trunks2585 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, wtfbbq said: I'm gone through all of my kobans, and completely lost track of the number of fights with no luck. I know the odds are never great but this is just plain bad. how many kobans did you start with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 697 tries to get her. I got a new world record here..... i had 21,000 kobans to start and now I have 14,500 left. I hate this game 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks2585 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Hmmm so two things. 1. Out of curiousity for me and other stat trackers (mostly other stat trackers cause I'm not hardcore about it like the guys in the 'you won a girl' thread) Arden took 697. Anyone have that topped? I know I've seen a few '500 and nothing so far' posts, but do we have 700 or in the thousands yet? 2. An idea. Look let's be honest, this is nothing more than a glorified limited time girl event. Nothing special about it at all other than a short time frame and very random RNG from a few tries to hundreds (which seems to apply to EVERY event.) We've said the game needs something more, and we've talked about including minigames and stuff, so here's my idea, my pitch for the dev team. How about turning these legendary girls into a raid boss style minigame? I'm going to compare this to a few other mobil games I do. See in games like kingdom hearts union cross, or valkerie crusade, you fight a powerful boss over and over and whittle it's health down over the course of many fights, usually with your online friends joining in to chip in on the damage. Noobs do very little damage because they don't have the power yet and the vets can solo these things. So how about a similar system here for special girls? Except it would work in reverse. You keep having battle with her to try and fill up an affection or seduction bar. The stronger your team is, the faster it fills up. Once you hit 100 percent, you get her. The catch is of course it should take many battles to get the girl and you'll want a good team, it'd still be a form of fighting battle after battle, but it would do a few things. 1, it would be something different. 2. It'd give people a reason to care about their teams an stats besides pvp. 3. It'd give people a more fair chance at girls with a clear indicator on if they can get the girl or if they are too new to the game to do it without spending lots of kobans. (and if you do take this idea for the love of god don't turn it into something that you need to spam CP refills on to win, that defeats the purpose of this suggestion.) And 4, it would actually make these legendary girl events feel special. It would also resolve the issue of dark lord getting everything if the girl isn't captured by him or another troll but if she has her own separate battle section. And hell make it so she doesn't give you anything other than....well herself when you've 100 percent seduce her. Make players chose if they want to persue a girl that will day a few days of cp with no boss income for a girl, or if they want to pass on her and just farm money or other girls. I play a handful of mobil and browser games, and I'll be honest, HH is lacking, turning this legendary girl into a raid boss sort of event would be one step to improving it. Otherwise don't bother calling these legendary girl events, they are just glorified short timer drops. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtfbbq Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, trunks2585 said: how many kobans did you start with? About 3000, not a whole lot, but not enough for a single refill either. I have 9 left. Edit: I absolutely hate luck/RNGesus events (and team events). I don't mind the normal events because something is guaranteed as long as the events are completed in the activities. This however is probably going to make me quit the game as I have terrible luck with the scars to prove it. Edited March 29, 2018 by wtfbbq 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba the Geek Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, daFenster said: God, just imagine. At a casino, and instead of 3 7s, you get 3 69s across the board, and a confused girl pops out. Honestly surprised this hasn't happened in the story, now that I think about it... Yeah, the girls are waaaaaay too into it, but at the same time, I understand I am reading a comic about a world where sex reigns everything, and honestly it could just be their culture. I think it would be funny seeing a culture like this reacting to a culture like ours. They may be just as repulsed! Actually I just got through the cave in fire, and I think I see what you are getting at. If I recall, she is supposed to be from "our" world, right? Even shy, I can't imagine someone *this* ignorant of anything sexual (especially with her age+her looks). And then turning into a nympho after 3 seconds of fingering a woman? ok... Or they fall asleep, bored with our 'moral compasses'! Yes, you're right about the comic book thing. I appreciate that most players probably have an expectation of the horny nympho stereotype and it would be hard for HH to break from this mould in case players left in droves. However, there is some scope for more imaginative thinking that maybe takes us out of our comfort zones (maybe just a little at first). They might lose some players but would gain a lot more. As an example, I posted a comment about Loving Justine and how the script writers completely missed the opportunity to paint her in a way beyond her one-dimensional