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13 hours ago, Guest Grifs said:

I really hope there will be enough time to get the second guy in the event. 

I just go in expecting I'll have to use refills to top off the 2nd girl. So far I'm on track to get Alex before the end of event but that's only because I got lucky and managed to get a 100shard drop on Carine, otherwise it would be refills indeed.

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i dont like the attraction i thought it was going to be a 2nd chance to earn a girl not just attraction which is now more harder to get a girl im lucky if i get 1 attraction with in 20 turns 

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On 3/4/2019 at 8:34 AM, Cantrix said:

Then farewell, you won't be missed!

Complaining for the sake of complaining, not providing any details about your experience does not make you sound credible.

If you didn't pay any money and didn't lose them without getting some value for them, why are you so upset in the first place?

It's not like you took your hard earned money and throw them away. You used FREE resources...

As a free player, you can't expect to get all new girls without a sweat.

The title of this forum specifically says it's for people to vent about the game. It does NOT say that venting has to come with suggestions to fix a game that I didn't design. I'm not a programmer, mathematician, or developer, so I don't know what's possible in this world; I'm merely presenting a perceived obstacle to the developers for consideration.  Are they going to pay me for good ideas on how to fix their game? No. Do I have such suggestions? Also no. I've got other things on my mind, like a $13,000+ hospital bill (the main reason I can't pay for perks, but not the only one). By the way, I consider my time to be valuable and not a free resource. If they're going to release this as a free game, then there should be a way to keep it that way while still allowing some level of success.

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Okay actually my first time in this forum... For the attraction system as it is right now its a bit stupid and not fun at all.

At the recent epic days i spend time doing 280 fights to get a girl and all i got was 80\100 attraction. In the end i spend over 500 kobans to get... nothing...

But i dont just wanna criticize without suggesting some improvements to make it fun and fair again.

1.First of all i think it would be better to repeat short events like the epic days. for example you´ve got the epic event going on for 5 days after those there is the christmas or any other longer event comming. after this event just repeat the epic days event with the same girls from the epic days event befor the Christmas event. You would not have to change the drop rate  for attraction because everybody will have a second chance to get the girl he want. The player would only need to have 50 attraction on each event to get his girl which in my opinion is fair.

2.The second improvement i suggest is a attraction drop rate for all girls in a players harem whose attraction is between 30 and 99 even when there is no event. One of the biggest problems of the attraction system is that the girls you don´t get in the events are locked till the next time they are in a event. At the moment this is horrible because if you´re not lucky then you have to wait years to get a girl where youre attraction is already at 51 for example. Like i suggested first the player should actually be able to get his girl if the event repeats but what if he got his girl in the event and got another one to attractin 51? Repeating a event more than 2 times in a row would be pretty boring for the players. So now for the system itself. For example if the player has a girl with a attraction between 30 and 99 in his harem but her event is over then normaly she would be locked for years but if there is a chance to get a attraction drop for her or any other girls with attraction between30 and 99 in his harem just when he is fighting on any Location in the adventure that would be a pretty good feature. (Its actually between 30 and 99 so that the players have to do something to get their Girl, not just doing one fight on the event to get 1or 5 attraction and then getting all the girls when the event is over just by getting random attraction Drops by fighting in any location in the Adventure.)

So i hope some devs. will read this because this system needs improvement asap to finally be fair and fun again.

Also sorry if the text sometimes sounds weird im german so english is not the language im best at...

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Yes I do not like it. I’ve spent all 5 days every first I got plus 900 koban and I only am at 45 out of hundred to win one girl. How heck can u win girls when takes all that have in time allowed and spent 900 koban for fist 🤛 and still only at 45/100 for first girl. No matter how many times reload I still can’t upgrade girls with books or panty necklaces but yet have no problem with getting roots or upgrades for myself where I have spend kobans and money isn’t that funny as long spend what make can upgrade myself but prizes I win or books panty I try go get rebooted told server error lol been 3 1/2 months since last time able upgrade any girl probably have 600 books and necklaces panties stuff I could give I won but can’t even click on to give get rebooted server error if do twice kicked out game have reboot so paid for 80 to 100 fist plus every fist for 5 days given not even half way to win a girl so no I don’t like new system at all sry but way feel

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1 hour ago, Axel_2 said:

Okay actually my first time in this forum... For the attraction system as it is right now its a bit stupid and not fun at all.

