Blessings need more balance

[bigkittynutz]

We're about to get three mythic blessings in a row. 

 

This is great if you have enough mythic girls to blitz your way through PvP, but for everyone else it sucks. Seems especially unfair during the month long event that requires you to succeed in PvP to get enough points. 

 

[Horsting]

Agreed. But I guess it is intentionally random, so we are just unlucky.

[Pelinor]

1 hour ago, bigkittynutz said:

This is great if you have enough mythic girls to blitz your way through PvP, but for everyone else it sucks

Hmmm, not as much as you may think. I have the Mythics, but so do most players in my League season. So no blitz is possible; all of us going for a top-four slot are engaged in the search for a sniping shot.

[Horsting]

It is very situational indeed. I am with level 298 and 2 months the by far youngest/lowest player in D1, without a realistic chance to have a mythic girl. 2nd lowest is level 329, 1 month older and has a mythic girl, average level is 460 with multiple mythics. These blessings make it significantly harder for me to get a good rank.

In D3 for those who aim for top 4 I can imagine that it makes to difference.

What does "blitz" mean?

[jelom]

17 minutes ago, Horsting said:

What does "blitz" mean?

You have heard the word "blitzkrieg", didn't you?

[DvDivXXX]

2 hours ago, bigkittynutz said:

This is great if you have enough mythic girls to blitz your way through PvP, but for everyone else it sucks. Seems especially unfair during the month long event that requires you to succeed in PvP to get enough points. 

In low to mid divisions, I don't doubt that whoever happens to have a couple of mythics might get king for a week (or three in this case). That said, most weeks the player who happens to have a few mythics is advantaged anyway at that level.

In D3 and probably most D2 groups these days, it hardly works like that. Most people have a handful of mythics by now, so a flat Mythic buff doesn't really advantage anyone. The big issue at that stage is when one or two specific mythic(s) get a high blessing and you don't happen to have them. Which happens much more often during weeks with more aribitrary or specific blessings like such and such eye color or pose, than during a Week of the Mythic.

PS: A blitz is basically a sudden and unstoppable move, be it in war (as Jelom referenced), in chess, or in whatever context that fits the imagery.

[Horsting]

Oh ... That a word associated to such an ugly episode of history is actively used within a community of such a cute game 🤔. I know nobody here means it, but let me say that people from certain countries and in certain age may not like it.

EDIT: 

10 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said:

be it in war (as Jelom referenced), in chess, or in whatever context that fits the imagery.

Indeed, that particular war is not the only possible association. Fine with me if it is more common among games elsewhere. Where I am living, the word never found its way into games, probably for a reason: too closely affected.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Horsting

[Shorty-er]

Blitz sec really has no negative subtext in the English language. It has long been established in relation to chess and gained usage in e-sports like LoL and "real" sports like american football. It's usage also includes such things as the feeding behavior of fish. It has reached near synonym status in the English language for "fast".

[DvDivXXX]

5 hours ago, Horsting said:

Indeed, that particular war is not the only possible association.

It's not even the main or the first one. To be clear, although my high school level German is very rusty, "blitz" on its own just means "lightning" or "a bolt of lightning", and that's the term that was picked up in English and many other languages, especially through chess. "Blitzkrieg" has "krieg" attached to the blitz adjective, which means war(fare?). So it's lightning(-fast) war(fare). Blitz alone doesn't imply war or conflict, although it is most commonly used in strategy games.

[Horsting]

Makes sense guys, I was reacting to jelom's association + that it is a German word. Reminds me (though not exactly the same) of the case where non-German people call the German soccer team "Panzer" (tank), or did so when it was more successful then the last years. Not sure how widely this is/was done, but in Asian countries it is/was quite common. In Germany however most people are irritated by this and never call their team like that 😅. Just a higher sensitivity for military wording, especially if related to WW2, true for several affected countries in Europe.

[Kissmydick]

since this discussion seems to be getting off track into some potentially problematic direction allow me to steer it back somewhat to the original topic

does anyone else feel like the blessing are...kinda bland for a sex game? eye and hair color  are ok but where is the week of the flat chested girls, the week of big as basketball boobs, the week of bubble butts. all our current blessing other than sex pose could be found in any other game and i think it would be more thematic to see a competitive lineup for seasons of all super busty or petite girls than all blondes or green eyed girls

anyone else agree?

[Horsting]

18 minutes ago, Kissmydick said:

where is the week of the flat chested girls, the week of big as basketball boobs, the week of bubble butts. all our current blessing other than sex pose could be found in any other game and i think it would be more thematic to see a competitive lineup for seasons of all super busty or petite girls than all blondes or green eyed girls

Well, all systematically available girls' attributes are used in blessings. There is no boob or butt size attribute. Career, location, favourite food and such are at least listed as bullet points, but not all girls have all of them, and they are free text, not from a list where they could be picket from for blessings.

Of course the things you listed could be added as systematic attributes, and then used in blessings. It would definitely make them more variable and reduce the chance of double black week and triple mythic week we were/are having. So why not, if KK finds it sufficiently worth it to add those attributes for 1,xxx thousand girls. Such is a monkey job, so the developers at least won't have any fun, I can say 😅.

EDIT: Thinking a bit out of the box: Modern AI should be actually able to automate the job: Derive boob and butt size from images/poses, then do a database entry based on the result. Not trivial either, but way more interesting to develop than doing this manually for so many girls 🙂.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Horsting

[Kissmydick]

i think it would be fun to categorize girls in this game by boob size and rump size but i can see how that would be busy work for some

[holymolly]

50 minutes ago, Kissmydick said:

i think it would be fun to categorize girls in this game by boob size and rump size but i can see how that would be busy work for some

yeah the issue with this is that some girls might have 5 different sizes if they´re 5 stars f.e.

