[ 10-Feb-23 ] Powerful Melodies DP - Discussion

[Antimon]

I decided to finish the path. I had some ugly RNG, as I already said (In the final rush for the last 150 points this morning I got 4 PoP related tasks of which 3 were practically back to back, and 2 daily goals completion tasks). 

Reaching the very end costed me ~1600 kobans (skipping wall-like tasks + market restock tasks) + 650 gems (kind of wasted, tbh, but I have 15k+ of both purple and red ones, so not that much of a problem, all in all)

To be completely fair, it isn't that bad of a price to get a 5*L girl, 1 AM booster, 100 omnigem + some other color specific ones, and a chance of getting a new mythic equip (I got the third identical cool rat that gives attack bonus resonating with my class and defense resonating with yellow themed teams, but this is just my "luck", I guess). 

That said, my opinion doesn't change. It is an extremely stressful design, and even completely bending your playstyle in accordance to what this event asks you to do does not mean you'll have an "easy life" trying to get to the end of it.

The only other time I remember this game to be this stressful/intrusive in my daily life was when they firstly introduced club champions, when, if you did not manage to beat them in 24h, their impression bars would completely reset. I don't think I'll want to put myself in this again, next time.

Edited February 14, 2023 by Antimon

[Zorba the Geek]

I managed to get Lora in one account (more by good luck than good management) and, before I checked out her stats, I was very pleasantly surprised to find out she was 5 stars.  Therefore, I withdrew my criticism of the balance in this event a little.  She IS cute, but the script associated with her affection scenes is lame, to say the least.  But then lameness is par for the course for Hentai Heroes scripting, even though there are some gloriously funny moments (mostly from the artwork though).

Re. her 5 star status, for the same reason I wouldn't feel so bad about having to pay an astronomical amount of kobans to get Amelia.  Boohoo there, though, because this is by far the best version of her - very, very cute and looking less like some creature best studied from the perspective of entomology.  Anyway, this is all very academic because I suffer from koban deficiency disorder and will do so into the foreseeable future.

Still, this event was immensely frustrating in many ways.  I hope it's a work in progress because I can suggest one improvement.  As with Path of Attraction it ought to be possible to get a sneak preview of future tasks by hovering over the reward icons not yet achieved.  This will make it easier to manage priorities for carrying out the tasks, in view of the other competing demands on our attention.  Having said this, had I paid more heed, getting Lora would have been a top priority instead of blowing all my energy on Daily Goals only to discover this was the very next task in DP!

Perhaps, too, HH might want to discard the task involving completing the fourth reward task in Daily Goals because they always seem to be available long after the Daily Goals have been completed.  But that's maybe me because I should leave the Daily Goals tasks until the very end.  I'll bear all this in mind, should the event be repeated.

Overall, it was worthwhile and I give its continuation the thumbs up.

[OmerB]

You can just think about it as a card game, in which you don't know what cards you'll be getting next.

There are many (card) games like this, in which you need to react to unknown and changing conditions. So this event is a lot like that, you need to react to changing conditions. You can love it, or it can sweep you off your feet.

[Kenrae]

24 minutes ago, OmerB said:

You can just think about it as a card game, in which you don't know what cards you'll be getting next.

There are many (card) games like this, in which you need to react to unknown and changing conditions. So this event is a lot like that, you need to react to changing conditions. You can love it, or it can sweep you off your feet.

With card games you know all the cards beforehand and can count what has already appeared, because they don't appear again until reshufling. I actually wouldn't mind it that much if it was like that (like Sultry Mysteries grid).

This is more like throwing dice, pure randomness.

[Xcelsior]

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Done (500 points) on Comix and Pornstar with ~3 days left and no Kobans used.
So definitely doable when you manage your resources and do not get fucked over by RNG.
I was however blocked on the right path around 250 points, so did the rest left path only.

After playing the same event on Comix and Pornstar where I am not a whale, I have to say the main idea of the event is "O.K.".

Whether the second path is worth it for you depends on your own opinion but 7200 Koban are still a hefty price for free players and even for those like me that spend real money from time to time and not regularly.

Things that definitely need to be ruled out until this drops next time (if it does at all) are at least (some or all have been named before):

• Repeat protection against stupid objectives like grabbing the nth daily chest.
  Should not repeat until you had the objectives to grab all other chests that can be an objective.
• Same goes for daily goals.
• Maybe PoV protection as for an event not dropping at the start of the PoV cycle you may have made quite some progress already and might not be able to finish this objective at all.
• Some objectives should not be there at all, like restocking the market against Koban.
  Especially if the cost of doing the objective is almost equal to skipping it.
• Either a drastic price reduction on rerolling objectives or a non-auto timer based reroll option.

Other things like spending gems and so on seem quite doable on my "free" accounts as well with some planning and of course if the RNG god is with you. IMHO the most annoying thing however is getting stuck behind a task that is impossible to skip without spending quite some Koban. Get this on both sides and that's it for a free player for this event.

