pantheon Pantheon walls

[Zteev]

Like my club mate, EpicBacon, I also broke through a wall just now went through 1700. Used a headband of course, took 18 attacks, but moving onward & upward.

Time to figure out when to exactly use all the combativity that will come my way with the Pantheon fights I have left.

 

[Ravi-Sama]

Congrats to both of you!  The extra 270 CP will definitely help in the seasonal event, and also if you save it for the MDR, PoA, or MD.  That's 270 extra skulls, before the next wall.

While the victories are fresh in your minds, can you recall your level cap, Atk, total power, # of cord boosters, 6 mono gear, win %, etc?  I know both used headbands.  It'll help other players later, as a reference.  I assume player level is 500, 3 cords, and both on HH.com, w/ the current blessings of +30% Red Hair, & +40% Scorpio.  Here's my records as an example.

Wall: 1600 (6/3/2022)
Blessings: Legendary 35% & Nose Dive 30%
Level Cap: 700
Player Level: 442
Atk: 167k
TP:  187.3k
Boosters: 3 cords + headband
Gear: 4 mono
Win Chance: 7.51%
Tries: 3

Wall: 1700 (8/18/2022)
Blessings: Bridge 35% & Brown Eyes 30%
Level Cap: 750
Player Level: 461
Atk: 179k
TP:  187.3k
Boosters: 3 cords + headband
Gear: 6 mono
Win Chance: 4.6%
Tries: 7

@EpicBacon
Wall: 1600
Level Cap: 750
Player Level: 500
Atk: 138k (173k headband)
TP:  189.981.75
Boosters: 3 cords + headband
Gear: 4 mono 2.44% with 4, dropped to 0.69 with 5 and 1.89? with 6 (before headband)
Win Chance: 28.56%
Tries: 1

@Zteev
Wall: 1700
Level Cap: 750, but not all girls at 750
Player Level: 500
Atk: 133k (probably 166k w/ the headband)
TP:  174.7k
Boosters: 2 Cordyceps + 1 Ginseng +  headband
Gear: 5 mono
Win Chance: about 4%
Tries: 18

Edited October 22, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[Zteev]

50 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said:

Congrats to both of you!  The extra 270 CP will definitely help in the seasonal event, and also if you save it for the MDR, PoA, or MD.  That's 270 extra skulls, before the next wall.

While the victories are fresh in your minds, can you recall your level cap, Atk, total power, # of cord boosters, 6 mono gear, win %, etc?  I know both used headbands.  It'll help other players later, as a reference.  I assume player level is 500, 3 cords, and both on HH.com, w/ the current blessings of +30% Red Hair, & +40% Scorpio.  Here's my records as an example.

@Zteev
Wall: 1700
Level Cap: 750, but not all girls at 750
Player Level: 500
Atk: 133k
TP:  174.7k
Boosters: 2 Cordyceps + 1 Ginseng +  headband
Gear: 5 mono
Win Chance: about 4%
Tries: 18

I filled in above. I used a team for Pantheon that hasn't changed set up, so those details are good except that Win% which is roughly accurate. 5 mono was better than 6, and 4 was almost identical to 5, but maybe a few hundereths of a percent worse.

[OmerB]

Wall: 1200 (19/10/2022)
Blessings: Scorpio 40% & Red Hair 30%
Level Cap: 700
Player Level: 441
Atk: ~120k
TP:  ~156k
Boosters: 1 Jinseng, 1 Chlorella, 1 Jujubee + headband
Gear: 4 mono
Win Chance: 25%
Tries: 1

Girls: 65 Dominatrix, 63 Sensual, 64 Exhibitionists, 54 Physical, 61 Submissive, 53 Voyeur, 42 Eccentric, 53 Playful

Edition: It is with slightly different items and boosters, but you can get the general power level needed to pass this level.

Edited October 20, 2022 by OmerB

[Madman65432]

Yes cracked 1400 with 4 700er girls (Thanks to Bunny and the blessings). 1 jujubee, 2 Cordycreps and headband. ~7% chance, go in at 10th run (Funfact: either you loose with ~ 1000 hp at the enemy or with far about 300000...)

