Please fix Kanako's breast size KK

[Gotaku]

Dear Kinkoid,

we all love that you made parody of Delia. She's a beloved character and it's good to finally see her in the game. The problem is the artist gave her absolutely atrocious breasts, an impossible inhuman balloon size. As if some random kid who's never seen breasts before drew her. It's not sexy, and it's a rather insulting bit of art towards women, especially coming from a company that promotes sex positivity. The XXXL size breasts have long been a problem in the art department, but this one takes the cake.

We hope you take a moment to fix this character, who deserves better. We've even included a quick example, feel free to use it.

With regards

[DvDivXXX]

I'll admit, the simple edit with reduced size at the end of the post looks a lot better already. This is really good art, don't get me wrong (some of the sneak peeks I couldn't help myself checking might be some of Toon Dude's best works). It's more of a design issue (and it's not necessarily the artist's decision, probably not for something this oversized).

There's definitely no shortage of big breast fans among the player base, but this goes a bit beyond a simple fetish and into visual caricature territory imho. Which doesn't really fit the overall artistic vision and purpose of the game. Not sure how many players feel that way. Just in case, @Tohru - Kinkoid.

[Ravi-Sama]

Don't listen to them.  She's perfect just the way she is.  It's a hentai game.  Big tits suit her just fine as a MILF.

*buries face in titties and motorboats*

Art by club3, moisture, mhs, barleyshake, orphen, & easonx.

Edited May 1, 2023 by Ravi-Sama

[Methos2]

I see nothing wrong with Kanako. Breasts on petite women look larger. Nothing grotesque about that. Plenty of real women with natural breasts look like that. Believe me, I've done the research. 😜

[Gotaku]

Can Ravi's 14 year old friends please leave this forum and go back to 4chan. K thanks.

Edited May 1, 2023 by Gotaku

[DvDivXXX]

Err... Okay, it's fine to give different feedback, but please let's avoid overt misinformation.

1. "MILF" means a "mature" or "older" woman (compared to the typical sexualized females around their early 20s), nothing else (it stands for "Mother I'd Like to Fuck", even if the term evolved a bit since then; the typical focus especially in terms of the fetish and porn niche is on the apparent age of the woman, not the fact that she may or may not have had children).
   
   -> Please stop incorrectly claiming being a MILF and/or a mother has anything to do with breast size. It does not.

2. Breasts looking proportionally bigger on a short or small woman isn't wrong, but it's basically off-topic. The effect in question isn't that big, and we typically estimate body parts proportionally anyway. That is, if you put the exact same pair of boobs on a 180cm chubby woman and on a 160cm slim woman, they'll appear bigger on the latter, because what matters are the proportions. We have no idea how many cubic meters those things on Kanako's drawings are supposed to be in absolute terms, but we can see clear as day that they're each bigger than her head. And no, there's nothing resembling this kind of disproportion from real-life women, except maybe a few fringe cases of very extreme surgery (and a woman like this would require a harness and a lot of support to slow down her spine from inevitably snapping from the constant pressure; much more so if we were to imagine these are natural breasts rather than silicon implants, as the former are much heavier than the latter).
   
   Regardless of whether or not one finds this type of unreal boobs attractive, they look nothing like any real woman who ever lived (for long, at least, "Lolo Ferrari" comes to mind among other horror stories of plastic surgery abuse; rest her soul). That's even the point and possibly the appeal of this oversize fantasy, I think.
   
   -> Please don't pretend Kanako's breasts are realistic in any way, this just can't be taken seriously.

Thanks for your understanding and honesty, folks.

[430i]

I think the boobs (or rather one of them) is straight up bad in the default and 4th pose and even big boob connoisseurs should be able to see that...

[Ravi-Sama]

Another way of looking at it, is she's Darla's Mom, aka Misty's Mom.  This is also why they both share similar dual hair colors.  Darla has many variants, and is known for being petite and flat chested.  Her Mom being super busty, grants an opportunity to appreciate both extremes of titty sizes.  They contrast each other nicely in the Haremverse.  

Since it's a hentai game, that implies a certain suspension of disbelief, and exaggerated art is embraced.  It's not supposed to be super realistic.  Also, it's a parody.  Do you really want her to have non-existent boobs resembling Delia Ketchum in the Pokemon anime?  That was for kids.  Also, everyone knows Professor Oak sent Ash off on his journey, so he could get busy w/ his Mom at home..., but I digress.

