Daniele Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 hours ago, ShadowHaamu said: "4 games" option gives a high chance for 1 event girl or 1 event avatar and 3 guarantees 3 legendary items. That line there is so misleading that it's totally bullcrap. While you get 3 legend items alright, it's the 1 event girl/avatar that's the problem. You. can. get. Dublicate avatars!!!!! And not only that, even if you get the avatar, it's not free. You have to spend 2M money to activate it. Sure, that might feel a little for some people, but it's the principle that matters here. Not only you get same avatar endlessly, you have to pay twice to actually activate it. When you also add completely randomized item stat system and that you can get same item multiple times......this new pachinko is seriously flawed. Are you really sure about this? Because i didn't get any duplicate avatar, when you get them they aren't shown as available anymore and i don't need to spend anything to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masters Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Part of my comment copied from the patch notes thread: Another complaint, which I've had for a while: the Silver HH-medallion animation when *something purple* drops. I always think, "Yes! A girl!" when it turns out to only be a legendary item. I RECOMMEND either limiting the Silver Medallion to girls-only—OR—changing the COLOR of the medallions to differentiate when a girl drops. Like either make it purple when a girl is not being dropped, OR GOLD when a girl is among the drops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSonicSly Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Daniele said: Are you really sure about this? Because i didn't get any duplicate avatar, when you get them they aren't shown as available anymore and i don't need to spend anything to use them. I don't know about duplicates but I got Lieutenant Kayle's Avatar and have to pay 2 mil. to use it. 🤔 On the other hand, I also have (and I don't how) Bernadette Barda's Avatar as well but this one I don't have to pay to use, it's Free. So yeah, I'm kinda lost on this one lol. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, TheSonicSly said: I don't know about duplicates but I got Lieutenant Kayle's Avatar and have to pay 2 mil. to use it. 🤔 On the other hand, I also have (and I don't how) Bernadette Barda's Avatar as well but this one I don't have to pay to use, it's Free. So yeah, I'm kinda lost on this one lol. 😅 Are you sure you got Lieutenant Kayle's Avatar and not Bernadette Barda's? Because Kayle's Avatar costs 2m for everyone (it's the only avatar you can buy with money instead of kobans). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 For those interested, I will include a pdf of my spreadsheet. I am planning on creating a bunch of test accounts on the test server every day a revival event is on this month. I will track everything I get. I'll update you people every ~100 event spins done. Event Pachinko.pdf 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer_X Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 My two cents. Simply put, epic pachinko is for whales. Unless anyone of you believes strongly in the power of luck, or you have at your disposal a huge reserve of kobans for each event, 1800 kobans spent in the event pachinko are 1800 wasted kobans. Point. If the devs in the future decides to alter the rules, this may change, but until then, someone would have to use brute force (or hack my account) to have me make a single spin in event pachinko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberbholt Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 It's normal for people to be upset. Imagine the average of turns to get a girl in 4 (which is within the average), the price would be 1800 kovans x 4 = 7200 kovans and now we do a simple commercial operation: 7200 kovans have a real cost in the market of 50 € (and mark a 20% discount on the price), now let's look at the price of a triple A game in France like the Kingdoms Hearts 3 on Amazon: 60 Euros. Do you really think that a handful of pixels, however beautiful or sexy the girl may be worth 10 Euros less than this complete game? I autorespond myself telling you flatly NO, it's fine that you want to earn money, but there comes a point where you must be realistic and see the market of the product that you market or you will face that your clients (players) after letting you know their opinions will be leaving your game in favor of others. And hiding the drop rates does not help you at all, even if you think otherwise, even the casinos have rules that safeguard the games of hazar and indicate the odds of prize in the arcade machines, and it is known that in the roulette according to the type of bet the odds can be calculated by seeing the win stipulated to the bet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Goodfellow Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Figured I'd try Event Pachinko once. Got 3 gifts and a piece of useless gear. What a waste of kobans. I will never use it again. It's great in theory for collecting event girls or even a piece of much needed gear - but the cost is too high for losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit126 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I gave this a couple of tries. Got two gifts and six pieces of useless equipment. No girl. No avatar. Waste of time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTanya Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Devs: It's random. Me: Gets six pants... Devs: But they are different.. Me: Six rainbow pants.. Devs: But it's random... Me: Six rainbow pants of the same skin and almost same stats. Devs: We told you it's random! Me: Random 6 identical pants.. RNG Jesus: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bane Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Did i spin on my Nutaku acc and got 4 aff items but did 5 test acc spins and my ratio was better. Test- girls got after 15 (max) spins over 5 accs, 5, 3, 3, 2, 5. so 18 out of 25 not bad going. If only thatwould happen on my actual acc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taka007 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 DId the event Pachinko spin 2 times. 1. 