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  • The Attraction system gets an upgrade: when players fight a villain, their chances of getting Attraction points for the girls they’ve already attracted will increase. Thus, a player will be able to add a Girl in his Harem faster.

I didn’t quite understand what it meant and went to watch the patchwork for the French. Here is his translation.

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Change when gaining attraction for classic girls of villains, when it is question of determining for which girl you receive of the attraction, the girl whose attraction is the highest will have more chance to receive again of attraction

As I understand it - for girls who are not from the event, but always with the bosses now will be the priority of the fragments for the one that already has more than the others. This is a good change - now it will be possible to get one girl faster than to save up on three at once, and until then not to have one. Well, the new scroll is also good, and the rest is not particularly interesting.

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7 minutes ago, Lemus said:

As I understand it - for girls who are not from the event, but always with the bosses now will be the priority of the fragments for the one that already has more than the others. This is a good change - now it will be possible to get one girl faster than to save up on three at once, and until then not to have one. Well, the new scroll is also good, and the rest is not particularly interesting.

I understand it the same way. And if that is correct, this might fix my biggest problem with the shard system. But this is different from what the English patch notes claims. According to that it would apply to any girl, so even if it just one event girl on the villian, then the chance to get a shard drop would increase as you get more shards. 

My guess is that the French patch notes are more accurate, so the chance of a shard drop stays the same, but when deciding which girl drops them, it prioritizes the one with the most shards already.

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Thanks for posting that, because for a moment I thought that, if I had a girl on my Harem and there was a new version of her in an event, it would be easier to get her. But it looks like that's not the case.

I guess that, with Karole, it means I'll get more shards for Rin than Willow.

 

As for the bundles, the later ones seem overpriced and overpowered, but that's just my opinion.

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A big change to help out during revival events when more than one event girl will be on the same villain such as dark lord during legendary days revival and the anniversary event where more than one event girl is on the same villain.

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hace 1 hora, natstar dijo:

A big change to help out during revival events when more than one event girl will be on the same villain such as dark lord during legendary days revival and the anniversary event where more than one event girl is on the same villain.

That's been one of my fears, reaching the anniversary with the same system as the last one and then fight a boss, getting something like 150-200 shards but they're all split into different girls so that you end with no girl at all.

Still, this update increases the chances to getting shards for the girl that has most shards, but doesn't eliminate the drops for the other girls.

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My worries come from the wording of the patch and this particular sentence: "...chances of getting Attraction points for the girls they’ve already attracted will increase..."
It doesn't guarantee you will get shards for only one girl till you seduce her, but implies increase which is as vague as it can get. Reminds me of high chance of a girl for the Event Pachinko, which still has to drop the first girl for me after 14 unsuccessful spins.
Moreover what happens if you have shards for 2 girls on the same boss, nothing will change for you.
For the sake of objectivity i'll say it shows a desire from the devs to move in the right direction, which is  always a welcome thing. :)

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I too like the likelihood that the shards focus more on one girl to finish her. 

Which of course has to be handled not plain equally for event girls: if I had three regular boss girls with 45 shards, the single event girl would stand in line and had to wait... 

So I assume here is still seperation "who get shards - event vs boss" and afterwards "how many shards".

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The bundles, being a fully free player, are of zero interest to me. We will see if the attraction upgrade will mantain the promise. It would surely have been better if also event girls would have been affected by the upgrade, as the english notes seemed to imply.

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3 hours ago, Observer_X said:

The bundles, being a fully free player, are of zero interest to me.

The funny thing about that? If there had been a bundle that had even one exclusive girl included in it, I might have at least considered not staying a fully free player. Frankly I'm still amazed something similar hasn't been implemented yet. And to be clear, I mean a one-time payment that gets you a girl, not a subscription that gets you a girl.

I'm not quite sure what this change to Attraction means, but I do think the current system, for boss girls, needs some tweaking. I preferred it when I couldn't see how close I was to getting a boss girl. Getting less than a handful of shards only sometimes, and generally for a different girl each time, is far more annoying to me.

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The Kinkoid developers have clarified that the slightly confusing statement "Every player will have the bundle of his current World activated on his account." means that it will be possible to purchase it, not that it will be given for free. But more importantly, they have stated (in Discord) that it will only be possible to buy that one, not the ones from the previous worlds.

This creates a big problem for the players who are willing to pay for this game, because those who are already in world 12 will not be allowed to buy the bundle from world 11 or any of the previous worlds.  As discussed in the French forum, this creates a huge difference between a player who is finishing world 11 and a player who is already in world 12. The one who is already in world 12 (maybe because she has done just one more mission than the other player) will have a disadvantage if she is not allowed to buy the bundle from world 11. To get the same amount of Kobans from a normal offer instead of a bundle will cost more than 72 € extra (or more than 7200 Nutaku gold) !

It does not sound very fair that the more advanced player would have a disadvantage of 7200 Nutaku gold for being in world 12 instead of world 11.  I hope that the developers will change their mind and will allow the players who are already in world 12 to also buy one or more bundles from the previous worlds.

