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[Ravi-Sama]

24 minutes ago, sban said:

• Should I go full mono equipment of my class?
• Should I do a 100% dark team or some mix?
• Does it matter if the girl's class matches mine (HC)?

Yep, you've been paying attention.  You'll go far.

Regarding equipment, full mono is generally best.  There was a rare occurrence vs the 1600 wall for me, where 4 mono was twice as good, for w/e reason.  Check the win chance, but if your odds w/ 6 mono are already great, you can probably get by w/o experimenting w/ gear.

I don't think a 100% Dom team would make sense unless they all get blessed one week.  Like Liliat said, just use your strongest girls.  If you end up having a choice between strong girls of different elements.  Then, favor dominatrix, sensual, exhibitionist, and physical girls.  Anything that helps deal more damage, crit more, or survive an extra round.

Regarding class, that only matters w/ poses for Champion fights, and the Places of Power.  The total power of your girls is divided by 4, and then added to the base primary stat, and multiplied by all of the bonuses, to result in your final atk power.  Their class doesn't matter for the pantheon, villains, leagues, or seasons.  The higher the atk, the better, but don't sacrifice ego/def too much.  Harmony will be terrible regardless.

2 minutes ago, sban said:

So for long-term strategy, I probably should prioritize getting dark mythic (and L5?) girls to 750, right?

At least 3 girls.

[sban]

Thank you for the explanations. So with 4x mono I get 0.01% win chance which is already better than 0% 🙂
Two more questions:
1. Current mythic is pretty useless for Pantheon, right?
2. Good blessings would be the elements you mentioned, rarity mythic (perhaps also legendary) and anything matching my highest-level girls by chance, right?

[Ravi-Sama]

I wouldn't say any mythic is useless.  If one gets blessed 40%, then they'd have ~30k stats at lvl 750, and would be great to have on the team, like Radka this week, regardless of element.  If I had 6 other girls like her, I'd have a 209.9k team.

Any blessing that's 40% or higher is pretty great, as long as the top 7 blessed are L5 - M6 girls.  Your level cap matters.  It also depends on if you actually have those girls, at a high enough level, and if you have the resources to get them up to their max potential.

I made this table that shows the blessing possibilities, assuming teams of 7x L5s, or M6s.  Not a mix of the 2 rarities, just to keep it simpler.  I've been able to pass temples 1500-1799 w/ a 187.3k team.  Any blessing that results in a team stronger than that is great imo.  Some players feel comfortable w/ teams over 200k power.  A team of 7 girls w/ a max base sum of 41 or higher, is at least a ~200k team, at lvl 700.  7 girls w/ a max base sum of 39, is enough for a 200k team, at lvl 750. 

Check HH: Girl Data to monitor the blessings, and to see which girls to upgrade.

The strongest team possible in the game is 7x double blessed 96% mythic girls, at level 750, w/ a total power of 293,882.  That's possible if the blessings one week are mythic 40%, and blue eyes 40%.

(The % below is my affection shards for the girls, not blessings).

You'd need to have the 7x blue eyed mythic girls: Agate (100%), Housemaid (1%), Estelle (28%), Arcana (24%), Abraël (100%), Noemy (100%), & Lupa's Mom (2%).  I have 3 so far. 

Aries is also a great zodiac sign.  5 mythic girls are Aries: Agate (100%), Estelle (28%), Titania (39%), Lupa (33%), & Arcana (24%).

5 mythic girls have Pink Hair: Alexa (18%), Abraël (100%), Jezebel (20%), Bunna (100%), & Moe Bunny (4%).

There are 17 hair colors, so pink hair is less likely to be blessed (it never happened so far), but there's just 12 zodiac signs, and eye colors, making them more likely.

You can see a lot of those girls have "undesirable" elements, like eccentric, voyeur, submissive, and playful.  If they're actually fully blessed one week, you'll wish you had them.

Edited September 4, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[Liliat]

Il y a 2 heures, sban a dit :

2. Good blessings would be the elements you mentioned, rarity mythic (perhaps also legendary) and anything matching my highest-level girls by chance, right?

