casey Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Well I guess I'm safe for the moment I have reached the "Peaceful Warriors Dojo's" minimum level requirement of 315 Boogerstick welcome, we're currently competing in the same league this season To all other club members: Benbrazke, Master horndog, Syncma, Krycke, who look to be moving up to the next league level good luck Things are working out exactly as I planned for this season I'm currently in 20th and will be sitting out fights not to squeeze into the top 15 I didn't use any boosters except for some time left on ones I had used during the previous season (sorry Boogerstick I used my temporary increased stats to beat you up a little) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Il y a 1 heure, BoogerStick a dit : Oh wow, I guess I haven't looked in the forum for a few weeks - I missed a lot, including a slot in Peaceful Warriors. [...] I tried for an Australian club (since that's where I am) but got rejected It's a pity... Yesterday, I started a transition club, the entry and exite are free. It's mean that you can come and when you found your favorite club you go. So when the club upgrade will start with extension member, you go to Peaceful Warriors (or Aussie club)no problem. If you are interested I'll put the ID. Good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, casey said: Well I guess I'm safe for the moment I have reached the "Peaceful Warriors Dojo's" minimum level requirement of 315 Boogerstick welcome, we're currently competing in the same league this season To all other club members: Benbrazke, Master horndog, Syncma, Krycke, who look to be moving up to the next league level good luck Things are working out exactly as I planned for this season I'm currently in 20th and will be sitting out fights not to squeeze into the top 15 I didn't use any boosters except for some time left on ones I had used during the previous season (sorry Boogerstick I used my temporary increased stats to beat you up a little) There won't be any next league level this week, there are only 2 S3 brackets at the moment, so no need to stay out of the top 15. Actually it will be the same next week too, because there will be only 4 S3 brackets, still not enough to create a Dicktator 1 league. Edited December 5, 2018 by Daniele 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 @BoogerStick cool to see you around here! You and I are competing in the same league bracket right now and oh boy there's no way to win in PvP against you. You have great stats and a very good setup. Also I see you're not in a club yet (as of now). If you are interested, we can probably make it happen for you to join. There's one inactive member that doesn't seem to develop his stats and therefore causes me some worries. I try to get in contact with him but it's likely that I'll kick him soon anyway. Just let me know if you want to be part of this club, because I'd welcome a legend like you any time (be aware that we are #2 behind the French Club non officiel though). If you found another club in the meantime or are not interested, no hard feelings. I hope you stay active in this thread and provide us with further tips like the page frames, it's quicker than what I considered the best strategy before! 👍 @Chthugha @jelom @casey @Habi Your feedback is very appreciated! We are all about becoming a great community of good people and I'm doing my best to be a worthy leader. For now, my means are limited and therefore I chose a high level restriction instead of being a "restricted" club. I can see that we find a better way that fits our philosophy and Code of Honor better when club creators have more ways to set up their clubs. Also I totally agree: the level count is not the only important factor to consider (probably not even the most important). I hope to be able to have a community that includes the finest and strongest people in both personality and playstyle. We'll see how successful we are in the end, and I'm very proud of what we've achieved so far. @Daniele @Habi Thank you for keeping us up to date with the league bracket predictions. It's very valuable information and I hope Kinkoid will include this in a future update so you don't have to put your efforts towards researching. I'm glad that there's likely no D1 league next week, because it will be hard to score top 15 in my current bracket with people like @BoogerStick, @Habi and @syncma (and multiple others that I'm not capable of mentioning anymore). Have a great time everybody. And thank you for keeping this thread so vivid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habi Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 well thank you for mentioning it but league prediction credits go to @_shal_ to 100%. i just talk to him and pass the information further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 @BoogerStick we are 19 atm. If you want to be part of the Peaceful Warriors, just join (no application needed :-)). I'm looking forward to having a great community around here. Thank you all for being active! