Legendary Lupa Discussion

[DvDivXXX]

A lot of us are disappointed that they're breaking the pattern (and our expectations) by offering a HC girl for this Legendary Days event instead of the KH that was logically expected. But beyond that, just checking which Rare+ 5-star girls exist in the game, and how they're spread across the 3 classes should make it obvious that the class that needs a new one the most, for balance purposes, is clearly Know-How, followed by Charm, while Hardcore is clearly already the class with the widest and best pool overall:

Granted, HC is the only class that doesn't have an Epic in that group (yet), but it has two Rares to compensate (vs one for Charm' and... zero for KH). It also has three non-Champion Legendaries, just like Charm, while Know-How still only has two. Giving HC a fourth one before KH even gets its third like the other classes just doesn't make sense.

35 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said:

Now they have their classes as an even spread across the three 5 stars [Re: Champions]

Except that the Charm 5-star legendary is on Champion #6, the KH one is on #5, and is also possibly the toughest of them all given that he has super high stats and can have matching poses for his girl, whereas the HC one is on Champ #4, much quicker to reach and easier to beat than the other two... Which is yet another advantage the HC class has.

[sanjkame]

53 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said:

Oh yes, imagine KH with Agate as a five star legendary, as some have suggested.  Her original stats were impressive, plus she's rather lovely (IMO anyway).  I could imagine the artists would do a rather fantastic job on her, as they did with Bunny.

Yeah, Agate would be a very interesting choice since her stats from the "original girls" just lose to Samane, but samane already have a legendary version, despite being 3 stars. The problem is that Agate already appear at another legendary girl's scene(Taria) so it would create a king of lower hierarchy for her, and it wouldn't make sense her stats be the same as Taria for example. I don't think Red battle attractive  so I would prefer a new girl.

[GeorgeMTO]

1 hour ago, Zorba the Geek said:

As for the champions, I could've sworn there was no KH for the girls at 5 star, but this has been changed (I think).  I could've sworn Any was Charm originally.  Damn I wish I could've screen-shot it, then I'd have proof.  Now they have their classes as an even spread across the three 5 stars (and I assume their stats are the same).

This was never the case. Please stop making up your dumb bullshit

[Zorba the Geek]

15 minutes ago, GeorgeMTO said:

This was never the case. Please stop making up your dumb bullshit

You are one bastard!!  Get over yourself.  I distinctly remember Any as charm and I even posted something about it earlier and I checked carefully before posting, even seeing the red rose against her name.  As I said I wish I had screen shot it and this would've shut you up once and for all.

Listen dude, if you want to be a respected moderator please show some reciprocal respect for members, eh.

[DvDivXXX]

29 minutes ago, Zorba the Geek said:

I distinctly remember Any as charm and I even posted something about it earlier and I checked carefully before posting, even seeing the red rose against her name.

Wild guess here, but given your fuzzy memory (remember our discussion about your perceived win/lose ratio in pachinko?), and the fact that there's another Champion girl whose name also starts with an A (Albane) and who is Charm, I think you probably confused the two at some point. I've checked way back to the original patch notes, and discussions thereof, here and on the blog (the page from there can only accessed through web cache now, but I did check it), and Any was definitely Know-How from day one. I'll just give you one link to Observer's original post of his recap chart: there you go. See how he correctly noted Any as KH and Albane as Charm already? This was posted in early July, in the discussion thread about the patch notes that introduced the Sex Champions in late June. Sorry, but it's clear that you remember this incorrectly.

Besides this, you and George have both been a bit rude to one another, and that's a shame. Could you please chill, guys? Maybe read and react on my post on top of this page, instead of correcting each other...

[snowman22]

I can understand people being salty but as a KH player I can still say "At least I am not CH, those guys have it tough."

I am much more sanguine since the last anniversary event. That event really lowered the bar. An event with nothing for veteran players to do AND everybody gets Norou for free (unless you had worked to get her already then you got nothing) AND then they tried to fix it half way through.

Most advanced players already have 3 5 star legendaries of their class, a fourth one is not a huge advantage.

That was bad. This is merely disappointing.

[GeorgeMTO]

1 hour ago, Zorba the Geek said:

You are one bastard!!  Get over yourself.  I distinctly remember Any as charm and I even posted something about it earlier and I checked carefully before posting, even seeing the red rose against her name.  As I said I wish I had screen shot it and this would've shut you up once and for all.

Listen dude, if you want to be a respected moderator please show some reciprocal respect for members, eh.

Quit the moderator role last year, as you've been informed before. Your attention to detail is at your usual standard. How about you get over yourself?

Your post history on your profile only goes back to September so I can't see you posting about her being Charm previously, but I apologise for not correcting you then if you had made such a post. It's a disservice to yourself to let you have such incorrect facts in your head. Then again, based on the fact that you still think I'm a moderator, maybe you were corrected.

19 minutes ago, DvDivXXX said:

Besides this, you and George have both been a bit rude to one another, and that's a shame. Could you please chill, guys? Maybe read and react on my post on top of this page, instead of correcting each other...

