Anniversary Event Discussion

[Takhoor]

Got 5 girls from this event spent about 6000 kobans worth it got 4 event and 1 Boss drop

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[Voyrsurfer]

I was really hoping for Bunny's Mom, but she eluded me.

I did end up with a ton of new girls including Easter Bunny, and four other legendaries.

[NobodyPrime]

Well, I was here the first anniversary. I remember that I had just entered in the game, and had about 2000 kobans. All the girls of the game was in pachinko, and yet, I managed to get 2 of them, in four tries. I thought "That was amazing! But next year, I will be better prepared and get lots of girls more!"

That thought keep me playing the game all the time. Save kobans and stuff to be prepared to the anniversary. And finnaly, it came.

Lots of girls in pachinko, lots in all bosses. It was better than I imagined! But the days passed. All of them. And when I saw, despite my efforts, even a single girl drop from Roko, the guy I was taking money. But ok, I thought, I still have my kobans, lots more than the first time, and all the girls I really wanted was in pachinko.

My kobans gone. The only girl that dropped was Tsubane, a permanent. The girls I most wanted are from the first events, always avaliable during the events only in pachinko, so I probably will never have a chance to get them again, unless if they appear by the second time in a revival event, but what are the chances of that happens?

That crowns my disapointment. I guess that the event was amazing, but my bad luck made it the worst event I already participate, considerating all my expectation and the results. I'm sad😳.

Edited July 31, 2018 by NobodyPrime

[Jack_HH]

On 7/29/2018 at 6:33 AM, rty said:

Devs don't know the meaning of the word celebration.                       

I think this sentence pretty much sums up the event.

On the first anniversary, players were given kobans and money depending on the time they have been playing, that was a good way of celebrating the anniversary with the users, a nice way of saying "thank you for being with us all this time."

While this event offered pachinko exclusive girls on bosses for the first time, and a huge and good assortment of them on top of that, making it, potentially, the best event ever, 100% of the event results were left to luck, that means that statistically speaking, it was a fact that some players would end up with nothing. Hell! It was a known fact that some players were going to spend kobans on bosses... and still end up with nothing.

And if we consider that even regular events have missions girls with an assured drop achieved only by playing daily, the fact that the anniversary event, a celebratory event, relegates everything to Lady luck, knowing that by doing that some players won't only end up with nothing, but will get punished for playing the event, is preposterous, and it was obvious and righteous that there were going to be complains.

Personally, I got 3 girls by fighting Roko sensei with the given combativity plus above 3k kovans, so around 3 girls for 11 days worth of fighting, what I would consider a normal outcome. And I did get a girl I really really wanted, but I also saw leaving another girl that I really really wanted, plus a bug didn't allow me to buy kobans, so I didn't even have the chance to fight for her.

Anyway, my outcome was acceptable but it really pains me seeing so many people with horrible results, when things shouldn't have been this way.

Edited July 31, 2018 by Jack_HH

[Zorba the Geek]

1 hour ago, Jack_HH said:

I think this sentence pretty much sums up the event.

On the first anniversary, players were given kobans and money depending on the time they have been playing, that was a good way of celebrating the anniversary with the users, a nice way of saying "thank you for being with us all this time."

While this event offered pachinko exclusive girls on bosses for the first time, and a huge and good assortment of them on top of that, making it, potentially, the best event ever, 100% of the event results were left to luck, that means that statistically speaking, it was a fact that some players would end up with nothing. Hell! It was a known fact that some players were going to spend kobans on bosses... and still end up with nothing.

And if we consider that even regular events have missions girls with an assured drop achieved only by playing daily, the fact that the anniversary event, a celebratory event, relegates everything to Lady luck, knowing that by doing that some players won't only end up with nothing, but will get punished for playing the event, is preposterous, and it was obvious and righteous that there were going to be complains.

Personally, I got 3 girls by fighting Roko sensei with the given combativity plus above 3k kovans, so around 3 girls for 11 days worth of fighting, what I would consider a normal outcome. And I did get a girl I really really wanted, but I also saw leaving another girl that I really really wanted, plus a bug didn't allow me to buy kobans, so I didn't even have the chance to fight for her.

