[ 25-Jun-20 ] Legendary Contests - Discussion

[pulli23]

14 minutes ago, LanceHardwood said:

Even if it was 10% I wouldn't feel like I've worked for anything, because neither I, nor you have. There's no skill involved in this event, nor is there in any other. But now instead of fighting against the odds, you're fighting against other players and the odds. It sure makes some players feel like they're putting in effort, while the most they're doing is spending a good amount of resources. Same as with PoA, with the difference that there you have the illusion that you're getting your 7200 kobans' worth while in reality you're getting things you'd never spend kobans on. And while all other events require a similar amount of 'effort', at least they don't waste additional time or resources doing so.

An actual skill-based event could be done by using mechanics similar to champions, but scaled to the player's current level instead. Ask yourself why aren't we getting something like that, but we get these consistent resource sinks ?

No I wake up early by creating an alarm and making sure I snipe at the very very last second. I'm trying to device a way to calculate latency and lag based on arena timings (you sometimes notice the timer goes to 0 but it jumps back up to 1-2 seconds). I most certainly see this as a skill, being able to consistently do well and plan correctly - without failure.

 

Skill isn't always in league of legends like fast reaction that those asians will always win over europeans because their physical supresse there. It's also in thinking and planning, games like tribal wars were quite skillfull back in the day.

Edited June 27, 2020 by pulli23

[Oda]

Mine is a mixed bag at the moment (25th is 137 at the moment)  luckily I have 75 shards so I hope it will be alright (there are 10 french players and 2 US ones with 0 points at the moment but I hope they aren't too crazy)

[MisterCat]

While I'm glad the above posters are having fun, I can't say I'm having much success or really enjoying the event.  I refuse to get up at 3am to try and play at reset.  For me it's been significant resources expended and finishing in the top half only once.  That means actually getting the girl is highly unlikely, and colors my opinion strongly against this event.   Yesterday's contest was particularly  unfun as I dropped from 18th to 26th over night. 

I prefer the other type of contest where you were meeting goals rather than competing against other players. 

From a game theory point of view having real time scores posted and having a known end time gives significant advantage to the players active at the end.  Another game I played dealt with contest like this by 1)  leader boards were only updated every 2 hours.   2)  For a given contest, your personal timer started by a button push, lasted 4-8 hours during which time you could do things that affected your score  3) published the results the next day.  

[Dr. Lust]

The ONLY thing I can think of that may level out the playing field and prevent that last second sniping by players would be to end the contest at a randomly chosen time before the 24 hours are up.  For example ending it anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours before the designated finish time.  This would cause players to do what I did in the first stage of the event, to play right from the start and not wait until the last second.  I played from the start, knowing that I would not be able to snipe at 3am, and ran my points up to 72,000+ in my bracket.  I went to bed in first place and, to my surprise, ended in first acquiring the girl.  So now, I'm just cruising for the next 4 days.

Can't think of another way to level out the field so that F2P and sharks and whales have the same chance.  As this contest is now it is heavily tilted in the favor of sharks and whales. The players like me, who are here just to relax and have fun have little to no chance.  If I understand correctly the last stage of the event ended sooner then expected.  Which would explain how I ended in first in my bracket.  Normally, there is NO WAY I would have ended in first with my relaxed style of playing.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Dr. Lust

[LanceHardwood]

11 minutes ago, Dr. Lust said:

The ONLY thing I can think of that may level out the playing field and prevent that last second sniping by players would be to end the contest at a randomly chosen time before the 24 hours are up.  For example ending it anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours before the designated finish time.  This would cause players to do what I did in the first stage of the event, to play right from the start and not wait until the last second.  I played from the start, knowing that I would not be able to snipe at 3am, and ran my points up to 72,000+ in my bracket.  I went to bed in first place and, to my surprise, ended in first acquiring the girl.  So now, I'm just cruising for the next 4 days.

Did you check if you were in an orb or shards legendary contest before you claimed the reward from day 1 ?

[EdMuse]

On 6/26/2020 at 5:55 AM, MaybeRegret said:

I feel a little bad for people who cannot be online or even sleep during reset time. 

Yeah.  No kidding. 🙁

On 6/26/2020 at 6:43 AM, Chthugha said:

new contest at daily reset.
you just have 23.5 hours for a legendary contest, and then there's 30 minutes for the servers to setup the next brackets.

I got my butt up at 6:30 this morning, a half-hour before reset time, to make sure I was still in first, only to find that I had been bumped to 12th (expected something like that, which is why I did it), and that the task had already closed a half hour early.  So pretty much screw this crap.

[Dr. Lust]

23 minutes ago, LanceHardwood said:

Did you check if you were in an orb or shards legendary contest before you claimed the reward from day 1 ?

I just remember waking up, seeing myself in 1st on the Legendary, and then immediately claiming the prize.  I did not start running the Pachinko stage until after I claimed the prize.

So, thank God the players in my bracket must have forgotten about that 30 minute reset time where the contest ends early.  Otherwise there is no way I would have acquired the girl.  I just hope we get back to the "normal" PoA events where we can plan ahead to get the girls as opposed to this fighting against each other crap.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Dr. Lust

[DvDivXXX]

5 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said:

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Dude! I just noticed we're in the same group today (thankfully not for the Contest I care about right now ^^). So, hi!

