Dramut Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 The rewards have somehow decreased if you look at the rewards for the season you can see that koban's output has become very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eexa Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) il y a 33 minutes, Dramut a dit : The rewards have somehow decreased if you look at the rewards for the season you can see that koban's output has become very poor. Kinkoid had to catchup with the bug of the pass from last month. So they played it like great Lords on the patch note, saying "enjoy, it is offered"... and the next season they decreased Season koban rewards for everyone to compensate 🤣 Could have been smart if not so obvious... I guess because we play a porn game, we are supposed to be a bit stupid, or conspirators 🤔 Due to a bug in recent reward changes, for a week, players with a monthly card subscription have received twice the amount of daily Kobans The bug is in favor of the users! Enjoy spending them in the Haremverse!* * anyway we will catchup next season by decreasing everybody's rewards in kobans Edited July 2, 2021 by Eexa 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drackomut Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 17 hours ago, Eexa said: Aufgrund eines Fehlers bei den jüngsten Belohnungsänderungen erhalten Spieler mit einem monatlichen Kartenabonnement eine Woche lang die doppelte Menge an täglichen Kobans Der Fehler kommt zu Gunsten der Benutzer! Viel Spaß damit, sie im Haremverse zu verbringen! * * Wie auch immer, wir werden in der nächsten Saison aufholen, indem wir die Belohnungen aller in Kobans verringern that's a bit nasty towards the players who haven't bought a monthly pass! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer_X Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Fantastic. I suppose that this way monthly card owners will in the end be with more or less the same amount of kobans (after Kinkoid had proudly heralded the server error as an act of generosity), while free players get even less than usual. That was not a gift Kinkoid did to monthly card owners, that was a Robin Hood subversion. I don't know about you guys, but as far as I'm concerned, should I ever play a shot like this to someone, after that I wouldn't be able to look in the mirror for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eexa Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Il y a 18 heures, Observer_X a dit : Fantastic. I suppose that this way monthly card owners will in the end be with more or less the same amount of kobans (after Kinkoid had proudly heralded the server error as an act of generosity), while free players get even less than usual. That was not a gift Kinkoid did to monthly card owners, that was a Robin Hood subversion. I don't know about you guys, but as far as I'm concerned, should I ever play a shot like this to someone, after that I wouldn't be able to look in the mirror for a long time. Don't worry I am sure Kinkoid will have no issue at all finding their sleep after it. And because they do not read here, they won't feel concerned at all 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamanga Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 It's a strange decision by Kinkoid... I don't get why you would annoy existing customers - both paying (which I am) and FTP? I am guessing they noticed a drop in koban purchases over the month and this was the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Kenrae Posted July 4, 2021 Moderator Share Posted July 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, jamanga said: I am guessing they noticed a drop in koban purchases over the month and this was the solution. Sure, with all the people cancelling their purchases due to the mythic items implementation. But this won't change anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eexa Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 il y a 9 minutes, jamanga a dit : It's a strange decision by Kinkoid... I don't get why you would annoy existing customers - both paying (which I am) and FTP? I am guessing they noticed a drop in koban purchases over the month and this was the solution. Your reasoning is even stranger because they also decreased the rewards of the (paying) season pass. Why would we buy more of a less attractive pass? Unless they expect us to fall back on bundles? In which case they are even more disconnected from reality than I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamanga Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Eexa said: Your reasoning is even stranger because they also decreased the rewards of the (paying) season pass. Why would we buy more of a less attractive pass? Unless they expect us to fall back on bundles? In which case they are even more disconnected from reality than I thought... Um not sure what you mean - we are in agreement - both of our reasoning, to me, is sound. My point was why set an expectation, then lessen it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eexa Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) il y a 14 minutes, jamanga a dit : Um not sure what you mean - we are in agreement - both of our reasoning, to me, is sound. My point was why set an expectation, then lessen it. Yes, I was just pointing the part "this was the solution". I guess you meant it ironically because in the fact, they are likely to lose on all tables, i.e. the drop in kobans purchase will be even steeper 😜 I even guess Kinkoid will be genuinely surprised 🤣 Edited July 4, 2021 by Eexa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnimundo2 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 They lost my monthly card due to CC and mythic items, they have now completely lost my goodwill so seasons is for the chop next month 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyShorts Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I dropped my plat card this month and reverted to free play after a year of supporting them. The tin-eared mythic implementation removed a major incentive to have a plat card. I hadn't bought a season pass. Caught wind of this little stunt on another thread and I'm glad that I didn't buy in. I've bought the passes since the Seasons rollout; grudgingly at first, but I've come to consider it a good value. Until now. This cynical stunt just cost them ANOTHER subscription, not just for this month, but permanently. After a month with reduced rewards from not buying the pass, I'll be accustomed to those reduced rewards, just as I'm becoming accustomed again to manual cash collections, which is itself a cynical stunt that attempts to extract cash from players in return for getting a deliberately placed annoying feature out of the way. Has anyone noticed that not all the Patreon support classes even fit onto their "thank you" page, to say nothing about all the supporters? They don't seem very intent on actually thanking their supporters. Last I checked, a scroll bar is fairly easy to implement, but it's just not important enough to fix. Soon, if they keep going as they are, all of their supporters will fit easily. 