Anyway, my outcome was acceptable but it really pains me seeing so many people with horrible results, when things shouldn't have been this way.

Yes, I know.  Some people have all the luck - some great and others rotten.  I agree re. last year's.  I think I got 6000 kobans at a time when they were a very scarce commodity and I hadn't been playing long at all (just under a month).

Some have said it's all our fault for being stupid if we had blown all our kobans in advance of this event, but the fact is we have an event or revival nearly weekly now and it takes over 5 weeks to save kobans by getting 150 per day (admittedly more if there's an event on so the accumulation is faster).  So basically we have to pick and choose what event to take part in for 10x EP participation/combativity refills.  That anniversary event seemed to be shaping up just like any other until we got a closer look at it.  By then it was too late for many of us.

This anniversary needed to be ring-fenced better and announced much longer in advance as to the intention to create yet another casino event, albeit with a difference.

I'm personally satisfied with my haul (not the truckloads that others got but good considering no expenditure of kobans for refills) so I'm not moaning on my own behalf but for those who missed out despite all their efforts.  Some spent Euros trying and this is a particularly cynical outcome for an event that is meant to celebrate it's second anniversary where everyone is meant to be included in the party.  There's nothing to be gained by some people who did well in poking the finger at those who lucked out.  Instead, if HH want to hang onto those who were left justifiably disgrunted, those who missed out needed to be treated with sympathy and a pledge to do better for them next year.

Edited July 31, 2018 by Zorba the Geek
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[jyepie]

why did so many people get neanderthal gork? 

I swear it feels like she had a higher drop rate.... it was like if the  devs really wanted us to have her 

[Pepe Lolo]

30K free kobans burnt in this event in exchange of 12 event girls + 3 boss-drop common girls. Even without counting the common girl drops, 12 event girls would have a cost of 64800 kobans in x10 epic pachinko, so I really liked the anniversary party. None of this girls were mandatory either, I didn´t feel forced to waste a single koban, so everything seems fair for me. 

I know that a lot of players got the same number of girls without spending so many kobans, but this not change this was a good deal for me: it´s like playing 10x epic pachingo and winning 2 girls with each try. 

I wish I had more kobans to waste in the pachingo too, since I´d love to have Val Red-battler and Viola, I´ll try to have more kobans for the third anniversary

Thanks, Kinkoid´s team.

 

By the way... I was grapped by Gork too. The first even girl I got.

Edited July 31, 2018 by Pepe Lolo

[PlusIon]

8 hours ago, NobodyPrime said:

That crowns my disapointment. I guess that the event was amazing, but my bad luck made it the worst event I already participate, considerating all my expectation and the results. I'm sad😳.

I got 3 girls. I am not sure how i feel because 2 are the girls I wanted most (Dietra and Bunny's mother). Now my kobans are gone and I feel like I used them in the wrong fashion. I had enough for 3 Epic 10 x spins but only did 1. The rest I did were 1x and I got taken to the cleaners.  

[Ben9]

I didn't spend on refills and didn't get a single girl, anniversary was a non-event from my perspective

[Eman]

For me, this anniversary event has been bitter-sweet. I like how they designed it, and how many girls were available from bosses and the Pachinko, but it's also clear that it was also designed to make us spend as much kobans as possible.

In my case, I ended getting only one girl, and one that I didn't care about, and none of my five or six refills worked. I'll certainly don't remember this event as being satisfactory.

[HotHero]

 HATED this event.  No girls after paying every day 250 plus battles against Bremen . And ever time i came here everyone is bragging how they got the girls.

[Sinner]

11 hours ago, jyepie said:

why did so many people get neanderthal gork? 

I swear it feels like she had a higher drop rate.... it was like if the  devs really wanted us to have her 

I really wanted her, too, but didn't any girl.

[GarfEild]

I think very much mixed results like these are the reason I would prefer to see some sort of visual tool indicating how close to a drop a player is. Even if it was only available for events, and even if it only worked for one girl during the event, and even if participating only guaranteed a single drop whether it was event-related or not... that would still be better than what is in place. Which is no guarantee at all. I know some people tend to think that awards you get solely for participating aren't real awards, but on the flip side, if you participate and get nothing at all... it's almost like you didn't participate, or there was no event for you at all. Which is a pretty weird feeling to have about an event that was apparently much improved from a year previous.