I'll chill when he stops disrespecting the rest of the player base by making up dumb bullshit (ie when hell freezes over). Kinkoid fuck up enough on their own, we don't need them being blamed for imaginary mistakes.

[_shal_]

2 hours ago, Zorba the Geek said:

(although all the world reward girls - apart from Selena - are all 5 star now)

Source?

[֍Gr@ndPri€$ⴕ֎]

1 hour ago, DvDivXXX said:

A lot of us are disappointed that they're breaking the pattern (and our expectations) by offering a HC girl for this Legendary Days event instead of the KH that was logically expected. But beyond that, just checking which Rare+ 5-star girls exist in the game, and how they're spread across the 3 classes should make it obvious that the class that needs a new one the most, for balance purposes, is clearly Know-How, followed by Charm, while Hardcore is clearly already the class with the widest and best pool overall:

Granted, HC is the only class that doesn't have an Epic in that group (yet), but it has two Rares to compensate (vs one for Charm' and... zero for KH). It also has three non-Champion Legendaries, just like Charm, while Know-How still only has two. Giving HC a fourth one before KH even gets its third like the other classes just doesn't make sense.

Except that the Charm 5-star legendary is on Champion #6, the KH one is on #5, and is also possibly the toughest of them all given that he has super high stats and can have matching poses for his girl, whereas the HC one is on Champ #4, much quicker to reach and easier to beat than the other two... Which is yet another advantage the HC class has.

I absolutely agree with you @DvDivXXX. If they really want to hear better feedback from those players who already knew the game better, KK and his/her team should better read between the lines our concerns or at least have an effort and assurance to resolve this recurring issue the soonest possible time. Respect begets respect. Any word from you @_shal_ regarding this?

Edited September 20, 2019 by $exgod69

[_shal_]

4 minutes ago, $exgod69 said:

I absolutely agree with you @DvDivXXX. If they really want to hear better feedback from those players who already knew the game better, KK and his/her team should better read between the lines our concerns or at least have an effort and assurance to resolve this recurring issue the soonest possible time. Respect begets respect. Any word from you @_shal_?

I called Kinkoid's decision to have another 5* HC girl at this time "utterly idiotic" over on Discord earlier today. This may or may not pass your "respect" yardstick.

[Zamio]

The fact she is HC might have something to do with GH as well. I play both and on GH, there has been only one HC LD, which is Golden Bunny. there has been one for Charm as well, whereas there were already two LD for Knowhow. Having 3 and one of the other two classes would have more unbalanced on GH. whereas on HH, the effect is lessened because we already have at least 2 of each (you don't really need more than 2 legendaries IMO in a battle team).

Kinkoid has always had a pattern of keeping the classes on both GH and HH the same for LD. It's just that they missed out on a couple of the last ones due to troubles with the artist teams I think (there were no corresponding LDays when Sara Jay and Ombresse were released on HH) 

 

 

[[THH]Masturos]

I'm so happy i save 10k gold for the next legendairy , after spending 700 of it on silvanus i got her 100X in one spin  so i've spend annother 5400 on the epic pachinko to receive legendarie alpha and omega  pretty nice twin. Really a good day for my harem hahaha i hope it's going well for everyone !

[MaybeRegret]

So they made her know-how in the morning, but then turned back into hardcore. Heh... 

[sanjkame]

Just to record the 7 minutes that Silver Lupa spent as KH

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by sanjkame

[Zteev]

I don't like that overanimated look, but will still do the Silvanus fights, and see what happens. Unless I get close for free, no Kobans will be spent.

[Dmytro]

Silver Lupa (not counting her initial pose) reminds me of Sesshomaru (from Inuyasha):  Somewhat androgynous face with a mark on the forehead and stripes on the cheeks, long silver hair, white dress/robe with red decorations; transformation into a dog/wolf.  Sesshomaru is male, and these legendary days are also in GH (Gay Harem); but instead of using Sesshomaru, GH used a variation on Lobo (the GH counterpart of Lupa; Lobo does not look like Sesshomaru) that is not mystical-looking.

[Gett]

This pisses me off quite a lot, i do like lupa and i'm a kh player, so i was thinking "great, finally a legendary girl i will like to have in my team" and then i go to the info window and "WHAT THE FUCK". A serious disappointment.

[֍Gr@ndPri€$ⴕ֎]

I am not expecting that all of you will agree with me about this: If this will be the trend on somewhat favoring a particular class regarding a new legendary girl release every year based on the number of 5-star legendary girls that were already available since in the inception of the LD event, it is much better to just permanently remove such kind of event until such time that KK et. al. finally realized that there should be equal opportunity for a new legendary girl release  per class regardless of the queue order rather than it will cause this brouhaha and multiple disagreements and complaints we're having right now from happening over and over again. This is not good sign or a red flag on where the game is really going.  