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Okay I think it is common knowledge by now, but at the moment there is a bug that allows you to get league tokens much quicker than before. If you run the game in multiple parallel sessions (e.g. in different Browsers or on different devices like PC and Smartphone), you'll get 1 token per 35m in every session. So if you just keep the game running in 2 different browsers, your token refill speed will effectively double. Unfortunately that doesn't apply to energy, combativity or arena fights and you also won't be able to use more tokens than 3 per opponent in your league bracket. It's still a nice hack if you're in a large bracket that otherwise would cost you Kobans in order to fight everyone. If we're lucky, it won't be fixed before the next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Ninonator said: Okay I think it is common knowledge by now, but at the moment there is a bug that allows you to get league tokens much quicker than before No, i didn't know it and i'm not going to use it. And neither should you, because... well guys, it's cheating. Devs need to fix this ASAP! Jeez, this game has so many problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, Daniele said: No, i didn't know it and i'm not going to use it. And neither should you, because... well guys, it's cheating. It's debatable whether using exploits like this is cheating, but I sure get your point. This way or another, we will face bugs all the time and everyone has to decide for themselves what to do about them. I'm interested though: What are you guys doing in such a situation? Do you tell the devs? Do you keep it for yourself? Are you using it to your advantage? I'm looking forward to your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Ninonator said: It's debatable whether using exploits like this is cheating, but I sure get your point. This way or another, we will face bugs all the time and everyone has to decide for themselves what to do about them. I'm interested though: What are you guys doing in such a situation? Do you tell the devs? Do you keep it for yourself? Are you using it to your advantage? I'm looking forward to your feedback! If you are caught keeping it to yourself, your account will be banned. It's as simple as that. The real question is if you want to take that risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Chthugha said: If you are caught keeping it to yourself, your account will be banned. Why do you think they'd do that? That sounds like a rather shortsighted strategy and I hope Kinkoid doesn't think the same. I checked the ToU and didn't find anything pointing in this direction. For entrepreneurs like Kinkoid it's in their best interest to animate their users to look after bugs and report them (maybe even reward them for going the extra mile and taking action with the intend to help). If Kinkoid would actually threaten users to ban them if they don't report bugs they found in Kinkoid's very own code, they end up with a clientele that is either incapable of or not interested in supporting them. As mentioned: There's nothing in the ToU that indicates this and all companies I've seen so far rather reward the people disclosing a bug or security breach (because they know that those people are only a minority among a much larger group of people who knew about the bug, but didn't take action). This way, they encourage people to help them. I'm looking forward to your reply. Is there a good reason to try to force people to actively disclose bugs? Because if there is, I don't see it yet (because I don't think it would work any other way than with encouragement and reward). Edited December 12, 2018 by Ninonator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Ninonator said: Why do you think they'd do that? That sounds like a rather shortsighted strategy and I hope Kinkoid doesn't think the same. I checked the ToU and didn't find anything pointing in this direction. For entrepreneurs like Kinkoid it's in their best interest to animate their users to look after bugs and report them (maybe even reward them for going the extra mile and taking action with the intend to help). If Kinkoid would actually threaten users to ban them if they don't report bugs they found in Kinkoid's very own code, they end up with a clientele that is either incapable of or not interested in supporting them. As mentioned: There's nothing in the ToU that indicates this and all companies I've seen so far rather reward the people disclosing a bug or security breach (because they know that those people are only a minority among a much larger group of people who knew about the bug, but didn't take action). This way, they encourage people to help them. There's never going to be threats to begin with. If you exploit a bug, you don't report it, and they find out you do that, then they will simply assess how much advantage you gained because of it, and without threats or anything, your account will be banned. They want you to report these things, but if you don't, then you have to face the consequences of your actions. You gained an unfair advantage, and that's something they cannot accept. These kind of things don't have to written down. It's common decency to report such a thing and not to keep it to yourself and take advantage of it. If it was in the ToU, then you would have them threaten you, which is what you didn't want to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Out of curiosity, since when this bug is known? If this game were mine, at the very least, all players caught taking advantage of this exploit should be demoted in Wanker 1 and every reward they gained in leagues should be removed. But probably i would just ban them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 @Chthugha I totally agree with you: Reporting a bug is common decency, but many people don't (for whatever reason). Take this bug for example. I'm pretty sure hundreds, if not thousands of people are using it consciously (and probably many, many more wonder why they get more token refills lately, even if they don't know why). And yet... there isn't any bug report (neither on Discord, nor in the forums) about this until now. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't find any though... My approach towards this thread is to share high end strategies and hacks/exploits with everyone so we can improve on our gameplay. I guess most of the active community around here put hundreds of hours into the game and paid a good amount of money so far. I hope posting hacks like e.g. refresh, top-level-window browsing, the tab-enter shortcut for income collection (that doesn't work anymore unfortunately) and now the multiple-session strategy will help those high level players to have a better experience and faster gameplay. And of course I hope those people therefore share their hacks and strategies to allow me getting an advantage and saving time. I guess none of these hacks are wanted by Kinkoid (because it might indirectly cause people to buy less Kobans and spend less time in the game). But with all of them collected in one place (here :-)), it's easier for them to decide whether they want to tolerate a hack or do something about it. One could also make the assumption that people who are interested in hacks are more invested (figuratively) in the game and want to get the best experience. If using a hack makes the gameplay better for them, they might stick around for longer and eventually give more money to Kinkoid. Maybe there are statistics on Kinkoid's servers to verify or falsify this thesis. Btw. when I talk about "hacks", I mean either bug exploits or smart usage of the tech and systems in place (like refreshing a website). I'm not talking about unsanctiond scripts, macros, autoclickers, account sharing or anything else that clearly is forbidden by the ToU (and by common sense :-)). If any of the game developers is reading this: Please let me know if you got a problem with this approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ninonator said: Reporting a bug is common decency, but many people don't (for whatever reason). Take this bug for example. I'm pretty sure hundreds, if not thousands of people are using it consciously (and probably many, many more wonder why they get more token refills lately, even if they don't know why). And yet... there isn't any bug report (neither on Discord, nor in the forums) about this until now. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't find any though... I think you're vastly overestimating the cross-section of players who are a) committed enough to fully use their league tokens, and b) play regularly on two simultaneous sessions for the same account. I'm certainly in the first group, but I've only ever used a second session to check/test stuff on my throwaway alt accounts without having to log out of my actual playing account. Consequently I had no idea of this exploit until you mentioned it, and I'm generally ahead of the curve when it comes to gameplay issues that crop up. For most two-sessions players it's more likely to mean one on HH.com and one on Nutaku. Anyway, since this is an exploit that both directly affects a paid feature (additional league tokens) and directly affects the in-game competition (because it involves a H2H gameplay aspect), I feel it's hardly in the same category as stuff like reloading the battle screen that only adds convenience, even if it might still be unwanted behaviour by Kinkoid. This is a massive game-breaking bug here. Edited December 12, 2018 by _shal_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I don't have the habit to open one game in multiple devices at the same time, so how would I even find out a bug like this. Like shal said, I think you are grossly overestimating the amount of people who are willing to go out of their way to gain an advantage. I also think you are highly overestimating the amount of players using either the forum or the discord servers. Those numbers add up to maybe a few percent. Anyway, the way you bring it up is what bothers me the most... "okay I think it's common knowledge now" even though you just admit you haven't seen any post about it anywhere before. That should make your alarm bells go off and instead make you aware that it might actually not be known at all. The last assumption is a way more likely one than the one you made (Occam's razor...). So next you should instead immediately post it in bug reports, instead of posing it as a good trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 This only matters if your league has more players than the number of combat credits you can earn during the season also it doesn't matter how many combat credits you have if you