Also, can you actually believe that guy?! ^^

I mean, even if we were still competing for the Girl this would be ridiculously wasteful and overkill. But he's doing all this for a few orbs... Well, thanks for sponsoring the game, I guess. ^^ Keep going, man, nothing below 10k points will do.

Edited June 27, 2020 by DvDivXXX

[Urist]

I've learned something about the contest registration. One of my alt accounts is not enrolled in the 3rd legendary contest, probably because I haven't logged into the account since Tuesday, more than 72 hours prior to this morning's reset. I did have the 26th+ prize to claim from the first and second contest though. So that 72 hour mark is counted for each individual contest. Probably not relevant to forum users, but

[ali-n]

Haven't had time to scan all the comments to see if already mentioned, but the other contest today is a bit "off"

If I play Great one at a time for 10 games I would have 1,000 points after 10 plays (100x10), so the 1,200 for a 10X is good (an extra 200)... but if I do Epic one at a time, after 10 plays I would have 3,000 points (300x10)... so why would any sane person play 10X for only 1,800 (1.200 less) points?

[Slynia]

9 minutes ago, ali-n said:

so why would any sane person play 10X for only 1,800 (1.200 less) points?

Because of the guaranteed chance to get a girl (as long as there are girls in your Epic Pachinko pool). 👍

[DvDivXXX]

2 minutes ago, Slynia said:

12 minutes ago, ali-n said:

so why would any sane person play 10X for only 1,800 (1.200 less) points?

Because of the guaranteed chance to get a girl (as long as there are girls in your Epic Pachinko pool). 👍

There's that, and also... why would anyone spend thousands of kobans to win a contest that grants you 300 kobans? Oh wait. ^^

Also, there's this new thing called O-R-B-S. If someone appears to have "played EPx1" 10 times, they've likely used 10 orbs, not spent 5,400 kobans (and no, you can't combine them).

[Eman]

hace 14 minutos, ali-n dijo:

Haven't had time to scan all the comments to see if already mentioned, but the other contest today is a bit "off"

If I play Great one at a time for 10 games I would have 1,000 points after 10 plays (100x10), so the 1,200 for a 10X is good (an extra 200)... but if I do Epic one at a time, after 10 plays I would have 3,000 points (300x10)... so why would any sane person play 10X for only 1,800 (1.200 less) points?

As Slynia said, the x10 Epic Pachinko guarantees you a girl, so that's an extra you get for playing that. The single game, on the other hand, doesn't mean you'll get a girl even after 10, 15 or even 20 games, so it has an extra incentive in that contest.

The Great Pachinko doesn't adjust their scores because the extra prixe you can get is a legendary item, but you're already paying more for a x10 spin than playing a single one 10 times, so one thing for the other.

[JAVhero]

1 hour ago, DvDivXXX said:

Also, can you actually believe that guy?! ^^ 

SCORE: 6761

I mean, even if we were still competing for the Girl this would be ridiculously wasteful and overkill. But he's doing all this for a few orbs... Well, thanks for sponsoring the game, I guess. ^^ Keep going, man, nothing below 10k points will do.

Well, in my bracket. a japanese guy scored 8965 points so far and the second player has only 2220 points 😲

[Dr. Lust]

So, Guys, would this be a correct assumption for a F2P gamer.  During the month save anything and everything until the last event, be it a PoA or Legendary event?  Save, cash, kobans, orbs, champion tickets, books, gifts, boosts, etc.  Squirrel everything away so that you have a surplus of anything needed during PoA or Legendary?  And to get this thread back on track.............Filya is HOT.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Dr. Lust

[JAVhero]

imo it's not random that there's a "special offer" available at the very same time, you need that energy and combativity for the legendary contest  💰

Edited June 27, 2020 by JAVhero

[Lukas178]

39 minutes ago, JAVhero said:

Well, in my bracket. a japanese guy scored 8965 points so far and the second player has only 2220 points 😲

In my bracket one guy (american  )is currently at 8504 and the second one at 5609 points ( orbs competition)

Edited June 27, 2020 by Lukas178

[Karyia]

14 minutes ago, Dr. Lust said:

So, Guys, would this be a correct assumption for a F2P gamer.

I wouldn't say so.

If you want to get the most girls, Orgy Days is what you're looking for  

Also, given the competition factor, LC is a potentially high-cost "event" and as such, not the most adequate for a F2P gamer (IMO). 

I can confirm that Filya is indeed HOT.  

[~Crown Clown]

2 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

Dude! I just noticed we're in the same group today (thankfully not for the Contest I care about right now ^^). So, hi!

Also, can you actually believe that guy?! ^^

I mean, even if we were still competing for the Girl this would be ridiculously wasteful and overkill. But he's doing all this for a few orbs... Well, thanks for sponsoring the game, I guess. ^^ Keep going, man, nothing below 10k points will do.

