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Do any know what there mean by "50% off for Pachinko reroll "
Looking at the Pachinko. There's no 50% off from in any of the Pachinko Tryed the 6k For a draft and chose one and the next roll is still the same 6k Kobans.. Is it bugged or how does this new feature work

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6 hours ago, Reddinkill said:

Do any know what there mean by "50% off for Pachinko reroll "
Looking at the Pachinko. There's no 50% off from in any of the Pachinko Tryed the 6k For a draft and chose one and the next roll is still the same 6k Kobans.. Is it bugged or how does this new feature work

it means the reroll time of your free game, so you get 2 great pachinko games per day and every day 1 mythic pachinko free game

Thats how i understand it ^^

Edit: sry, i was wrong... other player here told us what it mean ^^

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9 minutes ago, Reddinkill said:

Do any know what there mean by "50% off for Pachinko reroll "
Looking at the Pachinko. There's no 50% off from in any of the Pachinko Tryed the 6k For a draft and chose one and the next roll is still the same 6k Kobans.. Is it bugged or how does this new feature work

Did you bought the Platinum card yet?

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10 minutes ago, Reddinkill said:

Do any know what there mean by "50% off for Pachinko reroll "
Looking at the Pachinko. There's no 50% off from in any of the Pachinko Tryed the 6k For a draft and chose one and the next roll is still the same 6k Kobans.. Is it bugged or how does this new feature work

When you do a x10 games option of the Epic Pachinko, you get a guaranteed girl. A not-well-advertised feature is that you can change that girl after seeing her, for the cost of 600 kobans, or 300 kobans if you have the platinum card now. This reroll can be done many times, and will always present a girl you have not yet seen via the reroll feature for this current set of rolls. So it can guarantee you see the specific girl you desire.

1 minute ago, Leo_de_Porto said:

it means the reroll time of your free game, so you get 2 great pachinko games per day and every day 1 mythic pachinko free game

Thats how i understand it ^^

This is incorrect, please see above

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2nd to 4th place players will receive 120/20 Kobans

This change seems okay to me in and of itself. 20% of the field getting kobans did seem a bit too generous. It's just a missed opportunity in terms of communication (which is unfortunately an area in which Kinkoid has had a bit of a weakness for quite a while). By announcing 10 winners first, and then moving back to 4 winners, they will disappoint a number of players, simply because of the higher expectations they gave us. That's too bad, because this is still a great improvement over what we have, and I prefer to focus on that rather than on the fact that it's slightly less amazing than what was initially announced.

The same thing happened in the past, especially around the incredible gift that was (and still is, for future players) Mizuki. I'll never forget how disappointing and frustrating it was to see such an awesome and generous move result in a massive wave of player complaints and dissatisfaction because Kinkoid messed up on the technical side of things at the time, but even more so in their communication. It's something that could really be improved upon. I hate to see great things going unnoticed or at least not being as welcomed as they should simply because the team didn't plan well enough beforehand.

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Sorry guys, I hate to change the subject, but Kinkoid did an update that they didn't even mention and that is the stats upgrades. You remember before when you was able to go buy 1x 5x 10x 25x 50x and 100x. Well they changed that. Now it's 1x 10x 30x and 60x. That would have been nice to know, except that they took away the 100x and I was using that! Is anybody else NOT happy about this, cuz I know I am.

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4 minutes ago, Jcord777 said:

Sorry guys, I hate to change the subject, but Kinkoid did an update that they didn't even mention and that is the stats upgrades. You remember before when you was able to go buy 1x 5x 10x 25x 50x and 100x. Well they changed that. Now it's 1x 10x 30x and 60x. That would have been nice to know, except that they took away the 100x and I was using that! Is anybody else NOT happy about this, cuz I know I am.

I don't know, I guess I'll see the next time I level up. Several low-level members of my club had an entire discussion about this and they seem to think there's also a bug going with it, depending on which option you use. I didn't pay too much attention to their ramblings, because honestly they're not knowledgeable enough, logical enough, or good enough at maths to be reliable on anything they theorize about the game.

If there is an actual bug, I'm sure actual experts will post about it soon. In the meantime, as long as the x10 option is still there and working as it should, I don't care at all. Wait and see.

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6 minutes ago, Jcord777 said:

Sorry guys, I hate to change the subject, but Kinkoid did an update that they didn't even mention and that is the stats upgrades. You remember before when you was able to go buy 1x 5x 10x 25x 50x and 100x. Well they changed that. Now it's 1x 10x 30x and 60x. That would have been nice to know, except that they took away the 100x and I was using that! Is anybody else NOT happy about this, cuz I know I am.