can't beat the strongest teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Chthugha said: The last assumption is a way more likely one than the one you made (Occam's razor...). Occam's razor are they any good, always on the look out for a good razor ( i shave my head) right now I use a Pitbull Gold which is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Yeah maybe I'm overestimating the numbers of players who discovered the bug. It's all selective perception: I wondered about this strange token behavior at day 1, realized how it works on day 2 and discussed it with about 10 people who figured it out independently themselves on Discord via pm. This way I got to the conclusion that many players must know about this. Plus playing in 2 sessions is a nice trick to save some time with arena pvp or villain fights, so I also assumed many people are doing it. And finally: After doing the bug report yesterday I got confirmation that indeed there have been private reports before and Kinkoid does know about this for a while, so I apologize to all the people who reported it in case you feel attacked by my bold claim that nobody is mentioning the bug. Selective perception can be a bitch sometimes... 🙂 I can understand how people might be upset about how I circumvent mechanics to gain an advantage. It's what I do in life all the time: Figure out how to play by the rules in ways that are better/easier/beneficial no matter what people think about it. As long as it's legal and not physically harming someone, I'm basically okay with everything. Here are some examples: - In school and university the first thing I figured out is how to get good grades without a lot of work. One teacher was asking for homeworks only from silent students, so I participated a lot in the class and never made my homeworks (still got an A). At my university nobody checked whether I attended the classes, so I just went to the first class (to get on the list) and to the last class (to get the content of the final exam) and used the free time to learn all the techniques on how to efficiently prepare for exams. Again I got straight A's. - I negotiated a home office agreement with my employer and made sure that I got paid by results and not by time. Now I get paid the same amount as my colleagues, but I'm working about 8h per week instead of 40. Everyone knows about this and my employer is okay with it (as long as the results are good). - I'm living in 3 countries and I stay less than 182 days per year in one residence. Combined with some other laws I managed to not pay income taxes at all (instead I voluntarily give 40% to charities of my choice where I think my money is much better handled than by any government). It's totally legal, but for sure not intended by the people making tax laws. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing about this is "fair", but everyone can do this without causing harm. Prepare for a lot of critic though, because it's a very unpopular approach towards life. If you are interested in this kind of mindset and what you can do, I strongly recommend reading "The 4 Hour Workweek" by Tim Ferriss which was a huge inspiration for me. To sum it up: It's not my intention to harm anybody or play against the rules. Just when there are opportunities within the rules, I'll be the first one to take advantage of them and tell you about it here. This thread is supposed to be about tricks/hacks/exploits/strategies or basically about how to play this game in ways that are most beneficial to you without breaking the ToU. 10 hours ago, casey said: Occam's razor are they any good, always on the look out for a good razor You're sarcastic, aren't you? 😉 Because Occam's razor is the idea that the simplest solution tends to be the correct (or best) one. Also I can't imagine shaving my head since I've got such a square skull 😥 Edited December 13, 2018 by Ninonator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Ninonator said: Yeah maybe I'm overestimating the numbers of players who discovered the bug. It's all selective perception: I wondered about this strange token behavior at day 1, realized how it works on day 2 and discussed it with about 10 people who figured it out independently themselves on Discord via pm. This way I got to the conclusion that many players must know about this. Plus playing in 2 sessions is a nice trick to save some time with arena pvp or villain fights, so I also assumed many people are doing it. And finally: After doing the bug report yesterday I got confirmation that indeed there have been private reports before and Kinkoid does know about this for a while, so I apologize to all the people who reported it in case you feel attacked by my bold claim that nobody is mentioning the bug. Selective perception can be a bitch sometimes... 