Yeah, a lot of players made an account just so they could post about the Attraction System. Hope the devs would implement some changes soon that would make it better. It's rougher for some players. Yeah I know it has its good sides, which I as a koban user know well.

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I got Trinket but spent all 5 days and a truckload of refills. I'm not even attempting to fight for the others to avoid disappointment, as there is no time. The girls that a player have attraction points for should be available for him/her in the epic pachinko.

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1 hour ago, Vulture said:

I got Trinket but spent all 5 days and a truckload of refills. I'm not even attempting to fight for the others to avoid disappointment, as there is no time. The girls that a player have attraction points for should be available for him/her in the epic pachinko.

Uh...all of these girls are always available in the epic pachinko. Epic Days is made up of pachinko permanent girls.

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8 minutes ago, GeorgeMTO said:

Uh...all of these girls are always available in the epic pachinko. Epic Days is made up of pachinko permanent girls.

I meant in general. Because where someone can see 'progress' in the game by having shards instead of girls I can't. There is no progress in the game whatsoever for the player except the little icon in the Harem screen having the star symbol with the number of shards owned. They give no money, no harem level, nothing, where is the progress? Oh but you'll have a easier time getting them the next time... IN A YEAR! Lol

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Just now, Vulture said:

I meant in general. Because where someone can see 'progress' in the game by having shards instead of girls I can't. There is no progress in the game whatsoever for the player except the little icon in the Harem screen having the star symbol with the number of shards owned. They give no money, no harem level, nothing, where is the progress? Oh but you'll have a easier time getting them the next time... IN A YEAR! Lol

The rest of the post was related to this specific event, and there was nothing separating it. It seemed like a complaint more specific to this one, because the other events [except legendary days] tend to have good odds of giving you both boss girls for free, assuming you make use of all your combativity.

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3 minutes ago, GeorgeMTO said:

The rest of the post was related to this specific event, and there was nothing separating it. It seemed like a complaint more specific to this one, because the other events [except legendary days] tend to have good odds of giving you both boss girls for free, assuming you make use of all your combativity.

Maybe I worded it badly, English is not my first language. But this new system definitely is yielding less girls and money for same combativity, at least for me, before I always got all event girls and now even with refills I missed several event girls.  

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1 hour ago, GeorgeMTO said:

The rest of the post was related to this specific event, and there was nothing separating it. It seemed like a complaint more specific to this one, because the other events [except legendary days] tend to have good odds of giving you both boss girls for free, assuming you make use of all your combativity.

Whatever the odds are right now, players are comparing their experiences from attraction system now vs the old system in the past. I myself am with Vulture because for me, the new system is worse in giving me both girls for free. I alway use refills to top up the 2nd girl and that's fighting all the way til end of the event. (edit: forgot 1 event where I managed to get a 100shard drop - so I guess not "always") Previously I never even reach the end before getting both.

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2 hours ago, sirbig said:

I just spent 16k kobans for 5 out of 6 girls (already had 1 of them before the event). 

And the last epic event, I spent 9k or so for all 6. This attraction system is trash...

I think it's all part of the plan - make more players spend more kobans under the appearance of helping some people who can't stop gambling.

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I seem to be the only one here who had terrible experiences with epic days events. I only ever got 1 girl for free. Worst scenario; all free + ~6500 kobans worth of refills for just one girl. This actually was one of the better ones so far for me with 2100 kobans for a girl. I actually never go for all of them, because of how much kobans it would take. Epic days will always be a struggle between getting them all and saving kobans for future events.

