Circus Event - choosing the best girl and discussing

[Lemus]

There will be two questions this time. First, let's pick the girl we like the most as usual. And in the second survey, let's give an overall assessment of the quality of the art of girls.

If you say my opinion, I will briefly say this - I definitely like the girls from this event more than the previous one in December. But to the best samples of the past artist still something is missing, but this is my purely subjective feeling. But on the whole, I'm more of a positive reaction to the new art.

SPOILER ATTENTION, ALL POSES!!!

Snake Charmer Mordona

 

Fortune Teller Carine

 

Sword Swallower Liu-Yeng

 

Acrobats Fanny and Fione

 

Magician Crystal

 

Bimbette

[Chthugha]

Just as an impression from the banner; Morgana and Bimbette seem to be drawn by a different artist. The other 4 look like they are from the artist who drew the higher tier villain girls. Those 4 seem to be missing something, which I also have with the higher tier villain girls.

[Bomba]

8 minutes ago, Chthugha said:

Just as an impression from the banner; Morgana and Bimbette seem to be drawn by a different artist. The other 4 look like they are from the artist who drew the higher tier villain girls. Those 4 seem to be missing something, which I also have with the higher tier villain girls.

I think the word you looking for is "quality". They lack quality. A lot of things about them are strange or unnatural. The poses, the way their limbs twist, faces, proportions. I think Falco82 and DvDivXXX will be here shortly for a more detailed analysis of this art. But I think it could be easily seen on the Liu-Yeng's 2nd pose(1star) - Is she supposed to be sitting with her arm behind her? Then her left leg is wrong. Is she supposed to be in mid-jump? Then why is her left arm is drawn that way?

There's just too many mistakes. Some are small, some big, but I think it's the amount of them that changes quality. But you know what, I think this artist is improving. The feet is drown better, so is the use of perspective or angles. It's like "hit or miss" style. And the artist starts to hit more. Few more events and I hope there will no longer be a drop in quality and we can focus more on how great the good parts are.

Mordona and Bimbette looks good in terms of art quality. And I really like Mordona, but... why .. why does she need to have a dick-snake?! Why not just draw a snake with a dick-shaped head, like the one Romero has? But she's so awesome, I can even live with that.

[Karyia]

As already mentioned, I think Mordana and the clown (can't bring myself to say that name 🤣 ) stand out. 

It's like those two are more detailed or have more "layers", they're just more whole 👌

The middle four, I think, have some inconsistencies... for example, I'm still unsure what is going on with the twins there in the middle... is it the shoulder? the arm angle? the outfit? Something is awkward there. But those middle four comparing with the other two, they just seem "paler" in comparison.

Having said that, I also agree that these specific four are an upgrade from the previous week. They seem sort of more balanced, I suppose? Like they're evolving, in a way.

I haven't seen the spoilers but my favorite would either be the clown or the twins (inconsistencies apart). Mordana is pretty good too!

The drawing quality would range from pretty good to average, if we ease up on the inconsistencies... it seems like it's improving! 🙏👍

[szilar]

so i'm not the only one that feel disappointed with a drop in art style. the last legendary girl, Holiday, also was already quite bad, or maybe lazy? the current chapters all requiring generic 20 Energy each also feels very lazy.

[Kojot]

Yep, Bimbette and Mordana look definitely the best. If these two and the other were drawn by different artists, then the first one's style is more appealing to me. I don't say that the second artist is bad, I honestly like all of the girls (especially Fanny and Fione are looking great in this style) but there is something that stands out.

[Falco82]

I agree on the different artists, maybe they are 3 and not 2 but it doesn't matter. Mordona is definitely the best; I'm not a fan of killer clowns as objects of desire but technically Bimbette is also good.

As for the others, ok they are not at the "unclassified" level of Holiday, but they are still at the low level of the Christmas event (and also of the new troll girls), including the immoderate use of the shot from above which, in addition to being ugly to look at would make it impossible to use characters in the profile even if someone liked them.

Regarding the "quality" we go from complex and well-made poses like the second one of F&F to others ugly despite the pose was simple like the third of Carine; feet and hands have problems in several images, the worst for the feets in Liu-Yeng's last and for all those with boots of Crystal, for the hands in Fanny and Fione's first and third for example or the first of Liu-Yeng but I don't want to dwell on this... (And anyway I hope that Liu-Yeng's sword is made of paper as it seems because if she swallows it by bending the neck so little she doesn't last longer than a show 😅)

In general I don't feel like giving the minimum mark, surely there is an improvement but above the sufficiency for me it's impossible. If it were not for Mordona and Bimbette who raise the average we would be still on negative vote.