We've never seen Misty's Mom in the anime b/c she's deceased "Rose Waterflower (Mother; Deceased)."  Therefore, the parody that's loosely based off of Ash's Mom, and that's meant to be Darla's Mom in the Haremverse, is almost an original character, and her tits can be any size the artists choose.

Go admire Darla's itty bitty titties, and leave poor Kanako's massive knockers, and her back pain alone.

Edited May 1, 2023 by Ravi-Sama

[Methos2]

8 hours ago, Gotaku said:

Can Ravi's 14 year old friends please leave this forum and go back to 4chan.

No need to be insulting. Everyone got their kinks.

7 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

We have no idea how many cubic meters those things on Kanako's drawings are supposed to be in absolute terms

She's Darla's mom. Darla is petite and the source material is also a petite woman. It's logical to assume that Kanako is petite.

Are we really arguing about her extra cup size being unrealistic?! This is a hentai game that gives you werebunnies, werewolfs, and WERESQUIDS to have sex with. Is this where you draw the line?! BTW Kanako looks not much different from Squishy. Their physique on their poses look the similar. I don't remember any uproar when they introduced Squishy.

8 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

there's nothing resembling this kind of disproportion from real-life women

I guess you haven't heard of Hitomi, Lucie Wilde, and their natural K+ cup colleagues.

 

[Zteev]

3 minutes ago, Methos2 said:

Are we really arguing about her extra cup size being unrealistic?! This is a hentai game that gives you werebunnies, werewolfs, and WERESQUIDS to have sex with. Is this where you draw the line?! BTW Kanako looks not much different from Squishy. Their physique on their poses look the similar. I don't remember any uproar when they introduced Squishy.

I guess you haven't heard of Hitomi, Lucie Wilde, and their natural K+ cup colleagues.

 

 

Methos is 100% correct. I'm from the US and we use different cup sizes, so I had to convert K+ cup to US standards. I personally know a number of females who had the equivalent breast sizes, and were short. The thing that's most odd about this art (I have really no clue about the parody) for me is the waist, as the females I know that had ginormous boobs while younger either got breast reduction surgery or got fatter.  The boob size is plausible. Is it common? No, of course not.

I had a buddy, may he rest in peace, who had been knocked out by his girlfriend's boobs hitting him in the head. I have heard this story from both of them, so I completely believe it.

[panove]

I don't like the idea of Kanako's breast shaping. This game is far from being about realism in all things, and this is its MASSIVE 😉 advantage (not counting the character's two left or right legs periodically appearing). The game is already full of girls with small breast sizes and just big ones. Leaving Kanako with this breast size makes her unique and does not stand in line with other big-breasted girls. Seeing such art, I want to get her into my harem, and I will definitely remember her among all the others. Therefore, I will be very upset if she will  become "realistic".

[madahmed]

Il y a 10 heures, Gotaku a dit :

Can Ravi's 14 year old friends please leave this forum and go back to 4chan. K thanks.

CSC ?

[garadron]

Not every girl needs to cater to every player's tastes. I'm not a fan of such exaggerated jugs but I know it's a kink for some people so I don't mind. It's 1 girl, guys, I think we can survive this calamity as a community.

[Gotaku]

Congrats guys, let's just give up on improving this game forever. Don't come to me if you ever need help fixing anything anymore. Jfc.

[DvDivXXX]

9 hours ago, Methos2 said:

18 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

We have no idea how many cubic meters those things on Kanako's drawings are supposed to be in absolute terms

She's Darla's mom. Darla is petite and the source material is also a petite woman. It's logical to assume that Kanako is petite.

This doesn't really address my point, (even assuming she's petite, we don't know the actual size of her breasts), but that's moot because we actually agreed on this particular point all along anyway (I mentioned it earlier, saying your point isn't wrong, but not relevant imho). I was saying that the relative size of a body part matters more than its absolute size, and you were saying big boobs look even bigger on a small woman, which is the same idea. We just phrased it differently, so never mind.

9 hours ago, Methos2 said:

Are we really arguing about her extra cup size being unrealistic?! This is a hentai game that gives you werebunnies [etc.]