In short, good blessing is anything that allows you to field a team with a Total Power of 190~200k or more; preferably without affecting the Pantheon girls too much (They, too, can be blessed; although it's not a big issue until Floor 2000, because the Pantheon girls are usually pretty low level).

[madahmed]

@Ravi-Sama Thanx for your detailed explanations.

i was struggling on level 1000 against 7 mythic girls with 95k atacking power.

i always had 0.4% chance .the best one was 4%.

but today's blessing in nutaku 40% for girls with zodiac sign capricorn gave me a huge boost for two of my L5 girls Venus- Hazel).

this blessing raised my chances to 13.64%

i used a probability calcualtor as explained by @Ravi-Sama on one of his posts here

and it resulted that 75% of cahnces that the girl will drop at least once. i had only 10 tries and surprisignly on the 8th try, I got Scorpio.

I used 3 codys and my full team is level 600

Edited September 5, 2022 by madahmed

[Ravi-Sama]

8 hours ago, madahmed said:

@Ravi-Sama Thanx for your detailed explanations.
blessing in Nutaku 40% Capricorn... huge boost for,,, my L5 girls Venus & Hazel
raised my chances to 13.64%
...used a probability calculator as explained by @Ravi-Sama
resulted that 75% chance... that the girl will drop at least once
...10 tries and surprisingly on the 8th try, I got Scorpio.
I used 3 cordys and my full team is level 600

Awesome!  That's the purpose of this thread.  I got Love Note Jezebel today, but this made my day instead, lol.  You have 6 days left of those Capricorn 40% Nutaku blessings, so you can probably rise up to temple ~1070, w/ free worship regen, and the Sept 8th league reward.  There's also a Pantheon PoV that starts on Sept 16th, but I'd just do the fights now, w/ a strong team, if I were you.  Make sure to switch out teams based on elements, b/c it gets a little harder after temple 1000.

You didn't use a headband?!  You beat temple 1000, w/ a 125.9k team, and at lvl 392.  Impressive.

I had a 147k team, and was lvl 399 when I beat it (1/17/2022).  Had a 46.1% win chance.  Used 3 cords.  Had 5x lvl 600 girls & 2x lvl 550 girls.  We had Sagittarius 40%, & Blonde 40% blessings back then, on HH.com.  It took 1 attempt.

Your victory is more impressive, b/c you did it w/ a weaker team, player, and blessings.

Enjoy Scorpio.  There's not that many L5 & M6 eccentrics atm, (10 total, but I have 5 of them).  She's worth it.

[Chipsteria]

Stuck on 1500, hammering to no avail. all girls are 700, 5 mythic and 2 legendary. only 3 blessed, so might need to wait for a better blessing before I don the headband and try again. not sure what I should do for outfitting, still don't really know how to make best use of the stuff from the 10 game pachinko, on my character. Can anyone help me with that?

[bolitho76]

In most cases its best to use rainbow equipment. To decide if one is better than another have a look on the 3 stats you can buy in market. If the sum of the 3 stats is higher than the one ou have equiped and you don't loose points in your nain stat you can change the equipment. For battles in Pantheon mono-stat equipment of your own class is relevant. How many mono-stat you have to use to get best results is different so the best is: have one for every slot and the HH++ script and compare the chances.

[Ravi-Sama]

1 hour ago, Chipsteria said:

Stuck on 1500, hammering to no avail. all girls are 700, 5 mythic and 2 legendary. only 3 blessed, so might need to wait for a better blessing before I don the headband and try again. not sure what I should do for outfitting, still don't really know how to make best use of the stuff from the 10 game pachinko, on my character. Can anyone help me with that?

For the pantheon, pick 6 mono gear.  The 6 highest, of the main stat of your player, (charm, HC, or KH).

What's your level, team power, atk, etc?
Are you using the HH++ script to see your win chances? 
Which server. HH or Nu?  I think Nu has better blessings atm. 

I'm just curious. 

[Chipsteria]

15 hours ago, Ravi-Sama said:

For the pantheon, pick 6 mono gear.  The 6 highest, of the main stat of your player, (charm, HC, or KH).