obsessional and possessive, nutcase personality. This post was removed (possibly because I went off topic, or perhaps because I hit a raw nerve) but not before I had three likes. So some people actually agreed with me. Valentines Day was a golden opportunity to explore that annoyingly romantic notion called love: giving of oneself for another person and sacrificing in a way that one's partner gets it and responds to it in kind - giving of oneself without words so much, but deeds. This is actually a lot more erotic for most guys I know than a full-on sex fest and girls covered in cum. I choose not to display these profile images in my harem and instead choose images of my girls in only a moderate state of undress because the mystery of 'what's under the bonnet' is more arousing for me than full-on dripping nakedness. But that's me and maybe I'm just weird. HH got ever so close in the notion of true love with two of the successive daily missions for the Loving Moments event: Bunny sad and disengaged, so our hero gives her a very loving and soothing massage without any sex. Next scene, Bunny was surprised and wondered why he didn't take advantage, but she responded to this self-sacrifice by kissing him (tenderly?) and cuddling up to him. It was clear from the second scene alone that she really loved him and this has also been shown in how she comes to the rescue right throughout the game at unexpected times on a hunch or a feeling. Generally, though, our hero is a bit of a tosser and I'd find it hard to see how any girl not heavily into nympho porn and wanting him for his huge cock alone would find him remotely attractive. That Loving Moments scene showed another side to him, a welcome side. I thought Justine, in her second rendition, could have been sensitively and lovingly manipulated into taking a different route and I wrote alternative affection scene scripts to reflect this (the posting that was removed). I personally think Justine is one of the hottest and most beautiful girls in the HH collection and a better script that showed a truer vulnerable and uncertain side to her might have capitalised on this. As it was actually presented, the script was fatuous and made no connections or sense whatsoever for any Valentine's Day theme. It is just the same with how they progressed Lenaëlle's character (or didn't, as it turned out). I haven't got beyond her second star yet so I can't really be sure, but my expectations for anything beyond the usual for her final affection scene are not high. Given how she was painted from the word go, this was a tragically lost opportunity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba the Geek Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Life goes on. I had a crack at Epic Pachinko (5 plays) and got one epic, 3 legendary items, as well as Skytte - not my fav girl but what the heck. I'm in front in the contest for the casino now, but I don't expect to remain there for long. I took advantage of the fact that most of you would be spending money on trying to get Levitya thus giving me a clear run at winning the contest. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Encino Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 'Adjusted' cause it is only three days to get this legendary girl -> My ass!!! Wasted already over 5000 kobans for battle refills and nothing, no drop. I think I should just give up and let this one pass. If the money reward was any better than I would have said, ok. But only seeing: You Won! Here is your 3.500 ingame money is not worth it either. Next to that, I already have it happen a few times now that I refill with kobans, and I hit battle it takes off another koban for no reason at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreBite Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 43 minutes ago, Encino said: 'Adjusted' cause it is only three days to get this legendary girl -> My ass!!! You mean like that one event where the devs (through their avatar, a.k.a. "Bunny", whom, BTW, is still long overdue a good spanking) boasted about there being a x3 drop rate for the event girls at the time, yet it felt more like a x0.3 drop rate? (Way to screw-up the formula, guys!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 123 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Finally got her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroZero Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Arden said: 697 tries to get her. I got a new world record here..... i had 21,000 kobans to start and now I have 14,500 left. I hate this game My experience was similar. I spent ~7,250 Kobans and finally got her this morning with 1 try to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 It's all down to 1 thing: You spend way too many kobans early on, because you didn't want to wait to get her in a normal way. I got her yesterday with one of my final attempts. No patience You could've waited with spending kobans until the last day, and try to get her for free first. But you wanted her soon, so you used kobans, and now you are angry because you didn't get the girl in a randomized process. Buying more tickets for the lotery doesn't guarantee the jackpot, it merely makes your chance bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Well...Kobans used on recharge? 