[pozi]

I have just got Liu-Yeng and I must say she's poorly drawn. Last pose is probably the worst (not just the feet, but also the chair is bad positioned). But her scenes are even worse and only the second one can be considered 'not bad'. Also, Carine just doesn't seem Carine, at least from Liu-Yeng pics. In general, all this new drawings lack life, eroticness and style, and the colours, brights and shadows are also underaverage for any Hentai lover. IMO, this new artstyle could hurt HH even more than all that gameplay, pay-per-win changes everybody's used to complain about

[DvDivXXX]

First of all, thanks for doing this thread and for upgrading the poll to address recent art quality issues separately. I think the middle option would be clearer as "so-so", "decent" or "more or less okay" than just "more or less", but we get what you meant (not sure you can edit it after the fact, anyway, I never created a poll on this forum). I've just made a super long post in another thread, and I'm a bit tired today (happy new year to you all, by the way), so I won't go into too much details for now. Falco and Bomba already covered the basics, for the most part, and the other comments seem to confirm that the quality drop is still big enough that most people at least sense it, even if they don't analyze it too closely. That's not a good sign.

I voted for Mordana (by FAR the best out of those six, even if she's not great either, honestly). As for art quality, I had to go with straight up "BAD", after looking at all the poses, unfortunately. I was initially a bit more optimistic based on initial poses only, but in this case the starting pose was the best one for most of the girls, I must say. My expectations were pretty low after the recent disasters (Holiday, most notably), but they still weren't met.

I initially assumed that Carine and Bimbette would be about on par with Mordana in terms of art quality,  but that's clearly not the case. Carine's first pose is the only decent drawing she got in this batch, and she was clearly not done by the same artist as Mordana or Bimbette, contrary to what I originally assumed. The first pose was likely inspired by Brittany's from the previous event, hence the initial illusion of quality, but it seems to be done by the same person who did the other girls who I knew would be bad from the first pose alone (Fanny & Fione, and especially Liu-Yeng). I strongly suspect it's the same one who made equally bad stuff for Holiday or Melissa already, and it's just not a good enough artist by the standards this game has used us to. There's no sugar-coating it, guys. He/she just sucks. Their work is amateur hour, and it's not okay for a professional gig, sorry.

Bimbette's poses lack variety and precision, and the last pose feels really rushed, even though there are plenty of clear signs that this was done by someone who knows how to draw, at least. It's probably the same artist who handled Mordana, as the style and rendition are very similar, but in that case I can only imagine that they spent most of their time and efforts on Mordana, and then the deadline was fast approaching so they had to botch the job on Bimbette.

The one "good" surprise was that Crystal's other poses aren't quite as bad as I expected. Still not good enough, but not a dumpster fire like Holiday. I'm pretty sure it's the same person who worked on Lee Lee, given the boobs that are weird-looking in the same specific way (odd tit placement, and also overall shape) and beyond that, what little line work there is strongly reminds me of Lee Lee as well (and there is very little line work to speak of, unfortunately, they rely on computer coloring to "fix" the lack of actual drawing yet again).

As I said, Mordana is heads and shoulders above the rest, here. These are actual DRAWINGS made by someone who knows how to DRAW, even if there are a number of mistakes and imperfections, and poses themselves don't vary quite as much as I would like them to. It's... okay. The rest is just outright terrible. Fanny & Fione, Carine and above all Liu-Yeng are just... yikes. Deformities all over the place, inconsistencies, horrible feet, broken backs, broken hips, flat legs, ugly, inhuman faces... None of it intentional.

Again, I can't stress this enough: this is amateur work, and even that could be an insult to many amateur artists who, despite not doing this as a job, can easily draw circles around this professional artist... Just browse DeviantArt and you'll see tons and tons of nobodies who do this as a hobby and still have more to offer than this stuff. Seriously, Kinkoid. I'm sorry for this person that they're not qualified for the job, and I'm sorry that you mistakenly assumed that they were, and I don't want to be mean to either them or you, here... but firing them is something you MUST do, right now, if you want to salvage this game's legacy.

Edited January 1, 2020 by DvDivXXX
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[Gremlinking]

The wrong girl is getting fisted.  If you get that girl in your harem, the character portrait will be the back of her head, which isn't very sexy.  

[3132]

New artist(s) is/are bad. New boss girls are especially terrible.

