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So the "calculated" part of the new pachinko seems to be the same as the "adjusted" drop rate for the first legendary girl. Why am i not surprised...Well it's  good to know, this way i'll save my kobans for the only useful thing they are worth spending on - legendary girls.
To all the people posting your results from the PTR, thank you for the info! Even though it leaves a bad taste for what's to come it certainly was helpful!

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Oh, I forgot to mention my own test...16 spins:

equip, equip, gift, avatar
equip, equip, equip, gift
equip, equip, equip, equip
equip, gift, gift, avatar
equip, equip, gift, gift
equip, equip, equip, gift
equip, equip, gift, gift
girl, equip, gift, gift
equip, gift, gift, avatar
equip, equip, equip, gift
equip, equip, gift, avatar
equip, gift, gift, avatar
equip, equip, equip, gift
girl, equip, gift, gift
equip, equip, gift, gift
girl, equip, equip, gift

3 girls, 33 equips, 23 gifts, 5 avatars

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As of now:

Habi: 5 girls in 43 spins
_shal_: 3 girls in 16 spins
Moe Overload: 0 girls in 11 spins
Chthugha: 1 girl in 1 spin
wertyu: 1 girl in 2 spins
trunks2585: 2 girls in 4 spins
Discord1: 1 girl in 14 spins
Discord2: 5 girls in 14 spins

Total: 18 girls in 105 spins -> a little more than 17%

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I created 5 new accounts on the test server which gave me a possible 75 event pachinko spins.
I did spins on an account until I had all girls or was out of kobans (you start with 27k).
In total I did 67 spins, so I got 268 things.
In total I got 18 girls, 16 avatars, 124 equips (23 Mono HC, 19 Mono CH, 16 Mono KH, 67 Rainbow) and 110 gifts (30 flowers, 41 chocolates, 23 bracelets, 16 lingerie).
The girls and avatars can only appear once in a spin, so to get their dropping percentage, you'll have to use the total number of spins, and not the total number of things gotten.
This leads to percentages around the 25% for these two things.
Another noteworthy things is that in the event equipment sets, there always are 3 mono stats and 3 dual stats.
In this event pachinko they are replaced with 3 mono stats and 3 rainbows on the same spots.
That would mean that rainbows should appear as often as the other 3 combined.
It's close to that so far (58 monos vs 67 rainbows).
As always I get the most chocolates... for me those chocolate gifts are the most numerous.

And now the crux of the whole thing:
3 accounts got all 5 event girls, 1 account got 3 girls, but 1 account got nothing.
No matter how good the drop rate is, this system will always screw somebody.
It can be a very expensive joke.
It will stay as it was: are you going to gamble for a certain event girl like it was with the single epic pachinko.

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I created 4 accounts, results in spoiler:

 

 

Account 1: got all 5 girls in 10 spins.

girl: Commander Cattleman
equipment HC
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950

equipment HC
equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500

avatar: Bernadette Barda
equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: flowers +700

equipment HC
equipment CH
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: chocolates +950

girl: Bernadette Barda
equipment KH
equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow

girl: Alexandra
equipment KH
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

girl: Lieutenant Kayle
avatar: Faw Marjoa
equipment KH
gift: flowers +700

equipment KH
equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: flowers +700

avatar: Alexandra
equipment KH
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200

girl: Faw Marjoa
equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow
gift: flowers +700

avatar: Commander Cattleman
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950
gift: chocolates +950

avatar: Lieutenant Kayle
equipment CH
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: bracelet +1200

equipment HC
equipment HC
equipment CH
gift: flowers +700

 

Account 2: got all 5 girls in 11 spins.


girl: Lieutenant Kayle
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

girl: Commander Cattleman
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: bracelet +1200

girl: Bernadette Barda
avatar: Commander Cattleman
equipment KH
gift: bracelet +1200

equipment HC
equipment CH
gift: chocolates +950
gift: chocolates +950

equipment CH
equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: flowers +700

equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

equipment KH
equipment CH
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: lingerie +1500

girl: Faw Marjoa
equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200

equipment KH
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: flowers +700

equipment HC
equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950

girl: Alexandra
equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200

equipment HC
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

equipment KH
equipment KH
equipment rainbow
equipment rainbow

equipment HC
equipment rainbow
gift: flowers +700
gift: flowers +700

equipment HC
equipment CH
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: flowers +700

 

Account 3: got 3 girls in 15 spins.
 

equipment CH
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: flowers +700
gift: flowers +700

girl: Alexandra
avatar: Bernadette Barda
equipment rainbow
gift: flowers +700

equipment HC
equipment rainbow
gift: flowers +700
gift: flowers +700

equipment HC
gift: chocolates +950
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

equipment HC
equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950

equipment HC
equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: lingerie +1500

equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: flowers +700

equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: flowers +700

equipment KH
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

girl: Lieutenant Kayle
equipment KH
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: chocolates +950

gift: lingerie +1500
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700
gift: flowers +700

equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: bracelet +1200

equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

girl: Faw Marjoa
avatar: Alexandra
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

 

Account 4: got 4 girls in 15 spins.
 

equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700
gift: flowers +700

avatar: Commander Cattleman
equipment CH
equipment CH
equipment rainbow

girl: Lieutenant Kayle
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950
gift: chocolates +950

equipment CH
equipment CH
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

girl: Faw Marjoa
equipment HC
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950

equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

avatar: Faw Marjoa
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950
gift: chocolates +950

equipment CH
equipment CH
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

girl: Alexandra
avatar: Lieutenant Kayle
equipment HC
gift: bracelet +1200

girl: Commander Cattleman
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950
gift: chocolates +950

avatar: Alexandra
equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: flowers +700

equipment KH
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: flowers +700

equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: bracelet +1200
gift: chocolates +950

equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: chocolates +950
gift: flowers +700

equipment CH
equipment rainbow
gift: lingerie +1500
gift: chocolates +950

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I made a new test account and got 2 girls out of 13 spins.