Well, 30x and 60x makes more sense, since a lvl is 30x. And it cant be so tough to click an extra time to get 120x instead of 100x or why was the 100 so great?

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1 minute ago, DvDivXXX said:

I don't know, I guess I'll see the next time I level up. Several low-level members of my club had an entire discussion about this and they seem to think there's also a bug going with it, depending on which option you use. I didn't pay too much attention to their ramblings, because honestly they're not knowledgeable enough, logical enough, or good enough at maths to be reliable on anything they theorize about the game.

If there is an actual bug, I'm sure actual experts will post about it soon. In the meantime, as long as the x10 option is still there and working as it should, I don't care at all. Wait and see.

What I experienced was that the lvl I just got was cheaper than before. A full lvl for me cost somewhere between 5-6M and now 0,5M. And if I remember correctly its was the non-main stats that were cheaper.

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25 minutes ago, Baycastle said:

Well, 30x and 60x makes more sense, since a lvl is 30x. And it cant be so tough to click an extra time to get 120x instead of 100x or why was the 100 so great?

Honestly it's because it was easier for me. If I wanted to level up faster on my stats I just clicked the 100. Sure it was 100× more but worth it, or at least that's what I thought until now.

 

23 minutes ago, Baycastle said:

What I experienced was that the lvl I just got was cheaper than before. A full lvl for me cost somewhere between 5-6M and now 0,5M. And if I remember correctly its was the non-main stats that were cheaper.

Actually you're right I just did some calculations, well quick calculations, and I noticed that yes it is a hell of a lot more cheaper then it was before. For example, my charm stat would cost 8253 for each upgrade, multiply that by 60, and it would cost 495,180. Now it cost 33.4K. Both hardcore and know how is around 4600, multiply that by 60, and what would cost around 276,000 now it's 18.8K. So yeah it's actually more cheaper now, the more you multiply the more you save. Yeah it is definitely better now. I take back my complaints earlier.

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Yeah, I put these on Discord earlier today, from a fresh account:

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Something is clearly very wrong with the cost calculations for multi upgrades now.

(For the less mathematically inclined, the displayed costs should be 5, 140, 1020 and 3840.)

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2 hours ago, Jcord777 said:

Honestly it's because it was easier for me. If I wanted to level up faster on my stats I just clicked the 100.

That's just because you're super late on your stats compared to your level, and you should catch up eventually. For most players, anything above x30 should be useless most of the time, because that's the max you'll ever use once you're getting serious and keeping your stats up to date.

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I'm happy with the change in the contests rewards but I can't help to be skeptical. I have a hard time to believe that this is free. It must be hiding something like more stuff to spend kobans in.

If that's true, the game continues to go in the wrong direction IMO and I can only imagine that @Observer_X won't be pleased.

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On 2/5/2020 at 10:27 PM, linkdream said:

I'm happy with the change in the contests rewards but I can't help to be skeptical. I have a hard time to believe that this is free. It must be hiding something like more stuff to spend kobans in.

If that's true, the game continues to go in the wrong direction IMO and I can only imagine that @Observer_X won't be pleased.

 

It has always been so, all the improves bring more stuff to spend kobans with it, and most of the improves are only fallacies, the newest fallacy it´s "For Classic events, the affection shards drop amount has been improved significantly" well, my last 80 fights i only obtained 3 beautiful, gorgeous and worthy affection shards, what a bargain, i had to admit this, in my first 20 fights I've obtained 19 shards, but after that the drop rate has been decreased in the latest fights, its something like the game adjusting the amount of shard that you can obtain per day, something they call balanze, and again i have to say the things has always been so, and always will be so no matter what the player said.

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6 hours ago, Baycastle said:

Well, 30x and 60x makes more sense, since a lvl is 30x. And it cant be so tough to click an extra time to get 120x instead of 100x or why was the 100 so great?

there are people that feels most comfort with a round number like 100 instead a 120, the fact it's that he say there's no more the 100 the maximum it´s 60, let's guess this, you have enough cash to buy 100 but not to buy 120, well yo have to use the 10, 30 and at last 60 to buy the 100

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41 minutes ago, canita said:

 

It has always been so, all the improves bring more stuff to spend kobans with it, and most of the improves are only fallacies, the newest fallacy it´s "For Classic events, the affection shards drop amount has been improved significantly" well, my last 80 fights i only obtained 3 beautiful, gorgeous and worthy affection shards, what a bargain, i had to admit this, in my first 20 fights I've obtained 19 shards, but after that the drop rate has been decreased in the latest fights, its something like the game adjusting the amount of shard that you can obtain per day, something they call balanze, and again i have to say the things has always been so, and always will be so no matter what the player said.