[Lleibi]

1 hour ago, GarfEild said:

I think very much mixed results like these are the reason I would prefer to see some sort of visual tool indicating how close to a drop a player is. Even if it was only available for events, and even if it only worked for one girl during the event, and even if participating only guaranteed a single drop whether it was event-related or not... that would still be better than what is in place. Which is no guarantee at all. I know some people tend to think that awards you get solely for participating aren't real awards, but on the flip side, if you participate and get nothing at all... it's almost like you didn't participate, or there was no event for you at all. Which is a pretty weird feeling to have about an event that was apparently much improved from a year previous.

If the drop rate is fixed for events as they say, then there is no way to say how close to drop the player is. Because at every battle, the player is exactly as far, or as close, to getting the drop.
It would be different for the troll girls, where the drop rate increases with the amount of battles without a drop, for each troll. In this case such a counter would help.

I'll also give an update on my event experience: after my last post, i didn't do any more refills. I ended up doing around 1400 battles, and eventually got one event girl, Val Abrael. This is my main account in Nutaku.
In my hentaiheroes account, I took all the free battles (240 for 5 days, if i am not wrong), and 11 refills (at 14 battles per refill, 154 battles; this is a very new account, started one week before the event). So for 394 battles, no drop.
So, among both accounts, nearly 1800 battles, and just one drop. I got a drop rate per koban that was much worse than epic pachinko use (I would have gotten 3 girls with 10x epic pachinko).

[Felis]

Yeah... Boss girls drop rate was terrible. Battles: 20 saved before event + 5x48 everyday + 6x20 refills = 380 ; Girls dropped: 0 ...

I know, I know, it's a buisness not a charity but it is a little dishartening. Even more so when I realized not all of the old girls will be available in pachinko. 

Just my luck I guess...

[natstar]

The new tanned girls event starts soon both donatien and edwarda have the event girls so you cannot farm your highest level villian/boss for them unlike the anniversary event also we are back to the two normal event girls.

The anniversary event was the best event that they have done it was better than last years event that had them all in epic pachinko so it had no chance of getting them for free and if you did not have enough kobans to do combativity refills during this event then you would not have had enough to do epic pachinko during last years anniversary when they were all in epic pachinko.
I have been telling people on the forums to save their kobans up for the anniversary event for months because I was here for last years anniversary event so i knew you would need kobans saved up.

[Zorba the Geek]

17 hours ago, jyepie said:

why did so many people get neanderthal gork? 

I swear it feels like she had a higher drop rate.... it was like if the  devs really wanted us to have her 

Oh yeah!  I got her twice - in two accounts.  In one of those accounts she joins the original Gork whom I gained from the Dark Fantasies event, but in this I also got Mala which I was happy about.

Interestingly, the account where I got Mala and Gork was my only success out of the four I was running at the time.  Is there some karmic hint that maybe I should be converted to BDSM/bestiality?  Don't answer that!  It's altogether too awful to think about!

Just think, there was a wealth of beautiful girls to recruit from that event, plus Gork, but I did manage to get Treasure twice (in addition to the account where I won her in EP some time ago).  I also managed to score Victoria in the right class for me on the very last available try before the event closed and that was in my weakest account where I lacked star performers.  She's also pretty gorgeous in her own right and I thought so when she first appeared in Gems Kingdom.  I thought, "Gee, it would be lovely to have her in my harem", and my wish was eventually granted!

Incidentally, there is a hint that Finalmecia, too, might eventually become available.  In Heroes' University it was said that there are a lot of heroes who would like her in th...  Then the sentence abruptly terminated.

Roll on Tanned Girls.  By all accounts that's the next event before the Sexy Journey revival and I assume it'll be the full 14 days.  Sadly, apart from the usual battle against the villains, I will not have enough kobans saved to try EP.  I want to wait anyway to try to win the heart of that very beautiful and sassy version of Regine in Sexy Journey, assuming she will be available in EP.