So all in all, serious overshooting in your greed Kinkoid, that lately shows more often with introducing more and more FOMO events and or events with hefty price tags for arguable value.

Edited February 15, 2023 by Xcelsior
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[Ravi-Sama]

On 2/15/2023 at 4:56 AM, Xcelsior said:

After playing the same event on Comix and Pornstar where I am not a whale, I have to say the main idea of the event is "O.K.".

Yeah, I managed to get the "free" L5 girls on both CxH and PSH, despite being a lvl 100 noob.  I didn't bother unlocking the 2nd path b/c I couldn't, and the rewards beyond the girls were too much of  a hassle.  In the end, all that really matters is that you get the girl(s), which is doable in 4 days, so I won't stress about this event too much in the future.

Having done the event on HH prior, I already knew to stock daily goal chests, daily missions, and PoP rewards, so it went by smoother.  Got both girls in 2 days.  It was more difficult to upgrade girl grades, and sometimes w/ GXP too, since I didn't have many girls and was broke, but I made it work.  On the other hand, it was easier to get girl shards than on HH, b/c there's a full GP pool, and the story bosses were more rewarding.

BB would actually be more difficult for me on CxH and PSH, rather than the DP, which is ironic.  Since I'm an ultra noob.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Ravi-Sama

[madahmed]

il y a 59 minutes, Ravi-Sama a dit :

Yeah, I managed to get the "free" L5 girls on both CxH and PSH, despite being a lvl 100 noob.  I didn't bother unlocking the 2nd path b/c I couldn't, and the rewards beyond the girls were too much of  a hassle.  In the end, all that really matters is that you get the girl(s), which is doable in 4 days, so I won't stress about this event too much in the future.

Having done the event on HH prior, I already knew to stock daily goal chests, daily missions, and PoP rewards, so it went by smoother.  Got both girls in 2 days.  It was more difficult to upgrade girl grades, and sometimes w/ GXP too, since I didn't have many girls and was broke, but I made it work.  On the other had, it was easier to get girl shards than on HH, b/c there's a full GP pool, and the story bosses were more rewarding.

BB would actually be more difficult for me on CxH and PSH, rather than the DP, which is ironic.  Since I'm an ultra noob.

if you are new in comix harem.beware that event calendar is not the same as other games.

for example MD is on 10th of the month and LD is after OD and LC.

[Ravi-Sama]

5 minutes ago, madahmed said:

if you are new in comix harem.beware that event calendar is not the same as other games.

for example MD is on 10th of the month and LD is after OD and LC.

Thanks, don't worry about me, I'm casual on those two.  I knew DD was once off by a day, b/c you mentioned it before.  It figures others might be off too.  All these popups for 30 kos, led me to check those out a little more frequently.

[OmerB]

One of my most hated tasks are 're-stock the market X times', as it forces you to do something that you don't always need, and it might be pretty expensive for new and non-platinum card holders (by new I mean even more than a year long at the game).

Suggestion - count 'natural' market restocks in it - this way, players will have several options: Pay kobans for re-stocking, wait for natural re-stocking of the market, or push for a MC level-up (which also restocks the market). It will open more room for some strategies about it.

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by OmerB

[Julius Fox]

35 minutes ago, OmerB said:

One of my most hated tasks are 're-stock the market X times', as it forces you to do something that you don't always need, and it might be pretty expensive for new players (by new I mean even more than a year long at the game).

Suggestion - count 'natural' market restocks in it - this way, players will have several options: Pay kobans for re-stocking, wait for natural re-stocking of the market, or push for a MC level-up (which also restocks the market)

 

I like this idea, Omer. If they're not going to get rid of the market restock task, at least allowing the natural re-stocking of the market to count would make it more in line with some of the other tasks where you can either pay kobans up front to complete right away or else wait a while to clear them for free.

My final thoughts on the event: it ended up being OK, but could be much better with some of the small tweaks others have suggested, such as giving players a certain amount of free rerolls, decreasing the cost of the paid path, and axing the tasks that are impossible to complete without waiting a day (such as the "complete daily goal" tasks). I ended up getting to 1000 potions around the middle of Day 4, and only spent kobans to skip a task once. Since the path is pretty short and it only takes 500 potions to complete the girl, it seems like most players should be able to at least get the girl without spending kobans. It does require you to save up resources and withhold cashing rewards, but I actually kind of enjoyed figuring out the strategy of that part of it, especially since it was only for 4 days. I can see how that would annoy a certain type of player though. My biggest complaint would be the value of the non-girl rewards, especially compared to Boss Bang where you get 45,000 affection in addition to the girl. The AM booster and Mythic Gear are nice, but 100 of all gems doesn't seem like much for completing the event; maybe throw in some Mythic Affection items like BB?