Anniversary Event Discussion

[raggy]

well, this event has been a complete bust!! got unionist elizabeth on day one and thought 'hey, this might actually work out ok'. how wrong could i be? since then i got nothing! i come on here and see people winning 6,7,8 girls or more and i get one?? frustrated is an understatement, especially having missed out on the legendary twins because the wrong end date was advertised! all this coupled with the near constant disconnects and hh-1 errors has made me seriously contemplate deleting this game from my bookmarks.

[Moe Overload]

8 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said:

Haw, for a newbie that's really good going!  Congrats.  That would have built your harem no end.  Hey, I hope those earlier girls don't feel jealous!  15k worth of kobans is not too much of an expensive for that haul.

I'm sad for those who spent even more and had no luck at all.  My best account was Peregrine Took where I recruited four Anniversary girls, plus one boss girl.

Thanks. 33 to 53 girls is in fact quite a big jump, plus all the money I got from Sylvanius was great. In fact, with the exception of one girl from Edwarda, I'm actually caught up on boss girls. It's a pain to get a girl from Edwarda.

[Arya]

Hold on... the Wiki says that the Anniversary event goes up until Monday 30... but now that midnight has come and gone, the event is gone? How come?

Edited July 30, 2018 by Arkron

[Herby]

6 minutes ago, Arkron said:

Hold on... the Wiki says that the Anniversary event goes up until Monday 30... but now that midnight has come and gone, the event is gone? How come?

The official announcement in the game says 'From the 25th (5 AM GMT +2) to the 30th (5 AM GMT +2)" - meaning that it is the 30th at 5 AM GMT as of about 39 minutes ago....

Edited July 30, 2018 by Herby

[GeorgeMTO]

2 minutes ago, Arkron said:

Hold on... the Wiki says that the Anniversary event goes up until Monday 30... but now that midnight has come and gone, the event is gone? How come?

I would trust in-game announcements over a wiki which can be edited by anyone. The announcements said it will end on the 30th at 5am GMT+2 (which it did). Sorry that you seem to have gotten misinformed.

[_shal_]

Just now, GeorgeMTO said:

I would trust in-game announcements over a wiki which can be edited by anyone. The announcements said it will end on the 30th at 5am GMT+2 (which it did). Sorry that you seem to have gotten misinformed.

The Wiki actually does give the exact time on the front page, and while the event page only reads July 30th, there's a countdown link to timeanddate.com next to it that, well, counted down to the exact finish, too.

[Zorba the Geek]

9 minutes ago, Moe Overload said:

Thanks. 33 to 53 girls is in fact quite a big jump, plus all the money I got from Sylvanius was great. In fact, with the exception of one girl from Edwarda, I'm actually caught up on boss girls. It's a pain to get a girl from Edwarda.

My enduring nemesis has been Dark Lord.  For the purposes of this discussion I refer to all six of my accounts.

Dark Lord's girls had been recruited AFTER I got all of Bremen's girls and the others preceeding.  This was only after endless efforts to get captured event girls from him (usually successful in the end).  That's why I agree with you re. the great payouts (in my case Roko Sensei who pays out 29.5k when maxed out).  Re. Edwarda, in all six accounts the girl who resisted recruitment the most was Bonny.  She really hates men! Lol...

[TeeJay]

This event was great! Super!

I fought and fought, refilled and koban spent. And as I fought on, all looked dark and dismal as day after day not a girl dropped.

Then, at the very last minute I fought and... oh, yeah, not a single girl drop.

Wooo, celebration of failure!

 

[shepwgu]

For the Anniversary event I spent ~50K of my saved HH kobans (most of my stash). 

30x (16.2K kobans) Epic Pachinko x1 (tried my luck, so see if I could beat the odds and did not)
Received some good legendary gear, Sailor Celsius and Kyoto
2x (10.8K) Epic Pachinko x10
Received some meh gear, Gossy and Cop Nika
The remaining 23K was spent on fight refills. No 10x spins -- it felt like these would've just cost me chances as I'd have fewer kobans for the refills. 
Received: 
Windia, Music Sylvia, Treasure, Bunny's Mother, Deitra, Lady Meta, Union Elizabeth, Noella, Neanderthal Gork, Victoria, Juin Lelierre

So 50K spent to get 15 girls, or about 3300 kobans/girl. Better than straight-up 10x spins, so I'm super happy!