[Crimson scale]

The pachinko only girls have terrible timing. Most players are going to be tapped for kobans after the anniversary so they are going to join very few harems. They should have known that and just had two boss girls and maybe worked on a story scroll or some more permanent pachinko girls.

[Jack_HH]

"We told you to save kobans for the anniversary".

Man, that argument is pretty weak, specially because that recommendation wasn't really backed on something tangible.

An example of a well planned event is "legendary days". Since the very first one we were told the kind of girl we could expect (legendary), the way she was going to be attainable (boss drop), the length of the event, the fact that this girl was probably never going to be obtainable again, and even her specialty, all of that with weeks of anticipation.

On contrary, for the second anniversary we had this information:

1- The precedent of the  first anniversary.

2- The fact that this time there were going to be girls on bosses.

With the given information it was easy to assume that we were going to be given a chance to get missed event boss girls on their respective bosses (just like the revivals), and we might get kobans to play at the anniversary, just like last year. And if we were going to be given kobans, what was the need to save them? And if we had most (if not all) the past event boss girls, we might even pass on this event while gaining some extra kobans.

If we were told that:

1- There weren't going to be gift kobans this time. And...

2- Exclusive epic pachinko girls were going to be with bosses.

With those two parameters, our initial approach to this event might have been very different.

I guess it was supposed to be a surprise, but the surprise was that a lot of players weren't ready for the anniversary, and others, instead of getting girls, only lost kobans.

The fact of the matter is that this event was both badly planned and badly executed, and left a lot of us feeling, instead of having won something, that we lost the opportunity to get exclusive pachinko girls for a high chance and moderate investment.

I just hope these ex-exclusive pachinko girls return for the third anniversary, now that we know what to expect... assuming the devs won't change everything again...

Edited August 1, 2018 by Jack_HH

[algguy]

9 hours ago, Lleibi said:

If the drop rate is fixed for events as they say, then there is no way to say how close to drop the player is. Because at every battle, the player is exactly as far, or as close, to getting the drop.
It would be different for the troll girls, where the drop rate increases with the amount of battles without a drop, for each troll. In this case such a counter would help.
 

 

The drop rate cannot have been fixed for this event. Statistics do not work this way; the difference between the "luck" of "lucky" and "unlucky" players is too large. 

[Habi]

4 hours ago, Jack_HH said:

"We told you to save kobans for the anniversary".

Man, that argument is pretty weak, specially because that recommendation wasn't really backed on something tangible.

An example of a well planned event is "legendary days". Since the very first one we were told the kind of girl we could expect (legendary), the way she was going to be attainable (boss drop), the length of the event, the fact that this girl was probably never going to be obtainable again, and even her specialty, all of that with weeks of anticipation.

On contrary, for the second anniversary we had this information:

1- The precedent of the  first anniversary.

2- The fact that this time there were going to be girls on bosses.

With the given information it was easy to assume that we were going to be given a chance to get missed event boss girls on their respective bosses (just like the revivals), and we might get kobans to play at the anniversary, just like last year. And if we were going to be given kobans, what was the need to save them? And if we had most (if not all) the past event boss girls, we might even pass on this event while gaining some extra kobans.

If we were told that:

1- There weren't going to be gift kobans this time. And...

2- Exclusive epic pachinko girls were going to be with bosses.

With those two parameters, our initial approach to this event might have been very different.

I guess it was supposed to be a surprise, but the surprise was that a lot of players weren't ready for the anniversary, and others, instead of getting girls, only lost kobans.

The fact of the matter is that this event was both badly planned and badly executed, and left a lot of us feeling, instead of having won something, that we lost the opportunity to get exclusive pachinko girls for a high chance and moderate investment.