Not really. This is a common misconception in fiction in general. Having fantastical elements in an imaginary world doesn't mean writers can get away with anything (arguably, I'd say on the contrary: the bigger suspension of disbelief you expect from the audience, the more crucial it is to stay consistent with your world's own rules). We have weresquids and multiple types of deities and magic and parallel dimensions and a once-human male superhero slash god capable of cumming a seemingly unlimited number of times in a row while staying hard and even less believable things, sure. This doesn't take place in the real world and we suspend our disbelief accordingly. But what's not explained away by the "shut up, it's magic" rule reverts back to standard expectations. A girl having hooves instead of feet because she's a satyr or whatever is perfectly fine, whereas a human(-like) character having two left feet is still a mistake.

I don't have a problem with Kanako's boobs being unrealistic. And I don't have a problem with others liking them this way either. You were saying they don't look grotesque and plenty of real-life women look like her, which sounded ridiculous to me and I even thought it was a tongue-in-cheek comment. Because love them or hate them, these boobs easily cross Uncanny Valley all the same. It seemed weird if not outright dishonest to pretend they look perfectly realistic instead when they clearly don't, and you don't need them to be realistic to "justify" liking them. That's all.

9 hours ago, Methos2 said:

BTW Kanako looks not much different from Squishy. Their physique on their poses look the similar. I don't remember any uproar when they introduced Squishy.

I never even noticed that, but you're right!  Squishy has really large boobs, pretty much as big as her head even, but they never bothered me. I think this has more to do with the shape than the size in that case. Ben's drawings for her are better balanced and less, well, cartoonish than Toon Dude's work for Kanako, so maybe that's why I didn't mind the former while the latter kind of stunned me. But that's a fair comparison regardless, especially if we look at Squishy's 5-star pose next to Kanako's 4-star pose (spoilers ahead):

Spoiler

 

9 hours ago, Methos2 said:

I guess you haven't heard of Hitomi, Lucie Wilde, and their natural K+ cup colleagues.

I hadn't heard of either of them, you're right. And your comment and couple of pics sent me down a rabbit hole I didn't expect, to be honest. ^^ Now I know about sites such as BodySize and Boobpedia, which I had no idea existed before this (to be fair it's not surprising at all, we have WikiFeet and so many more niche wikis, what would have been weird is if there hadn't been one about titties ^^). I'll admit I wasn't aware of these mainly because I'm not into very big boobs at all, so I never searched for this body type (I even usually walk away from it).

The surprising thing to me is that until now I had only known of unrealistically giant boobs IRL as the result of surgery. I've known or seen many women with giant natural boobs but they always had the body type to match (typically, chubby in general). Since natural breasts are mostly fat, especially very large ones, they tend to naturally shrink when a woman loses weight (and they're often among the first things to go, even). And frankly, even if there are rare exceptions of women who happen to have a ton of fat in their breasts but basically nowhere else in their body, they don't look realistic to me. Real doesn't always mean realistic, unfortunately. ^^

Furthermore, I didn't go too deep in my research either, because I don't care all that much, but it didn't take long to find confirmation of my strong suspicions that both of your examples are very likely enhanced in an artificial way, even if it doesn't seem to be from drastic surgery. Quoting Boobpedia here: "As of 2017, her breasts have grown to an unprecedented 34O cup. Over the years Hitomi's breasts have grown drastically since the beginning of her career when she was a J Cup"... Yeah, no. Boobs don't magically grow on a woman from her mid-20s to her mid-30s, at least not boobs alone and without some form of clinical intervention. Either she had extra fat injected (which used to be a common practice before the 90s to early aughts scalpel craze), or she switched to a Sumo diet while having liposuction done regularly everywhere except on her boobs, or some other trickery. David Copperfield didn't actually teleport the Eiffel Tower, you know, there was a trick too.And in any case, whether this type of insanely oversize boobs exist on some otherwise thin women in nature or not, they don't look any more believable to me than Kanako's drawings (or many similar ones from the oversize niche):

Spoiler

 

 

At the end of the day, to each their own and to be clear I'm not judging those who like Kanako's current design. Everyone has their kinks, not every girl or scene is going to please everybody, and that's something I've always encouraged. I'm okay with some stuff I dislike being in the game for others to like, so I can get stuff I like even if others don't. I just felt this particular series of pics went a bit too far into comical exaggeration and that it went past the point where even big boob enthusiasts would like it, but it does seem that I was wrong on that one, so fair enough.