[EpicBacon]

On 10/20/2022 at 8:01 AM, Ravi-Sama said:

@EpicBacon
Wall: 1600
Level Cap: ?
Player Level: 500
Atk: ?
TP:  ?
Boosters: ? cords + headband
Gear: ? mono
Win Chance: 28.56%
Tries: 1
 

Sorry about that, I haven't been able to get on until right now,
I'll add what I can; but I have different boosters on right now unfortunelty. 

Wall: 1600
Level Cap: 750
Player Level: 500
Atk: 138k (173k headband)
TP:  189.981.75
Boosters: 3 cords + headband
Gear: 4 mono 2.44% with 4, dropped to 0.69 with 5 and 1.89? with 6 (before headband)
Win Chance: 28.56%
Tries: 1

Pictures showing attack;
1st pic is showing att in leagues screen
2nd pic shows att in pantheon screen (with headband)

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by EpicBacon

[EpicBacon]

On 10/20/2022 at 8:01 AM, Ravi-Sama said:

While the victories are fresh in your minds, can you recall your level cap, Atk, total power, # of cord boosters, 6 mono gear, win %, etc?  

Updated attack number, pictures included

Edited October 22, 2022 by EpicBacon

[Mighty Thor]

I'm still waiting at temple 1500 until I'm strong enough...

Meanwhile I looked through my old posts and screenshots and other data of my previous pantheon walls and made this table with what I found:

[Ravi-Sama]

3 hours ago, Mighty Thor said:

...previous pantheon walls... made this table...

Nice template and data!  I filled in my own Pantheon History.  I'm sure they'll give some player, stuck at a wall, a hint of what's necessary to beat it.

Edited October 22, 2022 by Ravi-Sama
Fixed a level cap error. Added element colors, booster info, and level data.

[Methos2]

27 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said:

Off-Topic: Methos2, you had a ~188.4k TP team last I checked.  I searched for you on the Pantheon leaderboard.  I think you could break the temple 1700 wall, w/ the current blessings, if you used 3 cords, a headband, & 6 mono gear, b/c you had 2 Doms ⚫ and 2 Sensuals 🔵 in that team.  I had a similar TP when I beat it (187.3k TP), w/ a 4.6% win chance.  It took 7 tries.

I'm in no hurry with Pantheon. No one has reached 2000th floor yet. I'd just be staring at the 2000th wall with everyone else for who knows how long. I'm saving worships and waiting for the right opportunity so I can climb over multiple walls with a headband and use the CP for an event like MD. Using headband now would mess up PoA tasks. Next week blessing will be better for me if I can get enough gems to awaken and I can use the CP for MD if it falls on latter part of the week. If not, I'll continue on the scenic route through Pantheon.

[Ravi-Sama]

1 minute ago, Methos2 said:

I'm in no hurry with Pantheon. No one has reached 2000th floor yet. I'd just be staring at the 2000th wall with everyone else for who knows how long. I'm saving worships and waiting for the right opportunity so I can climb over multiple walls with a headband and use the CP for an event like MD. Using headband now would mess up PoA tasks. Next week blessing will be better for me if I can get enough gems to awaken and I can use the CP for MD if it falls on latter part of the week. If not, I'll continue on the scenic route through Pantheon.

Nice.  I was thinking about MD.  If next week makes more sense, that's cool.  You want to pass 200 floors w/ 1 headband.  That's pretty ambitious.  You'd gain 540 CP.  I passed 200 floors in a week before, but it took me 2 headbands, due to losses.  I just have 40 temple worship saved atm, b/c I use it occasionally for daily goals.  I could have up to a 201.7k TP team next week, b/c I have the top 7 girls, but I'm missing the gems and GXP, so I'll have 174k-182k TP instead.  I should save resources for another week w/ similar potential (Taurus 40% & Jack Hammer 20%), so I could actually max the girls, then try to break the 1800th wall.