🙂 I'd love to start a pool on what they're going to "fix" next. Go ahead, KK, wow us! You've been doing GREAT at that: "Wow, WTF were they THINKING?!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelinor Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 9:05 AM, Observer_X said: should I ever play a shot like this to someone, after that I wouldn't be able to look in the mirror for a long time. There's a reason the Facebook video Q&A video on the story doesn't show any mirrors in their office area.🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyShorts Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Pelinor said: There's a reason the Facebook video Q&A video on the story doesn't show any mirrors in their office area.🤣 Ehh... I'm not sure. Someone on another thread brought up Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Mirrors would only confuse. "Who IS that guy, and why is he staring at me?" 🙂 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepidocter Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 "And hey, you... I'm speaking to you... the guy that have a card BUT didn't login that week... you'll get punished for a gift you didn't received." =_= 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyShorts Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 3 hours ago, lepidocter said: "And hey, you... I'm speaking to you... the guy that have a card BUT didn't login that week... you'll get punished for a gift you didn't received." Indeed. 🙂 People who buy the pass but no card got hit the same way. Silver card holders are being docked in excess of what the developers' programming error gave them as a windfall. It's hard not to see this as petty and parsimonious. With so much goodwill evaporating lately over the mythic market shit show and the CC horror, it would behoove them to send out a survey. Shouldn't be difficult to work out who WAS a premium player, no longer is, but is still playing. If they were to ask questions that they may not really want the answers to, and ponder the responses, this is all recoverable. But that window is closing rapidly. At this point, I think the rules of the gift code posting thread should be relaxed. If the company is providing koban incentives to draw in new players, we have earned those same koban incentives just to keep putting up with this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeMTO Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, SoggyShorts said: Indeed. 🙂 People who buy the pass but no card got hit the same way. Silver card holders are being docked in excess of what the developers' programming error gave them as a windfall. It's hard not to see this as petty and parsimonious. I was just letting people vent, but I think it's gone on long enough that I actually have to step in and clarify that the bug and the reduction of rewards aren't necessarily related things. I'm a bit concerned that some of the people here seem to genuinely think the joking correlation that someone drew was real, when I'm like 95% positive the reduction was planned by a dev who had no idea the bug occurred. 10 minutes ago, SoggyShorts said: At this point, I think the rules of the gift code posting thread should be relaxed. The promo codes from other reviewers ect were always allowed to be posted. Initially we (ie me) asked people to not post the Kinkoid social media ones directly and to just link to the posts as more views on those posts made them more likely to keep happening (so that everyone gets more stuff), and that got removed in April. If there's some other rule you're referring to, can you please clarify, as it's fine to post literally any code in there and has been for months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyShorts Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Fair points both, George. I'll put a lid on it. However, in our defense, the conflation of those two events is pretty easy to make given the timing. It's plausible, though of course we have no way of knowing whether it's factual. But as you say, someone on the 4th floor of Kinkoid Corporate Headquarters didn't know about something that was in the purview of someone who works on the 8th floor of same and it went right by the program leads during the weekly stand-up meeting. Mistakes happen, and even if the optics are poor, it's best to move past them without giving them any more oxygen. End poke. I reviewed the gift code posting thread and yep, DvDivXXX pretty much covered that repeatedly, in bold. Senior moment? <shrug> Just because they haven't been posted lately doesn't mean that they're not permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eexa Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Il y a 2 heures, GeorgeMTO a dit : I was just letting people vent, but I think it's gone on long enough that I actually have to step in and clarify that the bug and the reduction of rewards aren't necessarily related things. I'm a bit concerned that some of the people here seem to genuinely think the joking correlation that someone drew was real, when I'm like 95% positive the reduction was planned by a dev who had no idea the bug occurred. It would be nice to hear from this famous dev then what he had in mind, not to genuinely speculate. On the fun side, I read another interesting theory that this move was driven by the Kinkoid birthday: they had to treat themselves with a nice gift! 🤣🤭 Edited July 5, 2021 by Eexa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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