What's your level, team power, atk, etc?
Are you using the HH++ script to see your win chances? 
Which server. HH or Nu?  I think Nu has better blessings atm. 

I'm just curious. 

 

I don't know how to copy the player card that shows up on the Pantheon battle screen. also dont know what the HH++ script is, or how to get it. 

I am on HH.com

I will type the stats as they are on the team I have at the moment.

My level: 450

Attack power: 105K

Ego: 607K

Defense: 36.6K

Harmony: 65.9K

Total power: 145538.4

Team comprised of the following girls:

Matcha; 700; 6M; partial blessed (Virgo)

Lotti; 700; 5L; partial blessed (Virgo)

Filya; 700; 5L; partial blessed Virgo)

Golden Lupa; 700; 6M; not blessed

Bright Agate;700; 6M; not blessed

Radka; 700; 6M; not blessed

Nike; 700; 6M; not blessed

Edited September 10, 2022 by Chipsteria

[Ravi-Sama]

2 hours ago, Chipsteria said:

I don't know how to copy the player card that shows up on the Pantheon battle screen.

How to take a sceenshot (link to a youtube video tutorial).  I personally use "Techsmith Snagit."

2 hours ago, Chipsteria said:

dont know what the HH++ script is, or how to get it.

Here's a link & a thread about the script.  It's very helpful.

https://github.com/45026831/hh-plus-plus

2 hours ago, Chipsteria said:

I am on HH.com

Cool.  Me too.  Our blessings aren't that great atm.  Not many girls have +40% Strawberry Blonde hair (I have 9 of them, and none are lvl'd up), and Virgo +20% isn't that helpful.  Waiting for better blessings makes sense. 

I have a 152k physical team atm, that I'm using on offense in Leagues.  At best, I'd have a 160k team at lvl 750 w/ these blessings (if I upgraded 5 girls).  I don't think that's good enough to beat temple 1500.

You can check weekly blessings potential w/ this online spreadsheet: HH: Girl Data.

2 hours ago, Chipsteria said:

My level: 450
Attack power: 105K
Ego: 607K
Defense: 36.6K
Harmony: 65.9K

Total power: 145538.4

Matcha; 700; 6M; partial blessed (Virgo)
Lotti; 700; 5L; partial blessed (Virgo)
Filya; 700; 5L; partial blessed Virgo)
Golden Lupa; 700; 6M; not blessed
Bright Agate;700; 6M; not blessed
Radka; 700; 6M; not blessed
Nike; 700; 6M; not blessed

Your team isn't bad, but back in May, when I had a 146k team at temple 1500, I had a 0% win chance.

It took me a 184.4k team to see a 0.04% win chance (w/o a headband).

Then, had a 7.92% chance, w/ that 184.4k team & a headband.

Full mono gear, and 3 cords of course.  It took 2 tries.

I'd wait for better blessings, and beat the floors after 1500 near an event that needs a lot of CP, like an LD, MD, or MDR.  Each floor after 1500 from 15X1-15X9 drops 3 CP, 270 CP total between 1500-1600, and so on.

You can view my 4 month old temple 1500 post below, to see my blessings, gear, boosters, team, level, passives, stats, & elements, etc.

On 5/30/2022 at 5:11 PM, Ravi-Sama said:

PANTHEON WALL 1500 DESTROYED

I saved up 17 temple energy, in anticipation of this blessed week of +35% legendary and +30% Nove Dive.  Made a Playful team of 6x lvl 700 L5s, & 1x lvl 550 L5.  4 of them were 76% double blessed, and 3 were just 35% blessed.

• Beatrix (lvl 700) (76% Blessed) (30.7k stats)
• Hazel (lvl 700) (76% Blessed) (30.7k stats)
• Tano (lvl 700) (76% Blessed) (30.1k stats)
• Ryoko (lvl 550) (76% Blessed) (24.1k stats)
• Demi (lvl 700) (35% Blessed) (23.4k stats)
• Sai Borg 777 (lvl 700) (35% Blessed) (22.9k stats)
• Fanny & Fione (lvl 700) (35% Blessed) (22.4k stats)

184.4k total power!!!!