If I hadn't gambled a little with single spins, it would've been 16.

[Zorba the Geek]

1 hour ago, raggy said:

well, this event has been a complete bust!! got unionist elizabeth on day one and thought 'hey, this might actually work out ok'. how wrong could i be? since then i got nothing! i come on here and see people winning 6,7,8 girls or more and i get one?? frustrated is an understatement, especially having missed out on the legendary twins because the wrong end date was advertised! all this coupled with the near constant disconnects and hh-1 errors has made me seriously contemplate deleting this game from my bookmarks.

You're not wrong on the server issues!  My God!!  It's because of being held up by the game hanging and timing out I managed to run out of time to try for the girls for the last time.  I had 14 chances left in each of the six accounts.

In my Bryan account, I managed to win Victoria from Dark Lord in the very last battle!  With only 21 minutes left to play 14x6 battles I stuck to Dark Lord because he finishes quickly.  Then the damn server issues intervened to stuff up this idea.

I did better in Epic Pachinko with 23 spins for all six accounts.  I managed to recruit Edna in a hardcore account and the original Viola in a know-how account so things worked out rather well.  Victoria was a good score in the account where I my team needed better performing girls and she's the right class.

[SpinelesS]

Didn't get a single girl.

Was really hoping to get Bunny's mother (I like the whole bunny family) and maybe a girl or two with better know how than my current girls...

I guess I was hoping for too much, but I at least expected to get 1 stinking girl.

[Gambit126]

2 hours ago, Daniele said:

Seriously, i don't understand why some people complain when they actually were lucky

However, here's my results: as i already said i got 0 girls with my ~250 free tries, so i started to use my saved kobans. I spent 34773 kobans for 151 refills (counting the free tries, ~3260 fights) and i got all 12 event girls (already had the other 9) + 5 normal boss girls. Since i spent kobans only for the pachinko exclusive girls (11) i can say that each girl costed me 3161 kobans, always better than 5400.

Refills    Girl

19 Stephanie (normal boss girl)
22 Deitra
37 Juin Lelierre
43 Victoria
47 Music Sylvia
54 Windia
70 Cunegonde (normal boss girl)
75 Bunny's Mom
81 Festival Solveig
98 Marina (normal boss girl)
112 Queen Titania (normal boss girl)
130 Lady meta
134 Unionist Elizabeth
138 Noella
142 Leeditt (normal boss girl) and Gork
151 Treasure

Almost managed to evade gork Nah, just kidding, i want all girls (even if they are ugly like gork )

If you're interested, i've done the first 50 refills with perform x1, then from 51st to 100th with perform x10, then 101st to 120th perform x1 and from 121st to 151st again with perform x10.

One last curious thing: both Bremen and Silvanus dropped the girls ONLY after reached their max level. Silvanus reached his max level just a couple of fights before refill 130, and then he started to drop a lot. Almost the same for Bremen. Just a coincidence?

I didn't complain because I was lucky.  I complained because I was very very unlucky because I got no girls from the event whatsoever.  And now you tell me it was probably because Silvanus was not at his max level?  That is kinda like rubbing salt into a wound AND it totally sucks.  

[Gambit126]

2 hours ago, Arvelak said:

In the end RNG decided I didn't get to celebrate the anniversary event, and I just had 11 girls taunting me the entire time with nothing to show for it. I wouldn't have minded it as much if they gave us stuff like last year (I'm pretty sure there was a legendary dragon set, also an amount of kobans and money based on the time you were around?)

Same here, except it was all 21 girls laughing at me all the time i was battling with silvanus.

[Zorba the Geek]

11 minutes ago, Gambit126 said:

I didn't complain because I was lucky.  I complained because I was very very unlucky because I got no girls from the event whatsoever.  And now you tell me it was probably because Silvanus was not at his max level?  That is kinda like rubbing salt into a wound AND it totally sucks.  

I agree.  Not only was his comment uncalled for but he makes no sense whatsoever.

[Zorba the Geek]

I checked out Viola who turned up trumps for me in my Adrian'smole account when I had a go at single spins in EP.  It seems she's a regular Pachincko girl and not part of the Anniversary collection.  Or was she?  When was she added?  Was Winter Viola part of the Anniversary bunch?  It confused me a bit until I learned there are three versions of Viola.