[Liliat]

Okay, so Finalmecia, easy... Done.

Now, Noemy... Small... err.. I mean medium.. Err... Actually, which Noemy are we talking about? All variants? Okay, I got it: "Boob size: Unknown"

[garadron]

Yeah, boob size varies so much throughout their variants it's insane. I have my personal gallery saved where I'm trying to tag images and I have small/medium/big tits tags there. The problem is, in some cases the original girl would be tagged as "small tits" and then you look at her variant and she has giant melons out of a sudden.

[Horsting]

Why is it a problem when sizes differ between variants? It is rare, but also the case with hair and eye colour, and with class, element and pose anyway. So different variants benefit differently from blessings already.

If the different affection/upgrade pictures of the same variant really have different sizes, then, well, an average could do. But I have not yet recognised a girl where this is the case. Does someone have an example?

[Liliat]

il y a 16 minutes, Horsting a dit :

So different variants benefit differently from blessings already.

Wrong. All variants share the same attributes, which is why some girls have "Unknown" attributes (e.g. Housemaid has different hair color in each variant, so she has an "Unknown" hair color).

Pose and Element are different for each variant, so this isn't an issue. But physical attributes and lore are shared by all variants (Full name, description, birthday/zodiac, hobbies, colors, ...)

  

il y a 16 minutes, Horsting a dit :

If the different affection/upgrade pictures of the same variant really have different sizes, then, well, an average could do. But I have not yet recognised a girl where this is the case. Does someone have an example?

OG Noemy, 3rd pose:

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Mythic Noemy, 3rd pose:

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Housemaid variants with different hair colors:

 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Liliat

[Horsting]

5 hours ago, Liliat said:

Wrong. All variants share the same attributes, which is why some girls have "Unknown" attributes (e.g. Housemaid has different hair color in each variant, so she has an "Unknown" hair color).

Oh right, I mixed it up. So everything below "stats", i.e. everything but class, element and favourite pose, is identical. However, as you say, still not an issue with different boob/butt sizes on different variants, if those were added to the "upper stats", i.e. those which vary between variants.

5 hours ago, Liliat said:

OG Noemy, 3rd pose:

Mythic Noemy, 3rd pose:

=>

5 hours ago, Horsting said:

of the same variant

As those are different variants, not an issue.

EDIT: But the fact that the same girl varies so significantly between her variants is confusing, and would be even more prominent if these differences became written stats. Cannot be changed anymore but would be not only for this extended blessings idea good if KK/artists would keep body attributes unchanged between variants. I mean if you go deep with story, did they do an operation?

Edited June 27, 2023 by Horsting

[Liliat]

Ah, if you're referring to this:

Il y a 14 heures, holymolly a dit :

yeah the issue with this is that some girls might have 5 different sizes if they´re 5 stars f.e.

You can ignore Holy, he's just trolling 😛 (Even when he's not trolling, it's safe to just ignore him. That means he's probably just talking about Rin or Norou anyway).

For higher quality girls (5/6*), I would be surprised to see such differences in a single variant, as they are drawn by the same artist at the same time (Except maybe for old C5 girls? I think 4* and 5* were added later on? They still seem pretty consistent to me, but I'm no expert). It could probably happen for lower quality girls, but since there are a gazillion of them, I wouldn't check (I don't have the resources anyway ).

[bigkittynutz]

They should add a blessing for the number of girls in pose or something. IDK, something change it up to make it more porn related. 

[Horsting]

6 hours ago, bigkittynutz said:

change it up to make it more porn related.

I agree in a way, also it would fit better to the description of the blessings: Mother Angel's sex fantasies. The only practical problem really is to extract this info from each girl's images and add it to the attribute database.

It would be a very nice experiment/task for modern AI, also for a developer team to learn how to use/integrate AI productively into daily work, especially such monkey tasks. But it requires significant efforts to get started (choosing and adapting an AI engine, ChatGPT will surely not just do it without adaption + teaching it the database interface), and I don't think that many companies would take this chance+risk yet 😄.

[DvDivXXX]

I think we have too many attributes as it is. Plus they keep changing this or that girl's eye or hair color every now and then seemingly at random, and there are still a few girls who have incorrect and/or incomplete attributes too. It used to be way worse, though: they've rectified a lot of girl's eye and hair colors at some point, because initially we had a lot of girls with completely wrong colors (I'm talking her attribute says Green when the actual color you can see is Black, not a minute nuance like Strawberry Blonde vs Orange).

So I wouldn't want them to invest time and resources into "switching things up" on that front. Let's keep it manageable and kind of familiar by now. They've been changing the game all over the place enough as it is over the past year or so.

[Attirm]

3 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

I think we have too many attributes as it is

I completely agree. The current selection of attributes is already so expansive that Kinkoid has been unable to fill it out even with the enormous release schedule of 5 star Legendaries over the last few years. We still get blessings on a regular basis where fewer than 7 girls are stronger than an unblessed mythic. This week on Nutaku there are all of 8 girls who are stronger than an unblessed mythic. Even after a few years of releasing 5-star legendaries at a frantic pace and a new 6-star mythic every month, we still have countless weeks where there are very few girls who actually benefit from the blessings.

Also, I've said it before and will say it again, but 30% really needs to be the minimum for blessings. A 20% blessing is really not enough to be substantial, and when we see weeks with 20%/25% blessings it may as well be a week without blessings.

[Kissmydick]

its also funny to think that mother angel never has a fantasy about boob or butt size despite being a busty archetype herself

the only thing that get her going are above the neck