[OmerB]

On 10/20/2022 at 1:32 PM, OmerB said:

Wall: 1200 (19/10/2022)
Blessings: Scorpio 40% & Red Hair 30%
Level Cap: 700
Player Level: 441
Atk: ~120k
TP:  ~156k
Boosters: 1 Jinseng, 1 Chlorella, 1 Jujubee + headband
Gear: 4 mono
Win Chance: 25%
Tries: 1

Girls: 65 Dominatrix, 63 Sensual, 64 Exhibitionists, 54 Physical, 61 Submissive, 53 Voyeur, 42 Eccentric, 53 Playful

Edition: It is with slightly different items and boosters, but you can get the general power level needed to pass this level.

And... I'm stuck at level 1300 😞

It will be a long wait. With about the same stats as above, I'm having 0% of winning.

[Julius Fox]

Decided to give it a go since I've been sitting at wall 1200 for a couple months and these are the best blessings I've had in quite a while. Goal was to beat it without having to use a headband.

Here was my team with no boosters:

And then adding 3 cordyceps:

I tried one fight but didn't get very far, so I decided to mix in some mono equipment. This is with 3 mono:

My first fight I got 3 crits and was very close. The next several fights I got creamed and was starting to wonder if I should just go ahead and equip a headband to keep from wasting all my stored CP, but on my 5th try I was victorious!

I'm currently player level 421. I recently unlocked girl level 700 so Noemy, Imogen and Bridgette are all level 700 (although Noemy is at 5 stars not 6) while LXIX is level 667 and the rest are 650.

I felt a little bad about wasting 3 cordyceps while I'm still in D2 since I'm trying to save them all for when I promote to D3, but I have a pretty big stash so it seemed worth it. I'll probably wait until I'm in D3 to attempt wall 1300 though.

[Ravi-Sama]

1 hour ago, Julius Fox said:

wall 1200... without... headband.
adding 3 cordyceps
3 mono
5th try... victorious!
player level 421... unlocked girl level 700
3 cordyceps... pretty big stash

Nicely done, and w/o a headband too. 

Do you recall your win chances?  Are you not using the HH++ script to estimate that?

The main reason I ask is b/c 173.6k TP is a little overkill for the 1200 wall.  If you knew your odds were high, you might've tried sooner.

Also, don't feel bad about wasting cords here.  That's their intended purpose, and they're definitely necessary here.

Wall: 1200
Reward: 15 MPx1s
Date Won: 10/29/2022
Player Level: 421
Level Cap: 700
Team Levels: 1 M6 (5 stars), 2 L5s, 1 L5 667, 3 L5s 650
Element: Balanced
Blessings: Purple Eyes 35% & Cancer 40%
Atk: 120k
TP:  173657.07
Boosters: 3 cords
Gear: 3 mono
Win Chance: ?%
Tries: 5

Edited October 29, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[Julius Fox]

4 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said:

Do you recall your win chances?  Are you not using the HH++ script to estimate that?

I'm not using the script so I'm not sure of the exact win chance %, sorry.

[Liliat]

I wanted to see if I had a chance to beat Pantheon 1500 without a headband. With 195k TP and lvl 473, 3x Cordy and 4x Mono, I had 0.29% chance of winning.

So.... I gave up and equipped a Headband 😛 the chance went all the way up to 26.32%. With that, 1500 gave up after 7 tries, and Capricorn joined my team. I can now start farming CP for MD.

[Incubys]

Attempt at breaking Level 1500. 118 worship saved (another 10 expected from League)

Girls used : (750) Aella / Ryoko / Zazie (700) Jessie / Valentina (650) Undercover Valentina / Bunna

             Rainbow - 3xCordys                          Mono - 3xCordys                               Mono - 3xCordys & Headband

Passed on 2nd attempt, time to stash some bonus fights for MD

Edit : Made it to 1600 with 17worship left, success chance down to 19.18% (same set up)

And lucky 13th attempt got me through, time to start saving for Level 1700 lol

Edited November 3, 2022 by Incubys

[Alex_i]

Was also gearing up to break the level 1500. Was a bit surprised that 3x Cordy + 6x Mono gave only 0.01% change (team screenshot below). Then saw the post above. So OK can still be doable with headband. Equipped that and the changes went up to 3.55%. Was expecting  a bit more. My mono gear is a bit outdated so maybe a mix with rainbow equipment would have been better.
Anyway, cleared the level with 25th try. Can now start harvesting CP. Finally, the worships are worth something.