I just hope these ex-exclusive pachinko girls return for the third anniversary, now that we know what to expect... assuming the devs won't change everything again...

ok let me tell you one thing: it is always good to have stocked kobans if something unusual happens. now you are prepared for the future. 

btw: i can't comprehend (first) legendary days as good example here. the salt afterwards was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger and it was the worst communicated event i witnessed in this game. back then we didn't even know that "legendary" will have a meaning in terms of gameplay. we all suspected that's just the attribute for her never returning. the length and start/enddates of the event were a real mess. her speciality was unknown until the first drop iirc. her being obtainable only from dark lord was the only information that was backed AND wasn't changed. and we were far from knowing it weeks in advance. the event was in the news on 23rd and it started on 28th (march) so even less than one week.

(i don't want this to become a legendary days salt thread i just want to give counterarguments)

Edited August 1, 2018 by Habi

[_shal_]

5 hours ago, algguy said:

The drop rate cannot have been fixed for this event. Statistics do not work this way; the difference between the "luck" of "lucky" and "unlucky" players is too large. 

So how do you explain an experience like mine, with stretches both of very good luck and very bad luck in the same event?

[Blain]

Nothing to argue about

You either read the Discord and French forums and listen to what the devs and players who have been playing this game since day 1 say about what could happen in the future, or you don't

if you do read those forums you are aware of what's coming and can prepare ahead of time. I do, and saved my kobans for the anniversary event. Cost me 14k kobans, but I got 11 more girls

if you don't read those forums, you will not be prepared, and you have a much smaller chance of success, which leads to a higher chance of complaining about the success of the better prepared players

[Eman]

Well, all I can say is that I've learned the lesson.

From now on, instead of the 10 single Epic Pachinko tries I did during every event, I'll only do 9 and save 540 kobans for the next anniversary. After all, one try more or less during the events won't change things all that much and, given that it's possible that those girls will be available again from bosses, it makes the decision even easier.

That means that, by the next anniversary (if I'm still here), I'll have saved 540x12 = 6480 kobans that are roughly 28 refills/560 fights. If I don't get anything with those refills next year, then something is broken somewhere.

[Zorba the Geek]

17 hours ago, GarfEild said:

I think very much mixed results like these are the reason I would prefer to see some sort of visual tool indicating how close to a drop a player is. Even if it was only available for events, and even if it only worked for one girl during the event, and even if participating only guaranteed a single drop whether it was event-related or not... that would still be better than what is in place. Which is no guarantee at all. I know some people tend to think that awards you get solely for participating aren't real awards, but on the flip side, if you participate and get nothing at all... it's almost like you didn't participate, or there was no event for you at all. Which is a pretty weird feeling to have about an event that was apparently much improved from a year previous.

I suspect, at the time, there already was a hint that a drop could possibly occur within the next two or three tries.  This may not apply now because the performance and win displays have now been subtly changed (into this current event - Tanned Girls).

Normally the money and 'You Won' icons pop out at nearly the same time as the star burst.  I've noticed that when a girl is about to drop (I'm talking about single plays), the money icon display happens late significantly after the starburst - the middle stays blank for a time.  It's at this point that the money and win icons eventually pop out, or the middle of the expanding star burst blackens as the silhouette of the girl you won descends into place beneath the complete girl image.  Some computer monitor displays of this effect are better than others; it's great on my laptop, but far less pronounced on my desktop PC.

I had this happen about three oddly blank displays in a row for every girl but 2 that dropped in the anniversary event.  That was 10 out of 13 girls across 6 accounts.  The only other time this did not happen was when Music Sylvia dropped, possibly because I got her first time up and there was no time for any prelude.  The display for the two that didn't drop after these preludes reverted to the simultaneous money icon/starburst display for the rest of the attempts so it's no sure answer by any means.

Earlier on, when Mavin dropped for me in this account, the middle of the screen remained blank for longer than usual twice in a row and the third time there was an agonising wait for something to happen, then the middle went dark, the silhouette descended and shrunk into place beneath the image of Mavin.  It was almost as if the RNG was teetering on a choice of whether to release Mavin or not!

In the current event this pattern of blankness within the starburst has not occurred for me, suggesting no immediate drops were likely, and so it turned out.  If they do happen and you run out of combativity, this might be a good cue to recharge, but, then again, it might be off the mark completely.

Not a certainty by any means, but I've been trying to analyse this very issue for some time and this is the closest I've come to at this stage.