[_shal_]

6 minutes ago, $exgod69 said:

I am not expecting that all of you will agree with me about this: If this will be the trend on somewhat favoring a particular class regarding a new legendary girl release every year based on the number of 5-star legendary girls that were already available since in the inception of the LD event, it is much better to just permanently remove such kind of event until such time that KK et. al. finally realized that there should be equal opportunity for a new legendary girl release  per class regardless of the queue order rather than it will cause this brouhaha and multiple disagreements and complaints we're having right now from happening over and over again. This is not good sign or a red flag on where the game is really going.  

So you're saying that...if something undesirable happened, it would be better if the undesirable thing didn't happen?

[֍Gr@ndPri€$ⴕ֎]

@_shal_Yes. And I won't deny I am extremely disappointed with this. As mentioned, I don't expect that everybody will agree me specially you. So please kept your calm and be respectful of other's point of view so that others will reciprocate their respect to you.

Edited September 20, 2019 by $exgod69

[PainPL]

Where the fuck is third 5 star know how girl. Its like know how are black marked by devs...... Long time awaiting for third 5 star know how and its 4-th hardcore..... Did donators told them to do   hardcore not know how WTF!! I am playing this game long time and its start to piss me off....

[Z-Wave]

Okay let me just slide in right here (pun intended 😏) before we get another outbreak over things that are not related to the thread's topic.

Speaking to the people of "The Porn Identity" Club:

@GeorgeMTO I know you easily get offended when somebody states factually false information (I guess you prefer the term "dumb bullshit"). And while I agree that Zorba must've misremembered Any's introduction (I consider the research of @DvDivXXX to be proof enough), your immediate reaction was everything but respectful. All Zorba did was stating his thoughts and opinions which were based on a lose memory, but so what? We all make mistakes! Please stick to our code that you agreed to: "We treat each other and people outside of our community with appreciation. Our communication is respectful and responsible. There is no blaming, trolling, insulting, harassing or poaching." I love your dedication to the game and your broad knowledge which is far beyond mine. I remember you correcting me here and there and you did it perfectly respectful. So please keep the attitude of helping us (the community) to stick to the facts whenever we're off, but without picking instant fights.

@$exgod69 I feel you, mate. I'm infamous for using far to many words in my statements (for proof just look at this very post 😉) and people will always make fun of me because of that. The trick is to own it and not to take yourself too seriously. I don't see any offense in shal's post, just irony. If his reply was towards me I'd probably just laughed at myself and said "that's so true", but yeah... You decide how to take it, but I suggest you use the power of self-referential humor. Makes life so much easier! Here's a clip from one of my favorite movies "Peaceful Warrior" that explains it better:

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Z-Wave

[Z-Wave]

As for the whole Lupa discussion: To me it looks like KK doesn't care at all, but that's alright. They created a fun Hentai game and at some point added more and more PvP without thinking it through. The girl distribution, the class specials, the boosters... Nothing really works in a balanced way and is easily exploitable. And yes, it's sad that KH stays at their 3rd 5-star girl while HC instead gets a 5th one, but don't forget that KH players have some other nice advantages over HC as well. If anybody deserved some love from KK right now, it's the CH players, they never got to be best at anything. 😅

[Cantrix]

Behold YET ANOTHET HC legendary,  is released. This shows the devs have absolutrly no bias for classes, just as the distribution of champion girls and undertuned ch spec which is left untouched since it was released even though it direly needs it. Good times to be HC, lets all screw KH and CH. And since KH players are doing so well in ToF, it's obvious that they don't need another 5* legendary. Heck they are doing fine with grey girls(after all how much power do they need when their only role is to be training dummies for the HC players). 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Cantrix

[Antimon]

7 ore fa, Zamio ha scritto:

The fact she is HC might have something to do with GH as well. I play both and on GH, there has been only one HC LD, which is Golden Bunny. there has been one for Charm as well, whereas there were already two LD for Knowhow. Having 3 and one of the other two classes would have more unbalanced on GH. whereas on HH, the effect is lessened because we already have at least 2 of each (you don't really need more than 2 legendaries IMO in a battle team).

Kinkoid has always had a pattern of keeping the classes on both GH and HH the same for LD. It's just that they missed out on a couple of the last ones due to troubles with the artist teams I think (there were no corresponding LDays when Sara Jay and Ombresse were released on HH) 

 

 

I play both GH and HH, too, and I think that this decision has little to do with GH legendaries situation. GH player base is way smaller than HH's, if you have to make a decision that satisfies one group and disappoints the other one, there is no commercial sense in choosing to make the smaller group happy and the larger one angry. GH is the side project that reflect what happens in HH, not vice versa. I'm quite convinced that Silver Lupa would have been hardcore regardless of GH

Also, I think that if their concern was actually gh's balance, the best solution could have been splitting for once the path of the two games, making Silver Lupa Know-How and Silver Lobo Hardcore, and making the fourth cycle of HH's legendaries start with a Charm legendary (or giving to gh the charm legendary only, since we don't know if it's their intention/possibility, from now on, to give gh the same amount of legendary days hh gets).

Edited September 20, 2019 by Antimon