[Cantrix]

1 hour ago, 3132 said:

New artist(s) is/are bad. New boss girls are especially terrible.

On the whole i agree, the last couple of events the quality of the art nosedived. Though i disagree about the boss girls. Some of the new girls are awesome! I've got Hima and she's my favorite so far. Also got Xia this morning and her 3rd pose is awesome too. Akhates is also awesome! Some of them though leave a lot to be desired. The poses itself aren't interesting i n most of the cases and it some they lack progression - nudity and kinkinesswise. Plainly speaking they are boring.

[Zteev]

I like the idea behind Fanny & Fione, and I think the costume works pretty well. I do prefer the snake charmer, but I think the twins' contortions make it pretty interesting.

[Kojot]

5 hours ago, 3132 said:

New artist(s) is/are bad. New boss girls are especially terrible.

Today I upgraded Xia to second star. Why do her scenes look like taken from wikiHow? 🤔

[Zorba the Geek]

Herrress JOHNNY!!  Ahem!  Great that we could judge on the basis of seeing all the girls' poses, but naughty-naughty, what a spoiler!  I agree with Chthugha that Mordana and Bimbette seem drawn by a different artist from the rest.

For me the rest are frankly awful and I was less charitable in my vote than others.  Take Crystal for example.  In her original form she was (to me) one of the most beautiful girls ever to appear on HH - face and hair as well as the most fantastic pair of breasts in the game.  Great Hentai tradition.  In her new version her boobs appear the same as every other girl by this artist: rounded, large with mid-placed, nondescript nipples.  In her original form they were perky and erotic in her final pose suggesting that artist understood the erotic potential of aroused breasts.  In Crystal's final pose her face looks ugly and strained, certainly not a pornographic turn-on, but just another cartoon drawing.  Also, given her facial expression, the dick in a hat shoved in her pussy reflects none of the muscular effort that such strenuous activity ought to show.  However, her first pose is rather good and the artist has somehow recaptured her lovely eyes and face.

There's a certain sameness: same hair, same eyes and same skinny bodies and shapeless legs and arms, out of all character to those of the original girls.  They are clones of Lee Lee, and Fanny and Fione should be renamed Lee and Lee.  The original poses of Fanny and Fione show the twins as petite, shapely and curvy, definitely not skinny.  Check out their lovely feminine fourth pose in their original form.  Given the sizes of their heads in relation to their bodies, in their new version they seem to have grown quite a few centimetres (final pose).  If one observes a full body shot of a person, that person's height can be estimated by the head-to-body proportion because all adult human heads are around about the same size - at the very least, head size varies much less less than body size (most noticably in young children).  That's why I estimated that Fanny and Fione were petite and very cute in their original forms (in the way Zoe is).  In their new form they are far from cute.

I find the bodily contortions of the girls entirely unnatural.  Here are my reasons for that view:  positions of limbs also reflect strain and effort (some positions are not normal at-rest positions and the effort to maintain them should be reflected in muscle tone and movement (something I mentioned above wrt Crystal's final pose).  As well as this, muscle tone and movement conveys animation and this is very important for such stenuous activity as acrobatics, sword-swallowing... and pussy-stuffing.  This is absent in the new drawings of these girls.  As a comparison of how muscle tone can work in sympathy with effort and movement, check out Mizuki's final pose.  This is a stunning image and her breasts look great as well with wonderful tonal relief to convey their perky form perfectly.  This is very hard to get right so maybe the new artist will improve in time.

I spoke about Carine in an earlier post.  In this artwork, the top-down perspective definitely works better this time, and the artist has worked more carefully to obtain this effect.  Sadly, though, her facial expressions are bland and unchanging, but the artist had at least tried to be faithful to her original form.  However, her faint and fixed smiles seem painted on, and her stare seems fixed and expressionless.  While the persona of Carine originally conveyed a certain emotional distance and sophistication, compare the new poses with her second pose in her original drawing where she's wearing that stunning chiffon, see-through evening gown.  Her smile and slightly hidden, side-on glance is something else and this pose is always the one I use in my harem - sexiness personified... nice bum, too, beneath the fabric!

Mordana?  She's never really appealed to me, but, if I were to be objective, she is very faithful to her original form from Shokushu Tales.  So she gets a big tick from me for this and second place.  It seems other members agree, given that she's their favourite.  I like the 'trouser snake' humour and wonder (with not too much thought) how she might 'charm' it.