Win chance % was 0% (impossible) before these blessings, then it was 0.04% w/o a booster, and it changed to 7.92% after getting a mythic headband booster (450 kobans).  I used 6 mono gear, and 3 cordyceps boosters.

These were my passives:

I won on my 2nd try, after getting at least 2 critical hits that did over 200k dmg each.  A regular atk did about 100k dmg.  I recruited Capricorn, and then got to floor 1515 w/ my remaining temple energy.  That got me to rank 178 on the leaderboard.

The fights afterwards are easy.  You'll need Sensual, Eccentric, Exhibitionist, Physical and Voyeur teams for the next 25 fights.  Each fight after floor 1500 rewards 3 combativity, and 1x GPx10 for every 10th fight.  Now I have 73 combativity saved up.

🤔

I was planning on using my 73 combativity, to fight Finalmecia and Pandora, to get some more Sensual and Playful gems for awakening Lavender (lvl 450) and Ryoko (lvl 550) once more, ... but now I'll go into "storage mode" too. 😏

I have 12k kobans and 5 SP boosters saved up, for the incredible mythic girl on June 3rd.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[Chipsteria]

4 hours ago, Ravi-Sama said:

How to take a sceenshot (link to a youtube video tutorial).  I personally use "Techsmith Snagit."

Here's a link & a thread about the script.  It's very helpful.

https://github.com/45026831/hh-plus-plus

Cool.  Me too.  Our blessings aren't that great atm.  Not many girls have +40% Strawberry Blonde hair (I have 9 of them, and none are lvl'd up), and Virgo +20% isn't that helpful.  Waiting for better ones makes sense.

Your team isn't bad, but back in May, when I had a 146k team at temple 1500, I had a 0% win chance.

It took me a 184.4k team to see a 0.04% win chance (w/o a headband).

Then, had a 7.92% chance, w/ that 184.4k team & a headband.

Full mono gear, and 3 cords of course.  It took 2 tries.

I'd wait for better blessings, and beat the floors after 1500 near an event that needs a lot of CP, like and LD, MD, or MDR.  Each floor after 1500 from XXX1-XXX9 drops 3 CP, 270 CP total between 1500-1600, and so on.

You can view my old 1500 post below, to see the blessings, gear, boosters, team, level, passives, stats, elements, etc. that I had.

I downloaded the HH++ and the Tampermonkey and installed same. don't know how to use it, or will that show up on the Battle screen? Never mind, I see it now, most excellent. thank you so much.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Chipsteria

[Ravi-Sama]

Just now, Chipsteria said:

I downloaded the HH++ and the Tampermonkey and installed same. don't know how to use it, or will that show up on the Battle screen?

Underneath a pantheon boss or any opponent, you should see a % for your win chances.

Might have to enable the script within tampermonkey.  It should be on the top right of your browser.

[bolitho76]

That was the chance at lvl1700 and with the first try...

I could break the wall!

I fear my drop luck in the MDR... so much luck here must be compensated somewhere else...

My team was:

Stellaluna, Titania and Radka at lvl750, Ellie at lvl749, Matcha at lvl726, Melsiandra at lvl701 and Jezebel at lvl700.

I had used 6 mono-stat equipment, 3 Cordys and a headband.

Edited September 23, 2022 by bolitho76

[Ravi-Sama]

On 9/23/2022 at 3:01 PM, bolitho76 said:

Stellaluna, Titania and Radka at lvl750, Ellie at lvl749, Matcha at lvl726, Melsiandra at lvl701 and Jezebel at lvl700.

🔵 Stellaluna (lvl 750 & 35% blessed) = 25,312.5
🔴 Ellie (lvl 749 & 20% Blessed) = 22,470
🟢 Titania (lvl 750) = 21,420
🔴 Radka (lvl 750) = 21,420
⚪ Melisandre (lvl 701 & 20% Blessed) = 21,030
🟢 Jezebel (lvl 700 & 20% Blessed) = 21,000
⚫ Matcha (lvl 726) = 20,734.56

153,387.06 Total Power

I assume 3 cords too.  Did you use a headband?

