Koban Events

[Taylor The Great]

Poll for Koban events

[trunks2585]

1 no vote so far.  I see the devs are voting.

[SissyMaker]

eyah, we need free 10000 kobans per day, all girls for free too, and 1 new girl every hour. What? Devs need to eat? We dont care!!!

Edited August 28, 2019 by Izildur

[trunks2585]

Now I'm not saying that.  If anything I just wish how the daily events were done was different.  reduce the time needed to run the dailys, or allow multiple daily quests to go at once (like you can run 15 quest a 10 quest and a 5-1 quest all at the same time.)  It gets really bad when you're waiting over 6 hours to finish the koban quest. 

In my case reset is 10PM, so I'm going to sleep before the koban quest is done, and often times waking up in the morning to get my koban reward, but then I gotta get ready for work and if it's a long shift, I don't have time to run the rest of the dailies.  And I'm not logging into the game at work.  I'm not getting in trouble for what i browse at work.  We actually had someone get fired for looking up porn on breaks.

I dunno how the situation is for all of you and if you have trouble getting all the missions done or if you forget about them because the koban mission takes so long.

Besides the time to do dailies, I'd suggest a daily log in bonus on top of the daily missions.  Again, most gacha games do this.  Log in each day and you get a reward.  Not saying every log in has to pay kobans, maybe after your 7th consecutive log in you get 250 kobans or something, and every other day is a different bonus, like legendary affection items or books, maybe boosters or epic to legendary equipment (that even if you don't use you can sell for good money).  Now if there was a koban bonus every day that would be wonderful, but I fully acknowledge the large part of gacha games don't pay premium currency every day, more like every 5-7 days.

[MaybeRegret]

51 minutes ago, trunks2585 said:

Log in each day and you get a reward

Log in each week (not even each day) and you get 72 kobans+money and stuff in ToF.
Log in each day, press button for daily mission and you get almost every day free kobans.

 

[Chthugha]

2 hours ago, trunks2585 said:

Now I'm not saying that.  If anything I just wish how the daily events were done was different.  reduce the time needed to run the dailys, or allow multiple daily quests to go at once (like you can run 15 quest a 10 quest and a 5-1 quest all at the same time.)  It gets really bad when you're waiting over 6 hours to finish the koban quest. 

In my case reset is 10PM, so I'm going to sleep before the koban quest is done, and often times waking up in the morning to get my koban reward, but then I gotta get ready for work and if it's a long shift, I don't have time to run the rest of the dailies.  And I'm not logging into the game at work.  I'm not getting in trouble for what i browse at work.  We actually had someone get fired for looking up porn on breaks.

I dunno how the situation is for all of you and if you have trouble getting all the missions done or if you forget about them because the koban mission takes so long.

Besides the time to do dailies, I'd suggest a daily log in bonus on top of the daily missions.  Again, most gacha games do this.  Log in each day and you get a reward.  Not saying every log in has to pay kobans, maybe after your 7th consecutive log in you get 250 kobans or something, and every other day is a different bonus, like legendary affection items or books, maybe boosters or epic to legendary equipment (that even if you don't use you can sell for good money).  Now if there was a koban bonus every day that would be wonderful, but I fully acknowledge the large part of gacha games don't pay premium currency every day, more like every 5-7 days.

Sounds like you should do some missions before going to bed and then put the koban mission on while you sleep 🤔

[_shal_]

3 hours ago, MaybeRegret said:

Log in each week (not even each day) and you get 72 kobans+money and stuff in ToF.

^ This.

Also, the free Great Pachinko spin is a daily login reward.

Anyway, since no "this is a stupid poll" option was included, I voted 'no'.

[Taylor The Great]

1 hour ago, _shal_ said:

^ This.

Also, the free Great Pachinko spin is a daily login reward.

Anyway, since no "this is a stupid poll" option was included, I voted 'no'.

Why are you trying to be mean? I just wanted to see if anybody agreed with what i had to say! GEEZ!

[MCP]

Why are YOU acting so entitled?

[_shal_]

2 hours ago, Taylor The Great said:

Why are you trying to be mean? I just wanted to see if anybody agreed with what i had to say! GEEZ!

You wanted people to agree with "Poll for Koban events"?