Never mind, she has the best stats of the three and may become a useful addition to my team.

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I just this minute checked out the Wiki and, yes, she is a new addition to EP, along with Sugu.  Now this latter girl is surely beyond merely cute - created in the classic Manga style.  I'd sure love to get her.  Those so-called appendages are more like nematodes (roundworms)!  So if that's what the Akachinpo had created, they are weird beyond weird!

So it seems this version of Viola was not part of the Anniversary collection and so I failed to get any of them in EP.  I'm not complaining, mind you.  She's the best version of Vola in terms of her stats.

Edited July 30, 2018 by Zorba the Geek
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[GeorgeMTO]

23 minutes ago, Gambit126 said:

I didn't complain because I was lucky.  I complained because I was very very unlucky because I got no girls from the event whatsoever.  And now you tell me it was probably because Silvanus was not at his max level?  That is kinda like rubbing salt into a wound AND it totally sucks.  

That's not the case. Bosses drop rates are completely unaffected by their levels. It was just a coincidence in their case. Plenty of other people got drops from unmaxed bosses.

5 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said:

I checked out Viola who turned up trumps for me in my Adrian'smole account when I had a go at single spins in EP.  It seems she's a regular Pachincko girl and not part of the Anniversary collection.  Or was she?  When was she added?  Was Winter Viola part of the Anniversary bunch?  It confused me a bit until I learned there are three versions of Viola.

Never mind, she has the best stats of the three and may become a useful addition to my team.

Viola and Sugu were added on Wednesday as the 2 new pachinko girls for this month. Winter Viola was the first Viola released and was renamed from "Viola" in preparation of her "base" form being released, and was originally part of the Winter Chill event in January. Slightly confusing, I know.

[Zorba the Geek]

5 minutes ago, GeorgeMTO said:

That's not the case. Bosses drop rates are completely unaffected by their levels. It was just a coincidence in their case. Plenty of other people got drops from unmaxed bosses.

Viola and Sugu were added on Wednesday as the 2 new pachinko girls for this month. Winter Viola was the first Viola released and was renamed from "Viola" in preparation of her "base" form being released, and was originally part of the Winter Chill event in January. Slightly confusing, I know.

Yes, I now know.  I edited my post to acknowledge this.  Sugu is a total cutie eh.  Thanks for the info.  Good to know the backgrounds.

[GarfEild]

Given the sheer number of girls available on the bosses, I was hoping the drop rate would have improved somewhat. But I don't consider one event girl and one normal boss drop girl to be improved. Slightly below average, since two event girls is average for me, or used to be.  And really, when the takeaway from an event is that at least I'm not broke... while that in itself is good, that being the high point of the event generally means the event itself was lacking something. I'd hate to think one event girl per event is my new average, but recent evidence supports it...

[trunks2585]

Ok so keep in mind this post is coming from someone that thinks they had decent luck with the event and also plays a lot of other games of this 'collecting' nature.

 

While I agree this is better than last year that only had every girl in the pachinko machine for a limited time, I still feel (like with the legendary days events) it was lacking in being a special event, especially as a two year anniversary event.  It didn't feel like a real celebration to me.  So gonna post some suggestions for maybe next year and what could have made this event more special.

1. Free kobans.  I'm getting this right out of the way.  Yeah I know "you get kobans daily.  Last year you barely got any, etc."  And this is where playing lots of 'gacha' games comes in handy.  I've been through more than one anniversary event and handing out free stuff is always a part of it.  I'm not even saying it had to be a fortune or anything, I'm not even saying enough for a 10x epic pachinco pull, although that would probably be the best to hand out, so users could have multiple choices on what to do with them.  But giving something to the players, so even people that don't win a girl could get something could say at least they were given some kobans to spend on the event besides the normal earnings.

2. Daily events/special scroll.  every 14 day event gets it's own mini story.  Doesn't the anniversary deserve this as well?  I would have been all for either 5 daily event missions to cronicle how the hero and his harem celebrated, or go the extra length and do a special scroll you could click on in the main page, even make it a low energy cost scroll with some low xp payout so new players could complete it and older players that are caught up could have something special to spend their energy on.  A short story of celebrating for the day with the starter girls so newer players don't get spoiled on future girls.  Maybe even use that chance to not just draw some hot sex scenes but a few tender moments between MC and bunny, something that hasn't really been explored much.