Funny you call them out on fallacies, but you yourself commit the greatest fallacy when it comes to probability and statistics; I'd steer away from that confirmation bias, if I were you. Those are really bad advisers when making a judgment.

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2 hours ago, canita said:

(Conspiracy theory BS in a giant weird font)

You know, we can picture your tinfoil hat just by what you're saying; no need to represent it visually by making your post bigger and harder to read.

Drop rate =/= drop range, just so you know. They mistakenly used the former in some of their recent announcements, but what they increased is the latter (from 1-6 to 1-8). And yeah, your minuscule sample size has no significance at all. That's not how you evaluate odds, that's how you indulge in your superstition.

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Just got an 100 drop for Date Arianne :) So I can't really complain.

But there's good days, and bad days. Not so long ago I had some bad streaks on the Circus Event, while the Foreplay one was also a.. challenging one 🙄

On the other side, I got a 100 drop on that one that made up for it, now another on this one.

The thing is, there's now potential for things to go quicker and a chance for yet an additional girl. 

The odds part will always go back and forth, so it is what it is. Gotta try grinding through it 👍

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11 hours ago, _shal_ said:

Something is clearly very wrong with the cost calculations for multi upgrades now.

In case this isn't just a visual bug, the ToF weekly Stat upgrades standings (HH server) would suggest many people are making use of this bug. For the last few (probably several) weeks, by the week's end at most 1 or 2 players had been over 16K upgrades, now there are several and it's only less than middle of the week.

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1 hour ago, John 1039 said:

In case this isn't just a visual bug, the ToF weekly Stat upgrades standings (HH server) would suggest many people are making use of this bug. For the last few (probably several) weeks, by the week's end at most 1 or 2 players had been over 16K upgrades, now there are several and it's only less than middle of the week.

This is very unfair to people who has maxed stats :((

I wonder what would they do with this bug

Probably negative ymens? Like deduction on their ymens with its true cost? And how long was this bug going on now, i think there's still no topic in bug reporting about this too😣😣

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Just for reference... two new contests opened up, which now make... 4 active contests 🤔 

Strangely, one of those... seems to have a 2 day duration, which doesn't match what was said (the casino one started with a 1d duration but now shows 2d 🧐 )

If the new 24h duration will go on as announced for all contests, most of the winners should become americans and others who are around for the resets.

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5 minutes ago, Karyia said:

Just for reference... two new contests opened up, which now make... 4 active contests 🤔 

Strangely, one of those... seems to have a 2 day duration, which doesn't match what was said (the casino one started with a 1d duration but now shows 2d 🧐 )

If the new 24h duration will go on as announced for all contests, most of the winners should become americans and others who are around for the resets.

I think they just want to end all contests with 2 days duration by threes just like what they do regularly anyway

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3 minutes ago, ~Crown Clown said:

I think they just want to end all contests with 2 days duration by threes just like what they do regularly anyway

What I understood from this:

"The cycle of 6 days will be changed to 24 hours (1 day) period for each contest"

... was that all contests would last 24h. So... from reset to reset?

Though sometimes announcements get... tricky :D 

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2 minutes ago, ~Crown Clown said:

This is very unfair to people who has maxed stats :((

I wonder what would they do with this bug

Probably negative ymens? Like deduction on their ymens with its true cost? And how long was this bug going on now, i think there's still no topic in bug reporting about this too😣😣

It's a bug. It's not intended, so there's no fairness or unfairness involved. The only part that is almost certainly intended is actually good: they updated the buttons to be slightly more practical and better aligned with how many stat points we get per new level (the x30 and x60 buttons). The fact that it now costs much cheaper than it should except if you use the x1 button as in the old days is obviously a technical issue.

It started sometime yesterday, it seems, most likely with the patch.

I'm not sure if they would actually take players Ymens away (or if they even can do this on a global scale). If it's fixed soon enough, it shouldn't have a huge impact, and it's not the players' fault anyway. We've had bugs in the past that impacted some players negatively (the ToF one in particular) and there wasn't always a compensation once they fixed them. It wouldn't be a great message for them to send if there was a punishment after they fix this one.

9 minutes ago, Karyia said:

Just for reference... two new contests opened up, which now make... 4 active contests 

Yop. I reported this through a support ticket. Also, despite showing in the reward popup, I didn't receive any champion tickets for my win (also reported).

What I think happened is that the server is still generating new contests with the old format, on top of ones with the new format. So we had two new contests instead of just one. It could be a problem if it keeps piling up, but I expect them to fix this soon as well.

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