[ 25-Sep-22 ] Angels vs Demons PoA - Discussion

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Angels vs Demons
My savior,

A sex battle is being waged since time immemorial.

Put on your best battle attire and help bring peace between the angels and demons.

You have until the 1st of October to complete all tasks and seduce Light Fiona and Dark Santana. If you also want Light Selena and Dark Mala, you’ll have to double your prayers.

Spank me daddy, for I will sin.

 

Free Path		Bonus Path
Light Fiona	Dark Santana	Light Selena	Dark Mala

Recent Girls
2x PoV
(not part of the event)

Benedicte

Obsessive Layla

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@Noacc

[DvDivXXX]

Light Fiona's fist full pose pic has the same problems I told them about back in the Art Review channel (left leg is too long and right foot has poorly-drawn finger-like toes). On top of that, the other pic we see a partial of in the banner shows a right arm that's either broken or she has Plastic Man's powers somehow. Really not a fan of this particular artist's work.

The other three look fine (for now). Light Selena bears some similarities in style with Fiona, but no glaring mistake from this first pose (it might be the inker instead of the main artist that's shared between the two). Dark Mala was the clear winner at the pencil ("draft") phase, but they gave her a coloring job that's way too dark, almost reminiscent of Alt. Luna's (which hasn't been fixed to this day). In contrast (haha) Dark Santana was already promising as a sketch and got a bright, intense coloring job that suits her very well. Clear winner from my first impression. We'll see how they actually rank once I get to see the whole series.

[F-L-K]

Fiona reminds me of Micahia from Fire Emblem lol
Love the art!
Selena is gorgeous as always! too bad she's on the paid path

[Joker555]

Since Mala is obviously in paid path I'm(obviously) getting it. They even doubled down on Mala in paid path, so the amount of Mala per koban is higher than usual.
It also means that its time to try and get that draft reward. Should not be a problem, but contests are always tricky, might get screwed over for no real reason
And I agree that her coloring is too dark, altho it was always the case for her. But I would rather take too dark than w/e the hell Tentacle Tamer Mala was

[jelom]

Good girls for this PoA and the usual schedule reaching Tier 10 the first day.

But, there is a thing I don't understand.

Why PoA last 6 days in Hentai Heroes and Comix Harem but only 5 days in PornstarHarem?

One of the things that I don't like is that same events have different schedules in the different games when all of them are really the same just with different colour schemes and different images of the girls.

Edited September 25, 2022 by jelom

[aike]

I just glad Fiona, Santana and Benedicte on the free path. I prefer to get girls I don't have instide of 10 "Bunny".

[Madman65432]

11 hours ago, jelom said:

Good girls for this PoA and the usual schedule reaching Tier 10 the first day.

But, there is a thing I don't understand.

Why PoA last 6 days in Hentai Heroes and Comix Harem but only 5 days in PornstarHarem?

One of the things that I don't like is that same events have different schedules in the different games when all of them are really the same just with different colour schemes and different images of the girls.

all values at nutaku harem heroes: Maybe due to the fact, that the champion  (for ex tier 16 60 vs 6) are less at pornstar (ok, and you only have two champions until now, but this still means only 3 runs versus 8,5 at harem) and tier 18 there are only 100 villians instead of 120,  used, etc.

Let's not talk about comix harem that will confuse more. From those values above it might should take 5,5 days...

[OmerB]

I like Mala (and Light Selena). Unfortunately, I won't be taking the bonus path 😥

BTW, Is Mala supposed to be petite (Dark Mala pics in this topic seems to be smaller than the other girls)?

 

[DvDivXXX]

Okay, now I've upgraded and seen all four girls, I can vote. My clear favorite is Selena, and my clear least favorite is Fiona. Mala's and Santana's series don't offer anything particularly interesting to me, but they're decent enough.

The artist who handled Fiona did a botched job in several parts, as I suspected (in particular, although they are capable of drawing toes correctly, as is the case almost half the time, they also seem to think that doodling vague finger-like shapes in a rush is good enough. It is NOT. Also, human arms should never ever look like snakes, unless you're specifically drawing someone with elasticity-related superpowers). A few pics are okay, even pretty good, but the one I'll select in terms of poses will be the only one where we don't see her feet at all. That's how bad this artist renders them.

Additionally, as is so often the case these days the scenes have pics that are based on near-close-up shots, and don't let us see most of the girl(s) or context for the action. Often resulting in poor framing and unfortunate cropping of body parts, too. That's not specific to this one, though, just a trend I've observed over a year or so by now, and strongly dislike. We CAN zoom in if we want when you give us the full picture, you know. Easily. If you give us a zoomed-in pic, however, we can't zoom out. I get it, less stuff for the artists to draw, but still, this isn't a good trend. Since Rosso & co seem to aim at offering top quality art these days, I think this qualifies as a poor artistic decision to be reconsidered. Give us full pictures, please! Not cropped-up partials.