Oh i bracketed with that guy on the first day, he got a top 10 finish on that day already lol(with probably only 1 league refill) 

Maybe he wanted revenge and feel superior this time xd

[Urist]

50 minutes ago, Dr. Lust said:

So, Guys, would this be a correct assumption for a F2P gamer.  During the month save anything and everything until the last event, be it a PoA or Legendary event?  Save, cash, kobans, orbs, champion tickets, books, gifts, boosts, etc.  Squirrel everything away so that you have a surplus of anything needed during PoA or Legendary?  And to get this thread back on track.............Filya is HOT.

New thread for that discussion:

 

[Lemus]

Objectively speaking, to get the girl I spent half the resources than in the same legendary days. Sounds like a good thing.

But subjectively, all I can say is that the new event pisses me off. Once again, the rage of my ancestors awakens in me. I want to take an axe and crush the heads of my enemies. "The ashes of Klaas are knocking at my heart." And all that stuff. And that's a bad sign. It's a very, very bad sign. 

There was a case that after a similar incident, we spent six months trampling the enemy guild into the mud seizing their cities and castles until they left the server shouting "Leave us alone crazy bastards."

https://coub.com/view/2fyr1c

And in another world and universe, red alliance starships appeared from the depths of space with a single order, "Just burn them all."

https://coub.com/view/a8ius

It's a good thing I can't do this here, but I'm still nervous because every time I kind of don't want anything bad, but for some reason this stuff happens over and over again. And I get advice from doctors on strictly positive emotions and no virtual killing, even if it's with good intentions.

Dear developers, if you make an event, make it good and positive. As your own hero says:

MOD EDIT: IMAGE REDACTED DUE TO STORY SCENE

(it's all a bit of a joke, of course, but, as they say, "every joke has a part not only of a joke").

Thank you. I love everybody. I had a sedative, so I'm fine now.

[Chthugha]

I'm just going to drop this here... (from Nutaku)

[snowman22]

L413 North American player. Hate the event.

LC Day 1: Woke up 3 hours before normal (T-60 min)  to see whats what. 1 1/2 refills for 25 shards, 3 refills for 50 shards, 15ish refills for 4th. I was already hating being up so early and I did not want to have to do this 4 times so I decided to go for 50. By the time I finished 3 refills I needed another. 4 refills took me to 7th, less than 1 refill above 11th. T-5 min and I was seeing motion in the 11-14 spots so I made another insurance refill. Turns out I would not have needed the last refill. Result: 930 kobans for 50 shards, big sleep deficit.

LC Day 2: I have lots of cash. Contemplated dumping 100M and waking up at T-30 min to do any topping off. Decided against doing the 100M because it would not save much time. Just as easy to do it at T-10 min. Slept through the reset. I would have lost the 100M. The 25 shard bracket started at 135M. Result: 0 spent for 0 shards, legendary item sold for 8.5M.

LC Day 3: I am going to try and wake up 3 1/2 hours early (T-90 min) and if 50 shards can be had for less than 10 refills I will do it.

I just want this to be over. There are parts of the game that are tedious but this contest is actively making my days unpleasant due to lack of sleep. I will try to get the girl on this one but this is the last time I participate in a LC unless they do something about the end time.

And just so this is not a total whine-fest I love the change KK made to remove the flying cash animation. Total thumbs up there KK!!

 

Edit: LC Day 3: Event done. Thank RNG. I had to dump 8 refills to get 7th and my last 50 shards. I probably overpaid by 1 but there where 3 of us sniping 10th. Half of the last refill did not register in time. All the others had french flags but in these days of VPNs you never know. KK got about 3K kobans from me this event but I am never doing another contest/event with this reset time-zone crap. To non-NA players: Have fun, I do not hold it against you.

And since I am up I will wait 30 min and then snipe in the casino contest.

Edited June 28, 2020 by snowman22
Update with day 3 results.

[Eman]

Looks like my group for this contest is either made of reasonable players or they're all waiting until the last hours to start the fight: there are only two players with more than 2.000 points and none of the others have reached the 1.000. Heck, I'm 14th doing nothing different than usual and less than 100 points away from the 10th place 😲.

If tomorrow morning things are mostly the same, I'll be seriously tempted to join the fun and spend a few kobans on refills to try to finish in the top 10 for the 50 shards. But that will depend on what happens while sleeping.

We'll see, but now the bed is calling me 😂.

[Тёмный Властелин]

6 hours ago, DvDivXXX said:

Also, can you actually believe that guy?! ^^

Ye, I've seen this Nakamura guy from Africa in the other screenshots in this topic. He is always spending a lot of his money (got from the gold mines, I guess) for the game. So, no point to even try for the first place. Top 4 will also be clumped up from America spenders, I think. So, a chill top 10\25 performance from the French guys, like you and me, I guess. 😀

1 hour ago, Lemus said:

Once again, the rage of my ancestors awakens in me. I want to take an axe and crush the heads of my enemies. "The ashes of Klaas are knocking at my heart." And all that stuff. And that's a bad sign. It's a very, very bad sign. 

https://coub.com/view/76itd

😀😀

Edited June 27, 2020 by Тёмный Властелин