[Liliat]

il y a 11 minutes, Alex_i a dit :

My mono gear is a bit outdated so maybe a mix with rainbow equipment would have been better.

Full mono is usually not the best. A mix of mono and rainbow can make a significant difference (I went from 21.25% with 6 mono to 26.32% with 4 mono and 2 rainbow). You need to replace 1 item at a time and find the sweet spot every time, as there is no universal rule as to what the best combination is.

[Gaminggamer]

Need help, have no idea what I'm doing. Stuck at level 800, currently level 357, but I've just been flying blind to be honest. Having a hard time understanding speccing.

[Ravi-Sama]

11 hours ago, Gaminggamer said:

Need help, have no idea what I'm doing. Stuck at level 800, currently level 357, but I've just been flying blind to be honest. Having a hard time understanding speccing.

If you're having trouble at temple 800, then you must be low level, w/ a low max girl level, have a small harem, low passives, and/or not using the right boosters.  True difficulty starts around temple 1100, which took me longer than a day to beat.

I assume you don't have the script installed to estimate your win odds, so start there.

Here's a link & a thread about the script.  It's very helpful.

https://github.com/45026831/hh-plus-plus

Once you have that, you can experiment w/ different girls, gear combinations, and boosters, to see what gives you the best win odds.  Otherwise, it's just guesswork.  Wait for when you have great blessings, boosting your max team up to a respectable TP (140k+).

I beat floor 800 the same day I reached it (12/31/2021), around New Years last year, at lvl 396, and a level 600 girl cap.  Didn't take note of my team's power.

Always use 6 mono gear and 3 codyceps initially, when trying to break a temple wall.  You can experiment w/ other gear combos if you have the script installed, to compare which combo is best.

Don't know your player level (357), girl cap, total power (TP), atk, boosters, gear, win odds, etc.  Can't help further b/c of a lack of info.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Ravi-Sama
Crap,... they did say they were level 357, my bad.

[DvDivXXX]

7 hours ago, Gaminggamer said:

Need help, have no idea what I'm doing. Stuck at level 800, currently level 357, but I've just been flying blind to be honest. Having a hard time understanding speccing.

Ravi's answer is very complete and detailed, but perhaps a bit too much information in your situation...

TL;DR: You're trying to push a late-game feature way too early. Leave it alone for now, and come back in at least a few months. Right now, not knowing what you're doing isn't the main bottleneck. You just don't have the power level to climb any higher yet.

[bolitho76]

8 hours ago, Gaminggamer said:

Need help, have no idea what I'm doing. Stuck at level 800, currently level 357, but I've just been flying blind to be honest. Having a hard time understanding speccing.

To improve your knowledge of game mechanics you should read the "Your performance Handbook" in the Q&A section.

[Ravi-Sama]

The highly anticipated, blessed mythical week, that has long been foretold, will now soon be upon us! 

The girls w/ sapphire eyes, shall be blessed to the maximum, breaking the walls of the pantheon, and leaving them in ruin.

I see at least 18 of my girls will be 82% double blessed!  I can make up to a 206.5k TP team, w/ 6x 40% blessed M6 girls each having a 39.98 max base sum.  I'll try to level them up tomorrow, when there's a GXP LC, and Gem CbC.  I'll buy a mythic headband this week.

I'll have a 198.4k TP team already, w/o spending a single GXP or Gem.

Here's Zoo's sheet.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[DvDivXXX]

While I'm not as impressed by next week's blessings as you are (it's not an actual Mythic blessing, the most powerful blessed girls just happened to be Mythics as most often unless there are double blessings involved—and 200-ishK total power happened plenty before and is nowhere near enough to brute force the final two walls)...

I still agree it should be a good week for Pantheon. Especially since we'll have Mythic gear by then, which should be a bigger game changer in that regard (hopefully).

I might give my 1900 wall another try soon.