Selena is the only one to have consistently good art AND action and poses that I quite liked. Thanks again for finally reintroducing nail polish (especially for toes) in your tool kit, Alice. We had like 3 or 4 girls ever who had any until recently, and that was a shame in my eyes. I appreciate this change very much, and it's especially nice in Selena's case because hey! the artist who handled her knows how and took the time to draw her feet nicely. ^^ Errr while I have your attention (do I?)... don't forget about those toe rings and ankle bracelets either. The recent Venus variation was massive fan service all at once in that regard, and really awesomely drawn, but I hope to see this kind of thing even more casually on future girls too. Love, Div* ❤️ 

PS: If you want to read the story in order: Santana -> Fiona -> Mala -> Selena. (Not at all intuitive to me, and not the order in which we unlock them either).

[Joker555]

Are contests random every day, or they is a pattern?
I was always confused by it, because quite often CxH contests repeat HH contests, but they are 1 day behind so it feels like there is a pattern, and wiki has contests numbered, but it doesn't seem like current contests follow the list(and that part of wiki looks abandoned).
I'm just curious if I should spend a lot of combat points and get to the last node today so I could spend 125 mil on contest with "donating money" or wait for tomorrow and, possibly, be met with a contest that will force me to sell 1k items
Which, now that I think about it, is not that bad in terms of "price", but sometimes I cant even upgrade the girl without being hit with 403 error and I cant imagine selling 1k items would not get me ip banned

[DvDivXXX]

1 hour ago, Joker555 said:

Are contests random every day, or they is a pattern?

There used to be a pattern that prevented the exact same contest from being picked again (with a 3-day cooldown IIRC), but not anymore. As far as we can tell, nowadays it's purely random selection every day, for each server and on each game. There's a thread where this was heavily discussed a few months ago, hmm maybe half a year or so even (time flies), with primarily Bla, Shal and myself posting (Shal being the one who confirmed this with data).

So no way to predict what you'll get tomorrow, let alone if it will be worse for the contest point task in PoA or not. I'm in the same boat, by the way. I was almost tempted to rush the final PvE task yesterday to have a guaranteed easy "score in contests" task. Today's donation contest on .com isn't ideal but at least fairly doable. I might do a refill or two just to avoid getting stuck with something like the pure "sell items" contest tomorrow (reaching 50k points with that... phew at 50 points per item, yeah I don't have a thousand junk items lying around ^^).

[madahmed]

Il y a 2 heures, Joker555 a dit :

Are contests random every day, or they is a pattern?
I was always confused by it, because quite often CxH contests repeat HH contests, 

I play in nutaku and i noticed that quite often the contest in CxH gets repeated two days in a row.

il y a 33 minutes, DvDivXXX a dit :

I might do a refill or two just to avoid getting stuck with something like the pure "sell items" contest tomorrow (reaching 50k points with that... phew at 50 points per item, yeah I don't have a thousand junk items lying around ^^).

the DC today in nutaku is a sell items. Fortunately i have a lot of a lot of junk items. it was very painful to pass this level hhh.

 

[Zteev]

Well on target to park after finishing tier 23.  My plan was to finish tasks 22 (champions) & 23 (energy) tomorrow, but it looks like I might get 22 done today.

This will help me squeak another tier reward out of PoV, I think, which is a nice bonus.

[Liliat]

Finishing Tier 20, probably around reset time. Then I should be able to finish Tier 23 by the end of the even, which is my typical goal.

It's weird that this event extends in October; usually there's a 1 day cooldown between PoA and Classic. With PoV finishing today as well, I won't be able to save as much combativity as I'd like (I'll just lose a couple of points and a dozen kisses; it's no big deal, but it's a surprise)

[madahmed]

il y a 22 minutes, Liliat a dit :

Finishing Tier 20, probably around reset time. Then I should be able to finish Tier 23 by the end of the even, which is my typical goal.

It's weird that this event extends in October; usually there's a 1 day cooldown between PoA and Classic. With PoV finishing today as well, I won't be able to save as much combativity as I'd like (I'll just lose a couple of points and a dozen kisses; it's no big deal, but it's a surprise)

may be because this is a 30 days month. if it was 31 days you would have a 1 day cooldown

[Liliat]

il y a 30 minutes, madahmed a dit :

may be because this is a 30 days month. if it was 31 days you would have a 1 day cooldown

Every other month is a 30 days month, and I believe it's the first time PoA extends to the next month. The event started a day later than usual.