If this is enjoyable material for a large enough number of players, and particularly if the extremely large boobs make it uniquely enjoyable for them, then I no longer think it should be changed. I'd be quite the hypocrite if I went up in arms against that design just because I don't like it, when I keep asking for more variety and less vanilla stuff so that more people get to enjoy their respective kinks. So yeah, let oppai fans enjoy this one, actually! 👍

Edit/PS: Come to think of it, that was a really nice opportunity to open my eyes a bit more on stuff I usually don't pay as much attention to as others, and I've changed my mind on this particular character mostly thanks to your input. So thanks for that, @Methos2. I appreciated this exchange. ❤️ 

Edited May 2, 2023 by DvDivXXX
updated

[Karxan]

A good parody should be an appreciation of the Original Work that inspired the new creation.

While i appreciate bountiful bosoms, this is too many layers of artistic license to meet the basic criteria.  This isn't a problem for most porn sites, but Kinkoid is trying to cater to manga & video game fans & rpg gamers.  Everyone has their own preferences & headcanons, and deviating this extreme is going to be offensive to some of their players.  The dev staff should have considered that; i don't know if they did or didn't.

So, while i do want a few more huge breasted beauties in the game, i think the parody for Delia should be revised as per @Gotaku's edit.

On 5/1/2023 at 1:14 PM, DvDivXXX said:

I'll admit, the simple edit with reduced size at the end of the post looks a lot better already. This is really good art, don't get me wrong (some of the sneak peeks I couldn't help myself checking might be some of Toon Dude's best works). It's more of a design issue (and it's not necessarily the artist's decision, probably not for something this oversized).

There's definitely no shortage of big breast fans among the player base, but this goes a bit beyond a simple fetish and into visual caricature territory imho. Which doesn't really fit the overall artistic vision and purpose of the game. Not sure how many players feel that way. Just in case, @Tohru - Kinkoid.

I would welcome KK Originals as well as parodies of characters that are stupendously stacked to begin with.  Catering to one niche to the alienation of another, is bad business, & as a business KK shouldn't be fine with driving some customers away.

 

On a related note, i am disappointed with members of the community acting like spoiled children.  Being petty & rude is uncalled for & 100% not necessary.

You've wasted your time & energy for a single exaggerated parody that isn't worth the effort expended.  You'll get what you want one way or another; it doesn't have to be at the expense of others' enjoyment of the game - it shouldn't.

I was going to provide detailed suggestions for other big breasted girls but now i'm not in the mood to bother.  Those who tried to shame & humiliate Gotaku should be ashamed of themselves.

[krayzo]

A monster breast like that and there's no pose sucking them, I'm disappointed!!!

Seriously, what I think is that the size of the breasts doesn't match the body. But I will abstain from being for or against change.

[Methos2]

10 hours ago, Karxan said:

You'll get what you want one way or another; it doesn't have to be at the expense of others' enjoyment of the game - it shouldn't.

That is absolutely right. It's the reason I chimed in. Kanako isn't my dream girl but I don't find her offensive either. Players shouldn't push for art change due to their own preferences. Others may like the artwork just fine. Like others had said, it's 1 girl out of a 1000.

11 hours ago, Karxan said:

Those who tried to shame & humiliate Gotaku should be ashamed of themselves.

I don't recall any personal attacks to Gotaku. However, he told people who disagree with him to leave the forum. I thought that was harsh. He then threw a tantrum with his last message when more people suggested to leave Kanako alone. I don't think anyone tried to shame him. Some of us just don't agree with him. We can disagree but we need to be civil.

15 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

it didn't take long to find confirmation of my strong suspicions that both of your examples are very likely enhanced in an artificial way, even if it doesn't seem to be from drastic surgery. Quoting Boobpedia here: "As of 2017, her breasts have grown to an unprecedented 34O cup. Over the years Hitomi's breasts have grown drastically since the beginning of her career when she was a J Cup"... Yeah, no. Boobs don't magically grow on a woman from her mid-20s to her mid-30s, at least not boobs alone and without some form of clinical intervention.

I appreciate this exchange too. My comment was tongue in cheek but big boob skinny women do exist. Thankfully, they are easier to find than unicorns. Hitomi has a medical condition known as macromastia. It's a hormonal issue causing her breast tissue to continually growing.