0, as always. DO NOT waste kobans in recharge, people. Have patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 123 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Actually it didn't take me much at all. About 150 koans this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I haven't being particularly lucky in terms of girl drops in this game. That stated during the last 3 events I have received the 2 special event girls and this event 'special" girl available from the bosses by fighting them using the regular fights available from the combative timer I haven't had to buy any combat points using kobans, I just needed patience as I won the 2nd of the girl(s) on the last day of the 2 previous events. However I did get lucky this event as I won the girl yesterday I guess I might be luckier than I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHaamu Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 After following this thread and seeing the frustration growing, I'm really starting to think they should add "Guaranteed event girl drop". If you fight the boss certain amount times without getting girl, every try is counted towards the threshold and once you hit that, you will get girl for certain with next fight. However, this "fight threshold" should be rather high. For example, 500 fights for 7 day events and 700-800 for 14 day events. Yes, what I'm suggesting here seems pay2win method, but just hold your horses before you decided to end them. First of, let's be honest here. This game is already pay2win. Every event they add 5 new girls, but free players can only get 2 of them. That means cashers get 150% more than us free players. Through this, cashers have more girls and better stats for PvP, giving them clear edge. They can and will also buy better gear, giving them further benefit. As cashers also have more girls, they got better income, which again makes things easier for them. So, I ask you, what part of this game doesn't already make the game pay2win? Anyway, this "fight threshold" idea of mine ain't unfair for free players either. As you can still get the girls with lucky draws just like always. Also, this threshold would actually even benefit them, because this way free players too are guaranteed to get at least one of the event girls by fighting same boss all the time and then maybe use their freely gain kobans, if they miss some fights. Actually, with system like mine, koban use would become more "tactical" as you would know how much you need to use to buy extra combativity points and if's it's worth to you or not. Certainly, cashers would definitely benefit the most of this "fight threshold". Yet, even guaranteed girl drop isn't automatic win to cashers. As this Legendary days event has shown, many people have now wasted lots kobans without getting the girl, which leads to a frustration even more than it's with free players. This frustration means these people are less likely to spend in the future, which means less money for devs. However, if we add this "fight threshold", then cashers are actually eventually rewarded for their money spend, when they can get the girl. But to get this girl for guaranteed, cashers still need to spend (waste) thousands of kobans, so it's not easy or cheap for them.And because these threshold are high on purpose, it's designed to punish cashers wallets/credits cards and make them question, if it's worth it. Also, if we look this "fight threshold" idea from purely business perspective, I'm actually surprised that it hasn't been implemented yet. As it would mean more money to devs. If it would be known that you will get event girl for sure after certain amount of fights, more people would be willing to use and even buy kobans, if they really want that girl and didn't get lucky. This system would also prey for players ego and completionist nature as these type of people are more likely to spend some €/$ in frustration, if they are close to getting a girl. Sure, this ain't nice thing, but games already do this as it's "good for business". Now, I can already hear some of people here thinking that how could this guaranteed drop system be more money productive than random drop. I mean, if you look at this Legendary days and how much some people have already spend and not get the girl. You would think that's clear win for the devs, isn't it? And it's.......really really really short term. If you ask any of those "hundreds of fights and thousands of koban used for nothing" players here, if they would be willing to do the same in next Legendary day event, I would think the answer is resounding "Hell No!". But, what if there would be "fight threshold" and these same players would've got their girls after +500 fights and the money it required to get there? Would these people be willing to repeat the process the next time? I'm not sure, but I do believe it would be more likely, if they would know they would get the girl for sure, even after wasting lots of attempts before this. As with current system, someone can do thousands of fights and waste even more kobans and still get nothing, which is damn bad business in long term as it doesn't encourage people to continue use money. In any case, what do you people think about this? Would this kind of "fight threshold" idea for event girl be good or bad and would you like it? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichigosageda Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I am falling into depression, i always get girl on dark lord in 1 day, it's been 2 days now and i still havent won the girl yet. I did refill 2 times and still nothing, i am so sad.