This seems more like a greed move to me. Let me get this straight... you want to jack up the prices from 5400k to 7000-8000k which is $50-60 USD for 1 non gaurenteed event girl? You can get a new ps4 game for that price.

Sure the free Kobans obtained in the game will give you a good CHANCE at 1 event girl per month but leaving little kobans left for combatative refills makes it harder to get the other 5 girls from the event alltogether.

You are also assuming people will be more willing to spend kobans on a 1800k spin rather than a guaranteed 7000-8000k spin when the average amount of kobans spent would be around the same price to get 1 girl regardless. But instead of the 100% girl drop we are left with aprox 95% droprate after spending 7200k kobans? Wheres the logic in this?  I have not seen one person say they prefer a RNG drop over a gaurenteed one.

This devaluates the kobans we get for the price we pay and its just not worth it to me anymore. I will be done spending money on all my accounts until something is done. 

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So also the information from the test server.

294 attempts - 61 girls

Drop rate of about 20-22 percent

The best - 3 girls for 4 attempts, and the worst - 21 attempts in a row and zero girls.

I still do not understand why it is impossible to make the option of guaranteed receiving a girl for a large amount for those who do not want to risk, but apparently this is no longer important. In any case, I personally am not interested in such a casino.

 

"You're born with nothing and better off that way
Soon as you've got something
they send someone to try and take it away"

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8 hours ago, Tommy55 said:

I did 1 spin and got Cattleman, since you're making a tally.

 

Way to go!!!!  Thank you for the positive post!!  You encouraged me!!  hahaha.

So I did two spins: 

Results: 

Alexandra,

enough affection to get her out of the spacesuit

AND-  Legendary Mono-stat, worth at least 4M and a lot of smiles!! 

Thank you again Tommy55

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results!
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Well, the Event girls are not in the old Epic Pachinko so I took my 11K Kobans hoping I'd get lucky and get the one I wanted.

I got the other 2 I didn't really want, 2 Avatar items that I didn't want, and a whole lot of gear that was vendor trash for me, only 1 was actually Hardcore and had higher stats than my current gear.

6 spins, 11K Kobans gone, effectively between the $50 and $100 purchase so almost $75 worth.  I'm not impressed.

At this point I'm debating on cutting Patreon, I've got almost 60 days left on Monthly Card, but after that, I'm probably going to cut WAY back on how much I play.

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The new Event Pachinko is rather for new players not for old ones.
Generally the assumption is that the event girls in the Epic Pachinko, do not break through the overall number of girls in an Epic Pachinko. The chance is simply too small for event girl. 
For new players this new Event Pachinko, it is the possibility of a bigger choice + easier legendary girl and legendary equipment to get.  For old players unfortunately Event Pachinko is just a waste, because they have cleaned up the Epic Pachinko of girls, so there are actually just have event girls in Epic Pachinko, and you know that the cost of getting a girl in an Event Pachinko(7000-8000 Kobans) is higher than in an Epic Pachinko(5400 Kobans). So this change is made for new players, but the game developers said that they want to do something more with the Epic Pachinko in 2019. Maybe it will be a change in the plus, but we will see in 2019. For now, we only know that the overall cost of obtaining a girl is more expensive in an event Pachinko, but the rarity of girls is higher and there is a lot of legendary equipment (unfortunately the majority of rainbow ones, for new players is good, for the old, not necessarily) + this is gambling (there is no guaranteed girl)

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5 hours ago, Kinkoid said:

In fact, it is also about checking with a database way closer to the live servers than the internal ones we are using it on. So it helps a lot to release it on the test server, even one day before the launch.

 

@Cantrix, as stated by some people here, the important part of the game is about seducing girls, so the Epic Pachinko will have a more focussed goal, yet will keep its interest in the long run. We will continue to work on it and to improve it too. The goal of this new pachinko is to separate both to be able to improve on any of them without interacting with the other.

 

Regarding the contest, currently, it is not possible to integrate the Event Pachinko within them without making massive changes on the overhaul system and we are planning to improve them in the first part of 2019, we preferred to wait.

Not really. I feel less incentive to finish the epic pachinko girls now. It was alway that distant goal, what if I clear epic pachinko, I can get a shot at all event girls finally. Now the event girls may be within reach, but that epic race is killed. At least for me.

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So, I waited to test out the new Event Pachinko myself before commenting.

First let me say that I had recently cleared out the permanent Epic Pachinko girls so that I could more easily go after the event girls I wanted as they came up.  I did this with some real cost.

This addition of the Event Pachinko caused me some trepidation but I decided to spend  at least what it would have cost me to get the Sci-Fi Pachinko girls I wanted.  After 10 spind (18000 kobans), I netted exactly one girl, a couple useful single stat items, a couple avatrs that I couldn't care less about and a bunch of gifts and garbage items.  Needless to say, these results are below what I would have been guaranteed under the previous Epic Pachinko system.

This marks the deeath knell for this game as far as I'm concerned.  After spending real asset to get myself to a desired position, Kinkoid has changed the rules.  I will not put another dime into this game.  This change has totally destroyed the pursuit of my objective, to collect the event girls for a reasonable cost.

I have about 20days left on my monthly card.  When that runs out, I'm gone.  Good luck to those who stick around.

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