Before we next lobby fixing two left feet and duck faces and risk offending left feet enthusiasts and wereduck lovers, lets agree on fixing Monkey Christ Nikki Nova first. She gives me the chills every time I saw her on Harem and Champion pages. 😜

[DvDivXXX]

6 hours ago, Methos2 said:

I don't recall any personal attacks to Gotaku. However, he told people who disagree with him to leave the forum. I thought that was harsh. He then threw a tantrum with his last message when more people suggested to leave Kanako alone. I don't think anyone tried to shame him. Some of us just don't agree with him. We can disagree but we need to be civil.

Gotaku's comment about going back to 4chan was tongue in cheek as well. It made me laugh and I wouldn't have expected anyone to take it seriously. I understand his frustration and I even share it to an extent, although I came to the conclusion that this is for the greater good. If someone started a petition to kill the recent trend of (finally!) giving some of the girls ankle bracelets, toe rings, more frequent nail polish etc. I would be pretty sad, as those changes really improved my enjoyment of some of the art. I'd much rather have some girls with attributes I dislike but others do and vice versa, rather than having to make do with the vanilla bare minimum.

On that note, my long-term lobbying still includes and will always include clearing up the good name of lesbian incest fantasies as well as prostate stimulation for the MC (both of which are not only legal but perfectly fine and even rather common in drawn hentai content, and have their fans for sure), although getting Rosso Kinkoid to backpedal on these arbitrary "bans" now that they've been in place for awhile will take time and patience (baby steps and sometimes baby steps backwards, such as the latest F&F variant being the very first one of them with no real interaction, sigh).

For now, I'd rather focus on a low-hanging fruit: the almost total lack of what the foot fetish community simply refers to as "The Pose" in this game, despite ironically having a very wide variety of poses and being otherwise very foot fetish friendly. It's a bit of a mystery to me. The very few times we actually got a pose using The Pose, as for OG Venus (the character, but also done by Venus, the artist) it was such a treat! 🚬

And this isn't mutually exclusive with big boobs:

Art by sciamano240.

(I know @Tohru - Kinkoid is reading and forwarding feedback, so yeah ^^ hope this gets through too).

Anyway, live and let live, love and let love and all that, folks. (And now for some reason I have Bob Marley's "Could You Be Loved" stuck in my head, dammit). ❤️ 

[SamRei]

I think the breast sizes in this game are too big anyway, and for me personally they are a big turnoff, so I would like to have a little more variety regarding that part of the game in general. Kanako up there is a 0/10 for me, and the edited version maybe 2/10

Everything beyond a handful is wasted anyway

[Ravi-Sama]

On 5/3/2023 at 10:39 AM, DvDivXXX said:

Gotaku's comment about going back to 4chan was tongue in cheek as well. It made me laugh and I wouldn't have expected anyone to take it seriously. I understand his frustration and I even share it to an extent, although I came to the conclusion that this is for the greater good. If someone started a petition to kill the recent trend of (finally!) giving some of the girls ankle bracelets, toe rings, more frequent nail polish etc. I would be pretty sad, as those changes really improved my enjoyment of some of the art. I'd much rather have some girls with attributes I dislike but others do and vice versa, rather than having to make do with the vanilla bare minimum.

I recognized it as an attempt at an insult, but didn't take it personally, b/c he doesn't know me.  I'm way smarter than that.

On 5/3/2023 at 10:39 AM, DvDivXXX said:

For now, I'd rather focus on a low-hanging fruit: the almost total lack of what the foot fetish community simply refers to as "The Pose" in this game, despite ironically having a very wide variety of poses and being otherwise very foot fetish friendly. It's a bit of a mystery to me. The very few times we actually got a pose using The Pose, as for OG Venus (the character, but also done by Venus, the artist) it was such a treat! 🚬

Here's some Delia Ketchum foot action.

Art by kohsaka jun.

[Dramut]

If you look at hentai heroes like this, you'll notice that your breasts are generally drawn way too big.
I haven't seen a girl with a flat chest until now, which I think is a pity.

I have not yet met a woman with oversized breasts, or generally with large breasts, where I have seen women with large breasts is on porn sites!

I think that one is afraid if one draws a young woman with weschbret breasts, that one can then get angry with that.

I personally like women who don't have large breasts.