Ahhh, Bimbette!!  Yes, she tops my vote by a country mile: sweet, pretty face and lovely eyes where her clown disguise is gradually wiped away in a form of a facial strip-tease - quite novel and subtle.  Very well done!  Her body is fantastic, great boobs and fine, shapely legs that bring back a nice change from the regular thin pins that we see most often on these girls.  I'd like to see a bit more tonal quality in her artwork though.  Just an aside, I wonder if the artists have ever considered creating some cellulite in the girls.  Yuck, you say, but it's a natural part of many girls' metabolism and even a good 30% of girls I see on iStripper have it at the backs of their thighs.  Something to consider perhaps, but I don't expect it would ever fly!

While I have no particular preference, I like the fact that the artists have included so-called 'thicker' girls in their line-up in the way I really enjoyed Summer Geekette whose body form symbolised her 'stuck in front of a laptop screen' geeky persona perfectly.  What got to me is just how similar Bimbette's face, eyes and figure are to a beautiful girl I know and love!  How could an artist have achieved this entirely coincidentally!?  One thing though, as a change, I'd like to see slightly less emphasis on these super-skinny waists that look as if they've been brutally forged into shape by imprisonment in corsets.  While women have skinnier waists than men, there is some natural variation among them and a slightly thicker waist does not take away anything from their sexuality at all, imo.  There would be less suspension of disbelief in the game if some real and representative female forms were introduced into the game, as has been the case with breasts - until now.

Just one last point... my greatest criticism of this artist is that he/she has not been faithful to the original personas of the girls we have come to know and love.  Imagine in real life if the loves of our lives totally transformed themselves with plastic surgery, liposuction and months of stenuous gym activity to result in a Sarah Conner body form and six-pack!  We'd probably be devastated, even if she was a little overweight because that was her persona and cuteness and is who we fell in love with - where her personality and body form are the basis of her integrated identity that we first saw.  To me it's the same with such drastic changes in the artwork for these girls.  The only thing that the artists try to be consistent about are hairstyles and how they define the girls' persona in a rather superficial way, but even this they've got wrong with the new artwork.  This just conveys the importance of introducing a critque panel of artists and other professionals to consider new artwork before its release.  I commend this idea to HH.  But those are my views and I don't expect others to agree with me because they might see the girls in a completely different way from how I do.

 

[Observer_X]

Regarding the best girl, this round I voted for Magician Crystal, with Bimbette getting second only because I never liked clowns too much. Regarding the other girls, i liked much more Fanny and Fione in their first incarnation, and once again I am the voice out of the chorus regarding Mordana, as it is bad for me that the only girl I will get almost for sure is the one I like less in the event. The villain girls will fall in the "average, just two more girls in my harem" category, posing I'm able to obtain them both (I'm only at 22/100 on Carine).

[MaybeRegret]

I hate to say it, but I like this image:
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2020/01/01/Dde.jpg
more than her poses.

[Dr. Lust]

I agree with Zorba the Geeks opinion of Bimbette.

More curvy girls please, like Bimbette.

And less "bird legged" girls like..... please....

[Bomba]

Ok... I expected Falco82, DvDivXXX and Zorba the Geek to be more harsh... so I will say it.

What the hell is this monstrosity under the name of Magician Crystal ?! How dare you use Crystal's name here!

Where did you get her face? It certainly not from this body. If you can even call this thing a body! There was enough said about how wrong her boobs are. And legs. But what about the fact, that she has ...oh wait, let me just put her two first poses side by side.

On 1/1/2020 at 12:55 PM, Lemus said:

Magician Crystal

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Here, so what about the fact, that she has no freaking shoulders?! No clavicle or collarbone. Her arms and boobs just go straight to the neck. Oh, and her arms are getting smaller. It is an abomination!

Honestly, at this point, let this guy draw the art.

There's also this guy. But at this point his art just too good for this game.

 

[DvDivXXX]

4 hours ago, Bomba said:

Ok... I expected Falco82, DvDivXXX and Zorba the Geek to be more harsh... so I will say it.

What the hell is this monstrosity under the name of Magician Crystal ?! How dare you use Crystal's name here!

To be fair, in my case, I'm not familiar with the original Crystal character (yet), so that didn't play a part in my assessment of this variant. Okay, looking back on the wiki, I remember her, well at least her final pose, from a previous discussion in the French section about... art issues, already. ^^ Not a big fan of even the original, sorry (I'll leave it as that).

In terms of art quality alone, as I said, it's bad, certainly a worse job than Mordana or Bimbette, here, but the other three are so terrible that this one seems okay in comparison.