3.  Alter the pachinko machine drops to temporarily remove the normal girls.  This isn't something I'm advocating hard for.  I'm just thinking, consider next year at this time, how many girls will be in the game.  Now how many are always in the machine, and how many are event girls that will be brought back in for the event.  Just make the odds better of getting a special girl rather than a normal one.  This DOES relate to topics that have come up before about separating event pachinko from normal pachinko.

4. increasing drop rate odds.  Another topic that's been around before this event.  I'm going to be honest here, there should be no reason that so many girls are up for grabs and many players can't even get a single one in one day.  This right here is what causes the most negativity in the game.  Players have asked for this, devs have considered doing it.  If nothing else, consider either boosting drop rates or making the odds increase just for the anniversary event if it won't be done for anything else.  This wasn't legendary days, this was meant to be a celebration, and no one that puts in the effort of at least spending all their free CP should be walking away empty handed.  And sadly there were a number of posts where that happened.  Personally I didn't have terrible luck, but there were a number that did, so I can't call this event a total success in that regard.  I even decided not to buy any kobans because of the fixed drop rate.

 

These are 4 changes I would make for next year.  As far as putting all the girls on every boss, I can see arguments for and against it.  Namely players knew they wouldn't be able to get all the girls and wanted to be able to pick and choose bosses in hopes of improving their odds to get who they were after.  However the way it was done I feel is the most fair to everyone.  New players don't miss out because they don't have access to a certain boss.  And old players didn't have to farm DL again.  I would keep this idea for next year.

[algguy]

From what I read, some players were much much more lucky than others. I think the system does not give each player the same drop chance; in any case, I would recommend avoiding a casino where the luck between players is this unevenly distributed.

I also note that there is a difference between events. Sometimes both girls drop quickly, one the first two days, sometimes only one girl after 12 days. So, what happens is (I think): the system gives the player at the start of an event a karma for that event. High karma gives better drop chances, low karma low drop chances. How karma is determined is unclear.

In the anniversary event, low karma gave a drop chance below 0.2 %.

 

[Zorba the Geek]

3 minutes ago, trunks2585 said:

Ok so keep in mind this post is coming from someone that thinks they had decent luck with the event and also plays a lot of other games of this 'collecting' nature.

 

While I agree this is better than last year that only had every girl in the pachinko machine for a limited time, I still feel (like with the legendary days events) it was lacking in being a special event, especially as a two year anniversary event.  It didn't feel like a real celebration to me.  So gonna post some suggestions for maybe next year and what could have made this event more special.

1. Free kobans.  I'm getting this right out of the way.  Yeah I know "you get kobans daily.  Last year you barely got any, etc."  And this is where playing lots of 'gacha' games comes in handy.  I've been through more than one anniversary event and handing out free stuff is always a part of it.  I'm not even saying it had to be a fortune or anything, I'm not even saying enough for a 10x epic pachinco pull, although that would probably be the best to hand out, so users could have multiple choices on what to do with them.  But giving something to the players, so even people that don't win a girl could get something could say at least they were given some kobans to spend on the event besides the normal earnings.

2. Daily events/special scroll.  every 14 day event gets it's own mini story.  Doesn't the anniversary deserve this as well?  I would have been all for either 5 daily event missions to cronicle how the hero and his harem celebrated, or go the extra length and do a special scroll you could click on in the main page, even make it a low energy cost scroll with some low xp payout so new players could complete it and older players that are caught up could have something special to spend their energy on.  A short story of celebrating for the day with the starter girls so newer players don't get spoiled on future girls.  Maybe even use that chance to not just draw some hot sex scenes but a few tender moments between MC and bunny, something that hasn't really been explored much.

3.  Alter the pachinko machine drops to temporarily remove the normal girls.  This isn't something I'm advocating hard for.  I'm just thinking, consider next year at this time, how many girls will be in the game.  Now how many are always in the machine, and how many are event girls that will be brought back in for the event.  Just make the odds better of getting a special girl rather than a normal one.  This DOES relate to topics that have come up before about separating event pachinko from normal pachinko.

