Moderator DvDivXXX Posted March 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) I'll move my updated post here as well (looks like we'll be hitting page 4 soon, and the scrolling back to my previous post is getting tedious): 46 orbs in 4,544 battles 27 orbs in 168 missions Edited April 9, 2020 by DvDivXXX updated 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyia Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Here we go again 14/03/20 screen 15/03/20 screen 16/03/20 screen 17/03/20 screen 19/03/20 screen 20/03/20 screen Edited March 20, 2020 by Karyia 20/03/20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just updated my tables... on the previous page... I'll probably move my data here tomorrow. I also started to make notes on orbs drop rate (Grunt & Donatien, ongoing Event, all accounts except main): got 6 orbs out of 598 fights => so far it's c.a. 1/100 for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyia Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 21/03/20 screen 22/03/20 screen 23/03/20 screen 24/03/20 screen 25/03/20 screen Edited March 25, 2020 by Karyia 25/03/20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Update: Total orbs from villains: 28 orbs from 2911 battles. (0,96% orb drop rate). Total orbs from daily missions: 23 orbs since patch went live on 12/02/2020 (38 days, 114 missions). 20,2% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antimon Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 - 29 epic pachinko orbs in 2428 battles (~1,19%) - 26 epic pachinko orbs from missions in 40 days (0/3 in 19 days; 1/3 in 16 day; 2/3 in 5 days; 3/3 in 0 days) And here the overall report I was waiting for Zamio to publish his updated data in the shards topic, but I guess it will be for next report, and I added Sev's fights data. We reached a pool of 12'000+ total fights and 700+ total epic missions, Good job, everyone!!👏👏👏 Right now we have a ~1,07% drop chance from troll battles and ~21,24% chance of orbs as mission reward. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyia Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Given @Antimon's results, I'm not sure if I shouldn't stop here I'm just very happy with that mission % 😅😂 I hope the report doesn't jinx me! 😜 Great to have some results from all the info gathered, so we can have a better idea of what to expect 👌 Thanks to everyone involved! 👍 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) EDIT / UPDATE: March 26 MISSIONS Six new entries in the table (March 21--26). Orbs rate so far: 64 / 300 = 21.3%. Date Item Ticket Orb Total ----------------------------------------------- 07 Mar 6 6 3 15 08 Mar 4 9 2 15 09 Mar 7 5 3 15 10 Mar 7 3 5 15 11 Mar 5 6 4 15 12 Mar 8 6 1 15 13 Mar 7 5 3 15 14 Mar 6 3 6 15 15 Mar 5 7 3 15 16 Mar 3 8 4 15 17 Mar 4 6 5 15 18 Mar 3 9 3 15 19 Mar 3 5 7 15 20 Mar 6 7 2 15 21 Mar 8 5 2 15 22 Mar 8 7 0 15 23 Mar 6 6 3 15 24 Mar 4 7 4 15 25 Mar 9 5 1 15 26 Mar 6 6 3 15 ----------------------------------------------- Total: 115 121 64 300 Fraction: .383 .403 .213 BATTLES [LIVE Server] Orb drop rate overall my 5 accounts: 22 orbs in 2239 battles (~0.983%). [TEST Server] OK, the numbers get pretty decent already with 5 combativity limits working on them... but let's move up a gear and exploit free kobans on test server! 😎 The idea is to create an account, advance to Gems Kingdom and use the kobans (~27k+) to fight Dark Lord until you can't afford next refill. Using the 10x button you're going to fight around 2300+ times -- the exact number of battles is shown in Tower of Fame, no need to keep records. NOTE: The final result is: Battles minus 4 (quest items) and Orbs minus 2 (granted from tutorial). Numbers below already adjusted accordingly. So I made 7 such accounts: # Orbs Battles Drop-rate ----------------------------------- 1 26 2313 .01124 2 25 2364 .01058 3 36 2334 .01542 4 28 2307 .01214 5 34 2317 .01467 6 30 2321 .01293 7 27 2321 .01163 ----------------------------------- Total: 206 16277 .01266 The final result is 206 orbs in 16277 battles (i.e. ~1.266%)... and it's quite surprising, I expected an outcome of around 1% but it seems to clearly go above that... Edited March 26, 2020 by Sev 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Sev said: the exact number of battles is shown in Tower of Fame, no need to keep records. That is true if you wait until the next 4 hours ToF refresh, so perhaps that is the reason you have obtained such a good result in the test server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 8 hours ago, jelom said: That is true if you wait until the next 4 hours ToF refresh, so perhaps that is the reason you have obtained such a good result in the test server. Ohh come on... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Update for orbs: Total orbs from villains: 32 orbs from 3702 battles. (0,86% orb drop rate). A very bad run lately. Total orbs from daily missions: 29 orbs since patch went live on 12/02/2020 (46 days, 138 missions). 21,0% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 5, 2020 Time for a new page again maybe? Not sure. I hope Antimon is doing okay these days; haven't seen him post in a while. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo_le_Salomo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 i dont know if its the right place here, but i got 57 orbs and from them i have got 7 girls During the last epic pachinko contest does i got 54 orbs and 5 girls ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 7, 2020 20 hours ago, Leo_le_Salomo said: i dont know if its the right place here, but i got 57 orbs and from them i have got 7 girls During the last epic pachinko contest does i got 54 orbs and 5 girls ^^ Not really, but thanks for sharing anyway. We can't use your information as data here, unfortunately. We'd need the bare minimum of "this many orbs from that many battles" and/or "this many orbs from that many missions". We also don't estimate chances to drop a girl from the orbs themselves here (it's been done elsewhere multiple times and it's been incorporated into the shard drop thread in the same section I think; the bottom line is that it's the exact same odds as a normal EPx1 spin, which is estimated at 6.5%). Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Update for orbs: Total orbs from villains: 37 orbs from 4293 battles. (0,86% orb drop rate). The percentage is not improving ... Total orbs from daily missions: 39 orbs since patch went live on 12/02/2020 (57 days, 171 missions). 22,8% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Time for a new page? 55 orbs in 5,790 battles 33 orbs in 192 missions Edited April 17, 2020 by DvDivXXX updated 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, DvDivXXX said: Time for a new page? 46 orbs in 4,596 battles 27 orbs in 171 missions I'll try to summarise all the data later in the evening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 SUMMARY FIGHTS (1) I separated the results into two groups: live- and test-server. 3rd group/table is an overall summary. (2) The UPDATE column in each table shows the given player's most recent update date. I assumed Antimon's tables were already up to date on March 23. (3) I look forward to see more comments on the difference between live- and test-server results. LIVE PLAYER ORBS FIGHTS % UPDATE ---------------------------------------------- Sev 35 3444 1,02% Apr 10 Antimon 29 2428 1,19% Mar 23 DvDivXXX 46 4596 1,00% Apr 10 Makinen 17 1443 1,18% Mar 28 Zamio 39 3129 1,25% Apr 10 jelom 37 4293 0,86% Apr 10 ---------------------------------------------- TOTAL 203 19333 1,05% TEST PLAYER ORBS FIGHTS % UPDATE ---------------------------------------------- TOTAL 206 16277 1,27% Apr 10 LIVE + TEST PLAYER ORBS FIGHTS % ---------------------------------------------- TOTAL 409 35610 1,15% MISSIONS No summary here, sorry 😜 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Sev said: SUMMARY That's amazing, thanks a lot for this. I'll update my previous post with today's data until we reach page 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 39 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said: That's amazing, thanks a lot for this. I'll update my previous post with today's data until we reach page 5. Actually, the most difficult part was to update my own data 😜 You guys on the other hand are all so... disciplined... (I spent most of the time on writing my post actually LOL) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antimon Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Hi there! Sorry for keeping you waiting. It has been a tough time, but I'm fine, and I hope all of you are doing okay, too 💪 Thanks for your concern, @DvDivXXX 😊 And thank you @Sev for your summary, it was a great help to update my fights table (in which I added John 1039's data, too, taken from the shards drop topic), and for your great work with the test server accounts. I reeeeally hope we'll slowly get close to those results even in the live servers overall results, both because it means a better orb drop chance, and because it is close to my initial ~1,25% drop chance from troll fights 😂 Anyway, here my data - 36 epic pachinko orbs in 3595 troll fights (~1,00%) - 42 epic pachinko orbs from missions in 61 days (0/3 in 28 days, 1/3 in 24 days, 2/3 in 9 days 3/3 in 0 days, ~22,95%) and here the overall tables Let's start again saying congratulations to all of us, 'cause we are now at 25000+ overall fights count, and we reached 1000+ entries for the orbs from missions table. Thanks to all of you for sticking with this for this long 😄 This thing said, sadly, both the overall chances have lowered a little bit from last time: - the overall drop chance from troll fights is ~1,02% (it was ~1,07%), which translate in 1 orbs every ~98 fights. We have jelom's pretty bad drop chance balanced by Zamio's pretty decent one, and our live server pool is bigger than Sev's test server experiment, so it seems unlikely we'll reach up to the 1,25% drop chance, and a 1% drop chance right now seems more "real". I do hope it'll rise a little, a ~1,10% wouldn't be bad at all. - the overall chance of a epic pachinko orb from missions is now ~21,17% (it was ~21,24%), which means 1 orb in ~4,7 epic missions So, in a week, one should get circa 8 orbs on average (4,4 from missions + 3,6 from fights) Edited April 13, 2020 by Antimon 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 @Antimon Great to see you're back in one piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyia Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 @Antimon, just wanted to let you know that you jinxed me last time around! 😅😂 That being said... I'm perfectly willing to accept a few... say... 5 orbs back for that? Plus 20% interest, would amount to 6 full orbs 🤣🤣🤣 Good to see you back! 👍 PS - I'm also willing to accept 4 girls (nope... not any of those that just popped up on your mind, of course) instead of the 6 orbs! Special rate, of course 🙄😏😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Antimon said: Hi there! Sorry for keeping you waiting. It has been a tough time, but I'm fine, and I hope all of you are doing okay, too 💪 Thanks for your concern, @DvDivXXX 😊 Welcome back! I'm glad you're okay and thanks a lot for picking up where you left off. In terms of results, it seems to be trending towards 1% for troll fights, and maybe a bit above 20% for daily missions (but we have a much smaller sample for that). Interestingly, for fights I have the biggest sample size among us (for the live server, at least), and my result matches the overall average. The longer we compile data, the more precise and reliable our results will get, but I think it's already pretty safe to assume that the actual drop rate for troll fights is likely a clean 1%. The daily missions have a bigger variance and we can't gather data as fast for it (unless more people join in), so we can't safely narrow it down just yet, but it can't be very far from 20-ish%. We'll see. I'm glad we're all carrying on with this, at any (drop) rate. ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2020 New page? (one of these days it'll happen ^^ and I'm tired of searching for my previous post) 56 orbs in 5,847 battles 34 orbs in 195 missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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