Moderator Slynia Posted June 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2020 DAMN IT! I've been sitting here now for a while trying to figure out who Hedonia is based/inspired by. I recognize her so much it's killing me! Stubborn as I am I've refused to read comments and the wiki just cause I wanna figure it out myself and not be spoiled (yet at least). Note to self: Hang in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkdream Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Those eyes again? WTF Please Kinkoid, explain yourself. What's going on here? Edited June 1, 2020 by linkdream 9 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooreslife Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Except for Shade, who not only looks amazing, but also better than many older girls, the artstyle seems to be suffering here. What's up with that? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted June 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Yeah... Just like my fellow "armchair art critics" as Zorba once called us, I'm a bit too jaded and by now and not willing to point out the same glaringly obvious issues with the current art direction and art team in general, and a couple of artists in particular. But, oh well. Here I goooo agaaaain. 🎸 Well, at least there's more consistency compared to the previous one where we basically had a different artist for each girl. That's good. Unfortunately, while the lows aren't as low, the highs are also much lower... The Holiday guy (or should we just call him Dead Eyes from now on?) obviously handled poor Kelina, Hari and Nuladva, and they're poorly done, also obviously. Nowhere near as repulsively bad as some of his worst, though, thankfully (but even his best is barely passable, that's the problem: he's not a good enough artist for this freaking game; for the millionth time...). I've seen Polana's later poses now, and OMG! Even Holiday herself is arguably "better" than this monstrosity I have to see every time I'm fighting Bremen Tier 2. Brrrr. Whoever warned me against judging the girls just by their initial pose was right. These days, it's like judging a book by its cover. This time I actually checked the spoilers, though, as there's nothing to spoil: it's mediocre from start to finish. No surprises to be had, good or bad. The best artist(s) obviously handled Shade and possibly Hedonia (out of those who worked on this release, that is, you have at least one artist better than them all, but he seems to be focused on PoA girls now). Shade has a cool design and the art itself is really good and wholesome, no complaints there. The poses themselves and the "story" they're supposed to evoke that seems very flat and uninspired (maybe the affection scenes will help). Hedonia has a great design and solid art for the most part (I also like the style quite a bit) but not as good as Shade's. The poses are a bit more interesting and varied, although we've had much better. Nika has a solid design, even though I'm not into it at all (mixing food and sex, but to each their own, of course), but the art seems less polished compared to Shade (possibly a deadline issue?). The poses are varied and equally boring to me, and the final one seems to be the less detailed (possibly a deadline issue?). Leedit and Zoe, though done by pretty different artists, have similar qualities and problems. Awesome designs, fairly interesting and varied sequence of poses, but... below average art quality (but not unredeemable, these guys do have chops). I'll explain further because they deserve it at least this once. The guy who handled Leedit is a good penciler. I strongly suspect, due to a number of similarities and idiosyncrasies, that it's the same artist who previously did Avia, and if that's the case, then he's either improved a lot pretty quick, or he had to rush for Avia, which is unfortunate. This stuff is much better. Having said that, he needs an inker/embellisher so so bad! It's especially clear now that there are other artists in the team who either do ink jobs themselves, or are teamed up with a proper inker again (all the art in this very event has this, actually, except for Leedit and the three girls done by Dead Eyes, unless you count tracing a thin line over your thin pencil contour, with no life, no shading, no curves, and not even any line width variation as "inking", which I bet he does). I know, technically, the Leedit drawings are "inked", they're not a point-blank pencil sketch (see Aphrodite) but that "ink job" is as useless as Dead Eyes'. Oh, also: NAILS ARE A THING! And no, not just on one big toe every now and then. Either draw all of the twenty nails that are visible in your piece, or don't draw any at all (but if you choose the latter, then please apply for a more cartoon-oriented company, and move there?). The guy who handled Zoe... Has a very familiar style. I even suspect it's an artist who has done much much better work for this very game already. There are great bits and pieces here and there, the inks are great, but... he either rushed like hell (possibly a deadline issue?) or he needs to brush up on his basic anatomy ASAP (possibly a deadline issue?). And the.. background art is nice. On another note: the THEME. The theme had potential (I expected something a bit different though). I wouldn't mind a bit more variety and maturity in the sex scenes and the interactions the hero has with girls in general. I know I'm only at two thirds of the main story, but aside from what happened in Magic Forest (and, as far as I can tell, stayed in Magic Forest), he almost never experimented much with the girls along the way, especially not with any kinks that would give them the lead or challenge his insecure alpha male cliché fantasy (well, unless you count Justine but her thing isn't really sexual, let alone sexy; she's just a flat-out psychopath). Looks like a missed opportunity to me, from what I can tell so far. When I read the theme, I expected the girls to be tougher and go a bit rough with the hero. Doesn't look like it at all. Oh well. Edited June 1, 2020 by DvDivXXX minor edits 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Is it known what the chance is (or about what) for an girl from the event pachinko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkdream Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said: The Holiday guy (or should we just call him Dead Eyes from now on?) Dead eyes, empty look, derp eyes, stickers eyes. They all work. Nice post as always. I don't have anything to add 👍 Edited June 1, 2020 by linkdream 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darsca Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, pulli23 said: Is it known what the chance is (or about what) for an girl from the event pachinko? 22.5% chance for a girl per spin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Oh that's not what I would call a "high chance" but thanks for telling :). (Means spending money there is probably worse than in a poa or legendary days refreshing of power). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.I.T.E triumvirat Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 It's myxomatosis 🤔 12 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkdream Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Poor Hari... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomba Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Oh, wow, what can I say, "Corrupted Girls" is a very fitting name for this event. If you can't improve the art, make a theme, where it works! So, did the girls got sucked into some universe of madness, where all their features got twisted, distorted and corrupted? Or maybe the girls got kidnapped and their forms got recreated by some broken androids and that's why their forms look so corrupted? Or maybe this's an attempt from the developers to show that hypnosis causes the crush of not only the soul, but also the body in a very subtle way? Or maybe developers did their research on their playerbase and decided that girls broken by hypnosis is a good theme for this game, even though it goes against core principles of this world. And after that they drawn those girls in this way not as a caricature, but as an actual art and they consider this a good art. And if that's the case, I'm not sure what I dislike the most - the bad art or the target audience. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooreslife Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 It's funny how I don't wanna get nasty with Hari, I rather feel like giving her a cup of tea and asking her if she's alright. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eman Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Well, I'm going to bet that that Hedonia with that pendulum on her hand has something to do with the corruption. As for the girls, they're not great, but they're not that bad either. And we still have to see if their looks are because of the corruption theme and then get better with their other poses once they're cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Čamuga Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, DvDivXXX said: (editing this just so I dont bloat the entire section, will respond only to bits and pieces of your post since I mostly agree) This, this event really takes the cake honestly. The Dead Eyes guy got a theme where he'd fit, a theme for mindbreak and hypnosis and such level of things, which as a theme I don't dislike, I just gotta be in a certain mood to prefer/like some mindbreak and more hardcore kinks/fetishes. This is just personal taste for the theme, I'm just prefacing the post with I'm not hating on the theme, but I'm not too fond of it either. It's possible that this type of a theme shouldn't even be considered for this game due to it's overall feel and established rules thus far, but that's neither here or there. Now let's take this from the top- art is just awful. I can't believe that they'd hire artists this incompetent, and I'm now gearing more towards deadline issues, but it's probably a mix of both. Some artists I truly think don't fit in here at all, (Hello Dead Eyes!), and some probably just need more time to actually finish their art so they'd reach the standard this game used to have (probably that Aphrodite guy, that was 100% an unfinished sketch), and some like the guy that drew Shade is either the original artist or someone really good at sticking to the original style, and please please please KK more of that guy! Then we got the guy that did Leedit in this event, and from her initial pose she looks fine-ish from the first pose, but if you've seen the spoilers you know that that doesn't hold even remotely true in later stages. How is it that the more you upgrade a girl the worse she gets in poses, I don't understand lmao. He seems to be the guy that drew Avia, and he does need some work on lines and inking 100%, less of that shitty glare would do wonders for his work. I agree with your take on the guy who drew Zoe but I think that's the guy that did Lola in the last PoA. Holy shit man that guy is as bad as Dead Eyes. And since you mentioned the guy that did Polana, I also think thats the same guy, and dear lord that one is awful at the last pose, While Dead Eyes draws flat bodies and dead faces/eyes, the Polana guy draws plastic pressed girls that are just as lifeless as Dead Eyes' girls, except in a different extreme. I don't think that the guy who drew Hedonia is the same guy that drew Shade, I just don't see it personall. This is the guy that looks to me like he has problems with perspective and angles, like the guy who drew Melody- Edwardas Tier 3 girl. That one also needs a hell of a lot of work to improve, but if he doesn't then I think he's just 1 level slightly above Dead Eyes, because if you look at his work for more than 10 seconds you see heads that are turned by 180+ degrees and other anatomical atrocities... I think this is a disaster of an event and it really kills the enjoyment and the appeal I've found in the game previous to this. I'm basically sticking around for some revival events to get girls I missed out on, and due to sunken costs, since I've gotten this far in the game... Dear Kinkoid, Honestly just stop with this- for whatever reason you can no longer dish out the excellent art quality we're all used to, and all the replacements but one for the original artist that you've found are all extremely subpar to say the least. Just take a break, or at least lower the amount and frequency of girls, it's clear that it's no longer possible to put out quality girls at a pace you've had before. Right now it's been over 6 months of more and more downs than ups, the game is losing it's appeal and it's unique style that it had, and I've even seen that you've been working on re-drawing the starting areas to fit the new style, so it's clear that you care about the style, art and appeal of the game, but I believe that this care is being heavily mismanaged and that it's suffering due to that. I'm sure that most of us that have been complaining about the artwork (and probably a lot of players that have been sticking here for a while now) would much rather get less girls at the same/similar quality that we used to have, than see girls being shat out by the dozen each month where their art is absolutely awful. I have no idea of your organization or situation behind the scenes, so I'm not gonna say how "this is an easy fix" or offer a proper "obvious solution" that you just haven't seen thus far, instead, I'm making this plea to ask for some clarification as to what exactly is going on and how long do you plan/think that this will go on for. I would rather not see Lola or Kelina or any other older girl that we've all liked (in style at least) be absolutely butchered by some new artist that clearly isn't up to par. And this is in no way hate