[ORGASMA]

On 5/21/2023 at 12:07 AM, Dramut said:

I haven't seen a girl with a flat chest until now

There are some girls with small breasts at HH, but they are rather rare... 🙄

 

But in the last time the new girls very often have disproportionately huge breasts... and they don't look like breasts, but more like balloons 🤪
My thoughts about it: "Are there pubescent teenagers at work, which never seen real breasts? Or some balloon-tit fetishists?" 🤔

Seriously, it's really not nice anymore... 😕

Edited June 3, 2023 by ORGASMA

[Zorba the Geek]

On 5/1/2023 at 11:28 AM, Gotaku said:

Dear Kinkoid,

we all love that you made parody of Delia. She's a beloved character and it's good to finally see her in the game. The problem is the artist gave her absolutely atrocious breasts, an impossible inhuman balloon size. As if some random kid who's never seen breasts before drew her. It's not sexy, and it's a rather insulting bit of art towards women, especially coming from a company that promotes sex positivity. The XXXL size breasts have long been a problem in the art department, but this one takes the cake.

We hope you take a moment to fix this character, who deserves better. We've even included a quick example, feel free to use it.

With regards

 

On 6/3/2023 at 1:02 PM, ORGASMA said:

There are some girls with small breasts at HH, but they are rather rare... 🙄

 

But in the last time the new girls very often have disproportionately huge breasts... and they don't look like breasts, but more like balloons 🤪
My thoughts about it: "Are there pubescent teenagers at work, which never seen real breasts? Or some balloon-tit fetishists?" 🤔

Seriously, it's really not nice anymore... 😕

Hear hear!  However, sadly, there would be a number of guys (and maybe girls) who like these enormous tits.  I'm worried that they might be the kind who went to English public schools and who go for girls whose boobs are twice the size of their heads!

 

The great thing about HH is that they have created girls with tits of all shapes and sizes - tits for everyone, and just how it is in the real world.  I agree that some of the huge-breasted creations are an insult to women, but, perversely, also to those women who have naturally huge breasts and would prefer not to stand out in the crowd.  I know a few such women and every one is seeking breast reduction surgery, mainly to try to alleviate the back pain that comes from having them.  Each is very self-conscious about the size of their breasts, especially when aid breasts are always being stared at in public.  Everyone wants to be seen as normal, whatever that means, even though there are women who have used their endowment to make money in the porn industry, in the same way guys with huge cocks become the so-called studs of the same industry.

I'm one of those 'few' who prefer the small breasted women - like Lupa, Koemi and Shao.  Lupa's are especially gorgeous and they are perky and pointy with it.  The great thing about Lupa is that the artists have remained very faithful to the sie and shape of her breasts, which tells me that HH see her breasts as a key part of her character.  Most of my girlfriends had small breasts (A or B cup) and their breasts would respond to stimulus in interesting ways (such as becoming puffy when aroused, and enlarging nipples) it was very arousing for me, for these women were no more able to hide their state of arousal - even when clothed - than I could hide my growing erection beneath my trousers when participating in their arousal!  In contrast, from my experience, the giant boobs would just hang there and I could see no changes, almost as if they were numb to any stimulus.  This is not always the case and some porn stars, like Chihiro Manaka, have amazingly nipples (and huge breasts).

Lately, I too have seen an obsession with huge boobs in HH - poorly drawn at that, and far too gravity-defying for reality.  As has been amply explained, not all boobs are huge and just about any such boobs would normally be a little (or very) droopy (especially those of the seniors like Rose, Any, Janice or Louise Carott.  Of course, those magical girls and goddesses would, of course, have boobs that defy gravity, yet, in the case of Beauty, only those strong enough to hold them without tiring would have her blessings.  For all that, her boobs remain defiantly non-saggy, somewhat of a paradox.  But, as I said in another post, I believe this is a bit of an inside joke by HH writers.  I certainly laughed.  If these girls were ever to be over-stimulated during foreplay, they would surely express silicone instead of breast milk!

I appreciate that this topic was created and it certainly stirred up a number of replies.  I especially loved the term 'balloons' and, in a similar vein, the RAF created a bit of an inside joke when they named their jackets (that could be used as life jackets) 'Mae West's.  Anyone who knew of this famously big-breasted American actress could make sense of RAF's choice of name.  I often use the term 'airbags' which has the same safety analogy.

[Booj]

I get sympathetic lower back pain just looking at her.