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I wonder what the Legendary Suit that comes with the bundle will consist of. Hopefully it's just a full multistat set. Otherwise if they go 3 multistat, and one of each monostat, a couple of them will just be sold. Such a waste.

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I assume the following: kobans are tight, ymen comes by, equipment does not last forever

did some simple math ....

so if 1.99 € per 600 kobans for beginners this is 301.5 kobans per Euro, right? and 20 combativity refill costs 216 kobans? and 100 energy = 270 kobans?

  •   wX: (direct kobans+combativity equivalent + energy equivalent)/euro
  •   w3: 301.5 kobans/ Euro (1929 k/e with energy || 301.5 k/e direct kobans only)
  •   w4: 301.5 k/e (1658.3 k/e energy  || 301.5 k/e direct)
  •   w5: 378.2 k/e (1538.7 k/e energy  || 378.2 k/e direct)
  •   w6: 507.4 k/ e (1319.0 k/e energy || 420.8 k/e direct)
  •   w7: 487.6 k/ e (1067.0 k/e energy || 394.8 k/e direct)
  •   w8: 468.5 k/ e (  873.9 k/e energy || 360.4 k/e direct)
  •   w9: 388.3 k/ e (  613.4 k/e energy || 280.2 k/e direct)
  • w10: 826.4 k/ e (  826.4 k/e energy || 635.7 k/e direct)
  • w11: 725.1 k/e (   725.1 k/e energy || 552.2 k/e direct)
  • w12: 700.2 k/e (   520.2 k/e energy || 520.2 k/e direct)

and w3 = Ninja Spy?

because there is this "efficiency plunge" like with the max shards/ fight again which I don't understand (see for details https://forum.hentaiheroes.com/index.php?/topic/8630-patch-notes-120219/)

  • w3 - w4 - w5 - w6 - w7 - w8 - w9 - w10 - w11 - w12
  • 30 -   16 -    7 -    7 -    8 -    7 -    5  -     4  -     3  -  (3)
  • why this plunge in w6 & w7??

So in  terms kobans/ euro

  • if you would spend kobans on energy to get faster through story / take the extra XP: w3 is best
  • if you focus only on combativity (getting girls...): w10 is best
  • if you focus only on direct kobans: w10 is best

When I take this post as a base for "what is equipement worth" (https://forum.hentaiheroes.com/index.php?/topic/9737-rainbow-vs-monochrome-gear/&do=findComment&comment=136594)

than it is clear, that the legendary sets might last 30 - 50 levels, which is a long time for w10/w11/w12 (as currently you are lvl 250-300 reaching these worlds)

And it is clear, that 1500 energy brings you through half or entire kingdom.

So equipmet received in w3 will be quite useless very quickly.

 

Why? Why not more balanced (k/e)  if there is really the need of "only the offer of the world you maximal reached"?

 

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nobody:
me:
literally no one:
JK Rowling:
my pornhub search history:
Kinkoid: Let's f*ck "endgame" players in particular!
Thanos: *approves*

 

 

PS. Maybe enable all packs starting from the lowest, and each time a pack is bought the next one became available. You may also add a feature that disables the bonus energy for late worlds in exchange for few -% reduced price / convert that energy into additional Kobans/combativity.

 

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Thanks everybody for the clarification on the attraction system update.  I understand better how it's meant to work now.  I'm quite looking forward to this afternoon (NZ time) because I have Toshiko slowly building shards, but she is being thwarted by shard additions to Rin and Willow.  Now it seems she'll be a priority.

Am I wrong to assume that none of the changes will affect the chances of a x100 jackpot gained by lower-ranking girls on the attraction scale?  As Jack Crawford famously said in Red Dragon: "Assume means making an ass out of you and me".  Given the history of my assumptions and predictions to date, others might rightly regard me as an ass already.

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My thought process looking at the packs in the "patch notes":

"So they're 2 euros each... I don't know how much that is in dollars but I guess that's not too bad.  Maybe?  Depends what exactly we get in a pack, though."

"Oh wait, that one is 3.50.  Ooh, ouch, that one is 5.  Crap, they're just getting worse as I look farther down the list.  Sounds really hard to justify purchases of anything past the first few packs."

 

I was also thinking as I read it that the intention was that all packs for the current world and lower would be available.  Sounds like a rational assumption, right?

If it's true what people are saying here about us only ever being offered one pack based on our current progress at the time of the patch, that just sounds to me like the game devs are telling us "PLEASE IGNORE THIS!!!"

 

Hmmm.... I play it on Nutaku and I know there's a big difference between that version and the other version in what a "koban" is worth.  Which version are the koban amounts listed in the "patch notes" scaled for?

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43 minutes ago, eloisa said:

Does anyone know where the bundles packages are?

Its a tab on the screen where you go to buy kobans or the monthly card. So click on the (+) button next to your koban amount and a new screen will pop up. Click on the third tab and that is where bundles should be. However, it looks like bundles are not even live.

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