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantrix Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 496 tries nearing 500 with astounding 0% success, that's some hell! I bet it has to do something with the damn housemaid dropping just before the event started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantrix Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadowHaamu said: If you ask any of those "hundreds of fights and thousands of koban used for nothing" players here, if they would be willing to do the same in next Legendary day event, I would think the answer is resounding "Hell No!". But, what if there would be "fight threshold" and these same players would've got their girls after +500 fights and the money it required to get there? Would these people be willing to repeat the process the next time? I'm not sure, but I do believe it would be more likely, if they would know they would get the girl for sure, even after wasting lots of attempts before this. As with current system, someone can do thousands of fights and waste even more kobans and still get nothing, which is damn bad business in long term as it doesn't encourage people to continue use money. In any case, what do you people think about this? Would this kind of "fight threshold" idea for event girl be good or bad and would you like it? Completely agree, no more cash is going to be wasted into this RNG hellhole . Actually the frustration got me close to giving up on the game entirely. I guess that's not a bad option too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daFenster Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cantrix said: 496 tries nearing 500 with astounding 0% success, that's some hell! I bet it has to do something with the damn housemaid dropping just before the event started. As far as I know, event girls are not subject to those rules. No amount of playing before will have increased the chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takhoor Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, ichigosageda said: I am falling into depression, i always get girl on dark lord in 1 day, it's been 2 days now and i still havent won the girl yet. I did refill 2 times and still nothing, i am so sad.. I know dude I usually get a girl from dark lord fast but this one frustrating used all my kobans on her zilch nothing 300+ fights I think maybe I'm close or so , but this game getting frustrating so I think maybe after this if I don't get the girl this game is dead to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantrix Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Encino said: 'Adjusted' cause it is only three days to get this legendary girl -> My ass!!! Wasted already over 5000 kobans for battle refills and nothing, no drop. I think I should just give up and let this one pass. If the money reward was any better than I would have said, ok. But only seeing: You Won! Here is your 3.500 ingame money is not worth it either. Next to that, I already have it happen a few times now that I refill with kobans, and I hit battle it takes off another koban for no reason at all. It is adjusted, it's so low that it makes it legendary unobtainable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba the Geek Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Got her for the third time... In a know-how account, AGAIN! Grrr. Why can't I get her in hardcore? It's a conspiracy to frustrate, I tell you! It's a conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said: Got her for the third time... In a know-how account, AGAIN! Grrr. Why can't I get her in hardcore? It's a conspiracy to frustrate, I tell you! It's a conspiracy! Dude go buy ur self a lottery ticket before using up all your luck. there are people spending thousands of kobans and end up not getting this girl and you got her three times? imma go cry now 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asgar Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I just payed to win her, i said fuck epic panchico i cant effort a new girl anyway and spent about 8 cobans on her because i though a legendary must be awesome. long story short, i got her and leveled her up. IF you play a hardcore player or thinking about switching to one.....GET HER! she surpassed my domination Samane 10 times with only 2 stars! otherwise. wait for a next legendary event. i guess they made enough money out of this one so there will be a second, thrid, fourht and so on gl hf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba the Geek Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, CharlesFrancis said: Dude go buy ur self a lottery ticket before using up all your luck. there are people spending thousands of kobans and end up not getting this girl and you got her three times? imma go cry now Sorry I shouldn't laugh. I'm still gunna cry myself, though (people like me you just can't please, huh). I REALLY want her in hardcore, but she just won't bloody drop. I hope you're wrong and that I haven't used up all my luck just yet. If I get her in this account I'll put my feet up and rest easy. I've quit spending kobans to get her and take the approach that if she drops she drops. I used them in Epic Pachinko instead and got that pink-haired, pencil-thin friend of Eugenie's who first appeared in Begin City - Skytte. Hey, I just battled someone with Levitya as alpha (he was know-how) and I beat him. I didn't check to see what her affection level was, but it's more than 2 stars because I have her at that. I suspect she'll only be competitive for hardcore players, but maybe that guy was just showing her off. I don't know. I don't think it was a bot cos I got 11 mojo points for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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