4. increasing drop rate odds.  Another topic that's been around before this event.  I'm going to be honest here, there should be no reason that so many girls are up for grabs and many players can't even get a single one in one day.  This right here is what causes the most negativity in the game.  Players have asked for this, devs have considered doing it.  If nothing else, consider either boosting drop rates or making the odds increase just for the anniversary event if it won't be done for anything else.  This wasn't legendary days, this was meant to be a celebration, and no one that puts in the effort of at least spending all their free CP should be walking away empty handed.  And sadly there were a number of posts where that happened.  Personally I didn't have terrible luck, but there were a number that did, so I can't call this event a total success in that regard.  I even decided not to buy any kobans because of the fixed drop rate.

 

These are 4 changes I would make for next year.  As far as putting all the girls on every boss, I can see arguments for and against it.  Namely players knew they wouldn't be able to get all the girls and wanted to be able to pick and choose bosses in hopes of improving their odds to get who they were after.  However the way it was done I feel is the most fair to everyone.  New players don't miss out because they don't have access to a certain boss.  And old players didn't have to farm DL again.  I would keep this idea for next year.

For your last point, hear hear!  From now on, with the same two event girls from every boss, this evens out the inequity that older players faced the way things stood.  HH have tried it and proved it could work for us.  Use the drop rate that applied to event girls prior to this last one.

Others do not agree, however, and feel that it is part of the game for more advanced players to have to face Dark Lord most times if they want to get event girls.  It is a matter of choice and making the decision, they say, and there might be something to this argument.  I don't buy it myself, but I can see where people who argue it are coming from.

[Zorba the Geek]

7 minutes ago, algguy said:

From what I read, some players were much much more lucky than others. I think the system does not give each player the same drop chance; in any case, I would recommend avoiding a casino where the luck between players is this unevenly distributed.

I also note that there is a difference between events. Sometimes both girls drop quickly, one the first two days, sometimes only one girl after 12 days. So, what happens is (I think): the system gives the player at the start of an event a karma for that event. High karma gives better drop chances, low karma low drop chances. How karma is determined is unclear.

In the anniversary event, low karma gave a drop chance below 0.2 %.

 

I'm in an interesting position here.  I run 6 accounts so I can see these differences first hand.  Without ever using kobans to recharge combativity, in one account I recruited 4 Anniversary girls plus one boss girl.  In two other accounts I lucked out completely.  However, over past events (for comparison) these unlucky accounts were the most rewarding for me and I lucked out in the account where I did so well this time.

So if you look at the longer picture, it seems to be swings and roundabouts and reflects randomness quite accurately.  I honestly don't think the drop rates are being manipulated account by account.  Apart from my own experience (where entirely coincidentally it is my two most advanced, 1 year old, accounts where I lucked out) other players - newbies and super-advanced (almost veteran ) players alike - scored really well when koban-fuelled recharges were taken into account.  Therefore, it seems to me that it matters not at which stage in the game one is at or how many girls one has already.

It was my third most advanced account that was most successful this time but disastrous in the Retro-Future event.  So there we are...

[fap.titans.gra]

wonderful event!

9K kobans spend, 4 girls I got. I could have started earlier refill  battle points. I would probably be even happier with more girls.
there could be more such events. Girls at all the bosses.  not only in two of five  first bosses. more than one girl at the boss.  let's not forget that there were a lot of girls in EP (and a lot of legendary girls in this) Just a great event.
the only minus that there were no additional kobbons, in missions or for free as last year.

but I noticed one interesting statistic. With so many fights with ROKO SENSEI  he still did not drop me a regular girl.  He dropped 4 event girls.  We know that the drop of events girls is a different from drop of regular girls.  Which shows that the regular drop is significantly smaller. In this event I made about 1000 battles and 0 regular girls, although ROKO SENSEI still has 3 regular girls ( I think that I have done about 2000 battles in general with ROKO SENSEI ).  The conclusion is that it is not profitable to spend the kobans normally on refill  battle points for regular girls drop. Better to play in 10 EP

Edited July 30, 2018 by fap.titans.gra

[Largash]

got zilch. such a disappointing anniversary event, not even quests for some extra kobans or anything. At least when I missed the last legendary girl I got some epic affection gift drops on the way.

[Dobko]

No girls have managed to get :'( only with patchinko one but not from the event