3 rainbow items + 1 mono stat item (wrong class) 2. Commander Cattleman + 2 mono stats (Charm+Knowledge) + Chocolate I want to mention: The event Pachinko does not count for the "Show of in the Casino" activity. That bothers me quite a bit since this was one of the reasons I did the spins and it got me 0 points in the activity. Why does Event Pachinko give nothing when it is still part of the Pachinko and some kind of discount epic Pachinko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntrine Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 19 hours ago, Makinen said: The mental image your post gave me: you can't handle my helmets! my helmets will rip space and time to find a way to all be equipped on your head 3 hours ago, SuperTanya said: Devs: It's random. Me: Gets six pants... Devs: But they are different.. Me: Six rainbow pants.. Devs: But it's random... Me: Six rainbow pants of the same skin and almost same stats. Devs: We told you it's random! Me: Random 6 identical pants.. RNG Jesus: the devs call it "new player friendly" now you have "choice" of pants to equip. so, soooo many choices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSonicSly Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Daniele said: Are you sure you got Lieutenant Kayle's Avatar and not Bernadette Barda's? Because Kayle's Avatar costs 2m for everyone (it's the only avatar you can buy with money instead of kobans). Now that You mention it, it might've been Bernadette Barda's, so thanks for clearing that up. 😅 I must've mistaken it for Lieutenant Kayle after feeling the tension rise after Spinning and not getting Alexandra (which I got on My 7th thankfully). 😁👍 I got Lieutenant Kayle on My 2nd Spin, so Bernadette Barda's the only I don't have yet (besides Her Avatar) and I would rather save My Kobans for now. I spent an awful lot already but it was worth it. Edited December 15, 2018 by TheSonicSly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro_the_Second Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I already had two green girls, so tried to reach the another three. I`m not interested with another kind of gifts. The result was 16 spins - all 3 girls: 5-th - Bernadette, 7-th - Kayle, 16-th - legendary girl Alexandra. So, in my case the chance to get a girl was just about 20%. Is this "a high chance for 1 event girl"? I don`t think so. I tried on public test server, may be someone tell about experience in Harem Heroes. There is no avatar pictures for award, so situation is possibly some different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algguy Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I tried three times; 12 items :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHarry Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 Well, I guess 20% is “high“ compared to tgd regular abominal droprates? StillI mostly miss the epic race. If now a girl drops from epic that I domt really like, I cant say to myself, ah, 1 down at least. A step closer to winning all the event girls in time. Now it just meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bane Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Might try 1 spin on last day as i really want, yes you guessed it, Alexandra. Got her on my Test Acc so if she dosen't drop then im ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Goodfellow Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 12:58 AM, Mr.Goodfellow said: Figured I'd try Event Pachinko once. Got 3 gifts and a piece of useless gear. What a waste of kobans. I will never use it again. It's great in theory for collecting event girls or even a piece of much needed gear - but the cost is too high for losses. Since I only did 1 spin on Nutaku, I figured I'd give Event Pachinko a couple more tries on Test Server where I have tons of kobans.... My initial thoughts are correct.... Event Pachinko is a total waste of kobans. I did 3 spins and got 3 pieces of gear (1 was actually useful as a monostat in my class), 2 avatars (which are useless in the game - does anyone REALLY want these??), and all the rest were gifts. So i just spent 5400 kobans on 1 piece of gear. I could have had a guaranteed girl drop and possibly more gear from one 10x spin of Epic Pachinko. Also, to note.... Event Pachinko is better on Nutaku as the Avatars are not options as drops. So it's just girls, gear, and gifts that drop there. But it's still a waste of kobans overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStud Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 So I tried the 1800 event pachinko and got Fae Marjora and when I looked in my harem she wasn't there. Everything else I got was there except her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSonicSly Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, DarkStud said: So I tried the 1800 event pachinko and got Fae Marjora and when I looked in my harem she wasn't there. Everything else I got was there except her Are You sure You didn't get Her Avatar instead? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHarry Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) So, tried another time, mostly because I couldnt do worse. This time 2 equipment, rainbow -> cash another flower and BB. The avatar of course. Well, now that I have it, I just as well use it. 🤣 Still sad epic pachinko is “gone”. Well, you can still play, but it will now be exactly 0.0% chance of the wvent girls instead of the usual 0.0000something% we had before. But now not even that... My opinion short term would have been better of it if Alexandra had dropped of course, but in the long run Id still be sad that playing hard to get the epic girls after finally finishing all the boss girls now has no more ultimate reward of getting a shortcut to the event girls. Even if that was like a year (or a lot of euros) away. Ah, last time I say it. Grumble... Edited December 17, 2018 by DHarry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Overload Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 In retrospect, this was pretty much inevitable. If we're going to continue to get epic days, those of us that still haven't spent any kobans on EP are going to clear it out in the course of 7 more epic days if we assume the patter still holds (two new girls show up and four permanent EP girls are on bosses. With that loss of revenue, they moved event girls into their own pachinko to continue the cash flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Moe Overload said: In retrospect, this was pretty much inevitable. If we're going to continue to get epic days, those of us that still haven't spent any kobans on EP are going to clear it out in the course of 7 more epic days if we assume the patter still holds (two new girls show up and four permanent EP girls are on bosses. With that loss of revenue, they moved event girls into their own pachinko to continue the cash flow. But you're only reducing the number of girls in EP by two per each Epic Days, not by four, if they continue doing the Epic Days every second month. There are two new girls released in the other months, too. (E.g. Akama and Arabella in October, in between Katharina/Octavia from the first ED and Adelaide/Greta from the second.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 So, I created 26 test account this revival event, and on all accounts I did event pachinko until I couldn't do it anymore, or when I got all girls. The pdf shows the results, for those who are interested. Know that the drop rate of girls has been revealed as 22.5% and my test shows higher number so far. I'll continue with the next revival. I'll create 26 new test accounts again. Event Pachinko.pdf 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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