🙂 I can understand how people might be upset about how I circumvent mechanics to gain an advantage. It's what I do in life all the time: Figure out how to play by the rules in ways that are better/easier/beneficial no matter what people think about it. As long as it's legal and not physically harming someone, I'm basically okay with everything. Here are some examples: - In school and university the first thing I figured out is how to get good grades without a lot of work. One teacher was asking for homeworks only from silent students, so I participated a lot in the class and never made my homeworks (still got an A). At my university nobody checked whether I attended the classes, so I just went to the first class (to get on the list) and to the last class (to get the content of the final exam) and used the free time to learn all the techniques on how to efficiently prepare for exams. Again I got straight A's. - I negotiated a home office agreement with my employer and made sure that I got paid by results and not by time. Now I get paid the same amount as my colleagues, but I'm working about 8h per week instead of 40. Everyone knows about this and my employer is okay with it (as long as the results are good). - I'm living in 3 countries and I stay less than 182 days per year in one residence. Combined with some other laws I managed to not pay income taxes at all (instead I voluntarily give 40% to charities of my choice where I think my money is much better handled than by any government). It's totally legal, but for sure not intended by the people making tax laws. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing about this is "fair", but everyone can do this without causing harm. Prepare for a lot of critic though, because it's a very unpopular approach towards life. If you are interested in this kind of mindset and what you can do, I strongly recommend reading "The 4 Hour Workweek" by Tim Ferriss which was a huge inspiration for me. To sum it up: It's not my intention to harm anybody or play against the rules. Just when there are opportunities within the rules, I'll be the first one to take advantage of them and tell you about it here. This thread is supposed to be about tricks/hacks/exploits/strategies or basically about how to play this game in ways that are most beneficial to you without breaking the ToU. You're sarcastic, aren't you? 😉 Because Occam's razor is the idea that the simplest solution tends to be the correct (or best) one. Also I can't imagine shaving my head since I've got such a square skull 😥 yes, I attempt to be a sort of a wise-guy poster (mostly failing) as for the shaving head part, when i realized I'm going to go bald I went by the axiom "if you can't grow it cut it" As for the "bug" it is a semi circumvention of the rules as the only persons you are actually causing injury to are the game-runners/ developers by eliminating the need to buy Kobans as I wrote in a previous post it doesn't matter how many fighting credits you have if you are only allowed finite number of fights in a league season and you cannot beat the strongest teams The bottom line is given X number of fights in a league season you will end up with the same amount of points whether you have extra fighting credits or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 By the way Ninonator I formerly had a work position of being a tax auditor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wave Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, casey said: the only persons you are actually causing injury to are the game-runners/ developers by eliminating the need to buy Kobans I forgot to mention that I never use Kobans for tokens, so no harm done 😉 5 hours ago, casey said: By the way Ninonator I formerly had a work position of being a tax auditor OMG EVERYBODY RUN!!! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, Ninonator said: I forgot to mention that I never use Kobans for tokens, so no harm done 😉 OMG EVERYBODY RUN!!! 😂 I had a budgie bird that looked just like the one pictured above when I was 5 also I do not audit anymore or work for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natstar Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I made myself weaker and got 1st place this time and I am the one that ninja'ed 4th place from Bananajoy last time but I made myself weak to early that time. If you could post it in your club chat for your other members in that league group so that they would know as well because I am not sure if they check the forums.@casey@BoogerStick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 57 minutes ago, natstar said: I made myself weaker and got 1st place this time and I am the one that ninja'ed 4th place from Bananajoy last time but I made myself weak to early that time. If you could post it in your club chat for your other members in that league group so that they would know as well because I am not sure if they check the forums.@casey@BoogerStick Thanks for the info and your help but I fought you long ago ( the stitches should be coming out any day now) You mentioned "ninja'ed", i think I'm going to be doing that to Alex who is also a member of the Peaceful Warriors Unless Boogerstick gets a move on he is going to need to spend some serious Kobans if he wants to finish in the top 4 I've haven't had any contact with him but he may be sitting out this season because last time I checked he was below the promotion range @ 19th place Just to let you know your not doing me any favors by weakening yourself, if any of the players ahead of me have fighting credits that they can use against you you are making my task more difficult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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