[trunks2585]

In regards to the tower of fame rewards, that's based on your standing.  Yes you get at least 72 kobans, and other stuff, but what you get varies based on how active you are.  And again, no different from many other gacha's that reward you based on how heavy you are doing events or whatever else there is.  The idea behind a daily reward is it's the same for everyone.

While chuthuga does give a work around for my situation of when to run daily missions, it's still ridiculous how much total time is needed to finish said daily missions.  Even just for the single Koban reward.

Also mathematically explain this to me.  When there's no revival or 12 day events, it takes what, maybe an hour and a half at most to run everything for 150 kobans if you don't forget about the daily missions? (I'm estimating)  So why does it take anywhere from like 2 and a half to 6 or 7 hours to make even less off one mission?  I''m guessing because it also ties into a girl/equipment reward, but it's still excessive.

 

Not that any of this matters because the devs will never touch these issues, and if they did, they'd just put on some kinda catch.  They'll just say it would devalue the monthy card or something, or they'll make more 'perks' for the cards and leave free players with nothing.

 

Edit: As a side note, anyone that honestly would say no to getting more Koban events that don't have a catch are lying out their ass, or being payed off by the devs.  No one would turn down free kobans.

Edited August 29, 2019 by trunks2585

[MaybeRegret]

24 minutes ago, trunks2585 said:

it's still excessive.

But you don't need to be online, you just need to press one button. 

[trunks2585]

Are we talking just for the koban daily mission reward, or the all clear reward?

[MaybeRegret]

For all other missions you need just "an hour and a half". 

[trunks2585]

I'm done with this.  We have different points of view.  You and many others don't see it as a big deal.  I see it as sitting around and waiting to click buttons.  I'd prefer 'one and done' or as close to that as possible.  I don't know if anyone else shares my view on the missions, but that's how I feel.

[John 1039]

8 minutes ago, trunks2585 said:

I don't know if anyone else shares my view on the missions, but that's how I feel.

I also believe the one and a half hours required of daily missions is a bit excessive. Sure, all that time doesn't need to be spent on the game, but waiting around to click the next button still spends some time. Not everyone gets to fit this type of playtime in their routine. The rest of the game, an active player can be fine with just spending 10 minutes, every 8 hours but the missions require much more time from the player.

Sure, this isn't much of a problem for a lot of the players, sure not having this issue would be better, and sure it isn't expected for things to change on this front either.

[MaybeRegret]

Honestly, I prefer this too, but you either put money or time in game. And this game don't require too much time.
Upgrading your stats after patch much more irritating.  

54 minutes ago, trunks2585 said:

No one would turn down free kobans.

That's true too, but nobody gonna hear request like "more free kobans". Especially when devs already are increasing the ways to get them.  

[Peterminator]

hace 16 horas, Taylor The Great dijo:

Why are you trying to be mean? I just wanted to see if anybody agreed with what i had to say! GEEZ!

Don't worry, Taylor, @_shal_ is a hired thug by the devs, he/she is always beating who says something against the system, just check his/her posts. Or maybe he/she just do it because only here has some kind of power, anyway, a poor lapdog.

By the way, I'm agree with you, but I think like @MaybeRegret, the devs want to you buy kobans, is their way to get money. Is more easy if you get a better use of them, to save enough for  when you need them.

[DvDivXXX]

1 hour ago, trunks2585 said:

Also mathematically explain this to me.  When there's no revival or 12 day events, it takes what, maybe an hour and a half at most to run everything for 150 kobans if you don't forget about the daily missions? (I'm estimating)  So why does it take anywhere from like 2 and a half to 6 or 7 hours to make even less off one mission?  I''m guessing because it also ties into a girl/equipment reward, but it's still excessive.

1. You still get 150 kobans for finishing all the daily missions on those days, on top of the extra 48 kobans (that's 48, right?) from the special mission.
2. If you clear all the regular missions first, then activate the koban mission, then it doesn't actually take you any extra time.
3. The only thing to worry about is not to click on the long mission by accident before finishing all the others (happened to me once, now I'm extra careful).

[Chthugha]

3 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

1. You still get 150 kobans for finishing all the daily missions on those days, on top of the extra 48 kobans (that's 48, right?) from the special mission.