As for the fan art section, well, yeah. I made a similar joke (or strategy advice? ^^) in a another thread. To be fair, the guy who makes dead eyes, snake-like fingers, flat legs and all sorts of other deformities (so the artist behind Liu-Yeng, Carine and the new F&F, possibly other drawings here and there), as well as the one who adds arms and legs to smileys and call them drawings (so, the one behind Holiday, Selene, Kryl's first pose, possibly Melissa as well) would shine in the fan art section. They don't operate at a professional level of quality, but they're not quite at the level of amateurism of the fan artists we've seen (on this forum) either. As I mentioned earlier, though, there are definitely dozens of much better amateur artists on DeviantArt and other sites.

[Falco82]

6 ore fa, Bomba ha scritto:

Ok... I expected Falco82, DvDivXXX and Zorba the Geek to be more harsh... so I will say it.

What the hell is this monstrosity under the name of Magician Crystal ?! How dare you use Crystal's name here!

Where did you get her face? It certainly not from this body. If you can even call this thing a body! There was enough said about how wrong her boobs are. And legs. But what about the fact, that she has ...oh wait, let me just put her two first poses side by side.

Here, so what about the fact, that she has no freaking shoulders?! No clavicle or collarbone. Her arms and boobs just go straight to the neck. Oh, and her arms are getting smaller. It is an abomination!

As far as I'm concerned, Crystal is so bad, if not worse, than the others. This is because not only does she have serious errors like the other 3 but she is also strongly expressionless and the errors have been made on 3 pictures that are, not only easy, but practically identical to each other.

Look, for example, at F&F: the drawner made several mistakes and the last pose was simple and poorly done so it's not forgivable, but the others are very particular poses so the good will to do a good job was there, in this case instead the work is made hastily and with little inventiveness.

There is not much to say about the quality: it's terrible, the legs, the body and even the hair change size in each image. 😓

Her luck is that the last image is the best therefore, while for the others the investment leads to a worsening, for her it's the opposite but 3 poses out of 4 are garbage, she is widely overrated...

[Bomba]

4 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

In terms of art quality alone, as I said, it's bad, certainly a worse job than Mordana or Bimbette, here, but the other three are so terrible that this one seems okay in comparison.

Oh, ok. You focused more on the ones that was worse. I'm okay with this.

1 hour ago, Falco82 said:

As far as I'm concerned, Crystal is so bad, if not worse, than the others. This is because not only does she have serious errors like the other 3 but she is also strongly expressionless and the errors have been made on 3 pictures that are, not only easy, but practically identical to each other.

Look, for example, at F&F: the drawner made several mistakes and the last pose was simple and poorly done so it's not forgivable, but the others are very particular poses so the good will to do a good job was there, in this case instead the work is made hastily and with little inventiveness.

There is not much to say about the quality: it's terrible, the legs, the body and even the hair change size in each image. 😓

Her luck is that the last image is the best therefore, while for the others the investment leads to a worsening, for her it's the opposite but 3 poses out of 4 are garbage, she is widely overrated...

Yes! Thank you!

But I see the problem here. The art became so bad that there's so much to say, that you don't know where to start and in the end you get tired from listing just few things that first came to mind.

And the main problem is that we don't have any responses. Did the developers even acknowledge the fact the art quality has dropped? And will there be any actions to improve the situation? So far the answer is no.

[linkdream]

 Fanny and Fione are unrecognizable. If the new artist can't be faithful to the original material, stay the fuck out of the existing girls, seriously.

Other than that yeah, except Mordona and Bimbette, the other girls in this event are abominations.

BTW do someone know who did the Magical Girls event last year? That was by far the best event of the year. I wish they come back for more events.

I know it's rude to say this but for the love of god, please find another artist, what they did in the last events are awful. I'm sorry >_<

Edited January 7, 2020 by linkdream

[Dr. Lust]

OK....OK.... Some artwork is not as good as other artwork,  But let's not bash the artists.  Overall the artwork is good.  Maybe I'm being too "gentile" but they all draw and create better then about 95% of us.  So, good job to all artists.

Instead of bashing artists, I'd just say overall, the crew of artists this site has is good.  So instead of calling attention to the downside I'd rather celebrate the upside and the gorgeousness of this work.

Oh please, more curvy girls for us f2p players, PLEASE PLEASE. :)

[jelom]

Dr. Lust, PLEASE, don't spoil the images ot the girls in the forum, or at least put it into spoiler tags: [spoiler ] images and text [/spoiler ]