thrown at the artists, I'm sure they can/will improve eventually, but I think this has gone on for far too long and I don't think this is the place where they should practice and improve. I'm asking you to reconsider what you're doing with the game, and make some changes with how you've been treating these newer events, because I think this has gone for long enough for you and everyone else to see, that if this keeps going even more, the Epic Pachinko gets inflated with trash, the revival events/Orgy days get inflated with trash, and it will phase out the quality that you've provided that we know and love and have gotten invested into this game for. I know that I wouldn't be typing this if I didn't give a shit about the game, and I hope you know that too. Edited June 2, 2020 by Čamuga Phrasing 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba the Geek Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 We were told in the intro for this event that the x4 Event Pchinko orbs will be waiting for us when we start it. This presupposes that we were successful in beating villains 100 times in the PoA in order to claim them. In two accounts I didn't make it that far as I was already too low in kobans to do enough refills before the end date. Thanks to this effort, however, I did manage to get Avia in three accounts. Anyway, the PoA so depleted my koban count I wasn't able to even start this event's villain battles in 4 accounts until 4 hours later. I didn't even have time to catch my breath when this event started right on the heals of the PoA. I noticed that, in contrast to previous recent classic events, all villain girls are rare. This doesn't bother me too much as they are a lot easier to upgrade to max than the legendaries and they pay just as much in my harem. I haven't voted yet, but cute little Zoe appeals to me most. However, she is drawn with her head disproportionately small. This means she's taller than her profile should indicate. She's still cute though. Defiled? Yes, maybe. She does seem to like the kind of sex that is the very definition of being defiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooreslife Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 hace 3 minutos, Zorba the Geek dijo: We were told in the intro for this event that the x4 Event Pchinko orbs will be waiting for us when we start it. This presupposes that we were successful in beating villains 100 times in the PoA in order to claim them. In two accounts I didn't make it that far as I was already too low in kobans to do enough refills before the end date. Thanks to this effort, however, I did manage to get Avia in three accounts. Anyway, the PoA so depleted my koban count I wasn't able to even start this event's villain battles in 4 accounts until 4 hours later. I didn't even have time to catch my breath when this event started right on the heals of the PoA. I noticed that, in contrast to previous recent classic events, all villain girls are rare. This doesn't bother me too much as they are a lot easier to upgrade to max than the legendaries and they pay just as much in my harem. I haven't voted yet, but cute little Zoe appeals to me most. However, she is drawn with her head disproportionately small. This means she's taller than her profile should indicate. She's still cute though. Defiled? Yes, maybe. She does seem to like the kind of sex that is the very definition of being defiled. Hey buddy, just curious, is there any particular reason for having that many accounts, or is it for the joy of playing with different classes and haremettes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted June 2, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said: I noticed that, in contrast to previous recent classic events, all villain girls are rare. This doesn't bother me too much as they are a lot easier to upgrade to max than the legendaries and they pay just as much in my harem. You must need a new pair of glasses, my friend. Rare is green (like the girl we get for completing all the daily missions). Epic is orange, like every other girl in this event, except for one of the pachinko exclusives who is a legendary (and that is purple). Same old, same old. No contrast for you to notice. ^^ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba the Geek Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said: You must need a new pair of glasses, my friend. Rare is green (like the girl we get for completing all the daily missions). Epic is orange, like every other girl in this event, except for one of the pachinko exclusives who is a legendary (and that is purple). Same old, same old. No contrast for you to notice. ^^ You're right! I do, eh. I was focusing on the green colour coding of their names and misread it. Sorry. It's as normal after all. I wanted to make a suggestion to players re. the x4 EvP orbs. Don't use them until the end to minimise any chance of villain girls dropping. Also, remember that EP orbs are also able to drop event pachinko girls - another reason to delay the use of EvP orbs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHarry Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Their faces... Who are these girls? If you can't draw then to resemble the original anymore, make new ones? 🤷🏻♂️ 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pornomancer Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I'm a degenerate who loves him some hypnosis, so I hope the scenes are more interesting than the designs. Not really sure why whoever's corrupting the girls decided that the 70s was the peak of fashion, but the point of the game is to get their clothes off anyway so it's no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casket Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hari is a shame. Hedonia and Shade look great from their initial poses, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantrix Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hands down Hedonia is the best girl in this event and more over she's a boss girl! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3132 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Half of these are indeed weird ass creatures (is the shitty artist kinkoid's nephew or something?). Well drawn half is being dragged down by the terrible premise of this fucked up event. Get this shit out of here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkdream Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Weirdly enough, Kelina looks like the usual Kelina we know and love in today's mission except it's supposed to be Nika! Edited June 2, 2020 by linkdream 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony V Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I just realized. The Tower of Fame design is based on Psychic Beacon from Command & Conquer : Red Alert 2 right? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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