Edited September 25, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[bolitho76]

Added the informations about Booster in the other post too. Headband was used.

[FinderKeeper]

Just breached the 1800 wall with a 0.13% chance. Took just 6 (six) attempts. 

[Ravi-Sama]

38 minutes ago, FinderKeeper said:

Just breached the 1800 wall with a 0.13% chance. Took just 6 (six) attempts. 

Congratz!  I see you ranked 42nd at temple 1810 now.

Team power/elements?
6 mono gear?
Boosters?  3 cords + AME?
Passives?  Maxed?

I'm stuck at that wall too.  I know the max team power this week on HH.com is 193k, but I'm missing 4 of the blessed mythics, so I couldn't attempt anything.

Edited September 26, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[FinderKeeper]

26 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said:

Team power/elements?
6 mono gear?
Boosters?  3 cords + AME?
Passives?  Maxed?

177k, looking at it now I can see I could've swapped one lelement, so non ideal combo on my part

5 mono, 3 cordys with headband, full passives, 6 mythics maxed, one mythic almost maxed

[Ravi-Sama]

2 minutes ago, FinderKeeper said:

177k, looking at it now I can see I could've swapped one lelement, so non ideal combo on my part

5 mono, 3 cordys with headband, full passives, 6 mythics maxed, one mythic almost maxed

Cool, that's not even the max potential for this week.  That gives me hope (for another week).

Edited September 26, 2022 by Ravi-Sama

[DvDivXXX]

Congrats, Finder. And Ravi's right, I've seen opponents getting close to 190k with the textbook (spreadsheet) strongest line-up of the week.

I'm still stuck at 1900 myself and still don't have Matcha, so I'll keep stockpiling for a better opportunity.

[Ravi-Sama]

Blessing News

I noticed next week's blessings on HH.com aren't particularly the best we've ever had for the pantheon (190.1k max), but they are noteworthy, b/c every L5 is blessed 20%, and 6 of them at 50%.  That helps everyone, and makes any elemental team strong.  It's possible to make a 168.2k team of all Doms ⚫, or a 157.5k team of all sensual 🔵 girls.  PvP is gonna be fun.

[Liliat]

il y a 18 minutes, Ravi-Sama a dit :

(190.1k max), but they are noteworthy, b/c every L5 is blessed 20%, and 6 of them at 50%

One is Maelyn, that pretty much nobody has (She was only available for 1-2 days on the CC). So, more like 5 blessed 50% and 184k max TP.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Liliat

[Ravi-Sama]

1 hour ago, Liliat said:

One is Maelyn, that pretty much nobody has (She was only available for 1-2 days on the CC). So, more like 5 blessed 50% and 184k max TP.

Yeah, I saw that.  I knew the name was familiar.  I looked her up, and smh.  Those lucky bastards that got her when she was available less than a day, get to benefit for a week I suppose.  The rest of us can get her next month.

If you think of the max at 184k instead, it's still noteworthy, b/c you can make a strong team of any elements.  Should be easy to get through the higher floors, for example, if you just passed 1800, like FinderKeeper. 

Could do experiments in leagues w/ 7x exhibitionists 🟢 plus 3 chlorella (a dumb Idea I had).  I assume the best strategy vs strong opponents is to use your strongest girls, w/ as many Doms ⚫ as possible.  Plus, 7x Sensuals 🔵 vs weaker opponents, to get 25 scores.

[DvDivXXX]

Makes sense for high normal floors and for mid to high walls.

Still nowhere near the kind of boost I'll need to break my 1900 wall, though. I'm honestly kind of waiting for them to release the Hero's Journey thing with additional skill trees for your hero; I don't think I'll break through with just good Blessings and a lot of persistence. And even if I did, as Ken has some time ago if I recall, no one has beaten the final boss yet. So I strongly suspect this wasn't designed to be beatable with the power level we currently have available.