The koban reward depends on the mission number. Day 2 and 3 have a 48 koban reward. The other days (1, 4 to 12) have different koban rewards. The higher the amount of kobans, the longer the mission.

[DvDivXXX]

22 minutes ago, Chthugha said:

The koban reward depends on the mission number. Day 2 and 3 have a 48 koban reward. The other days (1, 4 to 12) have different koban rewards. The higher the amount of kobans, the longer the mission.

Thanks. I probably remembered 48 because it comes up a little more often than other amounts (I didn't get to do many events yet). In any case, that's a substantial koban boost on top of the usual 150 for daily missions (only at the expense of getting them later in the day, or maybe on the next day depending on time zone). I really like these.

[trunks2585]

7 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

1. You still get 150 kobans for finishing all the daily missions on those days, on top of the extra 48 kobans (that's 48, right?) from the special mission.
2. If you clear all the regular missions first, then activate the koban mission, then it doesn't actually take you any extra time.
3. The only thing to worry about is not to click on the long mission by accident before finishing all the others (happened to me once, now I'm extra careful).

Not quite sure I understand what you are saying when you say it doesn't take any extra time?  Are you saying you get a reward for doing the normal missions even if you don't do the Koban mission?  Or are you just suggesting like Chthugha, and do the normal daily missions first before hitting the long koban mission, go to bed, and click done when I wake up?

 

Either way, another idea for daily missions would be to change how they work.  Like instead of clicking start, wait 15 minutes and hit done, what if daily missions were tied to doing other stuff in the game?  Like 'do 10 boss fights', 'collect money from X number of girls', 'fight in the area 3 times' etc.  Hell the area already has a reward system like that in place, but you have to win your fights.  The point of my examples are the missions would be much faster to run, and you could even leave the koban missions as a timer mission to make them seperate and special, while changing how daily missions work would be more engaging to playing the rest of the game.

 

Anyways this topic has severely derailed.  In the spirit of the main theme of the topic, besides the daily log in idea, I'm not sure what could be added for ways to earn kobans.  As much flack as I give them game for needing to be fine tuned in many spots, I think it's got most the basics of a gacha game in place now.

[DvDivXXX]

6 hours ago, trunks2585 said:

Not quite sure I understand what you are saying when you say it doesn't take any extra time?  Are you saying you get a reward for doing the normal missions even if you don't do the Koban mission?  Or are you just suggesting like Chthugha, and do the normal daily missions first before hitting the long koban mission, go to bed, and click done when I wake up?

The second one. It doesn't take you any extra time in that you don't need to spend more time on the game to clear all the regular dailies and to unlock the 150 koban reward; you just get the kobans later in the day (or on the next day).

As for your idea to change daily missions into tasks, I'm not a fan. I play other games that have systems like that in place, and it generally feels more like a chore than just clicking the thing and moving on to your usual game activities. What if I have a task to do 10 boss fights but I already used up my fights before noticing it? Unless it's taken into account automatically whether you check the list or not, it would make dailies more tedious imho.

Otherwise I agree with you: there's a pretty decent free koban distribution as is, and adding more koban rewards for events might even have a negative impact long term (either because it replaces other things or just as it changes the game's economy). Maybe a few extra missions here or there on off days (in between events), but not much more.

[_shal_]

17 hours ago, Peterminator said:

Don't worry, Taylor, @_shal_ is a hired thug by the devs, he/she is always beating who says something against the system, just check his/her posts. Or maybe he/she just do it because only here has some kind of power, anyway, a poor lapdog.

 Clueless players allying to defend each other's cluelessness never gets old.

Have you admitted yet that your "too many tickets" thread was borne of complete insanity?

Edited August 30, 2019 by _shal_

[Peterminator]

hace 4 horas, _shal_ dijo:

 Clueless players allying to defend each other's cluelessness never gets old.

Have you admitted yet that your "too many tickets" thread was borne of complete insanity?

No, I'm still thinking that is an error that the shards share space with the tickets, but since we only get a legendary equipment, I think we need more of them. But I think the same about you, lapdog of the devs, your posts say that, always attacking to who dares to defy the system or thinks different from the others, because of that your opinion have very poor legitimacy, so, say whatever you want.