The calendar typically contains 28 days of (main) events, and then there are some gaps between the events (Between LC and PoA, specifically). The gap was a bit longer than usual this time around.

In June and April, PoA started on the 24th. February was special, as it started on the 22nd (overlapping with LC), but there are 2 less days, so it's expected.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Liliat

[Bobick]

19 minutes ago, Liliat said:

Every other month is a 30 days month, and I believe it's the first time PoA extends to the next month. The event started a day later than usual.

You are right. And an overlap of PoA with KC and / or MDR was always a good help to rush the first stages. I would appreciate they return to the old schedule in November, but maybe it was a conscious decision to avoid those overlaps and incentivize players to spend more resources.

[DvDivXXX]

Phew! Dodged a bullet there. Hope you did too, @Joker555. Did we smell it coming, or did the RNG smell our fear? ^^

Either way, I'm really glad I made that extra refill last night and the last task took me a few seconds and a barely noticeable amount of Ymens instead of having to face the above today. I even got an unexpected bonus out of it: top 4 in the donations contest! Just for my bare minimum 52k points to wrap up PoA. ^^

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Event fully done and I managed the new format much better than last month, I think. It's neither cheap nor exactly simple and the timing is much tighter than for just the first 20 tiers, but it's well worth it in my book. All in all, I've spent an extra 2,460kos in refills and speeding champ fights, not counting the 776kos of league refills I included in my league expenses, or the 1,050kos in Market refreshes that I wanted to do anyway. Plus the usual 7,200kos to unlock the second path ofc. Might sound like a lot to some, but to be honest I usually can't help myself for PoA anyway, even back when it was just 20 tiers perfectly doable without any extra koban spent, I always spent 1-2k kos to smooth up the curve and make tasks line up faster. And I lost the patience to do long runs on any champion by waiting 15 mins between each fight a long time ago anyway. At least this time, I saved up all of the Kisses and Fists from Season and PoA (and a few from PoV but not all, and shockingly I didn't go further than the 5,250-point tier on this one; I expected all those extra PvE and champ fights to take me to the last tier easily, but nope). So yeah, I'm pretty glad, and ready for next month. What? Just because I'm a League addict, doesn't mean I'm not a PoA addict too... 🚬

Now, I need to remember to claim my PvE rewards tonight. I don't trust myself to claim them tomorrow before reset (I fooled myself once in the distant past that way). ^^

Very good event for me, despite my reservations about some of the art as detailed earlier on. PoA is still my favorite event in the game (even more so with this extended format even). ❤️ 

[Alex_i]

Finished the free path today. Not my favorite way of getting contest points but worked out fine. Had a quite a bit of unsold equipment but wasn't enough. Had to use 25 GPx10 orbs on top. Used all my stashed CP and ~100 kobans for a partial refill (kisses) to make the progress smoother.
Now debating with myself whether to unlock the bonus path. If so this should have been done way earlier. There was this discussion about the value not too long ago. In my book this is borderline value.

[OmerB]

I'm almost at tier 24, and contemplating if I should try to finish it. Right now, I'm thinking that I will stop when I'll reach tier 24, saving Combativity for the Classic event.

The 2nd pose of Santana is sweat!

BTW, @DvDivXXX, I'm surprised that you went until the end of PoA. I thought that you would've wanted to save CP for next month's CE and Mythic days

 

 

Edited September 30, 2022 by OmerB

[Incubys]

oh dear, wish I'd read this thread yesterday especially @Joker555& @DvDivXXXlittle exchange. Didn't want to drop below 3 bill yemen, so left myself 14k points short of completing Tier 25. Now I have an extra 280 clicks today .... lol

Edit : done, and not even top spot in the Sell Items contest ! At least that's another EP Draft Orb, now I just need to finish emptying my pool to so I can start using them lol

Edited September 30, 2022 by Incubys

[Joker555]

I decided against going for "donations" because It was impossible to get a good reward bracket, so I just spent enough to get 24k points


In the end I sold enough equipment to see the one I got at lvl 451(33 levels ago), which isn't that bad, just very annoying, and had to take a couple of brakes in between selling batches, there is a slight chance I might get kobans too



 

3 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

Phew! Dodged a bullet there. Hope you did too, @Joker555. Did we smell it coming, or did the RNG smell our fear? ^^

Either way, I'm really glad I made that extra refill last night and the last task took me a few seconds and a barely noticeable amount of Ymens instead of having to face the above today. I even got an unexpected bonus out of it: top 4 in the donations contest! Just for my bare minimum 52k points to wrap up PoA. ^^

