urgently required? I did also spend them ASAP to not accidentally buying crap when tapping tired through Laby on the mobile phone. I am afraid of all those shops with no confirmation dialogue 🛡️.

I am 99.9% sure this is when Takara shows up at the 2nd spot because you have shards of her already. 100% of all reports I read here have now Jun on 1st permanent slot. So yes, for now, Takara is lost if you did not get any shards of her. I hope some mods can bring (or did already) the wish to KK to switch from LIFO to FIFO, to align with CC, PoPs, league etc. A reason for LIFO would be to give "Labyrinth seasons" some more meaning. With FIFO the term has not really any meaning, as a season change is invisible for most players. But this could be changed with some larger look&feel changes between the seasons, instead of only showing the other girl on the Laby entry page, which is visible only when you did not select your squad already. Also, the new side quest could be added more prominently to the Laby page(s). I saw an exclamation mark at the adventure button, but did not think that this might be related to a new side quest. I just thought about checking this right now while writing, and indeed: We have a new Laby side quest!

I never understood the argument to keep Laby coins to lift potential future <40 shards girls into SM shop, when you can lift an L5 into SM shop right now, or get it to 100 shards right now. I understood the ME shop => Laby shop => SM shop path for those, who have a very small number of left L5 girls anyway, to get all girls unlocked in a way. But why do some of you even save Laby coins instead of just buying Takara, at least 40 shards of her? If you have shards of a revival, neither won't run away, but Takara was cheaper and available just now. Also the whole idea was built on top of the assumptions that the rotation works like CC/PoP, which I only ever read from 2nd hand, never saw an official statement about this. the new difficulties come moreless soon, and will add more Laby coins while we won't get more than 1 new Laby girl every 60 days for the same price. We cannot know anything about this yet. Okay, Rosso said something about Laby extension is worked on, but also someone wrote that he wrote that all bugs get fixed first, and given the mass of them, this can take a while, especially when also all bugs introduced while aiming to fix others want to be fixed first 😅. And the new difficulties will be bugged as well anyway, so basically we cannot trust/build on anything regarding this. Lucky that I never fully trusted in any of those and just bought Takara right away and have her since a week. And I'll to the same with Jun. I'll start buy shards for other girls once I have all Laby girls + sufficient coins left.

When someone insists to get the MD girl on first day without SP, to win a DC with 1M%? 😂

The power stat is misleading. It rates defence and attack way too low, compared to ego. This is likely because AP-defence deals 2 damage per point, instead of one, and this was forgotten when creating the formula for this power value. And for DDs, of course neither ego nor defence makes sense to take into account, as it does not come into play, aside of in 1 or 2 unlucky fights. I always sort by defence for the tanks, and by damage for the DDs, with HH++ Laby extension. What a relieve that at least Takara still has the lower costs when appearing at the 2nd slot. Better would be a CC/PoP like system, but the way it is, it is practically the same, just that you need to have a look into the shop more often when finally aiming to buy the Laby girls.

Ah lol, I totally forgot about the event cards 😅. At least the big card will surely still be required. I'll buy them next MD, since this HA will last until March 5th.

You did not finish Takara before? EDIT: Ah clearly not, based on the amount of your coins. At least, if you got 20 shards, she can appear as second girl, just more expensive.

For completeness, the wiki entry of her: https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Harem-Heroes/HH:Dominatrix-Ananke Probably they did not want to make her a dom, because her Galaxy Ananke variant is dom already. And one could have complained about her original variant already, as her description describes her as "Domination Demon", while her original variant is voyeur. She btw makes the red eye trait interesting for GS3: Now with 2 M6 and 5 L5.

Haha, stumbled over the same immediately 😂. Well, we do already know that things are not really reviewed at KK. And to be fair: There is no reason why a dominatrix cannot be an eccentric person as well.

In HA there is a high chance to get all of them for free, isn't it? At least I did last HA, which was still without Laby (was it?). Of course this may not be true if you still need to invest sapphires into revivals, but I guess you got all 4 in the galactic ME as well.

Not believing a single word of this (from Rosso). Also now saying "in parallel", which I interpret as priority has the extension, bug reports are ignored anyway, a week on test server would never be enough even if, and we will finally have a rushed release with more bugs than present now 🙂. Now it has value to have a deeper look and verifying the bugs we are aware of now, as it starts to matter when aiming for higher difficulties.

Depends. LR and HA I get all 4 girls without those few extra Xtals and without spending extra kobans for Xtals. And in SE those few extra Xtals will still not get me even close to the 4th girl, while the 3rd is free in any case now. So no, I never saw and still do not see any argument (for my particular case/play style) to skip coin bags for extra kisses/villains/PXP, and I see this underlined by the math done here (thanks for this guys).

No need, I believe you, also seeing your attack form the back data/screenshots. As said, I guess then there are other factors affecting this, or the last update did ship a fix (probably the most unlikely theory). I'll also check back here when I am in mood. Btw, your result was indicating additive stacking. When I checked it the very first time, I found something like: ( base value + girl bonus + color bonus + global bonus + 50% ego bonus ) * line bonus e.g. ( AP + 0.03*AP + 0.075*AP + 0.03*AP + 0.06*AP ) * 1.06 But now that I am writing it, I probably mix up the line bonus with the above/below 50% bonus, and I am too lazy to search my post about this 😅.

Ah okay, then raising the daily active players for all clones is a good theory for the daily sex friends rewards. Ah, I never recognised that one. It contradicts the theory a little, but probably clever to rule out any complains. With hotkeys or (Opera) mouse gestures, the new window is closed in a blink of a second, faster than the additional route to the sex friends page. But for those who have issues with two open tabs, a nice alternative.

Hmm, then we have conflicting results. Probably it sometimes does work, sometimes not, based on other circumstances? When I checked the AJAX response regarding this last time, it did definitely not apply. This would explain why all of us had results where it did work and some where it did not work. And for the front defender and harmony in the middle it would then most likely be the same.