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50 minutes ago, Chthugha said:

I only ever got 1 girl for free. Worst scenario; all free + ~6500 kobans worth of refills for just one girl. 

Er I didn't get my girls for free. I make a budget where I spend this X amount of kobans and free points and spread it around the target girls. If I don't get any, I stop, but I was fairly lucky always managing to get at least 1 girl. If I get a girl, I spend an additional same amount of kobans. If I get another, I repeat. If not, I stop. But these days, I just keep going until I get completion since having a partial girl in my harem is rather irritating. So it's either I don't go for a girl or go for it til the end. It really sucks when they were being cheap and the boss is Dark Lord. Damn him. I regret my decision to go after Kyoto a bit.

On the old system, I managed to hoard a lot of kobans. I was planning on using em for EP when I got all the world girls but the new system came in and they took out the world girls in EP. On the new system it's actually cheaper to go for the girls in Epic day events and it's guaranteed so I'm doing those instead. I'm using a lot more kobans these days then ever before. So yes while it has it's bad points, it also has some good ones, which I'm pretty much taking advantage of and spending many kobans along the way.

 

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On 3/7/2019 at 5:11 AM, Huangover said:

Getting back on point, I hate the new shard system. I don't care what mathematical or casino model it is based on, from my experience it is worse than the old model. I think I will be 95 years old before any girl from Karole drops at the rate I am experiencing.

So how's the girl hunt with Karole coming along? It took me about 2650+ fights to get all 3 and I think that was with "good" luck. You get like 48 combativity points a day. So say 2650/48= 56 days (rounded up to the next whole number). With the new system these days, you'll be using pretty much every day of an event (unless you spend a lot of kobans). By removing event days out of a calendar month, let's say you get 5 free days a month to fight Karole. So 56/5 = 12 months (rounded up to next whole month). So basically you'll need a year to get all 3 girls off Karole, give or take a few months depending on your luck.

Oh yeah, it took me like 2250+ fights to get the first girl so that would be about 10 months, barring 100shard drops.

Disclaimer - this is just a rough estimate. Time to get girls affected by many factors including how many free days you actually get to fight Karole.

To fix it, I'd say increase the amount of shards you get at a time, 1-3 shards is simply too low or at least increase it when the next zone comes out. As for the 1st girl issue, well I've always thought that trying to seduce 3 girls at once is not every effective yeah? So all shards should go to one girl at a time. So perhaps, the omega girl first of Karole, followed by beta then alpha. Makes sense the alpha would be harder to pry out of Karole yeah? Would work for pretty much any boss.

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I thought the drop rate for regular girls was off.  Went through the last 70 levels on Karole to get the last girl (Rin) after the switch.

I also don't seem to be having any luck on the short event girls, as it seems I cannot acquire one without spending approximately 2K kobans per girl per event.  But I still got them without needing to put in real world currency.  This last Epic event on the other hand, totally sucked.  Went through all my saved kobans to get one girl and a second up to 92.  I'd almost rather not know how close I was before the event finished, especially now as Trinket sits there at the bottom of my Harem list, mocking me... forever mocking me.  Does anyone know if I get her on an Epic Pachinko spin do those 92 shards convert to affection gifts, like she had rolled a 100?

Anyway, better luck next time.  And I just have to stop scolling down to the bottom of the list.

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8 minutes ago, Highwayman said:

especially now as Trinket sits there at the bottom of my Harem list, mocking me... forever mocking me.

Well the devs would say that's your progress saved right there. Now you only need 8 shards to complete Trinket ... somewhere, sometime next year perhaps. As someone had said before, you have all the time in the world. Sucks, right?

13 minutes ago, Highwayman said:

Does anyone know if I get her on an Epic Pachinko spin do those 92 shards convert to affection gifts, like she had rolled a 100?

Logically it should as EP gives you 100 shards, which gives you an additional 92 shards thus 92 epic flowers. But what's the chances of you getting her though? I have a total of 42 girls in EP right now if you include the event girls. So let's just say 1 in 40 chance - not very good odds I'd say.

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