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All in all, I've spent an extra 2,460kos in refills and speeding champ fights, not counting the 776kos of league refills I included in my league expenses, or the 1,050kos in Market refreshes that I wanted to do anyway. Plus the usual 7,200kos to unlock the second path ofc. Might sound like a lot to some, but to be honest I usually can't help myself for PoA anyway, even back when it was just 20 tiers perfectly doable without any extra koban spent, I always spent 1-2k kos to smooth up the curve and make tasks line up faster. And I lost the patience to do long runs on any champion by waiting 15 mins between each fight a long time ago anyway. At least this time, I saved up all of the Kisses and Fists from Season and PoA (and a few from PoV but not all, and shockingly I didn't go further than the 5,250-point tier on this one; I expected all those extra PvE and champ fights to take me to the last tier easily, but nope). So yeah, I'm pretty glad, and ready for next month. What? Just because I'm a League addict, doesn't mean I'm not a PoA addict too... 🚬

Now, I need to remember to claim my PvE rewards tonight. I don't trust myself to claim them tomorrow before reset (I fooled myself once in the distant past that way). ^^

 

Very good event for me, despite my reservations about some of the art as detailed earlier on. PoA is still my favorite event in the game (even more so with this extended format even). ❤️ 

Why you went for refills instead of using available combat energy in PoA? If you will need refills during classic event you can get them later, and its easier to spend 200 fists at once than 400 that you will have after buying all the paths. I don't understand why you are doing it this way, unless you are saving it all for Mythic? Even then, unless you do refills you are probably going to skip some classic event girls without additional refills?


That description is the perfect summary why PoA is the worst event 😄 "Need to spend 1-2 kos to smooth the curve". I can add that its always annoying that I need to do league fights to finish the task, but unless its the start of the week I cant do that because otherwise I will be promoted to D3, and I would prefer to avoid the headache. Or I could fight strong opponents\not fight at all in anticipation of the event, but its difficult to manage that and to not be dropped below 30 because competition is active

Edited September 30, 2022 by Joker555

[DvDivXXX]

1 hour ago, OmerB said:

BTW, @DvDivXXX, I'm surprised that you went until the end of PoA. I thought that you would've wanted to save CP for next month's CE and Mythic days

This is a complete contradiction, which isn't surprising coming from you. I did save Fists (tired of typing "PvE fights" and I'm never gonna get used to using "CP" as the acronym for it, sorry guys) for MD thanks to PoA.

18 minutes ago, Joker555 said:

Why you went for refills instead of using available combat energy in PoA? If you will need refills during classic event you can get them later, and its easier to spend 200 fists at once than 400 that you will have after buying all the paths. I don't understand why you are doing it this way, unless you are saving it all for Mythic? Even then, unless you do refills you are probably going to skip some classic event girls without additional refills?

Because the other way doesn't allow me to build a massive stash of Fists ahead of MD. Which yes, I'm going for this time, and usually I don't need much if any refills to complete CE after MD (but I'll do a few if needed). To each their own, I guess.

Case in point ^^

18 minutes ago, Joker555 said:

That description is the perfect summary why PoA is the worst event 😄

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4 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

PoA is still my favorite event in the game (even more so with this extended format even). ❤️ 

 

[OmerB]

55 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said:

This is a complete contradiction, which isn't surprising coming from you. I did save Fists (tired of typing "PvE fights" and I'm never gonna get used to using "CP" as the acronym for it, sorry guys) for MD thanks to PoA.

Because the other way doesn't allow me to build a massive stash of Fists ahead of MD. Which yes, I'm going for this time, and usually I don't need much if any refills to complete CE after MD (but I'll do a few if needed). To each their own, I guess.

You managed to save fists, although tier 24 required using 200 of them?  IIRC, there are less than 200 fists in the PoA prizes, so if you're using 200 fists, you end up using more that you're gaining from it... I'm talking only about the Free path, I didn't check for the extra path, because I'm not willing to pay kobans for it.

Edited September 30, 2022 by OmerB

[Julius Fox]

I decided to complete Tier 19 yesterday so I could complete Tier 20 with all natural regen League fights and not have to dip into my stored kisses, and boy am I glad I made that decision! Saved me the tedium of selling 400 items today.

1 hour ago, DvDivXXX said:

Because the other way doesn't allow me to build a massive stash of Fists ahead of MD. Which yes, I'm going for this time,

Hmm. @DvDivXXX (who often seems to have a little inside info about what's coming) already knows that he's going for the MD girl (which he doesn't always do). Could that mean we're in for something special?  🤔